Who will win - Kirilov V Darchinyan ?

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Is this fight on Main Event or Sky ???

Go THE RAGING BULL ! :bbb

[raff]

im pretty sure its main event, i hope vic is well prepared & has plenty of head movement, it will be an entertaining fight,
GO RAGING BULL!!!

[toppity]

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should be a great fight.:bbb

[Kegsy]

Seen the commercial on Main Event too.
I will be tuning in, go Vic.

[huricn]

Kirilov.......

i have never been a big Vic

[Marcus]

iv only seen a small clip of Kirilov, i think vic can take him as long as it a brawl type fight.

[WhataRock]

Kirilov is pretty average in most fields but is hard worker and hasnt got a bad chin. I reckon he has slowed down a bit and seems to slug it out a bit more compared to what I had seen of him earlier. Which certainly suits Vic more, he just has to not let the fight get scrappy and dictate with his power.

This is the most winnable title fight at superfly for Vic. I think he can win and if he doesnt then I dont see him bagging another title at this weight.

Put it this way Kirilov drew with his last opponant, which I thought he won clearly but certainly not comfortably . That same opponant was iced in 10 rounds by the WBO champ Montiel, who I think is the best at superfly but I wouldnt argue with anyone who thought Mijaries was and infact I would be the minority that think Montiel is better. No way Vic touches either of them.

[PIPO23]

Kirilov is pretty average in most fields but is hard worker and hasnt got a bad chin. I reckon he has slowed down a bit and seems to slug it out a bit more compared to what I had seen of him earlier. Which certainly suits Vic more, he just has to not let the fight get scrappy and dictate with his power.

This is the most winnable title fight at superfly for Vic. I think he can win and if he doesnt then I dont see him bagging another title at this weight.

Put it this way Kirilov drew with his last opponant, which I thought he won clearly but certainly not comfortably . That same opponant was iced in 10 rounds by the WBO champ Montiel, who I think is the best at superfly but I would argue with anyone who thought Mijaries was and infact I would be the minority that think Montiel is better. No way Vic touches either of them.

Im feelin that bro. Montiel is the man at 115. this Mijares hype job has been blown out of proportion. I feel Montiel is not getting enough love. The kid is beating anyone, not just beating rather giving each and every one he fought a complete and utter beat-down. Mijares may school a Arce and what not. Montiel would hurt Arce bad, real bad same goes for navarro and all those bums Mijares schooled..Anyone this man hits clean is going down, ask gorres, castillo and Maldanado.

As for the fight. A winnable fight. Kirilov there's nothing super to say about this guy. He's average in every department. But is solid. Neither impressed with either Vic or Kirilov. Except Vic's power. Although his chin is a little glassy. I give Kirilov points or Tko late in the fight. Cuz, Vic is hittable and was boxed easily. And dropped by light hitters, Catubay, Gorres and Donaire. A tough fight for Vic. this champion will not go away with one punch. Like the rest.

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Im feelin that bro. Montiel is the man at 115. this Mijares hype job has been blown out of proportion. I feel Montiel is not getting enough love. The kid is beating anyone, not just beating rather giving each and every one he fought a complete and utter beat-down. Mijares may school a Arce and what not. Montiel would hurt Arce bad, real bad same goes for navarro and all those bums Mijares schooled..Anyone this man hits clean is going down, ask gorres, castillo and Maldanado.

As for the fight. A winnable fight. Kirilov there's nothing super to say about this guy. He's average in every department. But is solid. Neither impressed with either Vic or Kirilov. Except Vic's power. Although his chin is a little glassy. I give Kirilov points or Tko late in the fight. Cuz, Vic is hittable and was boxed easily. And dropped by light hitters, Catubay, Gorres and Donaire. A tough fight for Vic. this champion will not go away with one punch. Like the rest.

Thats pretty funny that you rate Montiel the man at 115lbs. Gorres gave him the fight of his life, and his last fight was against a fighter on the slide, I think your just not a Darchinyan fan and you would probally go for anyone he fights. I watched the Gorres fight and saw the highlights, Vic was robbed and dropped Gorres cleanly on several occasions, Montiel didnt look as convincing as Darchinyan.

I would like to see Vic take Montiel after he ices Kirilov!

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[PIPO23]

Thats pretty funny that you rate Montiel the man at 115lbs. Gorres gave him the fight of his life, and his last fight was against a fighter on the slide, I think your just not a Darchinyan fan and you would probally go for anyone he fights. I watched the Gorres fight and saw the highlights, Vic was robbed and dropped Gorres cleanly on several occasions, Montiel didnt look as convincing as Darchinyan.

I would like to see Vic take Montiel after he ices Kirilov!

