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laxpdx
07-12-2008, 06:39 AM
Can a man who nearly overcame Monzon (a faded one) matador this ferocious little bull?

I'm sure most will say yes...any nay-sayers, other than yours' truly?
natonic
07-12-2008, 07:21 AM
Wow, great matchup. Gonna have to do a little Youtube homework before offering an opinion. It's a shame we never got to see Ayala get the big fights that would've been available to him. It would have been explosive (not to mention making these comparisons a little easier). I saw the Valdez - Monzon fights, but in picking this one I'd want to see how Valdez handled a more straight ahead brawling type.
AREA 53
07-12-2008, 01:21 PM
I think if Rodrigo can get past Bad Bennie Briscoe three times without incurring a loss, I think Mr Valdez would Gain a pair of Ears from this immature bull rather easily, Tony might be dangerous very early, but Rodrigo was dangerous all the time, much the better athlete.
Minotauro
07-12-2008, 03:59 PM
Valdez beat Tony like he stole something.
natonic
07-12-2008, 06:35 PM
I rewatched the first Monzon - Valdez fight. I thought Valdez looked a little lethargic. I'd forgotten that his brother was killed a week before the fight. I also watched the first two rounds (so far) of the rematch. Monzon had a helluva chin because that right hand Valdez knocked him down with was huge and right on the button. I have to go with Valdez by late round stoppage. Ayala just never got in there with anyone really good to use as a measuring stick.
red cobra
07-13-2008, 05:43 PM
Valdez would beat Ayala so bad he would retire afterwards.
Xplosive
08-11-2008, 11:56 AM
Ayala wouldnt beat Briscoe, nevermind Valdez.
red cobra
08-11-2008, 01:02 PM
Valdez would have first outboxed Ayala silly, and then finished him with the same type of shot that felled Briscoe.
Loewe
08-11-2008, 01:49 PM
Valdez TKO8 Ayala . Tony´s corner would throw in the towel to prevent Tony of getting killed.
laxpdx
08-12-2008, 12:18 AM
I definitely think Ayala could beat Briscoe, as he wasn't very fast, thus easy to hit.

Valdez certainly was a solid contender at MW, certainly impressive in three wins over Briscoe. However he also lost to a faded Monzon twice. I think if he guns with Ayala and Tony gets his ribs, he would be in trouble.
Xplosive
08-12-2008, 12:20 AM
Yeah, and even a faded Monzon would have beaten the holy hell outta Ayala.
laxpdx
08-12-2008, 12:34 AM
Yeah, and even a faded Monzon would have beaten the holy hell outta Ayala.

If Tony slips the jab and gets to the body, maybe not.