Make Murray vs Khan NOW!!!!!!!!!

[Tuffnutz]

:deal

[john b]

Yeah ****** probably won't make as he see that murray isn't a blown up SFW like all khan over fights he geniune lightweight and will cause khan problems all nght. I will definately go to that fight at the MEN North west derby.

[rumour24tiger]

Congrats to Murray. He just showed how good he is.

That was the kind of performance that gets ppl talking about Khan v Murray. And talking. And talking. You let these fights simmer, until they are worth more money. (IMO)

Khan will get the Cook-Arthur winner & whoever Frank W and matchmaker Dean Powell bring in to develop Khan.

Murray has the pick of the Thaxton-Melero EBU winner, Fewkes, Gethin...Sky and Hennessy should build him into a star, turn him into a commodity.

Stopping Meager like that puts him up there in Europe. Khan has ignored Europe.

Will Ring mag call Murray the most protected lightweight in the world in next year's State of the Game?

[elle]

Khan's opponent for September hasn't been named yet but would be extremely surprised if it was Murray. Perhaps if he'd lost tonight or won in poor style....

Anyway, credit to Murray for a great performance. Been hard work fighting his corner on here at times - really pleased for him after all the harsh criticism that has come his way.

[KCD]

Come on Murray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:happy

Khan NEEDS to fight the top British guys before he talks about world titles, as Murray said in the post fight interview.

Since Khan turned pro he has slagged off three British fighters that i know of:-
1. Graham Earl
2. John Thaxton
3. John Murray

Yes he demolished Earl, but he has spat his dummy out over Thaxton and in an interview i read he said he doesnt need to fight Murray as when they sparred he toyed with him:roll:

Murray replied that he has never even been in a ring with Khan and it was infact his brother who sparred Khan. Murray then said he would fight Khan anytime, as he said tonight.

Khan needs to pull his head out of his arse, there are two intriguing fights in Thaxton and Murray before he even contemplates fighting for a world title.

[Tuffnutz]

I knew Murrays recent performances were down to him not being able to get up for the fight's.

I've never forgotten how good he's looked at times in the past.

Murray is a proper TV fighter!

No nonsense, poker faced, all business, tough and puts some nice shots together when he's on form.

He's an old school fighter. A hard worker and he's got the style and power to Hurt Khan imo. :good

[D-MAC]

Well, it would be nice that rather than deciding he's the best LW in Britain, he actually proves it. it's as laughable as Mayweather Jr's claim that he'd easily beat Cotto and Mosley. Well, why not prove it?

Not as laughable as Khan saying that he wants to be the new Floyd Mayweather from Britain.:nut

[faisal]

i'v been very critical of murray in the past and i'll give him credit for taking care of business 2nite he has a decent shot at wrecking the khan bandwagon

[Maza1987]

Murray brought his sparring form into a fight and I think the result shows that he can get up for big fights. Sod Khan, he does not want the British title, bring on Fewkes, after THaxton of course. What a fight Murray-Fewkes would be, two guys standing in range blocking and landing shots.

Credit to Lee. Was in a good ringside position and those shots were thudding in. The man went out on his shield.

All fewkes will be landing is powder.
As in powder puff.:yep

[Dunky McCafferty]

Jeez, the way you guys are talking you would think that Meager wasnt shot to shit, which of course he was.

I dont rate Murray, but predicted on ESB that he would beat Meager in the mid rounds, & thats exactly what happened.

Dont believe the hype. Thats my message to the Murray bandwagon jumpers.

Anyway, can anyone tell me what Meager had done to deserve a british title shot again? After all Thaxton won every round against Meager last time he challenged for the title.

Joke fight if you ask me.

[Tuffnutz]

Jeez, the way you guys are talking you would think that Meager wasnt shot to shit, which of course he was.

I dont rate Murray, but predicted on ESB that he would beat Meager in the mid rounds, & thats exactly what happened.

Dont believe the hype. Thats my message to the Murray bandwagon jumpers.

Anyway, can anyone tell me what Meager had done to deserve a british title shot again? After all Thaxton won every round against Meager last time he challenged for the title.

Joke fight if you ask me.

Until you stop hypeing up Alex Arthur, keep it shut! :D

[Shev]

Murray vs Khan, sounds like a good fight, will prove who's the real deal between the two of them.

