Possible to do bodybuilding/ boxing/ martial arts?

[Primenal]

I've been lifting weights for about 5 years now, and pretty built. I've boxed for a couple (mainly working the bag), and about a year ago started to go to boxing gyms. I've been doing martial arts (Jeen kune do) for about 6 months.
Now, my main goal is more of bodybuilding. Boxing, and martial arts are just something I love to do, I love the confidence it brings to know I can handle myself no matter who they are, and enjoy fighting. My current plan is first to get in to fitness modeling by at least next summer, and 2-3 years down the road I'm gonna start competing on stage for bodybuilding. As for normal jobs...Physichal therapy, massage therapy, personal training is all stuff I have in mind.

I've been having a ton of trouble doing all 3 though. First I was overtraining like hell, and gaining no weight. 6 days a week, sometimes I'd workout 2-3 times a day, and anywhere from 3 hours-5 hours in a days time. I said piss on that though, and cut it back to 5 days, and at the very most I workout twice in one day anywhere from 2-3 hours. I'm making much bigger gains now, and feel a lot better. It's very hard to do cuz I feel like I'm lazy since I don't do as much, but physichally feel 10x better.
Now, the thing is even though i cut back I still have some serious problems on the days I have to work, and then I'll go to the gym and lift, and then martial arts gym. So, I thought about changing my schedule to where I LIFT 4 days a week very hardcore, and I get each muscle done twice a week.
Day 1 I'll do legs, day 2 back/ arms, day 3 chest/ triceps/ shoulders, and then day 4 I will do my entire body, but more of cables and toning. Some cardio thrown in between on different days. Day 5 will mainly focus on martial arts. Of course I sometimes go 1-3 times a week so I'll have to change it up a bit, but do you guys think this is good???
I know boxing gets you tone which would help me with bodybuilding/ modeling, but it's hard when you want to get bigger, and if you didn't do all the boxing/ martial arts, and focused on weights you'd gain so much faster....Of course I'd be just another stiff, big guy with no skill, or speed. What's your guys input?

BTW: My diet is pretty good. I eat 6-8 meals a day. Mainly chicken, fish, tuna, eggs, fruit, and vegetables. Not many carbs. Take in a little protein with each meal. So, diet wise I'm doing enough to compensate for all the work I do.

[Kolya]

It's really hard to balance. Why not just do a short, modified boxing workout 3 times a week as your cardio when you're in a cutting stage trying to get defined, and that way you can still be around it and do it, but not to the impediment of your bodybuilding?

[ChrisPontius]

Choose either of them, you can't do both. Bodybuilders are lousy boxers. Boxers can be built but mostly not really so.

[viru§™]

I think you'd have to drop 1 of the 3. It's possible to do bodybuilding and train martial arts, IIan Rosenberg is a good example -

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I can't see you having enough time and energy to train all 3 to a decent level.

[BlackWater]

Younghypno can do it, so can you!

[younghypnotiq]

i weightlift 4x a week alog with boxing and manhy other martial arts. im not doing a body building program im doing a westside barbell program. are you going to compete natural or not? if not then u can easily do all three

[Kolya]

i weightlift 4x a week alog with boxing and manhy other martial arts. im not doing a body building program im doing a westside barbell program. are you going to compete natural or not? if not then u can easily do all three


Yeah, until you fail a tox screen if you compete in anything else.

[heavybag]

If you want to do any of those well or as a profession , its best to focus your efforts on the one you want most

[Primenal]

i weightlift 4x a week alog with boxing and manhy other martial arts. im not doing a body building program im doing a westside barbell program. are you going to compete natural or not? if not then u can easily do all three

Completely natural. The only supplements I even take are whey protein, creatine, and muscle milk. Honestly I don't react well to many drugs/ supplements anyways.
I know what you guys are saying about picking the most important, only one, etc. Doing all 3 I'm still making pretty good gains, but like I said if I'd focus on one my gains would be awesome...Especially after doing so much work, and cutting it down to only one thing to focus on.
I'm never going to box amatuers/ pro, and I'll probably never do a kickboxing tournament...Just something I enjoy. Guess I'll just try to do away with a little more of it, use that time to bodybuild, and see how I like it.

[Kolya]

Why don't you do what I suggested, using some boxing workouts 3 days a week as your cardio to stay cut and when you're getting close to competition. Beats the shit out of sitting on a stationary bike or on a treadmill. :)

[Primenal]

Why don't you do what I suggested, using some boxing workouts 3 days a week as your cardio to stay cut and when you're getting close to competition. Beats the shit out of sitting on a stationary bike or on a treadmill. :)

How long of workouts on those 3 days? I still box about everyday (even whenever I lift), but only do it for around 30 minutes. I mainly use it for tecnique though.