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Mijares, Vic, And Arce wouldn't last the distance with Montiel.That's why they're ducking and keeping Montiel out of the picture. This unfication bout Mijares is doin is ducking the real king, Montiel.He's avoiding the king.

Montiel V Mijares. I got Montiel by KO.And I am confident, Montiel destroys Darchinyan as well.

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[WhataRock]

Thats pretty funny that you rate Montiel the man at 115lbs. Gorres gave him the fight of his life, and his last fight was against a fighter on the slide, I think your just not a Darchinyan fan and you would probally go for anyone he fights. I watched the Gorres fight and saw the highlights, Vic was robbed and dropped Gorres cleanly on several occasions, Montiel didnt look as convincing as Darchinyan.

I would like to see Vic take Montiel after he ices Kirilov!

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Fair point but different fight, different fighters, different situation.

Montiel is boxer-puncher and smack bang in middle of the boxer to puncher ratio I reckon. Meaning he isnt a specialist at either but he is very adequate at both.
Gorres fought the fight of his life, pumped up in front of his home crowd, truly the underdog. Fighters have bad nights sometimes and I think it wasnt Montiel's best, whilst being one of Gorres' finest.
Stylistically I knew Montiel would have problems but maybe not as bad as I thought, Gorres was very focused though. I reckon Fernando underrated him and let it get to his head a bit, a little like the TooSharp fight. He faced a guy who was slicker, and could outbox him, he was better at boxing than Montiel's boxer side was. Fernando adjusted, brought out his puncher more and I thought won a clear fight with heavier punching.

Vic on the otherhand is a puncher, that is what he does. He has a way he likes to win fights and he is singley focused on winning them that way. Thats why I thought he manhandled Gorres a lot better, because it took a puncher to trump the boxer, which is what Vic is a specialist at. Plus I dont think Gorres went into that fight with the same mindset, in his eyes he was probably the overwhelming favourite against what many thought was a fighter who was badly exposed and overrated.

Fernando is looking excellent of late, he has rattled off 5 wins in a row and 4 very impressive KO wins in his last 4. I think he beats just about everyone at superfly right now.

Mijaries vs Montiel would be a great fight, I am not as confident as you PIPO. Montiel is one of my fav fighters but I would say Mijaries edges him.

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Fair point but different fight, different fighters, different situation.

Montiel is boxer-puncher and smack bang in middle of the boxer to puncher ratio I reckon. Meaning he isnt a specialist at either but he is very adequate at both.
Gorres fought the fight of his life, pumped up in front of his home crowd, truly the underdog. Fighters have bad nights sometimes and I think it wasnt Montiel's best, whilst being one of Gorres' finest.
Stylistically I knew Montiel would have problems but maybe not as bad as I thought, Gorres was very focused though. I reckon Fernando underrated him and let it get to his head a bit, a little like the TooSharp fight. He faced a guy who was slicker, and could outbox him, he was better at boxing than Montiel's boxer side was. Fernando adjusted, brought out his puncher more and I thought won a clear fight with heavier punching.

Vic on the otherhand is a puncher, that is what he does. He has a way he likes to win fights and he is singley focused on winning them that way. Thats why I thought he manhandled Gorres a lot better, because it took a puncher to trump the boxer, which is what Vic is a specialist at. Plus I dont think Gorres went into that fight with the same mindset, in his eyes he was probably the overwhelming favourite against what many thought was a fighter who was badly exposed and overrated.

Fernando is looking excellent of late, he has rattled off 5 wins in a row and 4 very impressive KO wins in his last 4. I think he beats just about everyone at superfly right now.

Mijaries vs Montiel would be a great fight, I am not as confident as you PIPO. Montiel is one of my fav fighters but I would say Mijaries edges him.

I agree with what your saying, my only point is that everyone has seemed to write off Vic after 1 fight. against Donaire the cards were even with two judges and Vic is a notorious slow starter. Vic knocked himself rushing in, but in the end thats boxing.

The Bull would fight anyone, I remember his promoter saying in a interview he has had only two boxers in 40 years of promoting boxing that have never questioned him on who they fighting - Diego Corrales & Vic Darchinyan.

What will happen if Vic KO's Kirilov - remembering Kirilov has never been KO'D and he beat Jose Navarro by a similar margin to Mijares. I think the Raging Bull will storm back to prominence after this fight.

[Marcus]

I agree with what your saying, my only point is that everyone has seemed to write off Vic after 1 fight. against Donaire the cards were even with two judges and Vic is a notorious slow starter. Vic knocked himself rushing in, but in the end thats boxing.

The Bull would fight anyone, I remember his promoter saying in a interview he has had only two boxers in 40 years of promoting boxing that have never questioned him on who they fighting - Diego Corrales & Vic Darchinyan.

