Former WBO World HW Champ and Olympic gold medalist loses to a complete bum in MMA

[boxingcar]

Double standards a great....
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I'm here to post the second half of that standard.

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Boxing fan's excuse: "he was too old , it was under mma rules , he cheated "

or

MMA fan's excuse: "he was too fat , he just was a grappler , not a striker , it was under boxing rules"

You can pick your camp , but don't tell only one side of the story.

[Zakman]

Whatever. UFC still can't hold a candle to boxing.

[maximumsg]

let them fight under boxing rules and see what happens

[Boinko]

As a fan of both sports, I actually could care less about how MMA guys will do in boxing or how boxing guys will do in MMA. It's irrelevant to my enjoyment of either sport.

[Borincano]

To the author of this thread, Ray Mercer? He was done years ago. Former WBO champ and former gold olypian, come on. You just pumped him up and then threw him under a bus. He is not a good example. Boxers will always have balls to get in with anybody. Kimbo is a circus act. Throw him in with Valuev. An elite boxer will never risk his health to fight a MMA fighter due to all the money that can be made in boxing. Let MMA owners throw millions out at an elite fighter and maybe just maybe someone will bite, but I doubt it.

[TheChamp1000]

As a fan of both sports, I actually could care less about how MMA guys will do in boxing or how boxing guys will do in MMA. It's irrelevant to my enjoyment of either sport.

Heresy!! To both sides.

I love hearing the stories and debates rage when old boxers or mma fighters get caned when they move discipline, guaranteed to get posters in a ferver. MMA is better because of this guy, but wait Boxing is better because of this. Priceless stuff :bbb

[LennoxGOAT]

Kimbo compared to Mercer

is not equivalent to

Ricco compared to Can

If Mercer would lose to one the biggest shit MMA fighters in a house show, then we can talk.

[fitzgeraldz]

You idiot ... Ray Mercer is in his mid 40's ... who gives a fuck ... that not a fighter in his prime nor is a fighter 5 years past his prime ... its an old journeyman.

That doesn't count ... lets see how Kimbo would do against a guy like ... Oliver McCall

[smoochp]

You idiot ... Ray Mercer is in his mid 40's ... who gives a fuck ... that not a fighter in his prime nor is a fighter 5 years past his prime ... its an old journeyman.

That doesn't count ... lets see how Kimbo would do against a guy like ... Oliver McCall
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[CJLightweight]

You idiot ... Ray Mercer is in his mid 40's ... who gives a fuck ... that not a fighter in his prime nor is a fighter 5 years past his prime ... its an old journeyman.

That doesn't count ... lets see how Kimbo would do against a guy like ... Oliver McCall


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[boxingcar]

You idiot ... Ray Mercer is in his mid 40's ... who gives a fuck ... that not a fighter in his prime nor is a fighter 5 years past his prime ... its an old journeyman.

That doesn't count ... lets see how Kimbo would do against a guy like ... Oliver McCall

Because Ricco Rodriguez is in his prime you dumb fuck ? He's an even worse shape at his age than Mercer is. And he's a mother fucking grappler not a striker you cunt. You're as much of a hypocrite as the guy who originally started the ricco thread.

[sues2nd]

Did I just jump in a Delorean with Doc Brown and end up in 2007?

Why the fuck are we talking about Kimbo vs "The Artist Formerly Known As Ray Mercer"?

[boxingcar]

:good :good :yep

OBVIOUSLY , the best you can do is post emoticons , afterall , you're the cunt who posted:
is this for real??

as in ricco rodriguez? the guy that beat couture?

in that other thread...

[blood_lust]

Boxing fan's excuse: "he was too old , it was under mma rules , he cheated "

Mercer was 46!! That is too old. No double standard here.

You can't even compare the two...Mercer should of retired 10 years ago!

[boxingcar]

Did I just jump in a Delorean with Doc Brown and end up in 2007?

Why the fuck are we talking about Kimbo vs "The Artist Formerly Known As Ray Mercer"?

The question is why the fuck is there always a cunt to post something negative about mma ? ...

[sues2nd]

The question is why the fuck is there always a cunt to post something negative about mma ? ...

I actually like MMA...

But my question stands...

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"GREAT SCOTT WAS THAT RAY MERCER?!?!?!?"

