who is the beat australian fighter right now?

[dawg04]

you guys got some good australians fighters evedough im not from there i know there good names like bika,mundine,briggs,soliman,green

i think bika is the best one in those names and would beat mundine

[kflex101]

Based on achievements against top fighters, I think it has to be Rocky Katsidis.

Consider how well he did against Joel Casamayor, who IMO is the second best lightweight in the world, nexk and neck all the way anyones game to the end when the veteran pulled out the win.

Now, when Mundine fought the second best supermiddle in the world (Mikkel Kessler) he was soundly beaten, in a fight that wasn't really competitive.

Everyone else is quite a way behind at this stage, Sakio did well on the contender but is likely to do well against a top 5 fighter.
Soliman, though a legend of a guy is getting past it, and Dib is completely unproven.

[Sox]

Oh u poor fool. Why do u even post on a boxing forum when u obviously have no idea about boxing?
Why? Mundine was soundly beaten.

My picks are Geale and Katsidis as the current best.

[Hmmm]

Someone's been watching a little too much contender :roll:

[dwilson]

I like the look of Geale. I expected Ajetovic to give him some problems in the recent fight but Geale cruised past him in a very good display. Ajetovic would give alot of the good middleweights a tough time so Geale looks a very good prospect.


Mundine is a joke.

[Sox]

Soundly beaten is wayoff the mark. 90% of the rounds Kessler won were very close. Kessler won by 3 rounds, with a number of rounds that could have gone either way.
We'll agree to disagree.

How could u pick Geale. Havent u noticed he's got the opportunity of a lifetime to now challenge Mundine and he hasnt? Mundine would finish him in 8 rounds.
Geale has challenged Mundine. Mundine will avoid him like he avoids any serious threat, same reason he's avoided Bika and only fought cab drivers.

[huricn]

Tauasa

[SuperUnknown]

No one is mentioning darchinyan?

[ipswich express]

My picks are Geale and Katsidis as the current best.

Beating Daniel Dawson and Geard Ajetovic surely doesn't mean you're the nations best fighter?

[Kegsy]

Like him or not Mundine is still number 1 on my list of Aussies.
In My Opinion (trying to be unbiast).

1. Anthony Mundine
2. Michael Katsidis
3. Vic Darchinyan
4. Lovemore N'dou
5. Sakio Bika
6. Ranee Ganoy
7. Kali Meehan
8. Daniel Geale
9. Sam Soliman
10. William Kickett
11. Gairy St Clair
12. Jackson Asiku
13. Victor Oganov
14. Daniel Dawson
15. Billy Dib
16. Leonardo Zappavigna
17. Jamie Pittman
18. Shannan Taylor
19. Nedal Hussein
20. Hussein Hussein
21. Robert Medley
22. Lawrence Tauasa

After this its starts getting more difficult to judge.

[stiflers mum]

Oh u poor fool. Why do u even post on a boxing forum when u obviously have no idea about boxing?
10 rounds to 2 isnt a sound enough beating for you.he wasnt lacyed but he was flogged never in the fight.but still yer mundine is probably our best at the moment.

[huricn]

Like him or not Mundine is still number 1 on my list of Aussies.
In My Opinion (trying to be unbiast).

1. Anthony Mundine
2. Michael Katsidis
3. Vic Darchinyan
4. Lovemore N'dou
5. Sakio Bika
6. Ranee Ganoy
7. Kali Meehan
8. Daniel Geale
9. Sam Soliman
10. William Kickett
11. Gairy St Clair
12. Jackson Asiku
13. Victor Oganov
14. Daniel Dawson
15. Billy Dib
16. Leonardo Zappavigna
17. Jamie Pittman
18. Shannan Taylor
19. Nedal Hussein
20. Hussein Hussein
21. Robert Medley
22. Lawrence Tauasa

After this its starts getting more difficult to judge.

not a bad list but can u plz explain to me how Tauasa is not in the top 10?

P4P he would beat most of them

[Bentchassis]

Based on achievements against top fighters, I think it has to be Rocky Katsidis.

Yeah but he lost. Using your logic I could throw in a few other current guys that have competed and lost against world class opposition, Lovemore N'dou springs to mind! Witter, Cotto, Mitchell, Malignaggi etc.

I think Kat's great but on career achievements I would not have him as our best current fighter right now.

[Bentchassis]

Beating Daniel Dawson and Geard Ajetovic surely doesn't mean you're the nations best fighter?
Agreed, fingers crossed in time but top ten only at the moment.