What will happen if Vic KO's Kirilov - remembering Kirilov has never been KO'D and he beat Jose Navarro by a similar margin to Mijares. I think the Raging Bull will storm back to prominence after this fight.

I hope you think thats a fuckin stupid comment, Donaire KOed him with a beautiful shot, give some credit to him mate.

[TommyV]

Vic Darchinyan.

[WhataRock]

I hope you think thats a fuckin stupid comment, Donaire KOed him with a beautiful shot, give some credit to him mate.

Credit where credit is due, it was a spectacular knockout and showed how good Donaire really is.

But I gotta say Vic gave him that KO on a platter in a way, it was one of the most amatuerish defensive displays your going to see from a world champ.

[PIPO23]

I agree with what your saying, my only point is that everyone has seemed to write off Vic after 1 fight. against Donaire the cards were even with two judges and Vic is a notorious slow starter. Vic knocked himself rushing in, but in the end thats boxing.

The Bull would fight anyone, I remember his promoter saying in a interview he has had only two boxers in 40 years of promoting boxing that have never questioned him on who they fighting - Diego Corrales & Vic Darchinyan.

What will happen if Vic KO's Kirilov - remembering Kirilov has never been KO'D and he beat Jose Navarro by a similar margin to Mijares. I think the Raging Bull will storm back to prominence after this fight.

Check it, there's no dangerous fighter 112 at the moment. So, really Vic had it easy. He fought alota of boxers he was stronger.Cuz for a small bloke Vic had advantages over alota of his opp, he looked bulkier. But now, I wanna see Vic beat a dangerous slugger that matches up with him, power for power. And that is Montiel. Remember, I said it here first. Like I said he would Pay for his lack of defense against Donare.IF ever Montiel Vs Vic takes place. Vic will be in alot more trouble than the Donaire fight.I think Montiel.Do not want to put much mustard on his punches. But keep Vic up and punish him round after round. Then end it Vic all messed up. Trust me..:hi:

[Marcus]

Credit where credit is due, it was a spectacular knockout and showed how good Donaire really is.

But I gotta say Vic gave him that KO on a platter in a way, it was one of the most amatuerish defensive displays your going to see from a world champ.

I have read a few things about Vic goin back to his old trainer, and thats he wants to box more and keep his hands higher, well fuck me , about time Vic!!!

I HATE LOW HANDS!!!!!!

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Check it, there's no dangerous fighter 112 at the moment. So, really Vic had it easy. He fought alota of boxers he was stronger.Cuz for a small bloke Vic had advantages over alota of his opp, he looked bulkier. But now, I wanna see Vic beat a dangerous slugger that matches up with him, power for power. And that is Montiel. Remember, I said it here first. Like I said he would Pay for his lack of defense against Donare.IF ever Montiel Vs Vic takes place. Vic will be in alot more trouble than the Donaire fight.I think Montiel.Do not want to put much mustard on his punches. But keep Vic up and punish him round after round. Then end it Vic all messed up. Trust me..:hi:

I think your living in fantasy land, Irene pacheco and Luis Maldonado were UNDEFEATED when they both met Darchinyan. Funny how it took Donaire 8 rounds to beat Maldonado especially after Maldonado's face was cut to shreds in the previous fight and how he had a suspension lifted to fight Donaire. Mijares DREW with Maldonado.

This division is HOT and I love the matchups. Every fightis going to be entertaining and it seems no one is dodging the other. Go THE RAGING BULL !!!:bbb

[Watto]

I think Vic will be bak to his best for this one..Vic all the way

[PIPO23]

I think your living in fantasy land, Irene pacheco and Luis Maldonado were UNDEFEATED when they both met Darchinyan. Funny how it took Donaire 8 rounds to beat Maldonado especially after Maldonado's face was cut to shreds in the previous fight and how he had a suspension lifted to fight Donaire. Mijares DREW with Maldonado.

This division is HOT and I love the matchups. Every fightis going to be entertaining and it seems no one is dodging the other. Go THE RAGING BULL !!!:bbb


ahahahahah truth hurts. Pacheco was old mate and that fight was fishy. PAcheco was whoopin him before the firework break ( 5minutes) revitalized Vic.Maldanado is a journeyman plain and simple. Montiel smashed him quicker than you can say hey!! ...Vic at 112 was bigger than his opp that's why he was winning. At 115-118 he is going down. That's a fact. I remember hearing he challenged Vasquez. Get real!! Vasquez I heard from a good ( Mexican) source, that Ezzi dropped him in sparrin.

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[Kegsy]

ahahahahah truth hurts. Pacheco was old mate and that fight was fishy. PAcheco was whoopin him before the firework break ( 5minutes) revitalized Vic.Maldanado is a journeyman plain and simple. Montiel smashed him quicker than you can say hey!! ...Vic at 112 was bigger than his opp that's why he was winning. At 115-118 he is going down. That's a fact. I remember hearing he challenged Vasquez. Get real!! Vasquez I heard from a good ( Mexican) source, that Ezzi dropped him in sparrin.