[jimmie]

Because Ricco Rodriguez is in his prime you dumb fuck ? He's an even worse shape at his age than Mercer is. And he's a mother fucking grappler not a striker you cunt. You're as much of a hypocrite as the guy who originally started the ricco thread.

Dont forget the guys been battling a drug addiction.

[boxingcar]

Mercer was 46!! That is too old. No double standard here.

You can't even compare the two...Mercer should of retired 10 years ago!
That's not what you cunts used to say prior to that fight. Before it happened , Mercer was supposed to KO that bum remember ? But when it didn't happened...of course , mercer was old and done.

OF COURSE HE IS...But same goes to Ricco. Not the same age but the guy has problems winning fights in his own fucking sport. He's a has been and a fat fuck who's promissing career was ruined several years ago. And he's just a mother fucking grappler...

But NOOOOOO that doesn't stop you people to constanly find a way to shit on anything related to mma. THANK GOD that a fucking mere grappler & has been actually lost in a different sport...it would've been quite pathetic otherwise

[sues2nd]

That's not what you cunts used to say prior to that fight. Before it happened , Mercer was supposed to KO that bum remember ? But when it didn't happened...of course , mercer was old and done.

OF COURSE HE IS...But same goes to Ricco. Not the same age but the guy has problems winning fights in his own fucking sport. He's a has been and a fat fuck who's promissing career was ruined several years ago. And he's just a mother fucking grappler...

But NOOOOOO that doesn't stop you people to constanly find a way to shit on anything related to mma. THANK GOD that a fucking mere grappler & has been actually lost in a different sport...it would've been quite pathetic otherwise

You are one really angry little man. Ya know that...

:lol:

[boxingcar]

Dont forget the guys been battling a drug addiction.
yes that too ruined his career.

[boxingcar]

You are one really angry little man. Ya know that...

:lol:

I'm not little. and I'm not angry. just voicing a different opinion.

[blood_lust]

That's not what you cunts used to say prior to that fight. Before it happened , Mercer was supposed to KO that bum remember ? But when it didn't happened...of course , mercer was old and done.

OF COURSE HE IS...But same goes to Ricco. Not the same age but the guy has problems winning fights in his own fucking sport. He's a has been and a fat fuck who's promissing career was ruined several years ago. And he's just a mother fucking grappler...

But NOOOOOO that doesn't stop you people to constanly find a way to shit on anything related to mma. THANK GOD that a fucking mere grappler actually & has been lost in a different sport...it would've been quite pathetic otherwise
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Any rational person would expect Mercer to lose at 46 years old. It's basic logic...Just like Kimbo beating Abbot at 46 years old. It doesn't mean shet. Mercer wasn't even a shell of his former self at the point, more like the decaying remains of a shell...

The same doesn't go for Ricco...He lost to a complete bum, a guy with one professional fight (which he lost)...More importantly Ricco is only 30 years old...

There's no comparison, so your argument holds no weight.

[jimmie]

yes that too ruined his career.

Noboddy wants to look at the fact that he was 270 ibs in this bout a weight that wouldnt even allow him to compete for the belt he once won many years ago. Riccos striking has always sucked he was just a tremendous grappler and still is to a extent he can toy with journeymen like his last bout but drugs and lack of training have hurt his career he was damn good at once. Who can say they beat Couture,Nogueria(we know what happened)and Arlovski ?

[sues2nd]

I'm not little. and I'm not angry. just voicing a different opinion.

No....you are angry (little...who really knows...its just angry little man sounds funnier). Ya got no sense of humor either.

To even mention Kimbo vs "The Artist Formally Known As Ray Mercer" is more laughable than the people who expected THIS Ray Mercer to show up.

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The man was 46....I dont give a flying fuck what people said before the fight.

[Boinko]

Any rational person would expect Mercer to lose at 46 years old. It's basic logic...Just like Kimbo beating Abbot at 46 years old. It doesn't mean shet. Mercer wasn't even a shell of his former self at the point, more like the decaying remains of a shell...
In hindsight yes, but I seem to recall a fair amount of people on this very board were saying Mercer was going to beat Kimbo.

The same doesn't go for Ricco...He lost to a complete bum, a guy with one professional fight (which he lost)...More importantly Ricco is only 30 years old...

There's no comparison, so your argument holds no weight.
I think the very point the OP was trying to make is that neither of these fights mean shit in regards to the stupid debate about boxing vs MMA.