Alright, I'll post my new schedule here. I work abs everyday I workout, and most of my lifting takes me around an hour and a half-2 hours:

Day 1: I'll go to my martial arts class this day which takes around 2 hours. Earlier in the day I'll only do cardio (run, swim, jump rope, little bit of abs). NO LIFTING.
Day 2: Practice martial arts at the house (around 30 minutes), Lifting: Chest, triceps, and shoulders.
Day 3: Boxing- bagwork. Lifting: Legs. Do a little bit of swimming.
Day 4: Martial arts at the house, Lifting: Back, arms
Day 5: I made this a grueling lifting day. I work every muscle, but it's more toning...Around 10 reps per set. A lot of cables mainly, but also things like pushups, pullups, etc.

What do you guys think? That schedule covers everything except my martial arts classes are mon/ wed/ fri. I usually can only make it to 1-2, but if I can make more than 1 I have to fit it in there.
I'm practicing boxing/ martial arts everyday, but not overdoing it, working every muscle twice a week, and still getting pretty good cardio. Opinions/ suggestions?

[younghypnotiq]

Completely natural. The only supplements I even take are whey protein, creatine, and muscle milk. Honestly I don't react well to many drugs/ supplements anyways.
I know what you guys are saying about picking the most important, only one, etc. Doing all 3 I'm still making pretty good gains, but like I said if I'd focus on one my gains would be awesome...Especially after doing so much work, and cutting it down to only one thing to focus on.
I'm never going to box amatuers/ pro, and I'll probably never do a kickboxing tournament...Just something I enjoy. Guess I'll just try to do away with a little more of it, use that time to bodybuild, and see how I like it.

bullshit. ofcourse u would respond well to steroids. anyway. i wud do somthin like this. find a good bodybuilding routine. and post it up so i can look at it. do it 3-4x a week. box 2-3x a week. and do MAs 2x a week.

[RDJ]

Too much muscle mass won't do you any good in boxing, but if you like doing it as a cardio session like Kolya suggested who are we to suggest you shouldn't? If you want to enter a ring things become a little bit different.

[younghypnotiq]

first of all muscle mass will helpyou because as long as u have good technique etc u wil be ableto hit harder. but im not here to argue. my dude its not that hard to body buil and box and do MAs. and how old are u like 12?

[younghypnotiq]

ur not going to beceome a body builder with that shit workout. go to t-nation.com and ask gtfo out of here u have no clue wat ur tlaking about and ur gettig bad advice here. t-nation nos muhc more aboutt is subject.

[younghypnotiq]

btw not nocking koyla and rdj etc. ur advice was good but if u look at his routine its fucking garbage he wil never get far with that. he needs to get a real routine. and we cnat help him with that

[Primenal]

ur not going to beceome a body builder with that shit workout. go to t-nation.com and ask gtfo out of here u have no clue wat ur tlaking about and ur gettig bad advice here. t-nation nos muhc more aboutt is subject.

Geesh, a bit harsh. I apperciate the advice, and will check out the site, but my workouts can't be that much garbage. Anyways, I avatared a pic I took about a month ago. I'm 5'6, and around 163. I'm not looking to be 220 pds of muscle for bodybuilding....I can bodybuild at practically any weight. I could bodybuild at 163 really, but would rather gain a little more size (as long as it's functional muscle).
I'm sure I could quit boxing, and doing martial arts altogether, lift 5-6 times a week, and grow like hell, but that isn't what I want. I'd be just another big, stiff guy with absolutely no skill, that would be torn apart by anybody with a little skill.
As for roids...nobody reacts well to steroids (MENTALLY). of course my body would react to steroids, but I'm talking about your mind. Plus, it's cheating, and has harmful effects on you.

Honestly though, I see myself doing more of the fitness modeling. Bodybuilding is usually a cheating sport anyways...Where a lot of guys took steroids for years to acheive size, quit once they got big enough, and all they have to do from there is rip up. It'd be an uphill battle for anyone not taking them, but I don't rule it out. Something I could maybe do in a few years. At least with the modeling I can still focus on martial arts, boxing, and as long as I diet/ stay ripped it doesn't matter what size I am.

[RDJ]

first of all muscle mass will helpyou because as long as u have good technique etc u wil be ableto hit harder.

It will also move you up in weight class and make you run out of energy faster.

[ralphc]

I've been lifting weights for about 5 years now, and pretty built. I've boxed for a couple (mainly working the bag), and about a year ago started to go to boxing gyms. I've been doing martial arts (Jeen kune do) for about 6 months.
Now, my main goal is more of bodybuilding. Boxing, and martial arts are just something I love to do, I love the confidence it brings to know I can handle myself no matter who they are, and enjoy fighting. My current plan is first to get in to fitness modeling by at least next summer, and 2-3 years down the road I'm gonna start competing on stage for bodybuilding. As for normal jobs...Physichal therapy, massage therapy, personal training is all stuff I have in mind.