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Yeah that is true.
Israel did drop Vic in sparring.

No doubt all Vic's physical advantages are somewhat diminished at 115+ pounds.
Vic should get past Kirilov (hopefully) but he will get smashed by Montiel & outboxed by Mijares. Both legitimate top 20 pound4pound fighters today.

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Yeah that is true.
Israel did drop Vic in sparring.

No doubt all Vic's physical advantages are somewhat diminished at 115+ pounds.
Vic should get past Kirilov (hopefully) but he will get smashed by Montiel & outboxed by Mijares. Both legitimate top 20 pound4pound fighters today.

I think you will find it was the other way round. It was over at Freddie Roach's Wild Card Gym and Israel Vasquez opted out of the eighth round. A few of the boys were there and there is also a tape of the sparring. Get the facts right before you type up hearsay boys.

[Kegsy]

I think you will find it was the other way round. It was over at Freddie Roach's Wild Card Gym and Israel Vasquez opted out of the eighth round. A few of the boys were there and there is also a tape of the sparring. Get the facts right before you type up hearsay boys.
I remember reading quotes somewhere when it happened on fight news.
Clearly stating Vic was knocked down....Geez im a fan of Vic's no need to become a nuthugger like the Mundine guys.

[PIPO23]

Got back from a shit day at work. This is what I do to relax. And straight left made me laugh. Thank u Straight-left. I heard the story from a mexican dude. Who is always at Wild card gym. He said Vic got dropped. One of you'se is lying. But I take the Mexi word. I believe him..

[raff]

wow, a heated conversation about vic, about time, he deserves more attention, good or bad, either way time will tell if vic has learnt something. he is my favorite fighter & i hope hes learnt something, hopefully hes keeping his hands up & he gets back on top, either way staright left, ppl are all entitled to their own opinions, even if you disagree

[jamel]

Im feelin that bro. Montiel is the man at 115. this Mijares hype job has been blown out of proportion. I feel Montiel is not getting enough love. The kid is beating anyone, not just beating rather giving each and every one he fought a complete and utter beat-down. Mijares may school a Arce and what not. Montiel would hurt Arce bad, real bad same goes for navarro and all those bums Mijares schooled..Anyone this man hits clean is going down, ask gorres, castillo and Maldanado.

As for the fight. A winnable fight. Kirilov there's nothing super to say about this guy. He's average in every department. But is solid. Neither impressed with either Vic or Kirilov. Except Vic's power. Although his chin is a little glassy. I give Kirilov points or Tko late in the fight. Cuz, Vic is hittable and was boxed easily. And dropped by light hitters, Catubay, Gorres and Donaire. A tough fight for Vic. this champion will not go away with one punch. Like the rest. Gorres fight was a SD for Montiel ?

[jamel]

In Russia I would go for Kirilov on a Close pts decision. But this is being held in the USA, I think Darchinyan either by late TKO or 116-112 on pts.

[huricn]

i think that Kirilov will box Vics ears off

[raff]

im looking foreward to this fight, itll be good to see vic with 2 belts again

[straight left]

This is a joke , people must really hate Vic. I cant believe that no one is speaking about his fight tomorrow night.

[one in a million]

All the best to Vic, I hope he walks out the ring with his head held high.

[Marcus]

whats your problem straight left?

if people dont like Vic, are u going to bitch and moan about it?

When Vic shows some respect ill respect him more.

i read he only respects a fighter after he KOs them....... whats with that shit?

he should respect the sport, he cant talk good smack so he should just let his fists do the talking.

come on Vic! get the win!

[raff]

I love watching vics fights, always have, im also a big vic fan from the getgo, i hope he brings the win, & im also intrested to see his approach after going back to his original trainer, hopefully hes not so hittable.

[shanemfr]

Check it, there's no dangerous fighter 112 at the moment. So, really Vic had it easy. He fought alota of boxers he was stronger.Cuz for a small bloke Vic had advantages over alota of his opp, he looked bulkier. But now, I wanna see Vic beat a dangerous slugger that matches up with him, power for power. And that is Montiel. Remember, I said it here first. Like I said he would Pay for his lack of defense against Donare.IF ever Montiel Vs Vic takes place. Vic will be in alot more trouble than the Donaire fight.I think Montiel.Do not want to put much mustard on his punches. But keep Vic up and punish him round after round. Then end it Vic all messed up. Trust me..:hi:
You obviously didn't know when Vic was on his undefeated streak his camp chased fights with all the other champs and Arce, they had a verbal agreement with Montiel but then Montiel went and signed a fight for lesser money, it was well documented at the time it happened, so can't go blaming Vic for who they put in front of him, as flawed as his style is he was and is willing to jump in the ring with anyone.

