Is Amir Khan good for the future of boxing in Britain?

[Decebal]

Stupid question? Obviously YES, partly...because Khan has made boxing more popular with young people in this country than anyone else recently...but with the talent and the "nice lad" persona comes the hype and the gravy train that Amir himself helps himself from without much reserve...so has he become more about the celebrity than about the boxing? (It happens a lot in Britain these days, in all fields...) Does that not diminish from the status of the sport? And would kids thinking of puting on the gloves still want to do it if what could end up beind a bit of a hype train ends up unfortunately being derailed or if Khan continues making a career fighting guys he is almost sure to beat?? Would that not turn boxing into a bit of a circus act and take away from it? What do you think?

[IronBull]

When he won Olympic medal, a lot of kids joined the gym! Good for British boxing!

khan has ploughed £700,000 of his own money into Gloves Gym. see [Only registered and activated users can see links]

[Amsterdam]

Stupid question? Obviously YES, partly...because Khan has made boxing more popular with young people in this country than anyone else recently...but with the talent and the "nice lad" persona comes the hype and the gravy train that Amir himself helps himself from without much reserve...so has he become more about the celebrity than about the boxing? (It happens a lot in Britain these days, in all fields...) Does that not diminish from the status of the sport? And would kids thinking of puting on the gloves still want to do it if what could end up beind a bit of a hype train ends up unfortunately being derailed or if Khan continues making a career fighting guys he is almost sure to beat?? Would that not turn boxing into a bit of a circus act and take away from it? What do you think?

It's been a circus act for a while and has taken away from it accordingly.

TV show planned, autobiography already out, probably a goddamn film in the works for all we know, and he has yet to accomplish a damn thing in professional boxing. That's the definition of a nutter-exploitative boxing circus and it's going end really soon, they are milking the cow for all it's worth.

The young fans come into boxing because of Khan for all the wrong reasons and when he's laid out and drooling on the canvas, they will leave the sport behind for all the wrong reasons.:patsch

Because of that, I hope that he's not just drooling, but I hope that his jaw gets broken for a little extra effect, little exploitative joke.

[Amsterdam]

When he won Olympic medal, a lot of kids joined the gym! Good for British boxing!

khan has ploughed £700,000 of his own money into Gloves Gym. see [Only registered and activated users can see links]


Just the fact that an unproven, 20 year old hype job has that kind of capital to dispose of is absolutely sickening.

[IronBull]

Just the fact that an unproven, 20 year old hype job has that kind of capital to dispose of is absolutely sickening.

What??? Why are you so selfish mate. The gym is massive, it has 2 floors. Amir is a millionaire if you didnt know that.

You should at least give credit to Amir for building a new gym for a community.. Good for british boxing..

[China_hand_Joe]

Boxing the sport, the art will never be popular in Britain. The lack for respect for Joe Calzaghe proves that.


Boxing personalities can have good spells. Eubanks, Benn, Khan and Ricky "just one of the lads" Hatton show that.

[NOrth]

Any athlete who has a glimour of hope of becoming european champion, let alone one that has potential to be a top ten p4p fighter. Jury is still out on how good he can be, but there aint many who have his raw talent, just a case of keeping him motivated and moulding it. Of course we can only determine an undefeated youngsters potential as he movves up through the ranks to face sterner tests. Willie Limmond is a good domenstic fighter, and a fine opponent for Khan at this stage.

So, yes, good for boxing. I dont think any of the arguments for bad hold water. Even people who dont like him (amsterdam for example) are talkign about him, and subsequently the sport, which in turn puts focus on guys like limmond.

[Amsterdam]

What??? Why are you so selfish mate. The gym is massive, it has 2 floors. Amir is a millionaire if you didnt know that.

You should at least give credit to Amir for building a new gym for a community.. Good for british boxing..

Selfish?

Yes, I know Amir is a millionare, that's what I was saying was sickening, not the fact that a gym was built. It's sickening that an unproven, unworthy hype job has that kind of capital.

[victorhugo4222]

Selfish?

Yes, I know Amir is a millionare, that's what I was saying was sickening, not the fact that a gym was built. It's sickening that an unproven, unworthy hype job has that kind of capital.

