Toney vs Blabbermouth Haye.

[Sundance]

If Toney beats Rahman he deserves a go at WK before the mighty Haye, so if Haye wants his shot will he back up his big mouth and face Toney or run scared? I think Toney would be too tough and Hayes chin would be tested, therefore he'll fight Monte Barrett and then sit on his arse in Cyprus claiming he's the greatest :lol:

[DamonD]

Would Toney be ready to fight in November? I doubt it.

And Haye specifically stated he had no interest in fighting Monte Barrett, when the studio guy brought it up.

[D-MAC]

If Toney beats Rahman he deserves a go at WK before the mighty Haye, so if Haye wants his shot will he back up his big mouth and face Toney or run scared? I think Toney would be too tough and Hayes chin would be tested, therefore he'll fight Monte Barrett and then sit on his arse in Cyprus claiming he's the greatest :lol:

What did Haye do to you?

Honestly.

Your blindness in this subject is quite baffling to me.

How the fuck can fat bastard Toney test Haye's chin if he's lying out-of-range on the ropes looking for the money punch that will never come.

[Sundance]

I'd back Toney's chin over superfly Haye's.

[GazOC]

Sundance is to Haye what Betty is to Hatton....

[Sundance]

Sundance is to Haye what Betty is to Hatton....


I hope Haye reads these boards is mad as hell!:fire Honestly though, Bunce just sat there tonight and let Haye dribble at the mouth. At least Lennox Lewis gave Wlad the credit he deserves for dismantling another strong opponent. Lewis has class, unlike superfly whose an :oops: to himself.

[Betty Swollocks]

Toney is shot, big time. The fading Toney of 3-4 years ago would've schooled Haye and stopped him...i'm sure about that, but not now.

[Claypole]

the credit he deserves for dismantling another strong opponent. Strong opponent? Thompson was woeful, and is probably feeling ashamed right now. Wlad treated it like a sparring match, and just waited for Thompson to fall over on his own accord.
Even so, whenever Thompson landed one of his half arsed punches, Wlad looked utterly clueless. Where was Wlad's combination punching? Why did he look tired? Why can't he jab properly anymore?

Sorry, but your support for Wlad is delusional. He is a fairly decent heavyweight up against dire opposition. I can only assume you are very young, and can't remember the "real" days of heavyweight boxing.

[dwilson]

Yippeee more Haye threads.

[Ilesey]

I read as far as you calling Haye a blabbermouth in the same sentence as Toney and just stopped reading.

[Sundance]

Wlad's performance was shocking for an "elite" HW. Plodding, predictable and unimaginative.

I really don't rate Toney at all now - he was outboxed by Sam Peter FFS! Sam Peter, the most overrated tub of lard currently at HW.

Maybe at the time of his win over Holyfield he could have done it, but now he's old, the reflexes have gone and we know he's always struggled with faster boxers. He lost to Montell Griffin! What more do you need to know?


Toney has had some average fights but I reckon he would rise to the challenge of Haye. Maybe he would actually train instead of looking like a black michelin man. Haye won't fight him anyway, he thinks he's too good:lol: I reckon Haye's going to get KO'd like Fraudley, another big mouth with no chin:D Haye actually believes his own hype that is the hilarious part!

And Wlad fought a great fight last night, all the moaners just can't take it that he dismantled another American hope.

[Sundance]

Be serious you fudd, Wlad's record speaks for itself. He's had setbacks and came back stronger, that's the mark of a true champion.

[biglads]

If Wlad is as good as it gets at HW right now, then bring back Gary Mason.

[Claypole]

He's had setbacks and came back stronger, that's the mark of a true champion.Your posts are actually getting worse, now.

How did he come back stronger from getting stopped by Ross Puritty? By getting stopped against Sanders. He came back stronger again but got thumped by Brewster.

He hasn't come back stronger after setbacks. All he's done is manage to win fights by refusing to engage an opponent, even when it's on a plate.

Wlad's been shit recently, and you full well know it.

[Max Molyneux]

Toney a few years ago would of shoulder rolled past Haye's straight right and outclassed him on the Inside.

Too shot now though.

Loved watching Toney school and counter Jirov off the ropes too, pushing Toney on the ropes makes It easier for him to bounce coutners off your noggin.

[Big N Bad]

are you guys crazy? you guys are falling into the haye hype. he is very very very good, but not as good as toney.

toney would not only test his chin, he would school him in the art of boxing right from kinder garden all the way to university!

seriously though, haye is dangerous because of his speed and especially his power but toney has seen it all before. also the reason why toney could knock this guy out is simply because he has the power.

toney had one punch knockouts all the way from middleweight to cruiserweight. he's not a huge puncher at HW but he can still knock alot of guys and stop anyone if in shape.

[TFFP]

It's a big call, but I think Haye would stop Toney at this stage of his career.

[dan-b]

Is this going to be an on going theme with you? These hate threads I mean, it's going to get old pretty quickly.

[Claypole]

Is this going to be an on going theme with you? These hate threads I mean, it's going to get old pretty quickly.Sundance has made a knob of himself on 3 threads at the same time, not to mention the garbage he's probably been getting away with on the General forum.


Why is it always the Kitschko fans that do this sort of stuff? I reckon it's a man-love kind of thing.

[dan-b]

Sundance has made a knob of himself on 3 threads at the same time, not to mention the garbage he's probably been getting away with on the General forum.


Why is it always the Kitschko fans that do this sort of stuff? I reckon it's a man-love kind of thing.