[PIPO23]

You obviously didn't know when Vic was on his undefeated streak his camp chased fights with all the other champs and Arce, they had a verbal agreement with Montiel but then Montiel went and signed a fight for lesser money, it was well documented at the time it happened, so can't go blaming Vic for who they put in front of him, as flawed as his style is he was and is willing to jump in the ring with anyone.

Well, Montiel is a 115 pounder slash bantamweight. He will have no prob now. That Vic is at 115. Now the question is will Vic fight the bad ass Mexican? we know Mexicans are the best in the lower weights? or will Vic continue fighting no power, folds easily boxers for example Kirilov. WHich he has all his career he fought these types of boxers. My feeling is no to the first question and yes to the second question..Montiel is my favorite boxer at 115 and the man is avoided. Trust me..

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[shanemfr]

Well, Montiel is a 115 pounder slash bantamweight. He will have no prob now. That Vic is at 115. Now the question is will Vic fight the bad ass Mexican? we know Mexicans are the best in the lower weights? or will Vic continue fighting no power, folds easily boxers for example Kirilov. WHich he has all his career he fought these types of boxers. My feeling is no to the first question and yes to the second question..Montiel is my favorite boxer at 115 and the man is avoided. Trust me..

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Like i said Vics camp did chase fights with Arce etc big time, it was documented well on btalk with interviews with Gary Shaw, you make out Vic has had his opponents hand picked, yet Vics team publicly offered good money to all the other champs yet none were interested, fair enough ur riding Montiels nuts, but to say Vic wouldn't jump in with him is bullshit.

[PIPO23]

Like i said Vics camp did chase fights with Arce etc big time, it was documented well on btalk with interviews with Gary Shaw, you make out Vic has had his opponents hand picked, yet Vics team publicly offered good money to all the other champs yet none were interested, fair enough ur riding Montiels nuts, but to say Vic wouldn't jump in with him is bullshit.

Look at his record, name me one fighter that is legit? that would take out any one that is danger to Vic. He called out the champs at 112. And Arce that's it. He wasn't challenging Montiel, going to Cancun like he did when to challenge Arce.Vic hasn't called out Montiel publically, that's a fact.. ..Cuz, Montiel would take it..

[shanemfr]

Look at his record, name me one fighter that is legit? that would take out any one that is danger to Vic. He called out the champs at 112. And Arce that's it. He wasn't challenging Montiel, going to Cancun like he did when to challenge Arce.Vic hasn't called out Montiel publically, that's a fact.. ..Cuz, Montiel would take it..
FFS u keep sayin look at his record, he kept wanting to unify at the time, the ones that are on his record are the ones that actually took a shot.

[PIPO23]

FFS u keep sayin look at his record, he kept wanting to unify at the time, the ones that are on his record are the ones that actually took a shot.

At flyweight dude...Montiel is a supeflyweight. He has to drop a couple of pounds to make weight. ..Montiel was a champion a division 1 higher than Vic..Don't you get it.

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[PIPO23]

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Montiel WBO superflyweight champion. This is how you do it. Kirilov would be out in 1 round vs Montiel. Kirilov avoided Montiel too..

[Achilles]

Mijares, Vic, And Arce wouldn't last the distance with Montiel.That's why they're ducking and keeping Montiel out of the picture. This unfication bout Mijares is doin is ducking the real king, Montiel.He's avoiding the king.

Montiel V Mijares. I got Montiel by KO.And I am confident, Montiel destroys Darchinyan as well.

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At flyweight dude...Montiel is a supeflyweight. He has to drop a couple of pounds to make weight. ..Montiel was a champion a division 1 higher than Vic..Don't you get it.

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So on one hand you claim Vic is ducking Montiel and then on the other you're claiming Montiel wasn't avoiding Vic when Vic was undefeated and and had a verbal agreement to fight Montiel because they were in different weight classes? Seems you like to tell different stories when they suit your argument.

[pecks]

So on one hand you claim Vic is ducking Montiel and then on the other you're claiming Montiel wasn't avoiding Vic when Vic was undefeated and and had a verbal agreement to fight Montiel because they were in different weight classes? Seems you like to tell different stories when they suit your argument.Voting after the fights over. Not cool dude. :nono

[teke]

Who won :huh

Pecks - I have started downloading what you told me.

Cheers

[Marcus]

Voting after the fights over. Not cool dude. :nono


Cheat!!!

But i wish i could change my vote, and my tip :fire what was i thinkin goin against a guy who fights under the Aussie flag, a shameful act by me.

[pecks]

Pecks - I have started downloading what you told me.