Your totally right there mate. my friend is only 23, a pro boxer, 20 pro fights, has fought for the british title 3 times won once and defended it once, fought for the wbu twice and not only would he be lucky to have made £50,000 from boxing when he defended his britiish the other week there he didnt even get a mention in the newspapers up here.

So how can you justify Khan already being a millionaire and everything he does splashed all over the newspapers? im not saying its Khans fault its the media and everyone around him but hasnt anyone thought about how all the other boxers must feel about this? thwey bust there guts and dedicate there whole lives to boxing and dont make a 100th in there entire career than what hes made already. It makes me F****G sick.

[NOrth]

Supply and demand. He wins Olympic silver at 17, so promoters clamour for his signature. Promter knows he can promote this guy and make a mint, and in turn Khans handlers knew this too. Boxings a business.

[stake501]

Your totally right there mate. my friend is only 23, a pro boxer, 20 pro fights, has fought for the british title 3 times won once and defended it once, fought for the wbu twice and not only would he be lucky to have made £50,000 from boxing when he defended his britiish the other week there he didnt even get a mention in the newspapers up here.

So how can you justify Khan already being a millionaire and everything he does splashed all over the newspapers? im not saying its Khans fault its the media and everyone around him but hasnt anyone thought about how all the other boxers must feel about this? thwey bust there guts and dedicate there whole lives to boxing and dont make a 100th in there entire career than what hes made already. It makes me F****G sick.



Totally correct...but this not Khans fault...it is the media. If you aer a professional you have to make as much money as possible for your short and dangerous career.

the thing is it happens within boxing all the time....a fringe level heavyweight will make loads more than a title winner at a lighter weight. Wheres the justice....there is none, its about popularity with the fans, harcore and casual. As Khan caught the public imagination as a kid, similar to de la hoya, he can rinse for ages.

Naz did the same and exploited it as he caught the imagination by being extremely arrogant and winning. He probably made three times as much as Bareera had. Was it fair ...no ....but its business

[Amsterdam]

Your totally right there mate. my friend is only 23, a pro boxer, 20 pro fights, has fought for the british title 3 times won once and defended it once, fought for the wbu twice and not only would he be lucky to have made £50,000 from boxing when he defended his britiish the other week there he didnt even get a mention in the newspapers up here.


I know it, it's awful standards and it relates to the entire societal model, but that's more for the Lounge. The point is that awful exploitation like this is nothing but INSULTING to hardcore boxing fans and especially to hard working fighters whom are sometimes excellent, but get no chance. Travis Simms is a guy who was avoided and thrown away for a long time, because he's not overly marketable, but he's skilled to no end and puts on a fight, guys like this and your friend that you mention deserve better treatment. Simms is even a legitimate champ at LMW and a danger to every fighter there, yet he's made 1/5th of what baby Khan has made.


So how can you justify Khan already being a millionaire and everything he does splashed all over the newspapers?

You can, but you have to support unrestrained, exploitative elitist Capitalism to really justify it. If you are a person of good heart, there is no way you can justify it in a supportive manner.


im not saying its Khans fault its the media and everyone around him but hasnt anyone thought about how all the other boxers must feel about this? thwey bust there guts and dedicate there whole lives to boxing and dont make a 100th in there entire career than what hes made already. It makes me F****G sick.


It makes me sick too. IronBull thinks I am an asshole, when my intentions for professional fighters are only honourable, I even advocate a special pension for guys who make their career out of boxing, all of the lower level guys who fight long careers and are needed, but in the end are broke, that's repulsive. This is something most boxing fans would advocate, they would also advocate a good regulation on these damn sanctioning bodies, if they do advocate this, then they have no business being a hypocrite and advocating this Khan mess.

[Amsterdam]

Supply and demand. He wins Olympic silver at 17, so promoters clamour for his signature. Promter knows he can promote this guy and make a mint, and in turn Khans handlers knew this too. Boxings a business.

But is this the way you want it to be? If you'd prefer it to be both a business, but have quality also in the front running, then don't support this little cunt and his hype machine, it only digs this hole worse.