[Sox]

Beating Daniel Dawson and Geard Ajetovic surely doesn't mean you're the nations best fighter?
It doesn't mean he isn't either.
Who knows, it's just my opinion based on what I've seen, and I'll be the first to admit I haven't seen it all.
Geales undefeated, and has looked absolutely fantastic in his last 2 bouts against strong opposition. I think his style and ability to maintain good composure when under pressure is excellent. He also stays busy and keeps coming.
As I said though, it's just my opinion.

[Bentchassis]

Like him or not Mundine is still number 1 on my list of Aussies.
In My Opinion (trying to be unbiast).

1. Anthony Mundine
2. Michael Katsidis
3. Vic Darchinyan
4. Lovemore N'dou
5. Sakio Bika
6. Ranee Ganoy
7. Kali Meehan
8. Daniel Geale
9. Sam Soliman
10. William Kickett
11. Gairy St Clair
12. Jackson Asiku
13. Victor Oganov
14. Daniel Dawson
15. Billy Dib
16. Leonardo Zappavigna
17. Jamie Pittman
18. Shannan Taylor
19. Nedal Hussein
20. Hussein Hussein
21. Robert Medley
22. Lawrence Tauasa

After this its starts getting more difficult to judge.

Hey nice list, can't disagree with too much there!!

Maybe Pittman's a little unlucky to be behind Lenny, otherwise looks fine to me:good

[Kegsy]

not a bad list but can u plz explain to me how Tauasa is not in the top 10?

P4P he would beat most of them I agree Huricn Tauasa has a tonne of talent.
Just in recent times he has not fought the best opposition.
When he ups the opposition he will rise in the rankings no doubt.
If he KO's someone like a Dom Vea that would rise him at least half a dozen spots alone.

[Kegsy]

Hey nice list, can't disagree with too much there!!

Maybe Pittman's a little unlucky to be behind Lenny, otherwise looks fine to me:good
Yeah in hindsight thats a tough 1 with Pittman. Good call.
Its close either way.:deal

[Taylor_brogdon]

Steve Irwin in his prime KO 1 any fighter listed above.

[ipswich express]

It doesn't mean he isn't either.
Who knows, it's just my opinion based on what I've seen, and I'll be the first to admit I haven't seen it all.
Geales undefeated, and has looked absolutely fantastic in his last 2 bouts against strong opposition. I think his style and ability to maintain good composure when under pressure is excellent. He also stays busy and keeps coming.
As I said though, it's just my opinion.

Yeah fair enough, I'm not having a dig or anything. I just don't think that two decent wins makes you the best. I'd argue that Rocky's wins over Ganoy and Earl are more significant. Daniel's one to keep an eye on though.

[Kegsy]

Yeah fair enough, I'm not having a dig or anything. I just don't think that two decent wins makes you the best. I'd argue that Rocky's wins over Ganoy and Earl are more significant. Daniel's one to keep an eye on though.
I agree, Daniel is definitely 1 to keep an eye on, but at this stage he needs further development & if he can get fights with the likes of a Echols or Joval it should benefit him further.:deal

[Taylor_brogdon]

Steve Irwin!!!

[Dr Gonzo]

Steve Irwin!!!

:rofl get back to the lounge :lol:

[dufaine]

i'd say daniel geale a chance at the moment for best in oz! cool willy kickett up there too!

[kflex101]

Oh u poor fool. Why do u even post on a boxing forum when u obviously have no idea about boxing?

I've been following boxing for the past 15 years, having boxed myself for 6 of those. Though I would never call myself an expert, I think my comments were on the mark (as many seem to agree).

Do you honestly think Mundine would have been given the decision if he had been a German fighter in Germany on that performance?
Yes, the bout was entertaining in that neither fighter got hurt and both kept a similar tempo, as far as controlling the ring and landing telling shots, Kessler had this in the bag.
10 - 2 is similar to what I had,
For what it's worth, I can recall countless bad calls against foreign fighters in Australia that certainly puts us on par with Germany on biased judging.

My Aussie top five would have to include Jackson Asiku. He is still young, very talented and has only been held up by a few bad decisions he received in Aus. Still has a great future ahead of him no doubt.

[kflex101]

Yeah but he lost. Using your logic I could throw in a few other current guys that have competed and lost against world class opposition, Lovemore N'dou springs to mind! Witter, Cotto, Mitchell, Malignaggi etc.

I think Kat's great but on career achievements I would not have him as our best current fighter right now.

It is not simply whether he lost or won, rather the manner in which he did it - hence why I used the Mundine vs Kessler fight as an example.

Ndou, although tough as nails has shown countless times now that he just isn't there and likely never will be (especially given the body clock). He has lost against the best, as well as guys like Witter and Mitchell who were only champs due to the plethora of sanctioning bodies.
Sure Katsidis may end up being similar in that he consistently loses to the best, however based on Casamayors achievments in the past and the fact it was an extremely close match, I think we are yet to see the best from Rocky.