CheersYou make it sound like porn by not mentioning what it is. :lol:

Anyone else here seen "Flight Of The Conchords"?

[pecks]

Cheat!!!

But i wish i could change my vote, and my tip :fire what was i thinkin goin against a guy who fights under the Aussie flag, a shameful act by me.I was thinking $1.85 for the line was great odds for the Warriors in the Warriors/Souths match but I couldn't bring myself to bet against my beloved red and green mighties :D

Lucky I didn't.

[Marcus]

What about tonights game?

Im goin to try and rip some prick off by bettin in the live game, betfair has a few dopey punters who leave the odds to the " in play " option.

[Dr Gonzo]

i tipped Newcastle.... dont know why :(

[pecks]

i tipped Newcastle.... dont know why :(I think they'll win. Parra have been playing like AIDS carriers this year.

Do the odds change during the 'live play' option Marcus? They'd have to, wouldn't they?

[PH|LLA]

Credit where credit is due, it was a spectacular knockout and showed how good Donaire really is.

But I gotta say Vic gave him that KO on a platter in a way, it was one of the most amatuerish defensive displays your going to see from a world champ.
Donaire was tagging Vic over and over again in that fight. 2 of the judges might have had the fight even but the 3rd one had it a shutout for Donaire. When i watched the fight live I saw Darchinyan get outclassed by Donaire from start to finish.

[pecks]

Donaire was tagging Vic over and over again in that fight. 2 of the judges might have had the fight even but the 3rd one had it a shutout for Donaire. When i watched the fight live I saw Darchinyan get outclassed by Donaire from start to finish.It was still a fairly close fight up until the stoppage, but yeah, Vic was getting outboxed.

[Marcus]

I think they'll win. Parra have been playing like AIDS carriers this year.

Do the odds change during the 'live play' option Marcus? They'd have to, wouldn't they?

Yeah they change, i dont know what to really, i was watching the F1 odds live last night, but you couldnt pick it with a engine fail with 3 laps to go.

Thing is i do it all on my mobile phone, so it logs out after 3 min of inactivity.

[raff]

i think vic wins a rematch with donaire

[pecks]

Yeah they change, i dont know what to really, i was watching the F1 odds live last night, but you couldnt pick it with a engine fail with 3 laps to go.

Thing is i do it all on my mobile phone, so it logs out after 3 min of inactivity.I've given up on gambling, but still find myself checking out the odds :D

I slowly made a nice sum of money, but blew it all on the on the All Blacks when they lost to South Africa. :-(

[ashley]

Great win for Vic :good

Kirilov looks like a smaller younger version of Sven Ottke :D

[Wrangler]

Congrats Vic. A fighter with enormous power. Good luck !

[WhataRock]

Donaire was tagging Vic over and over again in that fight. 2 of the judges might have had the fight even but the 3rd one had it a shutout for Donaire. When i watched the fight live I saw Darchinyan get outclassed by Donaire from start to finish.

Vic got owned in the end. But did have his moments.

I just watched it again just now so I can be sure but I had it:

1st round- Donaire, pretty clearly.

2nd round- Was close but I gave to Vic (and so did the commentator), he landed a few good lefts to the head and body. There wouldnt have any question if he hadnt stuck his face out those couple of times and given a free shot away. But in essence in was the beginning of the end because he was lungeing in and had to use a lot of effort to just win a round, whereas Donaire looked comfortable and was judging the distance nicely.

3rd- Big round for Donaire, good start, good finish, didnt really give vic a chance to work in the middle.

4th- I thought Donaire edged it but I wouldnt argue it going to other way.
Again though in hindsight you could see what Donaire was setting Vic up for but if you were a judge seeing it for the first time I can see why they might score it for Vic. You would probably see Donaire backing off a bit after he ate that right hand early in the round and the spinning thing might have turned them off because your not really supposed to turn your back.

5th..well we all know what happened there.

2 big rounds for Donaire, 2 that could have gone either way. A shut out isnt out of the question but neither is two a piece. In the end it was all academical really.

Vic looked the smaller man in there, which is a rare thing for him.

I aint so sure Vic can ever beat Donaire, we at least this one.

[Achilles]

Voting after the fights over. Not cool dude. :nono

Pfft! Like I was voting for anyone other than Vic at anytime. It's not a picking competition, it's simply an expression of who you think or thought would win. If you doubt my integrity and think I had some alterior motive for ad******g the vote, a measly one more in Vic's favour when he was already twice as many votes in front then you have a very negative view of the world my friend.

[raff]

based on his last performance i believe vic could beat donaire.

[pecks]

Pfft! Like I was voting for anyone other than Vic at anytime. It's not a picking competition, it's simply an expression of who you think or thought would win. If you doubt my integrity and think I had some alterior motive for ad******g the vote, a measly one more in Vic's favour when he was already twice as many votes in front then you have a very negative view of the world my friend.Take it easy dude, I'm just breaking ya balls.