[robpalmer135]

Rob will be here any minute now to tell you that Khan doesn't need to fight anyone, because he's already said he could beat them all.

Really, a wonderfully time efficient way of saving money on staging a fight and time talking about it. Well done, Amir.

Khan needs to fight Murray, and if he doesnt it needs to be against a genuine decent top test, like David or Julio Diaz.

[nicofly]

I think Amirs next oppenent in September should be John Murray, Amirs proved himself against good British fighters but I think from last nights performance Murray could be a very tough opponent for Amir.

He has a very good defense, comes forward all the time and can definetly bang. I felt some of the shots Meager took and not taking anything away from the lad who put up a valiant effort but he got absolutley battered.

If an old Gomez stepping up a weight can put Amir on his arse then I think Murray definetley can.

[TehRileh]

As good as murray was, i think khan will still do him.

[kurt2006]

A confident Khan would beat Murray easily.

[elle]

Khans flaws were further exposed during his last fight - by a super featherweight who was past his prime and lost his last attempt at British Title level.

No disrespect to Gomez but if he can knock Khan down and hurt him to the body a genuine lightweight like Murray who is younger, fresher and does possess some power has a decent chance in my opinion.

[warrior85]

khan&****** wont fight murray,they'll fight a no name,no punch euro bum next,on the form of last night murray stops khan in 8 or 9,murray v thaxton now theres a fight that should be made,the british no 1&no 2

[brown bomber]

Personally I think that Khan would beat Murray quite handily. Murray looked exceptional last night and I like his attitude- plus the fact he hasn't had the low key SN 45-0 build up makes me like him even more. Murray needs to be on his opponents toes to beat them and Khan is too fast. He may even get him out of there early but Murrays far to dangerous and FW won't have the balls for it.

[elle]

Although Khan is fast and its his main asset (he overwhelms his opponents with speed rather than power) it didn't prevent Gomez, who is much older, slower and was stepping up in weight, from scoring a knockdown and hurting him to the body.

Was interesting after their bout when Gomez spoke of Khans vulnerabilities and Murray's chances - how Murray was a big lightweight and puncher and if he hits him he might go....

Only one way to find out but I doubt this fight will get made anytime soon if at all.

[BIG WORM]

Easy fight for khan. If gomez can put khan down then err i think tony blair can IMHO

[dwilson]

Khan needs 3 or 4 more fights before he is ready for an opponent of Murray's quality.

[warrior85]

Khan needs 3 or 4 more fights before he is ready for an opponent of Murray's quality.



true but knowing ******&khan those 4 fights will be against feather fisted nobodys so he still wont be ready.

[Max Molyneux]

Think Murray's too flat footed to beat Khan and lacks any movement to get out the way of the quicker Khan's shots.

Murray has only just stepped It up while Khan won the commonwealth In 2 years as a pro while Murray's been pro for 5 years.

[Beeston Brawler]

Personally, I don't feel ****** is doing Khan any favours by ducking the leading domestic contenders - because by fighting them he would be exposed to different styles of opponent. Up to press he has had upright, boxer types rather than brawlers (Murray) awkward bastards (Thaxton) and punchers (Romanov - ok not British) - when the inevitable step up does come he will be exposed in brutal fashion, the defence isnt good enough and he cant FIGHT for toffee. He is a good boxer, but sometimes that just isn't enough.

I have given Murray plenty of stick on here but I was impressed not just with his performance, but his fitness as well. If he can drag Khan into a war I would fancy him to win handily, if he can't I see Khan winning a wide UD or late stoppage after grinding John down.

[Beeston Brawler]

Think Murray's too flat footed to beat Khan and lacks any movement to get out the way of the quicker Khan's shots.

Murray has only just stepped It up while Khan won the commonwealth In 2 years as a pro while Murray's been pro for 5 years.

Fair point - but to me the Commonwealth title is close to becoming meaningless. This is because pretty much any numpty can be found from God knows where to challenge for a title - and the tiresome bandwagon can continue. It did with Mitchell, until he fought Johanneson.

At least with the British title you are guaranteed to be getting decent defences under your belt, especially at lightweight, a division which is strong currently.