[victorhugo4222]

That's not supply and demand!!! It's blatant hype - hoping the bubble doesn't burst before the shine comes off. They want to make money off him - and I'm not saying it's wrong that he doesn't want it - but he thinks he is the best thing ever, claiming he could handle Floyd Mayweather Jr or any of the British contenders comfortably. Which is crap, clearly.

He's not the sharpest clearly, and being given all this money has given him an inflated sense of importance. he needs to be beaten once and then we'll see where he goes. I hope he only gets a draw or a loss aganst Limond - he'll learn some humility, lose the hype wagon and then hopefully mature into a decent pro.

Obviously on a completely different scale alex arthur was pretty similiar to khan, not in the hype but the arrogance, and i couldnt stand him even though im scottish but losing to gomez was the best thing to happen to him now look at him not only do i like arthur now i actually go see his fights when i can. I hope the same thing happens with khan cause as much as i cant stand him just now he does have potential and could be good for british boxing.

[NOrth]

That's not supply and demand!!! It's blatant hype - hoping the bubble doesn't burst before the shine comes off. .

It is supply and demand in that ****** wasnt the only promoter chasing his signature, but he was offering the largest sum of cash.

There is only one product in this instance (khan), therefor the demand is higher (from the promoters) so the product is worth more money. If there was only one promoter vying for his signature he wouldnt be getting anywhere near the money he is now.

Should we be arsed about what he's earning anyway? I think we should just enjoy the ride whilst it lasts.

[NOrth]

What ride? Every boxers career is a ride. This is the start of his, and Willie Limmond, aswel as a commonwealth strap, is a bloody good opponent for a 12th fight. Better than Hattons 12th opponent, Better than Calzaghes 12th opponent, Better than John Murrays 12th opponent .... etc....

"inflated purses" - who do you think pays the purses? promoter, maybe? Im sure there were stipulations in the initial contract with details of pay incriments.

As for the deals with the likes of reebok? Cant comment. But I do disagree with "he represents all thats wrong with boxing" - infact im interested to hear exactly what he represents thats wrong with the sport?

[victorhugo4222]

1) He now needs to fight someone decent to back up his mouth. He's a good opponent, but if Khan doesn't knock him senseless then you can't believe the rest of it. Limond is the first quality opponent he's faced -THE FIRST!!!! The media going on is one thing, but he's started to believe it - he'd beat Thaxton my arse...

2) Purses - how many fighters in their first fights are getting 5 figure sums as well as that monstrous signing bonus. Look at a comparison in Andy Murray, the Scottish tennis player - he only received the attention because he beat Andy Roddick and did so well at Wimbledon. then he beat Federer. He's a talented player who, up until then, was earning standard pay on the tour. He achieved something which is why he's paid so well.

Khan has achieved nothing since that silver medal. the medal deserves some respect, undoubtedly, but not the amount of attention he's getting. i give you two words: Audley Harrison. This is a virtual repeat.

3) Representing the negative of the sport: he's a hype job, with a mouth bigger than his skills, getting over-paid for doing very little of note while boasting of his unfounded superiority. It's one thing Mayweather (obnoxious little scroat that he is) saying it, because he has some track record against elite fighters, but Khan does not.

When he gets put down, the people that flocked to the sport will walk away, disappointed by yet another set of false promises.

hence: all that's bad about the sport.

You are so right mate hes just doing an audley harrison. If everyone wants to be taken in by all the hype then let them when khan ends up in the gutter like audley harrison it will be us who has the last laugh.

[Amsterdam]

You are so right mate hes just doing an audley harrison. If everyone wants to be taken in by all the hype then let them when khan ends up in the gutter like audley harrison it will be us who has the last laugh.

And hey my fellow Khan realists, you damn well know I won't just be having a laugh, I'll be pouring a drink and doing a little jig.:lol:

[Jimbo]

He makes a lot of money because he won Olympic silver at 17, comes across well to the general public and appeals especially strongly to British Asians.

He's fought a decent level of comp in his first 11 fights and is making a good step up in his 12th.

He hasn't faced any punchers yet but who puts prospects in with punchers?

To all of those people outraged at the hype and sponsorship money, would you rather it went to another more talented young boxer, and if so who, or would you rather it went to another sport or to a pop star/big brother contestant? It's not like he's robbing money out of other boxers' pockets, just that boxing is getting a bigger share of the available media money.

