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This is a message to all of our posters who find it funny for some reason to go to other forums on this site and try to stir everyone up by saying A Mundine is the best ever and p4p no1 ect.
All you are doing is making an idiot and a troll of yourself. Everyone knows and realises you are trying to cause trouble and just ignores it. This isn't the 5th grade, can we please move on from this cheap trick.
All it does is encourage idiocy. That is why you see threads coming into our forum saying "Mundine is a faggott" and "Aussies don't have any good fighters ect". It is just plain annoying so please don't do it.
Anyway thats my bitch and whinge for the day. If you could take it on board it would be much appreciated:good
The Man 247
06-20-2007, 08:58 AM
This is a message to all of our posters who find it funny for some reason to go to other forums on this site and try to stir everyone up by saying A Mundine is the best ever and p4p no1 ect.
All you are doing is making an idiot and a troll of yourself. Everyone knows and realises you are trying to cause trouble and just ignores it. This isn't the 5th grade, can we please move on from this cheap trick.
All it does is encourage idiocy. That is why you see threads coming into our forum saying "Mundine is a faggott" and "Aussies don't have any good fighters ect". It is just plain annoying so please don't do it.
Anyway thats my bitch and whinge for the day. If you could take it on board it would be much appreciated:good
Dude, Mundine is talented. Yes all these things are overrated and stupid. Whoever said he is the P4p number one lol has had a case of crownies tonigth im sure. YES mstr i agree with you. But Mundine could be there in a couple of years right?
The Man 247
06-20-2007, 09:04 AM
:roflbut floyd retired.. so mundine must be?:huh:rofl
Dude, Mundine is talented. Yes all these things are overrated and stupid. Whoever said he is the P4p number one lol has had a case of crownies tonigth im sure. YES mstr i agree with you. But Mundine could be there in a couple of years right?
No mate. Mundine would have to beat Kessler, Calzaghe and then either move down and beat Wright, Pavlik or Abraham or up to beat Dawson or another top light heavy. No way is that going to happen considering Mundine is 32 and knowing the competition he regularly faces. Basically short of a flat out miracle it will never happen. Sorry to shatter your dreams.
He can still however prove himself to be the number 1 at super middle which would be a very hard task, albeit a lot more realistic however.
The Man 247
06-20-2007, 09:09 AM
No mate. Mundine would have to beat Kessler, Calzaghe and then either move down and beat Wright, Pavlik or Abraham or up to beat Dawson or another top light heavy. No way is that going to happen considering Mundine is 32 and knowing the competition he regularly faces. Basically short of a flat out miracle it will never happen. Sorry to shatter your dreams.
He can still however prove himself to be the number 1 at super middle which would be a very hard task, albeit a lot more realistic however.
Yes i agree with you i guess. I have faith in him being the number 1 SMW. But i agree with what your saying.
Yes i agree with you i guess. I have faith in him being the number 1 SMW. But i agree with what your saying.
If he beat JC and Kessler he could become the best SMW, and would be in the p4p top ten with those 2 victories under his belt, probably around number 7-8. If that is any consilation at all. He is just too old to really have that sort of potential in him.
PorkChopExpress
06-20-2007, 09:40 AM
This is a message to all of our posters who find it funny for some reason to go to other forums on this site and try to stir everyone up by saying A Mundine is the best ever and p4p no1 ect.
All you are doing is making an idiot and a troll of yourself. Everyone knows and realises you are trying to cause trouble and just ignores it. This isn't the 5th grade, can we please move on from this cheap trick.
All it does is encourage idiocy. That is why you see threads coming into our forum saying "Mundine is a faggott" and "Aussies don't have any good fighters ect". It is just plain annoying so please don't do it.
Anyway thats my bitch and whinge for the day. If you could take it on board it would be much appreciated:good
You're trying to reason with people who have the mental capacity/maturity and reasoning skills of drowned ants dude. All the best with your endeavour, but good luck!!!
P.S. I agree with you, but that don't mean the drowned ants will understand you.
Amsterdam
06-20-2007, 09:44 AM
Yes, it's embarassing to knowledgable Aussie fans, but is it any more embarassing to knowledgable boxing fans universally when some of these fools claim Khan is the next British P4P great?:lol:
Yes, it's embarassing to knowledgable Aussie fans, but is it any more embarassing to knowledgable boxing fans universally when some of these fools claim Khan is the next British P4P great?:lol:
I haven't seen enough of Khan to comment. From what I saw he appeared to have a lot of natural ability, although seemed raw. How has he progressed in recent fights?