[rumour24tiger]

Personally I think that Khan would beat Murray quite handily. Murray looked exceptional last night and I like his attitude- plus the fact he hasn't had the low key SN 45-0 build up makes me like him even more. Murray needs to be on his opponents toes to beat them and Khan is too fast. He may even get him out of there early but Murrays far to dangerous and FW won't have the balls for it.Well, if he can cut the ring down on Fewkes and the Spaniard Melero, then he'll have a good chance vs Khan. Hopefully Murray defends vs Fewkes next year and challenges Melero (who will beat Thaxton for sure) for the EBU belt.

Murray's not been given a good fight since last Nov (until last night). His development has been arrested. He's going to get better & better with British title defences. So many good fights for him now, and he doesn't have to go looking for good comp now.

Murray could do with practise against movers, because he's flat footed. Would like to see him in 12 rounders vs fleet footed opponents. It won't be easy, but he can do it, and it will prepare him for Khan.

With 12 rds I'm confident he can break Fewkes down in what would be a great fight. if he does this, it will prepare him for further tests.

Personally, I think just as Murray needs rounds vs good movers, Khan needs to up his game vs infighters. They should fight each other in a few years, when they're about 25/26 yo at their peaks.

[robpalmer135]

I think to be honest everything Murray does well, Khan does better, and everything Khan does poorley, Murray does worse.

Khan within 6 rounds.

[rumour24tiger]

That's close to nonsense. Khan doesn't fight inside, for one. Get Murray the right fights, and he'll beat Khan down in a hard, drawn out fight.

[TFFP]

Murray could beat Khan if he fought like that.

[Beeston Brawler]

Khan cannot fight inside, and doesn't have a good chin.

Murray can fight inside and has a decent chin - good enough to walk Amir down IMO.

He is flat footed - which is why I wouldn't back him against either Khan or Fewkes, but both would be entertaining encounters.

[TFFP]

Nah, chances are these guys will have 2 or 3 losses in a few years time, by which point the fight will have lost some of its shine.

[elle]

Murray has only just stepped It up while Khan won the commonwealth In 2 years as a pro while Murray's been pro for 5 years.


In terms of Titles and development its an interesting comparison.

Think Khan won the Commonwealth a year ago now in only his 13th fight which was a great achievement.

Progress during the last year -

Khan has made voluntary defences of the Commonwealth (I believe he should have really been stripped of that Title or forced to face his mandatory Thaxton) and picked up an Intercontinental Title against Kristjansen.

Murray won the English Title against an opponent who usually campaigns at light welter and has just captured the British Title Khan chose not to pursue.

[achillesthegreat]

Undefeated young British champion. I say make the fight.

Murray looked better last night but not sensational or anything. I still didn't see anything that suggests he'll get the best of Khan. Certainly not in talent or tools. Maybe he has the intangiables i.e. chin, heart, stamina etc but I'm doubtful on that too.

[TFFP]

Murray has everything to beat Khan based on last night

Firstly, and most importantly, he showed a dramatic increase in performance in his biggest fight. He obviously needs to feel threatened to perform, which explains his mediocre performances recently

Stylistically, last night he fought like a pressure fighter rather than a brawler. The guard was tight, and he came forward with educated pressure, throwing accurate shots and lots of them. This is exactly what Khan struggled with against Gomez, who is older, slower, smaller and generally battle worn

What is Khan going to do when Murray gets close, and takes his shots? Can he take Murray's shots? There are so many questions this fight throws up that is impossible to make a firm prediction.

[ThePlugInBabies]

Think Murray's too flat footed to beat Khan and lacks any movement to get out the way of the quicker Khan's shots.

Murray has only just stepped It up while Khan won the commonwealth In 2 years as a pro while Murray's been pro for 5 years.

[max molyneux's actual reasoning] amir is a sports network fighter so i must fellate him at every opportunity [/max molyneux's actual reasoning]

[stakeout]

Khan needs to pull his head out of his arse, there are two intriguing fights in Thaxton and Murray before he even contemplates fighting for a world title.

Spot on mate. :good

[faisal]

khans lack of punch resistance isnt going to get him too far in the game, the least he can do before retiring is school some one like john murray and make him regret calling him out.

[elle]

i'v been very critical of murray in the past and i'll give him credit for taking care of business 2nite he has a decent shot at wrecking the khan bandwagon


khans lack of punch resistance isnt going to get him too far in the game, the least he can do before retiring is school some one like john murray and make him regret calling him out.


:huh

[rumour24tiger]

I think the Board of Control will choose Murray's 1st title defence. Can't wait to see it. Hope it's in September when the season is back on.

