View Full Version : Marquez brothers: Are they the greatest boxing brothers in history?
Mrboogie23
07-23-2007, 05:53 PM
They've both had some great accomplishments. Both are technically very good. Good wins on both resumes. Both in the upper echelons of their weight classes. Neither guy is an easy night for any fighter in their division. Are they best pair of pugilist brothers ever?
There are other brothers out there that have some good accomplishments. The Klitschkos, Spinx brothers, pacquiaos, and a whole shitload of others. Do the marquez brothers trump them?
EpsilonAxis
07-23-2007, 06:03 PM
IMO almost certainly.
They are both top ten pfp fighters, IMO. In ten years, people will look back on those two in awe. They are such precision boxer/punchers. Masters of their art.
IMO JMM is like a modern day Salvador Sanchez.
Amsterdam
07-23-2007, 06:06 PM
In peak/peak match ups, I have trouble picking anyone over JMM at 126, that says a lot. Rafa Marquez is a fine pugilist also.
Amsterdam
07-23-2007, 06:07 PM
IMO almost certainly.
They are both top ten pfp fighters, IMO. In ten years, people will look back on those two in awe. They are such precision boxer/punchers. Masters of their art.
IMO JMM is like a modern day Salvador Sanchez.
I agree, give time and they see fit on everyone of them.
Mrboogie23
07-23-2007, 06:21 PM
I agree with you guys. They are fine boxers for sure. I'd like to know who voted for the Klitschkos. Not to rag on you or anything. I'd just like an opinion on why.
Amsterdam
07-23-2007, 06:22 PM
I agree with you guys. They are fine boxers for sure. I'd like to know who voted for the Klitschkos. Not to rag on you or anything. I'd just like an opinion on why.
With how Klitschko fans act, you need an explanation?:yep
Mrboogie23
07-23-2007, 06:25 PM
With how Klitschko fans act, you need an explanation?:yep
true. :lol:
I mean, if they're gonna vote they could at least give an explanation as to why they feel the way the do.
Thread Stealer
07-23-2007, 06:26 PM
Probably when you take into account the quality of both of them.
While Michael Spinks is greater than either Marquez brother, both Rafael and J.M. are considerably ahead of Leon.
And the Klitschkos are pretty good heavyweights, but not on the level of the Marquez brothers. Wlad has more upside, but I still see the Marquez brothers going down in history in higher regard.
Marnoff
07-23-2007, 06:30 PM
Probably when you take into account the quality of both of them.
While, Michael Spinks is greater than either Marquez brother, both Rafael and J.M. are considerably ahead of Leon.
Well said. That's why I go Marquez brothers over the Spinks brothers.
sues2nd
07-23-2007, 06:31 PM
HOW COULD ANYONE RATE ANY BROTHER COMBO ABOVE THE SPINKS???
Michael Spinks is arguably the greatest LHW of all time....and a former undisputed HW champion. His career dwarfs both Marquez brothers.
This post proves that most people who post here started watching boxing post 1999.
Mrboogie23
07-23-2007, 06:42 PM
HOW COULD ANYONE RATE ANY BROTHER COMBO ABOVE THE SPINKS???
Michael Spinks is arguably the greatest LHW of all time....and a former undisputed HW champion. His career dwarfs both Marquez brothers.
This post proves that most people who post here started watching boxing post 1999.
I dont agree and I've been watching boxing since the early 80's. Basically for my whole life. My dads has a decent fight collection. :D
Michael is a great fighter and has great accomplishments. I think that both the Marquez brothers accomplishments outshine Leons accomplishments.
I'm talking about what both brothers have accomplished, not just one being great and the second one being decent or good.
*edit*
I meant michael has great accomplishments but leons accomplishments are trumped by the marquez brothers
brooklyn1550
07-23-2007, 07:23 PM
Don't forget Mike and Tommy Gibbons
Toopretty
07-23-2007, 10:17 PM
I LOVE Raf marquez. I mean his powerful accurate punches are a thing of beauty I mean he got every punch in the book..left hook. Right cross uppercuts with either hand..Power in both hands and accuracy. I mean, he throws flawless punches with pop. The best jab in boxing to me..period.. I dont care.. Juan is the slicker better all around boxer. But Raf is the best offensive fighter in the game to me. His chin is shakey and his defense is a little suspect..but he is my favorite fighter to watch period..