You're trying to reason with people who have the mental capacity/maturity and reasoning skills of drowned ants dude. All the best with your endeavour, but good luck!!!
P.S. I agree with you, but that don't mean the drowned ants will understand you.
:good
Amsterdam
06-20-2007, 09:54 AM
I haven't seen enough of Khan to comment. From what I saw he appeared to have a lot of natural ability, although seemed raw. How has he progressed in recent fights?
He's given fragile tomato cans a shelling, which the amount he landed on Steffy Bull, who is not durable and hadn't fought in a while, shows that he lacks substantial punching power.
He has zero head movement, has shotty footwork, his speed is quite overrated and he lacks a standardised defence except for the ability to pop in and out, a good fighter would send counter down the pipe everytime.
He also doesn't keep his chin tucked, he's an embarassment considering how much they have pushed him.
He's given fragile tomato cans a shelling, which the amount he landed on Steffy Bull, who is not durable and hadn't fought in a while, shows that he lacks substantial punching power.
He has zero head movement, has shotty footwork, his speed is quite overrated and he lacks a standardised defence except for the ability to pop in and out, a good fighter would send counter down the pipe everytime.
He also doesn't keep his chin tucked, he's an embarassment considering how much they have pushed him.
I will go download some more recent footage to have a better look. His footwork seemed off balance at times when I watched him as well. His speed was blinding though. Be interested to see whats happened to him.
Amsterdam
06-20-2007, 09:59 AM
I will go download some more recent footage to have a better look. His footwork seemed off balance at times when I watched him as well. His speed was blinding though. Be interested to see whats happened to him.
I just can't wait for him to get KOed brutally, then I can pour a drink and start working on the series of essays that describe this entire joke trip for every dumb Khan fan and apologist and how this is the bad example for boxing.
PorkChopExpress
06-20-2007, 10:10 AM
Man, i was living in London when Khan made his debut. Man, what a hype job.
It wasn't just the promoters/networks... since those Olympics everyone just went nuts over him... oooooh he's the next Hamed and shit. Was terrible trying to say "you know, he's got some good talent, but lets not kid ourselves here" to a bunch of people who considered themselves experts cuz of an article on page 18 of the fking Metro.
I like the guy, I want to see him win. But he should move to the US and leave Warren ASAP! If he want's any real credibility in the boxing world.
I mean, Hatton and JC are good champs (well, by certain standards...) and look at how they're viewed cuz of their association with Warren. I was so dissapointed when he chose Warren. I just knew we would see another waste of a good talent!
Amsterdam
06-20-2007, 10:12 AM
It's all about money my friend, and I hate how ignorant the boxing World is at the moment to act in such a manner, when will they learn that the Olympics only means so much to begin with?
Realistically what I seek is what is better for our favourite sport, and garbage like that degrades it's integrity.
PorkChopExpress
06-20-2007, 10:17 AM
Indeed.
I could understand how everyone got carried away and everything... and i'd love to see him make some waves. It just got laid on too thick.
tills9191
06-20-2007, 11:26 AM
what would come back to bite is if Mundine comes close to being a real possibility at being considered p4p contender
what would come back to bite is if Mundine comes close to being a real possibility at being considered p4p contender
It is still in the realm of possibility. If he beat JC and Kessler it would leave him around 7-8 on the p4p list, as both guys are very well regarded at the moment. However that is a very big IF.
Marcus
06-20-2007, 07:03 PM
I agree Roy, im a passonate fan but i know my fav fighter and where he sits on the p4p scale so i dont get stupid and call him the best ever!!
Of course roy isnt saying fuck off newbies but we aussie dont wanna look like dickheads to the world of boxing forums. IMO
I agree Roy, im a passonate fan but i know my fav fighter and where he sits on the p4p scale so i dont get stupid and call him the best ever!!
Of course roy isnt saying fuck off newbies but we aussie dont wanna look like dickheads to the world of boxing forums. IMO
Yeah too right. I think the main culprits Choc #1 and Boxa 112 have now been banned though judging by their recent inactivity. Has anyone else noticed that the newbies always come sporting Mundine avatarts, talk heaps of rubbish for a couple weeks and then never return. Seems a bit odd.
bennyjets
06-20-2007, 08:27 PM
Does anyone know the movements of Paul Briggs? Hope he gets back in the mix.