I can't recall any up and coming Aussie fighter that has done so well against such a seasoned champ in over a decade. Kevin Kelley against David Reid years back is an example, but Reid did end up being a very questionable champ.
Sam Soliman against Winky was a great effort, though there were questions about Winky's health on that one - and unfortunately Sam didn't capitilise afterwards.

[Bentchassis]

It is not simply whether he lost or won, rather the manner in which he did it - hence why I used the Mundine vs Kessler fight as an example.

Ndou, although tough as nails has shown countless times now that he just isn't there and likely never will be (especially given the body clock). He has lost against the best, as well as guys like Witter and Mitchell who were only champs due to the plethora of sanctioning bodies.
Sure Katsidis may end up being similar in that he consistently loses to the best, however based on Casamayors achievments in the past and the fact it was an extremely close match, I think we are yet to see the best from Rocky.

I can't recall any up and coming Aussie fighter that has done so well against such a seasoned champ in over a decade. Kevin Kelley against David Reid years back is an example, but Reid did end up being a very questionable champ.
Sam Soliman against Winky was a great effort, though there were questions about Winky's health on that one - and unfortunately Sam didn't capitilise afterwards.
No worries, I agree to an extent but Casa had shown elements of decline which I believe Marquez will soon prove further.

As well as Kat performed, he has to improve further to win against a Casa/Diaz level of competition. His current style is just very susceptible to high quality level opponents.

In aus ranking terms I can't dispute that he should be right up there and I also hope he finds a way to KO Diaz, elavating his aus and world standing in one.

[jimmy1991]

Like him or not Mundine is still number 1 on my list of Aussies.
In My Opinion (trying to be unbiast).

1. Anthony Mundine
2. Michael Katsidis
3. Vic Darchinyan
4. Lovemore N'dou
5. Sakio Bika
6. Ranee Ganoy
7. Kali Meehan
8. Daniel Geale
9. Sam Soliman
10. William Kickett
11. Gairy St Clair
12. Jackson Asiku
13. Victor Oganov
14. Daniel Dawson
15. Billy Dib
16. Leonardo Zappavigna
17. Jamie Pittman
18. Shannan Taylor
19. Nedal Hussein
20. Hussein Hussein
21. Robert Medley
22. Lawrence Tauasa

After this its starts getting more difficult to judge.

thats a good list

[ipswich express]

Personally Pittman has to be higher than Zappa, Dib and Dawson. Has fought better opposition. It's a top list though. Would melt my brain coming up with one.

[huricn]

i dont think lovemore should be that high

[ipswich express]

i dont think lovemore should be that high

Who would you have above him though? It's tough. He did well in the Malignaggi return.

[huricn]

Who would you have above him though? It's tough. He did well in the Malignaggi return.


u r right it is hard. but i just feel that lovemores skills are fading very fast

[Kegsy]

Personally Pittman has to be higher than Zappa, Dib and Dawson. Has fought better opposition. It's a top list though. Would melt my brain coming up with one.
Yeah fair enough.
Pittman is coming off a loss & with a couple wins, he should rise back up above those you stated.:deal

[toppity]

u r right it is hard. but i just feel that lovemores skills are fading very fast

the Ben Rabah fight was a war. It may have drained him. Sometimes those sorts of fights have a longterm effect on ageing fighters.

[ashley]

I dont think we have a clear best fighter.....If rocky wins his next fight then he gets it....if Vic wins his next fight then maybe its him.....Mundine wont step up so I dont think its him. :huh

I think in a few months we may have a better answer to this question.

[Super_Fly_Sam]

Soundly beaten is wayoff the mark. 90% of the rounds Kessler won were very close. Kessler won by 3 rounds, with a number of rounds that could have gone either way.

If Mundine was German and it was in Germany, he would have got the decision.

How could u pick Geale. Havent u noticed he's got the opportunity of a lifetime to now challenge Mundine and he hasnt? Mundine would finish him in 8 rounds.

Geale's team have put it out there that they'd like the fight with Mundine...... there's an article in the boxing newspaper thing World Of Boxing.

[straight left]

I dont think we have a clear best fighter.....If rocky wins his next fight then he gets it....if Vic wins his next fight then maybe its him.....Mundine wont step up so I dont think its him. :huh

I think in a few months we may have a better answer to this question.