Murray's trainer told me they'd rather go into a Khan fight, than fight a guy like Fewkes, who brings the same problems for less reward.

John is obviously much happier with his career now, and says he wants the biggest and best fights, nothing but main events, and no more undercards.

Posters on here will be pleased to know that they're dead set on Khan, and are confident of taking him down.

[Beeston Brawler]

Im not sure what the future holds for Murray.

Most of the better lightweights at domestic level are under the Hennesy banner - will fatty want to put two of them in an eliminator and another challenging for the title?

Amir Khan seems intent on convincing everyone that he is the best 135lb'er in the country yet has been blatantly ducking Jon Thaxton for a year now - so he will be in no rush to fight Murray, who stylewise is probably his worst nightmare.

[somerset]

Hope they don't choose Gethin!

[elle]

Hope they don't choose Gethin!


Think Martin Gethin is due to face John Fewkes for the vacant English Lightweight Title early October.

[Beeston Brawler]

Gethin would get hammered - he isn't ready IMO.

[john b]

Its the fight british fightfans want to see, but whether ****** and khan oblige thats another thing entirely. It wouldn't suprise me to see khan against rees.

[Beeston Brawler]

Khan will either be up against another SN fighter or an import :deal

[icemax]

Murray could beat Khan if he fought like that.

He could but he tends to blow hot and cold...his next performance could be a real stinker

[faisal]

i'd like to see how murray does against some one as elusive as limmond if he breaks him like he did to meager then hes destined for special things

[faisal]

:huh i think at world level khan will be found out atleast if he beats a domestic fighters like murray he'd have some praise from the haters (such as yourself)

[Maza1987]

a hater is always a hater.

hi haters.
lol

[Dunky McCafferty]

Can anyone give me any info on the 'song' Murray enters the ring to? It would be much appreciated:D

[kerrminator]

I think Amirs next oppenent in September should be John Murray, Amirs proved himself against good British fighters but I think from last nights performance Murray could be a very tough opponent for Amir.

He has a very good defense, comes forward all the time and can definetly bang. I felt some of the shots Meager took and not taking anything away from the lad who put up a valiant effort but he got absolutley battered.

If an old Gomez stepping up a weight can put Amir on his arse then I think Murray definetley can.

Who are the good british fighters he's proved himself against. no disrespect to his opponents but for all the hype that surrounds him he has fought at a very low level so far. His best opponent by far was St Clair but lets face it, he never really fought back as he was obviously only there for the payday.

[elle]

i think at world level khan will be found out atleast if he beats a domestic fighters like murray he'd have some praise from the haters (such as yourself)


Really don't see why expressing justified criticism of a fighter in a reasonable manner warrants being labelled a hater. I'm also prepared to give Khan credit where it is due.

Have to say I do find it odd considering it was you and NOT me that voted they wanted to see Khan get KTFO badly recently!

[rumour24tiger]

Who do ppl think the Board will throw up as Murray's 1st challenger?

I know Gethin was put forward to fight Fewkes for the English belt. But Gethin just won that hard fight with Siddique. Gethin would be in over his head, vs Murray.

Limond (beat Martin Watson)? Lawton (beat Al Hamidi)?

Khan, really, should be looking to fight Murray. There's no way he can win a world title yet (Campbell-Guzman/Funeka, Pac-Soto, Casamayor-Soto), he wouldn't fight Romanov for the Euro title. Doesn't look good if he's targeting super feathers like Arthur.

[Beeston Brawler]

Could he make 130, because Arthur won't vacate to fight Khan methinks

[rumour24tiger]

Could he make 130, because Arthur won't vacate to fight Khan methinksI don't think Khan can make 130. I think he's destined for 140 soon-ish.

He looks like a real weight drainer, going down from small punches; looking massive and powerful early; fading, having flat periods after a fast start.

Maybe Arthur, if he's beaten Cook, will move up and fight Khan for a payday. To make Khan look good, and to get a payday, even if it's at lightweight. Khan won't be able to win the title, but he can say he's beaten a "world champion." The advertising will stress Arthur as WBO champ, and a lot of ppl will probably think they're watching a world title fight.

Khan has to mark time, IMO, and will probably to to trick the public he's in world class fights! Does Khan have some kind of W_ _ Interwhatsit belt, maybe that will do as well.