I can't see how more people watching boxing is bad for the sport and can't see how anyone who was a boxing fan before would be put off were Khan to be brutally ko'ed. Can't even see that all of those who watched the sport because of Khan would no longer watch it.

Can't really see the negative angle. :huh

[rooq]

im not saying its Khans fault its the media and everyone around him but hasnt anyone thought about how all the other boxers must feel about this? thwey bust there guts and dedicate there whole lives to boxing and dont make a 100th in there entire career than what hes made already. It makes me F****G sick.

i agree with you about the first part (your mate simpson?), but boxers are paid what they are worth as a product as well as how skilled they are. its like beckham getting paid a million dollars a week to play for LA Galaxy...he's not the best player in the world but is one of the most recognisable and therefore brings publicity and money to his employers.

Same with Khan...as you've said, he's achieved fuck all in pro boxing, but his success as an amateur and the marketing machine behind him has made him one of the most recognisable boxers in the uk helping sell more tickets. so obviously he's going to get paid more than a hard working decent fighter who's been around but doesn't have the media-friendly aura required to create a sports personality.

its not sickening, its just how the world works.

[stake501]

2) Purses - how many fighters in their first fights are getting 5 figure sums as well as that monstrous signing bonus. Look at a comparison in Andy Murray, the Scottish tennis player - he only received the attention because he beat Andy Roddick and did so well at Wimbledon. then he beat Federer. He's a talented player who, up until then, was earning standard pay on the tour. He achieved something which is why he's paid so well.



Murray became famous by being the first british winner of the Junior US Open....hence he beat Khan to Young Sports Personality of the year.....voted by the British public....

He then consoliodiated his hype by beating Roddick and Federer....in tennis you can lose ...in boxing you cant..

Murray is fourth favourite to win Wimbledon...even though he is eight seed, eleven in the world, never got past the forth round, and grass is his second worst surface.....if thats not overhype what its it???

The percentage of ppl who leave an event or switch off the telly after Khan is done is the MINORITY. Ask the ABA....khan has only helped bring ppl into gyms and increased theh viewing figures.

The hate is so irrational. And its this fake rightous indignation that is embarrasing to everyone.

Boxing is a business and has been since time immorial. Those lliberal lefties who blame everything on capitalism :tong . Money talks.....Paupers walk.....i drive around in a SLK :lol:

[Charles187]

Ive enjoyed watching Khans fights this far - does this make me any less of a boxing fan?

[achillesthegreat]

Just the fact that an unproven, 20 year old hype job has that kind of capital to dispose of is absolutely sickening.
I agree. Olympic silver medalists who beat the best P4P amateur in the world are unproven :patsch

[IronBull]

Thats unproven???? No.

Amateur Achievements

Beat the best P4P amateur in the world

2004 Athens Olympic Silver Medallist 60kgs div

2004 World Junior Gold Medallist and best boxer of the tournament (Korea)

2004 Senior Olympic Qualifier (in Bulgaria) Strandja Cup Gold medallist and Best Boxer

2003 Senior Addias Box Gala (in Germany) Gold medallist and Best Performa

2003 European Schoolboys Championships (in Italy) Gold medallist

2003 Best English under 17 Cadet National Boxer Gold medallist

2003 European Cadets Championships Ahmet Comert Cup

2003 European Cadets Championships the Outstanding Boxer award

2003 European Cadets Championships in Lithuania 2003 Gold Medal

Junior Olympics 2003 USA Best Boxer

Junior Olympics 2003 USA Gold Medal

James Anderton Shield - best boxer of the season 2003.

Award for winning National Schoolboys championships three times consecutively.

Boxing Belt - for best outstanding overall boxer 2003.

National Juniors ABA Champion 2003 at 57-60kg.