Marcus
06-20-2007, 08:33 PM
Can we ban all Mundine avatars :deal
Dr Gonzo
06-20-2007, 08:38 PM
Does anyone know the movements of Paul Briggs? Hope he gets back in the mix.
he has a fight coming up in the us against hugo garay - about 2 months i think
Kegsy
06-20-2007, 09:47 PM
he has a fight coming up in the us against hugo garay - about 2 months i think
Yeah in early September in USA.
Against Hugo Garay in a WBA World title Eliminator.
So the winner will become the mandatory for Stipe Drews's title.
stiflers mum
06-20-2007, 09:48 PM
This is a message to all of our posters who find it funny for some reason to go to other forums on this site and try to stir everyone up by saying A Mundine is the best ever and p4p no1 ect.
All you are doing is making an idiot and a troll of yourself. Everyone knows and realises you are trying to cause trouble and just ignores it. This isn't the 5th grade, can we please move on from this cheap trick.
All it does is encourage idiocy. That is why you see threads coming into our forum saying "Mundine is a faggott" and "Aussies don't have any good fighters ect". It is just plain annoying so please don't do it.
Anyway thats my bitch and whinge for the day. If you could take it on board it would be much appreciated:good
while i agree regarding mundine it is a free country and people can post what they want.the mundiners are nothing compared to the yanks.you should have seen all the'lacy ko3'or'lacy wins fatality'threads before he fought JC.wait until i get going before katsidis/diaz fight:yep
while i agree regarding mundine it is a free country and people can post what they want.the mundiners are nothing compared to the yanks.you should have seen all the'lacy ko3'or'lacy wins fatality'threads before he fought JC.wait until i get going before katsidis/diaz fight:yep
People can post what they want, but there are rules to the site as well. I don't have a problem with people saying something once in a while to stir someone up, but guys like Boxa was posting thread after thread in the british forum trying to start trouble, then going to the general and doing the same thing. If you get a few idiots doing this then it ruins the site for everyone else who has to put up with the constant stupidity.
China_hand_Joe
06-20-2007, 11:53 PM
I don't have a problem with people saying something once in a while to stir someone up, but guys like Boxa was posting thread after thread in the british forum trying to start trouble, then going to the general and doing the same thing.It is always a shame when a Calzaghe fan is left with no choice but to excercise their political and moral power.
It is always a shame when a Calzaghe fan is left with no choice but to excercise their political and moral power.
I thought you would miss the fact that Calzaghe fans were the underlying issure here, but you are much more perceptive then I first imagined. Well done.
Choc and Boxa was Jet and Speedy - they'll be back :happy:happy:happy
Dr Gonzo
06-21-2007, 01:50 AM
im not sure if it's about bans. although i like mundine myself i think its fair to say alot of his fans arent really boxing fans and probably arent going to be interested in a boxing forum for too long once they realise there are a couple of other fighters out there.
:good your probably pretty right on that one
im not sure if it's about bans. although i like mundine myself i think its fair to say alot of his fans arent really boxing fans and probably arent going to be interested in a boxing forum for too long once they realise there are a couple of other fighters out there.
Nah mate they were most probably banned. ESB don't tolerate crap from newbies, particulary people who troll and start threads abusing fighters or trying to get a reaction out of people for the sake of it. Apparently someone said boxah got banned for some comments about JC. Boxah is usually a solid poster, with close to 1000 posts too I think which gives you an idea of their attitude towards bad conduct. It is good too because other wise the forum would just turn to sh#t.
ashley
06-21-2007, 05:27 AM
I may have gone over to the Brits forum the other night with a 6 pack under my belt and said something like who is Joe {my bad}......but I would never say Mundine is p4p 1....I think he is P4P 100.
The Man 247
06-21-2007, 05:29 AM
I may have gone over to the Brits forum the other night with a 6 pack under my belt and said something like who is Joe {my bad}......but I would never say Mundine is p4p 1....I think he is P4P 100.
LOl i totally agree mate.
tills9191
06-21-2007, 05:33 AM
ESB must tightly monitor their site then uh... it must be heavily regulated..i mean i was banned for a few months just because I used the word sh*t in an article reply on the main page.
Dr Gonzo
06-21-2007, 05:36 AM
ESB must tightly monitor their site then uh... it must be heavily regulated..i mean i was banned for a few months just because I used the word sh*t in an article reply on the main page.
who is the moderator/s for this forum - its kinda strange because in other forums they usually flex their guns all the time and make posts
tills9191
06-21-2007, 05:42 AM
well i could still join the forums and reply, but right now I can't reply to the main page articles Until August i think... its ridiculous..