Yup the Klithuggers are totally irrational. I think they see the brothers as icons that enrich their lives, so anyone who tries to undermine their mystique is met with venom.

[brown bomber]

Yup the Klithuggers are totally irrational. I think they see the brothers as icons that enrich their lives, so anyone who tries to undermine their mystique is met with venom.I think their all ex-ABBA fans.

[dan-b]

I think their all ex-ABBA fans.

It's strange how these threads have emerged just after Klitschko has put in another joke performance don't you think?

[Anthony Farnell]

:lol: Haye has certainly got everyone talking.

[Sundance]

I'm not a Haye hater, he's an exciting fighter. I just don't like his constant trash talking about Klitschko when Haye has nothing but Cruiserweight belts, and isnt planning on fighting for months. Let's not forget Mormeck came close to stopping superfly. What will Haye do when a James Toney, Arreola or Virchis smack him, a robot dance I imagine.

[Claypole]

Haye has nothing but Cruiserweight belts, and isnt planning on fighting for months. Let's not forget Mormeck came close to stopping superfly. What will Haye do when a James Toney, Arreola or Virchis smack him, a robot dance I imagine.

It seems David Haye can't win with you. You believe his punch resistance was questionable at cruiserweight (which is fair enough), but then go on to critisise him for taking his time preparing for heavyweight.

As for him constantly calling out Wlad, I expect nothing less from him.

[Sundance]

It seems David Haye can't win with you. You believe his punch resistance was questionable at cruiserweight (which is fair enough), but then go on to critisise him for taking his time preparing for heavyweight.

As for him constantly calling out Wlad, I expect nothing less from him.


As I said on another post Holyfield took no break at all when he relinquished his Cruiserweight belts. If Haye is as great as he says he is (i.e better or as good as Holyfield) then he has no excuses. Haye also claimed he struggled to make weight, the evidence just stacks up against Haye or was he lying about the weight? He's not just calling out Wlad he's trash talking the guy, which shows up Haye to be a punk. Haye hasn't fought a proper HW yet, a fat little bloke called Bonin ranked outside top 100 doesnt count. Haye huggers should take him to task for being such a bullshit artist.

[Claypole]

As I said on another post Holyfield took no break at all when he relinquished his Cruiserweight belts.Why do you keep bringing that up? It's meaningless. Haye and Holyfield have different physiques and no doubt different training methods.
Haye has told us how long it will take to get himself ready, and in the meantime he is doing a great job of promoting himself.

I reckon you want Haye to fight immediately, and get knocked out. That way, you, (and Wlad), can both breath a big sigh of relief.
The thought of Haye spending all these months packing on muscle, getting stronger, punching harder, it makes you huggers uneasy......

[Sundance]

It's only meaninglesss to you because as a Haye hugger you think he's godlike. I see it for what it is, BS! Holyfied built himself up while still fighting, that's what being a fighter is about. And if Haye does come in top heavy he'll be easier to hit, have less mobility and cardio, so I hope he does pile it on. Maybe Haye is on the roids? That would be one good explanation for the secret Cyprus 9 month camp.

[Claypole]

That's it, I'm all done here after that last post from Sundance.

[Sundance]

That's it, I'm all done here after that last post from Sundance.


Another Haye hugger eats the canvass. I'm knocking them out the park like Don Bradman vs England for the ashes.:happy

[bored]

Haye KO Bradman.

[Claypole]

Another Haye hugger eats the canvass. Yeah, whatever. Truth is, your suggestion that Haye may have used banned substances was inexcusable. It's bad form.

In three threads on the same subject, you have failed to post a single well reasoned point.

[bored]

If you PM Buncey your adress I'm sure he can pass the message on to Haye that you think he takes steroids and that he's shit and if you like he could probably arrange that you meet up with him to confront him on the issue.

[Sundance]

Yeah, whatever. Truth is, your suggestion that Haye may have used banned substances was inexcusable. It's bad form.

In three threads on the same subject, you have failed to post a single well reasoned point.

I thought you off to bed and retiring from the frey? I was partly joking about the roids, but who knows. If superfly Haye saw the size of WK last night against Tiger Tony he might be on a 'course'.:yep

[Sundance]

If you PM Buncey your adress I'm sure he can pass the message on to Haye that you think he takes steroids and that he's shit and if you like he could probably arrange that you meet up with him to confront him on the issue.


Hey, I didn't say he was shit and I didn't say he took roids, I'm merely trying to get to why Haye needs nine months away and why he won't fight Matt Sketon. I'm not hearing valid reasons from his fans, that's the truth. And beleive it or not my hands are as fast as Hayes, I'm humming bird fast:bbb I'm of "Skelton vintage and proportions" but give me a month in a gym with Enzo Calzage and I'd fight superfly over a three rounder. I'll then call out Wlad and trash talk in the Haye style after I get the decision.:yep

[dan-b]

Like a child, Sundance has had to become more outrageous in a desperate bid for attention. Lets keep him around as a sad reminder at how pathetic a human being can become.

[achillesthegreat]

Monte Barret sounds like a good bet.

[PaddyD1983]

Toney v Haye...

If this were ever to happen (which I dont think it would!), and Toney came in in good shape (which I dont think he would!) then I like this match up!

Make for a cracking fight, but I think Toney would be all wrong for Haye. Haye likes to fight at mid-long range but he'd have to get close to Toney and I wouldnt see him getting through that defence. Would Toney be able to land one big shot? If he did its 'lights-out' but I think it would be a points victory for Haye. Good fight if it could be made... but doubt it would be!