I've been having a ton of trouble doing all 3 though. First I was overtraining like hell, and gaining no weight. 6 days a week, sometimes I'd workout 2-3 times a day, and anywhere from 3 hours-5 hours in a days time. I said piss on that though, and cut it back to 5 days, and at the very most I workout twice in one day anywhere from 2-3 hours. I'm making much bigger gains now, and feel a lot better. It's very hard to do cuz I feel like I'm lazy since I don't do as much, but physichally feel 10x better.
Now, the thing is even though i cut back I still have some serious problems on the days I have to work, and then I'll go to the gym and lift, and then martial arts gym. So, I thought about changing my schedule to where I LIFT 4 days a week very hardcore, and I get each muscle done twice a week.
Day 1 I'll do legs, day 2 back/ arms, day 3 chest/ triceps/ shoulders, and then day 4 I will do my entire body, but more of cables and toning. Some cardio thrown in between on different days. Day 5 will mainly focus on martial arts. Of course I sometimes go 1-3 times a week so I'll have to change it up a bit, but do you guys think this is good???
I know boxing gets you tone which would help me with bodybuilding/ modeling, but it's hard when you want to get bigger, and if you didn't do all the boxing/ martial arts, and focused on weights you'd gain so much faster....Of course I'd be just another stiff, big guy with no skill, or speed. What's your guys input?

BTW: My diet is pretty good. I eat 6-8 meals a day. Mainly chicken, fish, tuna, eggs, fruit, and vegetables. Not many carbs. Take in a little protein with each meal. So, diet wise I'm doing enough to compensate for all the work I do.



When you become a jack of all trades, you will also become a master of none. If that is your intention then you are doing a good job.

[younghypnotiq]

It will also move you up in weight class and make you run out of energy faster.

bullshit. as long as u dont sacrifice your endurance training and skill training weight lifting will only make u stronger and mayby make u ove up a weight class if u eat alot.

[younghypnotiq]

Geesh, a bit harsh. I apperciate the advice, and will check out the site, but my workouts can't be that much garbage. Anyways, I avatared a pic I took about a month ago. I'm 5'6, and around 163. I'm not looking to be 220 pds of muscle for bodybuilding....I can bodybuild at practically any weight. I could bodybuild at 163 really, but would rather gain a little more size (as long as it's functional muscle).
I'm sure I could quit boxing, and doing martial arts altogether, lift 5-6 times a week, and grow like hell, but that isn't what I want. I'd be just another big, stiff guy with absolutely no skill, that would be torn apart by anybody with a little skill.
As for roids...nobody reacts well to steroids (MENTALLY). of course my body would react to steroids, but I'm talking about your mind. Plus, it's cheating, and has harmful effects on you.

Honestly though, I see myself doing more of the fitness modeling. Bodybuilding is usually a cheating sport anyways...Where a lot of guys took steroids for years to acheive size, quit once they got big enough, and all they have to do from there is rip up. It'd be an uphill battle for anyone not taking them, but I don't rule it out. Something I could maybe do in a few years. At least with the modeling I can still focus on martial arts, boxing, and as long as I diet/ stay ripped it doesn't matter what size I am.

sorry i just want u to be ur best. and that workout is absolute shit.
start here.
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[RDJ]

bullshit. as long as u dont sacrifice your endurance training and skill training weight lifting will only make u stronger and mayby make u ove up a weight class if u eat alot.

This thread is about gaining MUSCLE MASS. Which adds weight, and wastes energy faster. The tiresome phrase "when done correctly" doesn't apply here.

[Relentless]

you can do all 3 when done correctly.

[BlackWater]

This thread is about gaining MUSCLE MASS. Which adds weight, and wastes energy faster. The tiresome phrase "when done correctly" doesn't apply here.

you can do all 3 when done correctly.

:lol:

[RDJ]

you can do all 3 when done correctly.

Peanut butter? :think

[Relentless]

Peanut butter? :think

f*** that, ricky hatton only takes supplements when training for a fight.

[Primenal]

LOL, think I started a war here.

Ralphc: " When you become a jack of all trades, you will also become a master of none. If that is your intention then you are doing a good job."

I agree with that statement, but what percentage of people ever become a MASTER at anything? My martial arts trainer is a 5th degree black belt, and has been training for 35 years....He is a legitimate badass, and would rip a lot of people apart, but he's no master. I'm 22, just started martial arts, I'm not asian so that pretty much rules out my chances of being a master LOL

As for being a master of boxing (not sure what you would consider) I'd say that is at least a pro whom is a main event draw, and making a lot of $. If I pursued it I think I could do pretty well in boxing, but don't want to take a chance of getting serious hurt/ messing up my face. So, rules that one out.

And as for bodybuilding...Most of the guys who win are on/ have been on so much shit to get to look that way. I mean whenever you have guys at your local gym (whom don't even compete) pumping the juice...what do you think guys are willing to do when there competing, and making lots of $ off there bodies?

So, to master something takes many, many years, and most will never acheive it. So, think I'll stick with doing all 3 (with common sense). Maybe I'll use more of the boxing/ martial arts as cardio/ toning, and get more of my size from lifting. I'll figure something out, but doubt many people could help me. I mean you don't see Mr. USA doing splits...You don't see a 300 pd muscled up boxer. Meaning if I talk to somebody who boxes doubt they'd be able to help me with any bodybuilding. And I damn sure know if I talk to somebody who bodybuilds they wouldn't be able to tell me about my martial arts/ boxing. There so stiff they don't even know what the word *stretching* means.