[boxingcar]

Any rational person would expect Mercer to lose at 46 years old. It's basic logic...Just like Kimbo beating Abbot at 46 years old. It doesn't mean shet. Mercer wasn't even a shell of his former self at the point, more like the decaying remains of a shell...

The same doesn't go for Ricco...He lost to a complete bum, a guy with one professional fight (which he lost)...More importantly Ricco is only 30 years old...

There's no comparison, so your argument holds no weight.
You fucking idiot...you god damn mother fucking idiot....Don't you fucking get it ?

Ricco is a grappler...do you know what that is ?... This fact alone , is enough to discredit all your hypocrisy. Ricco is the definition of a has been in his own sport. and again...A GRAPPLER !!!!! god damn it....

and for the record...Kimbo is a nobody in mma. he's not even ranked. The only reason why he's popular is becaus of his internet fights.

[sues2nd]

In hindsight yes, but I seem to recall a fair amount of people on this very board were saying Mercer was going to beat Kimbo.


I think the very point the OP was trying to make is that neither of these fights mean shit in regards to the stupid debate about boxing vs MMA.

There was also a fair amount of people on this site picking TONY THE FREAKING TIGER THOMPSON OVER WLAD TONIGHT!!!! The guy is named after a cereal box mascott...how was he ever going to be Dr Steelhammer??? He is FUCKING CARTOON CHARACTER!!!!

Lets not confuse the friendly confines of Eastside Boxing as to what reality has chosen to be the more likely outcome.

[sues2nd]

You fucking idiot...you god damn mother fucking idiot....Don't you fucking get it ?

Ricco is a grappler...do you know what that is ?... This fact alone , is enough to discredit all your hypocrisy. Ricco is the definition of a has been in his own sport. and again...A GRAPPLER !!!!! god damn it....

and for the record...Kimbo is a nobody in mma. he's not even ranked. The only reason why he's popular is becaus of his internet fights.

And you said your not angry....:lol:

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[boxingcar]

I think the very point the OP was trying to make is that neither of these fights mean shit in regards to the stupid debate about boxing vs MMA.

Oh but they perfectly understood my point. ButThey'd rather find some meaning and some kind of statement about "that loss" ...it's a victory for boxing i guess...a has been grappler losing under boxing rules against a nobody...

But when it's mercer , losing to a nobody..then of course it doesn't count. It's irrelevant. Neither fights mean shit...

[Executioner]

You fucking idiot...you god damn mother fucking idiot....Don't you fucking get it ?

Ricco is a grappler...do you know what that is ?... This fact alone , is enough to discredit all your hypocrisy. Ricco is the definition of a has been in his own sport. and again...A GRAPPLER !!!!! god damn it....

and for the record...Kimbo is a nobody in mma. he's not even ranked. The only reason why he's popular is becaus of his internet fights.


shit..go to sleep boy, you're gonna break your keyboard typing too hard with all that anger.

[Boinko]

There was also a fair amount of people on this site picking TONY THE FREAKING TIGER THOMPSON OVER WLAD TONIGHT!!!! The guy is named after a cereal cartoon...how was he ever going to be Dr Steelhammer??? He is FUCKING CARTOON CHARACTER!!!!

Lets not confuse the friendly confines of Eastside Boxing as to what reality has chosen to be the more likely outcome.

"friendly" confines?:lol:

But, yes I agree. I was merely answering the poster who said that any rational person realized Mercer had no chance.
So, I shall let him and you decide whether those who picked Mercer were rational or not.

[boxingcar]

shit..go to sleep boy, you're gonna break your keyboard typing too hard with all that anger.

I'm not angry...i'm just vulgar. I'm typing each of my words calmly

[sues2nd]

"friendly" confines?:lol:

But, yes I agree. I was merely answering the poster who said that any rational person realized Mercer had no chance.
So, I shall let him and you decide whether those who picked Mercer were rational or not.

Sarcasm is a wonderful tool sometimes...aint it???

:lol:

[sues2nd]

I'm not angry...i'm just vulgar. I'm typing each of my words calmly

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[liljp361]

Double standards a great....

Boxing fan's excuse: "he was too old , it was under mma rules , he cheated "

or

MMA fan's excuse: "he was too fat , he just was a grappler , not a striker , it was under boxing rules"

You can pick your camp , but don't tell only one side of the story.