[Beeston Brawler]

Yeah he chose to fight for the interalphabetty title instead of fighting Thaxton for a real title.

Imagine if he doesn't win a world title - he won't have made any imprint on the sport whatsoever - because the Commonwealth title is now meaningless as well.

[Beeston Brawler]

Don't think so - I would be very surprised if any SN fighter boxes for a non-WBO title in the near future.

If this happened, the winner would be near certain to have to face a decent mando pretty quickly, and get sparked.

[pne buz]

Could he make 130, because Arthur won't vacate to fight Khan methinks

He will if the money is right!

[faisal]

Really don't see why expressing justified criticism of a fighter in a reasonable manner warrants being labelled a hater. I'm also prepared to give Khan credit where it is due.

Have to say I do find it odd considering it was you and NOT me that voted they wanted to see Khan get KTFO badly recently!
some of your criticism in the past hasnt been justified its actually been rather arrogant like mocking khans previous opponents knowing little if any thing
about them, and dont kid yourself theres been plenty of times were khan showed promise but yet u still wish to dwell on the negatives.
the only person who i badly wanna see get KTFO is you elle

[Beeston Brawler]

Now now.......

Khan has showed plenty of promise yes - but shamelessly ducking your leading contenders at domestic level whilst bleating on about being ready for a title shot is bound to make you look daft.

Getting decked and receiving a gift off the referee against Willie Limond, and hitting the deck from a cuffing punch from Gomez doesn't help. God knows what would have happened had it been a flush shot thrown from a solid base.

[Claypole]

the only person who i badly wanna see get KTFO is you elleI'm sure you can be a bit friendlier than that.

[elle]

some of your criticism in the past hasnt been justified its actually been rather arrogant like mocking khans previous opponents knowing little if any thing
about them, and dont kid yourself theres been plenty of times were khan showed promise but yet u still wish to dwell on the negatives.


No disrespect but perhaps you should take a look at some of your own posts in Khan threads before you start judging mine for so called arrogance -

i wonder where all those wankers are who where bilittling khans next replacement opponent in the other threads (fuckin cocks)

i guess all you john murray kevin mitchell cock suckers would have loved to see your men in with some one with this aussies credentials, when khan tears this guy a new hole next month u all better STFU


the only person who i badly wanna see get KTFO is you elle

No need to get personal. There is no point me trying to debate or discuss my reasons (contrary to what you suggest I do have valid ones) for being critical of Khan if you can't be civil.

Whats more, for someone who has openly admitted you are pro Khan I'm astonished you voted you wanted to see him get KTFO badly against Gomez. That to me seems a little hypocritical.

Just for the record I've never wished that on any boxer, including Khan.

[Benjiabc]

Come on Murray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:happy

Khan NEEDS to fight the top British guys before he talks about world titles, as Murray said in the post fight interview.

Since Khan turned pro he has slagged off three British fighters that i know of:-
1. Graham Earl
2. John Thaxton
3. John Murray

Yes he demolished Earl, but he has spat his dummy out over Thaxton and in an interview i read he said he doesnt need to fight Murray as when they sparred he toyed with him:roll:

Murray replied that he has never even been in a ring with Khan and it was infact his brother who sparred Khan. Murray then said he would fight Khan anytime, as he said tonight.

Khan needs to pull his head out of his arse, there are two intriguing fights in Thaxton and Murray before he even contemplates fighting for a world title.


exactly

[brown bomber]

Can anyone give me any info on the 'song' Murray enters the ring to? It would be much appreciated:DI'll try find out!

[faisal]

No disrespect but perhaps you should take a look at some of your own posts in Khan threads before you start judging mine for so called arrogance -








No need to get personal. There is no point me trying to debate or discuss my reasons (contrary to what you suggest I do have valid ones) for being critical of Khan if you can't be civil.

Whats more, for someone who has openly admitted you are pro Khan I'm astonished you voted you wanted to see him get KTFO badly against Gomez. That to me seems a little hypocritical.

Just for the record I've never wished that on any boxer, including Khan.
dont be foolish elle most of that stuff was said months back iv frequently expressed my doubts about khan, u seem to have a selective memory and u also seem to have alot of time on your hands may be you can take another trip down esb memory lane and dig some more stuff out those comments were all in wake of the heavy banter khan was reciving for fighting the ''dannish pastry'' who u enjoyed making fun of remember that? when the dane pulled out and st claire was annoused as the next opponent i just expressed my disgust at how people were spinning the whole issue about khan not fighting quality opponents. Admittedly the comments could have been less provokative but who cares.
but the real issue here is that your a hardcore khan hater most of the posts are either related to what khan said or did outside the ring or his flaws inside the ring.You dont provide a fair analysis as your position is skewed due to your love for another lightweight

[faisal]

Now now.......