National Schoolboys Champion 2003

Bolton Forum for sport the British Sports

Award 2003 for outstanding performer

Best Boxer for National Schoolboys Northern Champion 2003

NABC Boys Club Championship 2002

Four Nations Gold Medal Champion 2002

National Schoolboys Champion 2002

Hancock 2001 Gold Champion Medallist
England vs Ireland Champion April 2001
Included Best boxer of the night

British National Schoolboys Champion 2001

England vs Scotland Champion Dec 2000
Included Best boxer of the night

Mutinations ( teams from Ireland, Wales, Scotland) Oct Champion 2000

Northern Counties Vs Midland Counties Champion 2000

Mersey Side Select vs Repton Boys Club (South of England) Champion 2000

[China_hand_Joe]

Thats unproven???? No.

Amateur Achievements

Beat the best P4P amateur in the world

2004 Athens Olympic Silver Medallist 60kgs div

2004 World Junior Gold Medallist and best boxer of the tournament (Korea)

2004 Senior Olympic Qualifier (in Bulgaria) Strandja Cup Gold medallist and Best Boxer

2003 Senior Addias Box Gala (in Germany) Gold medallist and Best Performa

2003 European Schoolboys Championships (in Italy) Gold medallist

2003 Best English under 17 Cadet National Boxer Gold medallist

2003 European Cadets Championships Ahmet Comert Cup

2003 European Cadets Championships the Outstanding Boxer award

2003 European Cadets Championships in Lithuania 2003 Gold Medal

Junior Olympics 2003 USA Best Boxer

Junior Olympics 2003 USA Gold Medal

James Anderton Shield - best boxer of the season 2003.

Award for winning National Schoolboys championships three times consecutively.

Boxing Belt - for best outstanding overall boxer 2003.

National Juniors ABA Champion 2003 at 57-60kg.

National Schoolboys Champion 2003

Bolton Forum for sport the British Sports

Award 2003 for outstanding performer

Best Boxer for National Schoolboys Northern Champion 2003

NABC Boys Club Championship 2002

Four Nations Gold Medal Champion 2002

National Schoolboys Champion 2002

Hancock 2001 Gold Champion Medallist
England vs Ireland Champion April 2001
Included Best boxer of the night

British National Schoolboys Champion 2001

England vs Scotland Champion Dec 2000
Included Best boxer of the night

Mutinations ( teams from Ireland, Wales, Scotland) Oct Champion 2000

Northern Counties Vs Midland Counties Champion 2000

Mersey Side Select vs Repton Boys Club (South of England) Champion 2000That isn't quite the same P4P greatness Calzaghe showed by moving through the weights winning the ABA title, at 3 different weights in 3 years.

[Betty Swollocks]

And hey my fellow Khan realists, you damn well know I won't just be having a laugh, I'll be pouring a drink and doing a little jig.:lol:

:lol:

ironbull - so Khan is just giving that money away from the goodness of his heart is he? You don't think it's an investment?

[Decebal]

:lol:

ironbull - so Khan is just giving that money away from the goodness of his heart is he? You don't think it's an investment?

It is an investment in his public image, it is an investment in real estate and it is an investment in boxing...in that order. Still, it's a good thing to do, of which I am happy!

[LeadLeftHook]

:lol:

ironbull - so Khan is just giving that money away from the goodness of his heart is he? You don't think it's an investment?

You dont make much money at all running a boxing gym. I have helped run one, if he dished out 700,0000 of his own money for monetary gains there are other investments much more profitable. So yes its more out of the goodness of his heart cause he wants to give back to the community and he also said he wanted his own gym close to his place so he could work out.

[NOrth]

Incidentally, i think Kevin Mitchell's a much better and more deserving fighter.



But is the below not prominent with him too, and yet he's older and has had more fights?!?!






If he does well - good for him, but until he's actually beaten a proper fighter, who can punch hard - I'll remain unconvinced.








He's not the sharpest clearly, and being given all this money has given him an inflated sense of importance. he needs to be beaten once and then we'll see where he goes.




What ride? It's not exciting - he beats up on a bunch of part-timers!!!

I want to see competitive matches where he learns something, not just learns how to catch them when they run away.

[Amsterdam]

I agree. Olympic silver medalists who beat the best P4P amateur in the world are unproven :patsch

Oh wow, 17 year old Olympic medalist, never heard that in the line of defence before when it comes to Amir Khan.:lol:

Yes, that was quite a special achievement, but it has little to do with successful professional boxing and they have done everything wrong to mature him into a good professional boxer, they are using him as a cash cow and the "kid winning the medal" is the novelty that sells it to the average idiot.