Are you kidding with the boxing fans excuse??... you cant honestly say Mercer is young can you lol???... HES PRETTY OLD!!... and even still at that age I would have chosen him over Kimbo if it was under boxing rules lol...
Are you trying to defend mma or something? because I enjoy mma too but mma and boxing are totally different... im not saying one is better than the other... but mma differes quite a bit in the rules...honestly

[blood_lust]

You fucking idiot...you god damn mother fucking idiot....Don't you fucking get it ?

Ricco is a grappler...do you know what that is ?... This fact alone , is enough to discredit all your hypocrisy. Ricco is the definition of a has been in his own sport. and again...A GRAPPLER !!!!! god damn it....

and for the record...Kimbo is a nobody in mma. he's not even ranked. The only reason why he's popular is becaus of his internet fights.

Of course he's a grappler at heart, however he's been a professional fighter for nearly 10 years and I guarantee he was training in boxing during those 10 years as you have to if you want to compete in MMA....That fact alone discredits the grappler issue...

But do you honestly believe a guy who is 0-1 has more boxing experience (gym or real) that pro MMA fighter like Ricco Rodriguez??? If you do, then you don't know shit about either boxing or MMA.

Not to mention that he was good enough of a striker in MMA to stop Couture, Arlovski, and Monson (all top fighters), but not good enough to beat an 0-1 prizefigher with very little experience...

THAT is the point, not the whole boxing is better or MMA is better crap...but reality is that MMA strikers like Liddell, Silva, Shogun, Griffin, etc...are nowhere near the level of a top-20 boxer, let alone top-10 in each respective weight classes in term of striking that is...
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[boxingcar]

Are you kidding with the boxing fans excuse??... you cant honestly say Mercer is young can you lol???... HES PRETTY OLD!!... and even still at that age I would have chosen him over Kimbo if it was under boxing rules lol...
Are you trying to defend mma or something? because I enjoy mma too but mma and boxing are totally different... im not saying one is better than the other... but mma differes quite a bit in the rules...honestly

Well , of course Mercer is old you twat. And i don't give a fuck what the guy would've done to Kimbo under boxing rules. that's not the mother fucking point is it ?

MMA and boxing are totally different huh ? no shit sherlock ! looks like you have been paying attention!

[blood_lust]

But, yes I agree. I was merely answering the poster who said that any rational person realized Mercer had no chance.
So, I shall let him and you decide whether those who picked Mercer were rational or not.

Those that picked Mercer were drinking the kool aid...Kimbo is hype. He got owned against that Gannon cat way back when and was getting owned by Thompson (and the ref should have stopped in the second when he was getting pounded on), too, but got that BS stoppage/save by the ref...

Mercer was done...beyond done actually

[blood_lust]

Well , of course Mercer is old you twat. And i don't give a fuck what the guy would've done to Kimbo under boxing rules. that's not the mother fucking point is it ?

Your point was trying to validate MMA in some way by bringing up the Kimbo - Mercer fight to compare to the thread about Ricco Rodriguez losing to a complete bum, but the two don't mix...

Now if you had a prime boxer (who was a former champ like RR) fight an 0-1 MMA fighter and lose, then you would have an argument, but you don't.

Look at Jeremy Williams, a decent HW contender, past his prime and he's 5-0 in MMA with very little training.

[Zakman]

The question is why the fuck is there always a cunt to post something negative about mma ? ...
Because this is a BOXING site. We like the SWEET SCIENCE here, not that boring roll-around-on-the floor for five minutes crap. :barf

[Beebs]

Nishijima, former Cruiserweight champ, not "too old"
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Art Jimmerson, top 15 Cruiserweight at the time of this fight against a 175lb Royce Gracie, embarassingly bad, quit out of fear.
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[boxingcar]

Of course he's a grappler at heart, however he's been a professional fighter for nearly 10 years and I guarantee he was training in boxing during those 10 years as you have to if you want to compete in MMA....That fact alone discredits the grappler issue...

But do you honestly believe a guy who is 0-1 has more boxing experience (gym or real) that pro MMA fighter like Ricco Rodriguez??? If you do, then you don't know shit about either boxing or MMA.

Not to mention that he was good enough of a striker in MMA to stop Couture, Arlovski, and Monson (all top fighters), but not good enough to beat an 0-1 prizefigher with very little experience...