Marnoff
07-24-2007, 12:14 AM
HOW COULD ANYONE RATE ANY BROTHER COMBO ABOVE THE SPINKS???
Michael Spinks is arguably the greatest LHW of all time....and a former undisputed HW champion. His career dwarfs both Marquez brothers.
This post proves that most people who post here started watching boxing post 1999.
The Marquez brothers are still going, however, and have more time to keep writing their story.
the Marquez bros are 2 of the most elite technicians in the biz...i love watching either of them at work...
Shpion
07-24-2007, 12:16 AM
Well said. That's why I go Marquez brothers over the Spinks brothers.
I second that.
brooklyn1550
07-24-2007, 12:18 AM
When their respective careers are over, I do believe that they will be remembered as the best boxing brothers in history. They still have some time to add on to their resumes.
errsta
07-24-2007, 12:19 AM
Marquez Brothers, then Spinks, then Klits...
Klits have the benefit of a not too deep division in their era. Not their fault, but they've hit speedbumps along the way.
The Spinks acheived success in the amateur and professional ranks. Sure, You can find flaws in their respective careers, but gold medals and heavyweight titles in that era are hard to discount.
brooklyn1550
07-24-2007, 01:35 AM
the rest are not so great, either.
Michael Spinks was a GREAT professional
Leon Spinks was a GREAT amateur
Farmboxer
07-24-2007, 01:37 AM
When Vitali Klitschko wins the WBC Title again, they will be the best in boxing history. Don King is doing all he can to stop them, but in spite of Don King they will be successful.
cpnasty
07-24-2007, 01:39 AM
Yeah, they are
pejevan
07-24-2007, 03:12 AM
how abut the penalosa brothers. Gerry penalosa has a brother, Dodie Boy,who despite physical limitation (polio) became a world champon (ibf flyweight). They should also be considered.
But skillwise, the Marquez are head aove the others.
sues2nd
07-24-2007, 03:37 AM
I dont agree and I've been watching boxing since the early 80's. Basically for my whole life. My dads has a decent fight collection. :D
Michael is a great fighter and has great accomplishments. I think that both the Marquez brothers accomplishments outshine Leons accomplishments.
I'm talking about what both brothers have accomplished, not just one being great and the second one being decent or good.
*edit*
I meant michael has great accomplishments but leons accomplishments are trumped by the marquez brothers
Fair enough....
I think I was just shocked by seeing people voted the Klits over them that something deep inside of me just snapped.....:twisted:
Objectively, counting both fighters careers together you could make an arguement that it goes to Juan and Raph. But slightly...and as Marnof said...they still have time to make it greater.
I admit my fault......BUT, ya gotta shake your head that Wlad and Vitali actually got votes.
:huh
AND ARE BEATING THE SPINKS BROTHERS???!?!???!????
Mrboogie23
07-24-2007, 03:40 AM
Fair enough....
I think I was just shocked by seeing people voted the Klits over them that something deep inside of me just snapped.....:twisted:
Objectively, counting both fighters careers together you could make an arguement that it goes to Juan and Raph. But slightly...and as Marnof said...they still have time to make it greater.
I admit my fault......BUT, ya gotta shake your head that Wlad and Vitali actually got votes.
:huh
AND ARE BEATING THE SPINKS BROTHERS???!?!???!????
:lol:
yeah, it bugged me too. Thats why I asked that someone that voted for them actually step up and post their opinion on the subject. I knew it was going to happen but sadly I forgot to make the poll a public one.
I do agree that both brothers must accomplish more. I honestly feel that they will. They're both damn good fighters.
God damn it, I voted for the Marquez brothers by mistake. Spinks brothers win this for sure, compare the accomplishments and you'll get the answer easily.
theunderdog
07-24-2007, 04:26 AM
how abut the penalosa brothers. Gerry penalosa has a brother, Dodie Boy,who despite physical limitation (polio) became a world champon (ibf flyweight). They should also be considered.