I think Michael Katsidis & Vic Darchinyan are easily our best fighters. They stepped up a long time ago and although both have losses on their records its only because they are participating in REAL contests !!!!
Our fighters excluding Jamie Pittman, Lovemore Ndou & Hussein Hussein need to forget about having a clean padded record and start to involve themselves in contests where they can prove themselves against the world's best.
Dont get me wrong , if this topic was - WHICH AUSTRALIAN FIGHTER HAS THE BEST BUSINESS ACUMEN - hands down it would be Anthony Mundine. Who can blame him for staying in Australia, he wouldnt earn the same money overseas even if he fought Joe Calzahge, and in the event that he did win, he would be roped in and robbed by a promoter that wants to hold rights on him.

[TheBradyHawkes]

the Ben Rabah fight was a war. It may have drained him. Sometimes those sorts of fights have a longterm effect on ageing fighters.

Porky Lovitt sucks :D

[ashley]

Maybe its Vic ATM?

[TheH1tMan]

As a European following the Australian scene I would rank them like this:

1. Anthony Mundine
2. Michael Katsidis
3. Vic Darchinyan
4. Sakio Bika
5. Lovemore N'dou
6. Kali Meehan
7. Ranee Ganoy
8. Sam Soliman
9. Kali Meehan
10. Victor Oganov

:-)

[Box-on]

I'd say Vic, most of our top guys such as Mundine, N'dou, Soliman etc are in the twilight of their careers.

[flamengo]

If knowledge was dirt, most of you wouldnt be able to plant a pip.. Its a tough question, and always will be ... "who is best??"...My opinion at preseant, Mundine is our best due to his carreer experiences and the fact he will be able to box for atleast 3 more years without fading too much. All jinds of suggestions can be made regarding him... Katsidis, is a tough competitor, bit I suggest his life in the ring is limited to another couple of years due to the punishment he recieves.... No doubt, HE IS a tough kid and exciting to watch, but p4p...?? he is off the mark... Vic Darchinyan will become, in my mind, a champ at potentially 4 divisions, if he is willing to continue moving up the divisions... He is our 'best ' foriegn exponenet of the noble art without a doubt.. As for Geale.... dont ever suggest The Man is avoiding him, as there will be a very short fight if Mundine fights Geale... Under 7 rounds, as Mundine will be far superior in all facets... no disrespect to Geale, but common sense must prevail when comparing these 2 men. The only man I suggest Mundine is avoiding is Calzaghe... I wish he would ramain at super middle and do the right thing for some credibility... as its tiresome seeing this man be slagged off by knuckle heads, when, he has more ability than 75% of fight fans are willing to accept. As for Ndou, he is past it... Bika?? well my interest has been limited for a while... i need to see something special from him soon... Keep punching.

[flamengo]

Straight Left.... you are on the ball for sure, although Katsidis is potentially our most exciting fighter, im not willing to say he is as qualified as Mundine, or Vic.... Regardless mate, your comments are worthy of appreciation... Keep `em coming.

[r_9-Ronaldo]

me pretty soon

[catch22]

Good list Kegsy. Personally I would do a swap between position 1 and position 3.

What about Emanuel "the Aussie" Augustus?

[CarltonBlues]

Darchinyan just ahead of Katsidis with Mundine a distant 3rd.

[pecks]

Darchinyan just ahead of Katsidis with Mundine a distant 3rd.Yeah, I'd have Darchinyan and Kat ahead of mundine now also, though he wouldn't be a distant 3rd for mine.

I did have mundine at #1 before, but Vic has knocked out ranked guys in world title fights, where Mundine has not.
Vic has been knocked out for the count once, though Mundine has also been knocked out cold by Ottke. he's also been dropped against 2 very average boxers, and 1 boxer that can be described as 'decent' at best.

Kat still has his prime to look forward to, and has looked better against globally recognised opposition Than mundine has. I'd have him 2nd ahead of Mundine, while the rest of our boxers are some way down the track.

[Waney30]

Darchinyan just ahead of Katsidis with Mundine a distant 3rd.

I agree

[CarltonBlues]

Yeah, I'd have Darchinyan and Kat ahead of mundine now also, though he wouldn't be a distant 3rd for mine.

I did have mundine at #1 before, but Vic has knocked out ranked guys in world title fights, where Mundine has not.
Vic has been knocked out for the count once, though Mundine has also been knocked out cold by Ottke. he's also been dropped against 2 very average boxers, and 1 boxer that can be described as 'decent' at best.

Kat still has his prime to look forward to, and has looked better against globally recognised opposition Than mundine has. I'd have him 2nd ahead of Mundine, while the rest of our boxers are some way down the track.

I think Mundine has more ability than both but since the Nievas fight where he tore his right bicep he hasn't been able to hurt opponents he previously would have. Add to that his eye problem and the fact he's aging now I think we've seen the best of him.

If Rocky takes out Juan Diaz then he would leap into number 1 spot.