THAT is the point, not the whole boxing is better or MMA is better crap...but reality is that MMA strikers like Liddell, Silva, Shogun, Griffin, etc...are nowhere near the level of a top-20 boxer, let alone top-10 in each respective weight classes in term of striking that is...
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THAT is not the point. You're a hypocrite. That's the real point.

Of course he's a grappler at heart, however he's been a professional fighter for nearly 10 years and I guarantee he was training in boxing during those 10 years as you have to if you want to compete in MMA....That fact alone discredits the grappler issue...
It doesn't....He was concidered primerly as a grappler in his own sport. Not a fucking multi-dimensional fighter of the likes of Yamamoto , St Pierre , Penn , Anderson etc....

Ricco's career in his own fucking sport was over years ago. He had weight problems , drug addiction problems...You're a hypocrite that's what you are. You'll find any excuses to take a big dump on this sport. You'll go even as low as to mention a boxing fight in which a fat ass "has been" grappler lost (against a nobody...)...

But do you honestly believe a guy who is 0-1 has more boxing experience (gym or real) that pro MMA fighter like Ricco Rodriguez??? If you do, then you don't know shit about either boxing or MMA
Yes. There's fighters who've been training strking for less than a year (in mma) who are already way superior then ricco could ever dream of in the striking department. You have no argument. Just your hate for the sport. Kimbo was no mma fighter...no boxer...no grapller.. and in a matter of weeks , he learned a few basics...and the rest was history...Mercer was finished...easy.

But that's not the point...The real point is that you're a hypocrite. and that both fights are irrelevant. yet , you boxing fans always find an opportunity to shit on this sport.

Not to mention that he was good enough of a striker in MMA to stop Couture, Arlovski, and Monson (all top fighters), but not good enough to beat an 0-1 prizefigher with very little experience...
Your argument fails here too...I could say the very same shit about Mercer almost beating Lennox , beating tommy morrisson... "but not good enough to beat a 0-0 bum from the internet with very little experience". Cause yeah...Mercer was kimbo's first mma fight too.

What you don't fucking understand is that both fights don't mean shit.

Worst of all...The names you have mentioned..Monson (pure grappler)...Arlovski (sambo artist)... have you even seen the fcking fight or are you just reading his fighting resume ? in mma TKO isn't always the same as a TKO in boxing...there's TKOs on the ground too...fucking hell , why bother ?


but reality is that MMA strikers like Liddell, Silva, Shogun, Griffin, etc...are nowhere near the level of a top-20 boxer, let alone top-10 in each respective weight classes in term of striking that is...
A do i give a shit ?...

"but in reality is that boxers like Wlad Klitshcko , Brewster , Thompson , Sultan , Povetkin etc...are nowhere near the level of a top 100 Abu Dhabi competitor"...

do we give a shit ?....You're stating the obvious.

[the_what]

Who would win? Yoel Judah vs Roger Mayweather if the fight took place in the 80s. Kickboxing rules? Boxing rules?

[boxingcar]

Because this is a BOXING site. We like the SWEET SCIENCE here, not that boring roll-around-on-the floor for five minutes crap. :barf

so then you admit that you feel threatened by it ?...Or do you just hate it to the point where you can't fucking help talking shit about it even in boxing forums ?...don't you guys even have the balls to post your nonsense in the mma section of the forums ?...since you're talking about it , might as well share your negative opinions in the mma forum no ?...But apparently not.

[blood_lust]

Nishijima, former Cruiserweight champ, not "too old"

We are referring to "real" world champions, not minor belt holders... More importantly, Melvin Manhoef isn't an 0-1 MMA bum, he's an elite World Champion Kickboxer with a record of 20-4-1 in MMA when he fought Nishijiima...

As for Skelton...again losing a straight up kickboxing match is different than an MMA fight, as kickboxers are strikers, much like boxers...Additionally, Skelton was not a top-20 Boxer in 2001 when the MMA and kickboxing matches took place...

He hadn't even gone into pro boxing yet, so this holds no weight either.

On to Nishijiima, he wasn't a major title holder, was retired from pro boxing for 3 years (making him far from prime and he lost his last boxing match to a nobody by TKO2) when he stepped in the cage...Additionally he fought legit MMA fighters, not 0-1 fighters...

So this isn't the same as a former UFC HW Champ like RR losing to a boxer that was 0-1.