But skillwise, the Marquez are head aove the others.
the penalosa brothers were good fighters. i even think that the younger is the best technical filipino fighter ever. but they are nowhere near the three brothers mentioned.
the marquez brothers are both in the top 10 p4p. that's something the penalosa's couldn't even dream of becoming
ericfabre
07-24-2007, 06:10 AM
What about Khaosai and Khaokor Galaxy of Thailand. They are not only brothers. They are twins. I think they are better than the Klitchkos and the Spinks brothers. Maybe they are at par if not better than the Marquez brothers.
El Bujia
12-25-2011, 02:21 PM
Gibbons brothers.
hussleman
12-25-2011, 02:25 PM
Spinks brothers. Both were Olympic Gold medal winners and undisputed HW champs. Micheal Spinks was arguably the greatest LHW champ ever!!
elTerrible
12-25-2011, 02:40 PM
Marquez brothers are the best in terms of two brothers being that talented at the same time. Klitchkos are very good as well but not as well rounded and they usually enjoy a nice size advantage on their opponents and havent fought the same level of competition but that isnt their fault because they fight what is available.
There is a wide gap between leon and michael spinks in terms of talent. Other than a great amateur career and going 1-1 with Ali when parkinsons was begining, leon spink's pro career wasnt that great. A lot of guys have a brother that fought. Pac, Morales, Hatton, ect but usually one is way better than the other. JMM are probably the only ones that were both top ten p4p for a good while.
CHAL_DIESEL
12-25-2011, 02:41 PM
it has to be the Klitschko brothers
the cobra
12-25-2011, 03:17 PM
Mike & Tommy Gibbons.
motownsiu
12-25-2011, 03:29 PM
spinks should be placed with the norris brothers. leon turned out to be a frontrunner.
boxon123
12-25-2011, 03:50 PM
What about the Galaxy Twins?
Jordan_Davies
12-25-2011, 04:29 PM
Entertainment wise they are but you cant hate on the Kbros dominance in the heavyweight division
Its close between them and the Klitschkos
El Bujia
12-25-2011, 04:29 PM
In no order, here's a list of notable boxing brothers. Pick your poison:
Max and Buddy Baer
Michael and Leon Spinks
Mike and Tommy Gibbons
Juan Manuel and Rafael Marquez
Wladimir and Vitali Klitschko
Khaokor and Khaosai Galaxy
Matt and Dave Hilton
Joe and Vince Dundee
Gabriel and Rafael Ruelas
Gerry and Dodie Boy Penalosa
Chris and Kevin Finnegan
Tony, Paulie, and Mike Ayala
Tony and Frankie Baltazar
Richie and Alberto Sandoval
Gaby and Orlando Canizales
Donald and Bruce Curry
Gene and Don Fullmer
Marvin Hagler and Robbie Sims (half-brothers)
Danny and Ernie Lopez
Terry and Orlin Norris
Jerry and Mike Quarry
Jack and Mike Sullivan
Crisanto and Ernesto Espana
box101
12-26-2011, 01:52 PM
definitly Marquez brothers but no one mentioned them Morales bros legendary Erik an an i believe diego was belt holder
ssdfrb
12-26-2011, 02:42 PM
no love for the hattons?
Anarchy99
12-26-2011, 03:40 PM
HOW COULD ANYONE RATE ANY BROTHER COMBO ABOVE THE SPINKS???
Michael Spinks is arguably the greatest LHW of all time....and a former undisputed HW champion. His career dwarfs both Marquez brothers.
This post proves that most people who post here started watching boxing post 1999.
Neither Marquez brother got destroyed in 91 seconds in their biggest fight only to cower and retire after.
El Bujia
12-26-2011, 03:49 PM
Neither Marquez brother got destroyed in 91 seconds in their biggest fight only to cower and retire after.Spinks was past his prime, above his best weight and suffering from chronic knee troubles by that time. No Lt. Heavyweight in the history of the sport is moving up and faring well against a peak Tyson, especially at that stage of their careers.
I disagree that the Spinks brothers are the best tandem because Leon absolutely pales in comparison to his all time great brother. But Michael was better than either Rafael or Juan Manuel in his prime.
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