Khan has showed plenty of promise yes - but shamelessly ducking your leading contenders at domestic level whilst bleating on about being ready for a title shot is bound to make you look daft.

Getting decked and receiving a gift off the referee against Willie Limond, and hitting the deck from a cuffing punch from Gomez doesn't help. God knows what would have happened had it been a flush shot thrown from a solid base.
i'll save u for later :smooch

[Dunky McCafferty]

It is a customise version of 'Johnny B. Goode' with the lyrics changed and re-done by Murray's mate.

aah thankyou very much MrD:good The reason I was asking is cos I was honestly wondering if it was Murray singing the song himself!

cheers again for the info

[elle]

dont be foolish elle

Foolish? Its not me sitting behind my keyboard badly hoping to see a fellow poster get KTFO!

most of that stuff was said months back iv frequently expressed my doubts about khan, u seem to have a selective memory

The Gomez fight wasn't months back. If anyone has a selective memory it appears to be you as you seem to have conveniently glossed over the fact it was you and not me that wanted Khan to get KTFO in his last fight.

and u also seem to have alot of time on your hands

Didn't take long to do a quick search and quote a couple of your posts to illustrate my point.

may be you can take another trip down esb memory lane and dig some more stuff out

Perhaps you should take your own trip - that way you may be less likely to contradict yourself where Khan is concerned.

those comments were all in wake of the heavy banter khan was reciving for fighting the ''dannish pastry'' who u enjoyed making fun of remember that?

Think you referred to him being a pastry as well - when you were telling another poster how they should STFU.

Point is even if I indulge in some banter on the board I do try to give valid reasons for being critical. With Kristjansen I was particularly disappointed when he was announced as Khan's opponent first time around as, if my memory serves me right, this came on the back of Khan calling out and discrediting Thaxton.

Wasn't convinced Khan v Kristjansen was worthy of being a WBO eliminator and also wasn't particularly impressed by Kristjansen's record at the time - one fight in last 16 months, last fight 6 round split decision win, prior to that drew with ageing Stefano Zoff, 3 draws on record (?), approx 17 out of 23 fights six rounders, only one TKO in last 13 fights, etc.

Thought you said yourself it was a joke fight, why this guy, they could have made Thaxton fight the eliminator for the WBO....

After the actual fight I did comment that Kristjansen performed better than I expected on the night.

when the dane pulled out and st claire was annoused as the next opponent i just expressed my disgust at how people were spinning the whole issue about khan not fighting quality opponents.

When St Clair was announced I think my main criticism was the advantage Khan would have in weight and height. I did say, however, that St Clair was a better opponent than Kristjansen and that what I liked about the match up was that we would probably see Khan get more rounds under his belt as St Clair seemed quite durable, etc.

Admittedly the comments could have been less provokative but who cares.

I think its a shame if you don't care. I feel some of your more provocative comments don't reflect that well on you and it hardly encourages good debate.

but the real issue here is that your a hardcore khan hater most of the posts are either related to what khan said or did outside the ring or his flaws inside the ring.

With all due respect its you that seems to have an issue. You are the one getting all defensive about Khan and going on the attack. You are quick to judge others and label them but fact is it wasn't me that wanted to see Khan get KTFO badly against Gomez. That was YOU.

You dont provide a fair analysis as your position is skewed due to your love for another lightweight

If you don't feel I provide fair analysis there is a simple solution if you feel that strongly - challenge it and argue your case if/when those instances arise. Thats what the forum is all about.

Contrary to what you think, how I rate other Lightweights does not cloud my judgement where Khan is concerned. To be honest I feel its you that seems incapable at times of being objective about some of our other young prospects and shows in some of your more dismissive posts.

[Beeston Brawler]

:deal

[Claypole]

:deal :yep

[Beeston Brawler]

If you contradict yourself over and over and seem to pick fights (for want of a better phrase) you are bound to cop some stick :rofl

Seems like our Faisal is a bit like the town hall clock