[boxingcar]

Your point was trying to validate MMA in some way by bringing up the Kimbo - Mercer fight to compare to the thread about Ricco Rodriguez losing to a complete bum, but the two don't mix...

Now if you had a prime boxer (who was a former champ like RR) fight an 0-1 MMA fighter and lose, then you would have an argument, but you don't.

Look at Jeremy Williams, a decent HW contender, past his prime and he's 5-0 in MMA with very little training.

Jeremy Williams already had a judo background for one , even when he was still active as a boxer., that's one of the worst example you could think of....

(not to mention he was training his ass off). He's 5-0 against nobodies. You have no argument. Kimbo has victories against has beens and nobodies too...

Your point was trying to validate MMA in some way by bringing up the Kimbo - Mercer fight to compare to the thread about Ricco Rodriguez losing to a complete bum, but the two don't mix...

They do. Mercer , like ricco , lost to a complete bum. Ricco's striking is shit even compared to Kimbo...his physical conditioning is worst than mercer's even at his age. The ricco who used to be a serious threat in mma is gone. Been gone years ago...hell even if he was in his prime , it wouldn't change shit...cause he's a grappler...He used to be a brilliant grappler...nothing more...but those days are over.

[blood_lust]

THAT is not the point. You're a hypocrite. That's the real point.
Nice rebuttal
It doesn't....He was concidered primerly as a grappler in his own sport. Not a fucking multi-dimensional fighter of the likes of Yamamoto , St Pierre , Penn , Anderson etc....

Ricco's career in his own fucking sport was over years ago. He had weight problems , drug addiction problems...You're a hypocrite that's what you are. You'll find any excuses to take a big dump on this sport. You'll go even as low as to mention a boxing fight in which a fat ass "has been" grappler lost (against a nobody...)...
There's no excuse, just reality. Something you fail to grasp. I'm not taking a dump on MMA, far from it, just on you. As your logic makes no sense. You are just an angry poster. It's quite the opposite, most MMA fans consider MMA fighters superior to boxers.

Yes. There's fighters who've been training strking for less than a year (in mma) who are already way superior then ricco could ever dream of in the striking department. You have no argument. Just your hate for the sport. Kimbo was no mma fighter...no boxer...no grapller.. and in a matter of weeks , he learned a few basics...and the rest was history...Mercer was finished...easy.

But that's not the point...The real point is that you're a hypocrite. and that both fights are irrelevant. yet , you boxing fans always find an opportunity to shit on this sport.
No the point is that Mercer was freaking 46 years old and shouldn't have been allowed to fight in the first place. I don't hate MMA either, I follow it consistently, most likely know more about then you do too. I like boxing more and appreciate the sweet science more.

Your argument fails here too...I could say the very same shit about Mercer almost beating Lennox , beating tommy morrisson... "but not good enough to beat a 0-0 bum from the internet with very little experience". Cause yeah...Mercer was kimbo's first mma fight too.

What you don't fucking understand is that both fights don't mean shit.

Worst of all...The names you have mentioned..Monson (pure grappler)...Arlovski (sambo artist)... have you even seen the fcking fight or are you just reading his fighting resume ? in mma TKO isn't always the same as a TKO in boxing...there's TKOs on the ground too...fucking hell , why bother ?
What does Mercer fighting Lewis or Morrison have to with anything. He was a legit boxer at one time, when he was in his prime, like he when he fought those guys, but not at 46.

Arlovski is known for his striking, until Sylvia knocked his ass out. Hello retard, I know people get KO'd on the ground, hence ground and pound. That's still a form of striking, obviously it's not boxing, but striking none the less.

ALL MMA fighters train in striking and throws punches in fights, even oldies like Gracie, Shamrock, Frye (I'll go way back to Keith Hackney, Joe Son, etc.. too), it's a requirement, wouldn't you agree?

Wouldn't you agree that a professional MMA fighter 10 or more fights has more striking experience than an 0-1 boxer?

do i give a shit ?...

"but in reality is that boxers like Wlad Klitshcko , Brewster , Thompson , Sultan , Povetkin etc...are nowhere near the level of a top 100 Abu Dhabi competitor"...

do we give a shit ?....You're stating the obvious.

Obviously you do...You are the one posted the thread and is freaking out over it. You are the douche and the hypocrite. Smells like fish.