[pecks]

You fucking cheating scumbag!

[PIPO23]

I give cred to VIC. Not taking anything away from him. Good win. What now? Montiel or Mijares?

:D

[Kegsy]

I give cred to VIC. Not taking anything away from him. Good win. What now? Montiel or Mijares?

:D
I think he will try & get Mijares.

Mijares is the better boxer, but stylistically Montiel is a nightmare for Vic.

At least Mijares doesn't have huge power which will suit Vic.
Whereas Montiel has just as big power as Vic, & has that strong Mexican chin too.

[PIPO23]

I think he will try & get Mijares.

Mijares is the better boxer, but stylistically Montiel is a nightmare for Vic.

At least Mijares doesn't have huge power which will suit Vic.
Whereas Montiel has just as big power as Vic, & has that strong Mexican chin too.

Yes!

Montiel has legit one punch power. No more easy fights for Vic. Fight the real deal, Montiel..

:good

[PIPO23]

I think he will try & get Mijares.

Mijares is the better boxer, but stylistically Montiel is a nightmare for Vic.

At least Mijares doesn't have huge power which will suit Vic.
Whereas Montiel has just as big power as Vic, & has that strong Mexican chin too.

Yes!

Montiel has legit one punch power. No more easy fights for Vic. Fight the real deal, Montiel..

:good

[PIPO23]

I think he will try & get Mijares.

Mijares is the better boxer, but stylistically Montiel is a nightmare for Vic.

At least Mijares doesn't have huge power which will suit Vic.
Whereas Montiel has just as big power as Vic, & has that strong Mexican chin too.

Yes!

Montiel has legit one punch power. No more easy fights for Vic. Fight the real deal, Montiel..

:good

[Marcus]

Darchinyan moves focus to Majares

VIC Darchinyan will fight Mexican Christian Mijares in a bid to become the undisputed world super-flyweight champion after winning the IBF crown with a devastating fifth-round knockout of champion Dimitri Kirilov in Washington.
The bout against Mijares in Las Vegas, set down for October at the 52.16kg limit, was confirmed just hours after the Sydney-based, Armenian-born southpaw defeated Kirilov in Tacoma yesterday.
Kirilov was sent crashing to the canvas early in the fifth round with a left hook that opened up a deep gash to the mouth and had him nursing a bloodied nose.
A second vicious straight left that landed flush on the Russian's jaw followed up by a smashing round-house right sent Kirilov to the canvas for the count.
It was all referee Earl Brown needed to step in and stop the bout 1min05sec into the round.
Darchinyan was in front 40-36 on all three official scorecards after the end of the fourth round.
Two lefts from Darchinyan, the former IBF-IBO flyweight champion, early in the opening round established the tempo of the fight.
"I am very happy," Darchinyan told The Australian. "I promised my fans back in Australia that I would win by knockout and I delivered on the promise.
"I never go back on my word."
About 160 rounds of sparring helped Darchinyan get into top shape for the bout, his first in the Pacific northwest of the US.
It took his record to 30 wins, 24 by knockout, one loss and one draw.
Kirilov, 29, came into the bout with a record of 29 wins, nine by knockout, three losses and a draw.
"My next goal is to go after Mijares," Darchinyan said.
"I don't want to just become undisputed champion, I don't want to stay too long in this weight division, I want to fight for (other) belts.
"I'm 32, I want to move because I can feel big power.
"I can fight any opponent taller than me and I feel powerful and every day the power is getting more and more.
"I was very focused for the fight. What the fans saw today was a stronger, smarter and very focused fighter."
Darchinyan said in his amateur days he had a very good record against Russian boxers.
"I sparred and trained with Russians, I knew their style," he said.
Manager Elias Nasser said Darchinyan had stuck to his pre-fight game plan to perfection.
"There were no wild punches thrown," Nasser said.
"His performance today reminded me very much of how Kostya Tszyu stopped Zab Judah inside two rounds in Las Vegas seven years ago.
"If I was one of the fight judges I would have rated Vic's performance as a perfect 10."
Darchinyan is a former IBF flyweight champion who defended that division's crown six times before losing the title to Filipino Nonito Donaire.
Donaire stopped Darchinyan in the fifth round in July last year.
Kirilov had held the IBF crown for less than a year.

[WhataRock]

This is great news if its 100%.

Vic will lose but its against a p4p fighter. No shame.

Then he can move up to bantem and have a go at the title there.

[Kegsy]

I too hope the Mijares bout comes off for Vic.
Great bout that they should try & get televised on free to air TV in Australia.

[Marcus]

This is great news if its 100%.