Unproven PROFESSIONAL. Bringing up the fact that he won an Olympic medal in defence of him as a professional boxer is about like Fraudley apologists and their "they don't just hand out Olympic medals" line. We see what Fraudley Harrison has accomplished in professional boxing.:thumbsup

[NOrth]

The only reason Mitchell lost his hype was because Khan emerged on the scene and he (kev) took a backseat in the SN pecking order. I remember him switching over as someone who won the senior ABA's at 21 (was it?) There were training montages and all sort on the fight school programme.

"And I do think that all fighters usually need one pro loss to learn from." - this is true to an extent. A fighter needs to be brought along properly, anyone who is thrown in too deep too soon can receive a career ending beating, not in the injury sense, but mentally. See, for example, Jeff Lacy. Or even David Reid. Neither of these guys reached potential due to over exubarent matchmaking.

Khan is 21 (!!) years old at the moment, he has years ahead of him to develop and hone his skills. The potential is there, yes he needs to learn things but thats where work in the gym comes in. Jamie Moore's defensive display against Mathew macklin was masteful, but then compare it to his defensive display agianst Michael Jones (in their third encounter).

If Khan has 10,000 fans and 9,000 of them never watch another boxing match after he retires or loses, then surely we're still 1,000 up. Boxing is on its arse at the moment, you just need to look at the misc sports coverage on TV compared to boxings coverage. Also, have a dig around for figures for magazine purchases. Boxing Monthly & Boxing News have really really low buys, even compared to random (and i mean really random) other magazines.

If this kid form Bolton can promote the sport of boxing and entice new young (and old) people into the sport then all the better. I know quite a few casual fans who wanted to see Khans fight on the sprott harrison undercard, and accidentally saw Earl Kastidas, now if that doesnt interest the casual fan in the sport, well, what will.

[NOrth]

No no, my theory isnt based on factual numbers. It was a simple estimation to demonstrate that even if 10% remained it'd be better than nothing. For what its worth I think Amir Khan has brought more than 10,000 fans to boxing, the increase in kids joining gyms alone was immense following his olympic success.

A lot of people fail to also take into consideration that Khan is in essence serving his apprenticip as a pro fighter, like many mexicans do, as appose to serving it as an amateur. He can only beat whats put in front of him, and therefor we divert our gaze to his matchmaker*.


* As a side im happy with his choice of opponent thus far in his career. Very few face worthy opposition in their first 11 fights, Willie Limmond is a more than acceptable opponent for a 12th fight.

[Steve Fox]

I don't follow Amateur boxing that closely, but when these people on this thread say 'he beat p4p the best am in the world', are they refering to the Kinderlan rematch? If they are I don't know how they claim that was anything resembling a competitive boxing match and keep a straight face.

[stake501]

I don't follow Amateur boxing that closely, but when these people on this thread say 'he beat p4p the best am in the world', are they refering to the Kinderlan rematch? If they are I don't know how they claim that was anything resembling a competitive boxing match and keep a straight face.



Very true......that was nowhere near Kindelan at his best

At is best Kindelan would school any form of Khan (future Khan)something rotten. he beat him comfortably in their first fight before the olympics.

BUT there is no way he threw the fight for money or anything else like that. Kindelan is a great in terms of boxing and as a man. He is loved by his fans and the cuban ppl like a god, and it is not consistent with this nature to accept money for losing at the end of his career when he could have jumped ships and made millions as a pro at any time for a decade before. If you see his house in cuba, you will know he doesn't even need the money.

I honestly believe Khan can get to legitimate world title level and not face anyone near the same class as Kindelan, and thats maybe where the percived arrogance comes from.

Kindelan schooled Cotto and beat Tito comfortably

I am officially a Kindelan nuthugger

here is his record

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

[Vantage_West]

does anyone feel we are pressing the issue to early.

in reality if he wasnt famous before and just sadly didnt go to the olympics(for some strange reason) we wouldnt be having these convosations.

the guy for all i know and respect is that he is the full article he has the power ,the speed ,the technique(that above all is amazing he can do many
things with his hands) ,tall long reach, great defence, and has fought the type of guys you want him to fight...fighters not brawlers but men who want to have a scrap for pay and outboxing them is a perfect learning experience.

punchers and slick boxers will come.