[Beebs]

So this isn't the same as a former UFC HW Champ like RR losing to a boxer that was 0-1.

First off all watch the fight, Ricco should have won 39-37, and it was a split decision.

Ricco with his huge coke addiction, 100 extra pounds, and terrible fight results as of late, is no different than Mercer.

Plus, boxers can do everything in MMA that they can do in Boxing, MMA fighters can't do 90% of what they do in MMA in a boxing match.

[blood_lust]

They do. Mercer , like ricco , lost to a complete bum. Ricco's striking is shit even compared to Kimbo...his physical conditioning is worst than mercer's even at his age. The ricco who used to be a serious threat in mma is gone. Been gone years ago...hell even if he was in his prime , it wouldn't change shit...cause he's a grappler...He used to be a brilliant grappler...nothing more...but those days are over.

Mercer was 46. Age has everything to do with it. Kimbo may be a bum, but he's still a big ass dude with power, 15 years younger than Mercer and has been in a bunch of street fights, so it's not like he was an 0-1 boxer with no experience... PLUS

El Guapo (Bas Rutten in case you didn't know) trains him too

[MrSmall]

Blah blah, he's 105 years old.

[boxingcar]

Nice rebuttal
Thanks , at least you're admiting it. I appreciate your honesty on that one.
We'll continue this conversation tomorrow..gotta go for now.

[blood_lust]

First off all watch the fight, Ricco should have won 39-37, and it was a split decision.

Ricco with his huge coke addiction, 100 extra pounds, and terrible fight results as of late, is no different than Mercer.

Plus, boxers can do everything in MMA that they can do in Boxing, MMA fighters can't do 90% of what they do in MMA in a boxing match.

Obviously you are an MMA fan from the Robbie Lawler avatar (shame that his last fight was stopped on that cut as it was a good fight)....but it's not the same as Mercer being a 46 year old...

Sweet Pea was a coke head for years and he was still great...And doesn't Coke make you lose weight instead of gaining weight???

So if he weighed 270, you are saying Ricco's normal fighting weight should be 170, him being 100 pounds overweight and all...

[blood_lust]

Thanks , at least you're admiting it. I appreciate your honesty on that one.
We'll continue this conversation tomorrow..gotta go for now.

Not to quick with the sarcasm ehh....but it was entertaining for the evening..

Off topic I can't wait to be in Vegas for Cotto-Margarito fight!!!

[Beebs]

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[boxingcar]

Obviously you do...You are the one posted the thread and is freaking out over it. You are the douche and the hypocrite. Smells like fish.
that's too easy asshole... you perfectly know what i was reffering to when i said "do i give a shit"...which is why i made the "abu dahib" comparison to show you how fucking ridiculous that remark of yours was.

Don't worry , we'll continue tomorrow..

[blood_lust]

Based on that pic I will say its sad to see him like that...without a doubt, but losing to an 0-1 boxer...damn times are tough for "Suave"

[boxingcar]

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a shame....

[Beebs]

Obviously you are an MMA fan from the Robbie Lawler avatar (shame that his last fight was stopped on that cut as it was a good fight)....but it's not the same as Mercer being a 46 year old...

Sweet Pea was a coke head for years and he was still great...And doesn't Coke make you lose weight instead of gaining weight???

So if he weighed 270, you are saying Ricco's normal fighting weight should be 170, him being 100 pounds overweight and all...
Coke can do both, some people drink alot with it and eat alot when they crash, some don't. The 100 pounds refers to the fact that he was very recently closer to 400 lbs than 300.

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Plus, you can go your whole MMA career and never be an even average boxer. Its pretty easy to get away with, especially when you have a solid wrestling background which Ricco does. Hes doing these fights to pay rent and get back into shape for MMA. Some MMA fighters are simply atrociously bad boxers, this is a result of the fact that you just don't get much reward for being a great boxer in MMA, so why bother?

Also, he KO'd his first guy.

[TheH1tMan]

Brian Nielsen got a lot of criticism for fighting Mercer about 10 years ago. If Mercer was not worthy in boxing some 10 years ago, then why does anyone think he could beat anyone in 2008?

[Boinko]

Because this is a BOXING site. We like the SWEET SCIENCE here, not that boring roll-around-on-the floor for five minutes crap. :barf

Actually, there's a fair amount of people on this site that like both sports. You clearly don't, but don't try and claim that you speak for everyone.