Vic will lose but its against a p4p fighter. No shame.

Then he can move up to bantem and have a go at the title there.

Majares doenst have alot of head movement in my eyes, sure he turns his head with the shots, but he is a pretty flat footed fighter.

Vic has a good chance to KO him in a war.

[raff]

vic all the way, unify it, hell do it, it will be great for all aussies

[straight left]

To all you haters and those who jumped the raging bull ship, its time to get back on and enjoy the ride.

The Raging Bull will destroy everyone in this division.

Point 1 - Montiel goes very very ordinary against southpaws, Gorres the weak shit was hitting him at will with no power , when Vic lands a straight left on his jaw and rattles his brain stems it will just be survival for Montiel

Point 2 - Jose Navarro another southpaw who lost to Kirilov and Mijares pretty much the same way , landed pretty regular straight lefts on Mijares jaw also, watch the game plan go out of the window when Vic lands one on his jaw - remember Mijares drew with Maldonado who Vic destroyed. Everyone fell in love with Mijares after he beat that dog Arce, that his claim to fame.

The BULL will destroy everyone in his path. Just watch and see.

[raff]

i never was a hater straight left, been following since his first pro fight.

[PIPO23]

To all you haters and those who jumped the raging bull ship, its time to get back on and enjoy the ride.

The Raging Bull will destroy everyone in this division.

Point 1 - Montiel goes very very ordinary against southpaws, Gorres the weak shit was hitting him at will with no power , when Vic lands a straight left on his jaw and rattles his brain stems it will just be survival for Montiel

Point 2 - Jose Navarro another southpaw who lost to Kirilov and Mijares pretty much the same way , landed pretty regular straight lefts on Mijares jaw also, watch the game plan go out of the window when Vic lands one on his jaw - remember Mijares drew with Maldonado who Vic destroyed. Everyone fell in love with Mijares after he beat that dog Arce, that his claim to fame.

The BULL will destroy everyone in his path. Just watch and see.


Fair enough...Vic's a good fighter. Montiel is not one of the best for nothing mate. Think it over. Montiel has been a champion. And I believe a better champion than Kirilov will ever be. He has had made several succesful devastating victories in title defenses.Very impressive. You bring up Gorres again. Mofo was hurt and clang on for dear life. Montiel hurt Gorres more than Vic did.There's no argument there. But ah, it'll be a good fight. A bit of a prob. And to me it's no surprise at all.Vic want's Mijares LOL. Come on Vic. What about Montiel? I think Montiel should call out Vic. Cuz Vic won't.


:hey

[straight left]

Fair enough...Vic's a good fighter. Montiel is not one of the best for nothing mate. Think it over. Montiel has been a champion. And I believe a better champion than Kirilov will ever be. He has had made several succesful devastating victories in title defenses.Very impressive. You bring up Gorres again. Mofo was hurt and clang on for dear life. Montiel hurt Gorres more than Vic did.There's no argument there. But ah, it'll be a good fight. A bit of a prob. And to me it's no surprise at all.Vic want's Mijares LOL. Come on Vic. What about Montiel? I think Montiel should call out Vic. Cuz Vic won't.


:hey

I truly understand what your saying mate. It just pissed me off when a lot of people here in Australia wrote him off for losing one fight. He made a range of mistakes against Donaire - No defence , no jab and always throwing the left bolo. But who doesnt make mistakes you have to remember that Vic fights anyone, no one at 112 would fight him , all the champs were ducking for cover, so Vic goes and fights Donaire who is campaigning at 118lbs. The guys got balls and he lost , thats no shame , but the most important thing is he undrstood his flaws and he addressed them and looked spectacular, you need to remember that Kirilov is a great world class boxer that has beaten guys at 118lbs.
If you go off the form line Mijares and Montiel better be prepared because their game plan will go out of the window the first time they get bombed by our Raging Bull.
Lets get behind him , he is our champion Australia!!

[PIPO23]

I truly understand what your saying mate. It just pissed me off when a lot of people here in Australia wrote him off for losing one fight. He made a range of mistakes against Donaire - No defence , no jab and always throwing the left bolo. But who doesnt make mistakes you have to remember that Vic fights anyone, no one at 112 would fight him , all the champs were ducking for cover, so Vic goes and fights Donaire who is campaigning at 118lbs. The guys got balls and he lost , thats no shame , but the most important thing is he undrstood his flaws and he addressed them and looked spectacular, you need to remember that Kirilov is a great world class boxer that has beaten guys at 118lbs.
If you go off the form line Mijares and Montiel better be prepared because their game plan will go out of the window the first time they get bombed by our Raging Bull.
Lets get behind him , he is our champion Australia!!

Montiel a tough fight mate. Kiri had nothing. He was a punching bag. Montiel is a different animal .