[achillesthegreat]

Oh wow, 17 year old Olympic medalist, never heard that in the line of defence before when it comes to Amir Khan.:lol:

Yes, that was quite a special achievement, but it has little to do with successful professional boxing and they have done everything wrong to mature him into a good professional boxer, they are using him as a cash cow and the "kid winning the medal" is the novelty that sells it to the average idiot.

Unproven PROFESSIONAL. Bringing up the fact that he won an Olympic medal in defence of him as a professional boxer is about like Fraudley apologists and their "they don't just hand out Olympic medals" line. We see what Fraudley Harrison has accomplished in professional boxing.:thumbsup
Work it out. His riches are rooted in his amateur career. This is pretty standard for all boxers i.e. Leonard, Ali, Harrison etc

After that you keep getting more and more money, bonuses, incentives if you keep winning. Guess what Khan is 11-0! That certainly is proven to a degree at pro isn't it!

It's true though. They don't just hand out Olympic medals. Harrisons says this because he fought in such a weak amateur time. Khan on the other hand was in a hot division and in about a year faced the best P4P amateur in the world THREE TIMES.

Harrison has been a competent pro. About top 25. This is respectable, or does a fighter have to be great for you not to hate on him?

The worst thing, is NOTHING you say about Khan has any logic or substance. It's just pure hate i.e. his chin is shit. If someone says why, you are left clueless.

Leave the kid alone and let him grow. All the naysayers stopped hating when he annouced he is fighting for the second most prestigious domestic belt. Amsterdams hatred on the other hand knows no boundaries!

[Decebal]

I don't follow Amateur boxing that closely, but when these people on this thread say 'he beat p4p the best am in the world', are they refering to the Kinderlan rematch? If they are I don't know how they claim that was anything resembling a competitive boxing match and keep a straight face.

:good

[LeedsLad]

I voted yes and no. It could be positive or negative really. Whether he turns out a hype job or not, its raising the profile of boxing in Britian which is very good. But for a guy who has won only 12 fights and not faced any real quality yet, the hype is way too much. But thats more the medias fault than Amir's.

Hopefully it will get a massive generation of British boxers interested in boxing, right in time for 2012 Olympics;)

[Decebal]

Hopefully it will get a massive generation of British boxers interested in boxing, right in time for 2012 Olympics;)

:happy

[Sai]

Regardless of whether or not he will prove to be a world class fighter, hes provoking mass media interest in the sport. That means more money and more skilled athletes who choose to box which can only be a good thing on both a domestic and world level for the future.

[Mendoza]

I voted yes and no. It could be positive or negative really. Whether he turns out a hype job or not, its raising the profile of boxing in Britian which is very good. But for a guy who has won only 12 fights and not faced any real quality yet, the hype is way too much. But thats more the medias fault than Amir's.

Hopefully it will get a massive generation of British boxers interested in boxing, right in time for 2012 Olympics;)

Mate,

Khan is going to be good for British boxing. The hype comes from the Oylmpics, and therin lies the problem for Khan. When Brittish fans think of Oylmpic boxing they think of that bugger Audley Harrison. I'd like to take a clip at that wanker meself.

[Dereksmegster]

Just wondered what peoples opinion would on this now

[Clayton Bigsby]

I'd say he's done pretty good.

[sg85]

Yes & No.

Yes - he's done very well for himself bouncing back from Prescott defeat. Has obvious undoubted talent and has got alot of younger fans into boxing.

No - 'retirement' date by the time he's 28. So whilst its conceivable he could get his dream fights before this time, the mark of a true champ is to show your longevity and stay on top for as long as possible. Also his fallout with sky is just petty. He should have seen from 1-2 years back that with Haye due to retire by the time he's 31 (another premature retirement date), Froch not having long left in his career, he would be the poster boy for sky to milk millions out of. The move to primetime is only hurting him in the longrun, although i dont doubt him and sky will kiss and make up sooner or later.