Dr Gonzo
06-21-2007, 05:44 AM
well i could still join the forums and reply, but right now I can't reply to the main page articles Until August i think... its ridiculous..
dont worry mate - just stick in the aussie forum and you'll be right
tills9191
06-21-2007, 05:49 AM
haha till august? shit you got slammed. over at B o x i n g s c e n e you have to make 50 racist threads to have a shot at an hour long ban. different worlds. i best watch my manners.
:lol: :lol:
boxing sc**e??
hehe, thanks, box sc. here i come !!
:lol: :lol: ill go and check it out!
You filthy cheaters. :twisted::twisted::twisted:
ESB is the one for me. I am a one girl kinda guy:good
China_hand_Joe
06-21-2007, 11:41 AM
I thought you would miss the fact that Calzaghe fans were the underlying issure here, but you are much more perceptive then I first imagined. Well done.It has nothing to do with Calzaghe fans. We have proven in the past we can co-exist with others.
Calzaghe and Kessler fans are like family now.
Max Molyneux
06-21-2007, 12:31 PM
Calzaghe and Kessler fans are like family now.
Do I have to remember there Birthdays?
tills9191
06-21-2007, 01:05 PM
this is starting to sound like the movie ''BLOOD IN BLOOD OUT''
You have the black gang, the hispanic esay's, and the white gang all in jail, and how the blacks and hispanics joined forces to beat the whites , and once they did that, the hispanics turned on the blacks and killed them..:lol:
Dr Gonzo
06-21-2007, 08:00 PM
this is starting to sound like the movie ''BLOOD IN BLOOD OUT''
You have the black gang, the hispanic esay's, and the white gang all in jail, and how the blacks and hispanics joined forces to beat the whites , and once they did that, the hispanics turned on the blacks and killed them..:lol:
happy someone else knows that movie - def very crazy
We need to find out who's the best smw. As a kessler fan i think, hope?, he's the man. And i think that Calgazhe fans feel the same way, imo. they are the best in the division, Mundine is a good figther wasting he's time fighting
nowbody's, makin a lot of money thou. That is what he's going after imo.
He's is not serius when he talk about big fight's, look at he's next fight,
a joke!, when you consider yourself as worldfighter there should be no easy fight's. It's all about money and you guy's will by it!:oops:
Dr Gonzo
06-22-2007, 03:23 AM
We need to find out who's the best smw. As a kessler fan i think, hope?, he's the man. And i think that Calgazhe fans feel the same way, imo. they are the best in the division, Mundine is a good figther wasting he's time fighting
nowbody's, makin a lot of money thou. That is what he's going after imo.
He's is not serius when he talk about big fight's, look at he's next fight,
a joke!, when you consider yourself as worldfighter there should be no easy fight's. It's all about money and you guy's will by it!:oops:
my friend you have just opened a big can of worms
We need to find out who's the best smw. As a kessler fan i think, hope?, he's the man. And i think that Calgazhe fans feel the same way, imo. they are the best in the division, Mundine is a good figther wasting he's time fighting
nowbody's, makin a lot of money thou. That is what he's going after imo.
He's is not serius when he talk about big fight's, look at he's next fight,
a joke!, when you consider yourself as worldfighter there should be no easy fight's. It's all about money and you guy's will by it!:oops:
I agree with what you are saying though. As a world champion you don't take easy fights. That said judging by Mundines prior history I believe that he waiting for a big fight, and that is why he doesn't want to risk it now for a lesser pay day. Still it would be nice to see him have a bit more confidence in his abilities.
deram
06-22-2007, 04:03 AM
I think it is ok that Mundine fights some easier fights in between. The real issue is that those "easier fights" are real stinkers! Even worse that Calzaghe's "easier opponents".
I would like to see Mundine take on Sergei Tseovysan, Velasco, Veit, Markussen, Mock, Gogiya etc. These are all top 20-40 in the world and Mundine should easily beat anyone of them. But at least it would still have a little value.
And after that he need to see Mundine take on the big guys like Bute, Braehmer, Inkin, Andrade, Lacy, Bika (yeah... I include him although borderline), Larsen (probably, let's see..), Berrio etc.
The real problem is not the easy fights - it is the ridiculous level of those fights. He seems to find fighters that noone had ever heard about before.
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