View Full Version : Who stands the best chance of taking Floyd's 0?
Slothrop
07-24-2007, 12:44 PM
I go back and forth between Hatton and Cotto. Hatton's got the style, but Cotto's got the power.
Pimp C
07-24-2007, 12:46 PM
Neither but Cotto has a much better chance. PBF will school Hatton when this fight happens it won't be close.
pipe wrenched
07-24-2007, 12:54 PM
Def. Cotto. In fact PBF is the only one of the top five that has a shot to beat Cotto IMO.
pipe wrenched
07-24-2007, 12:55 PM
BTW, after his last showing, Cintron may be included in top WW discussions,
King Dan
07-24-2007, 01:02 PM
Mosley or Cotto
If Hatton was taken to school by Collazo, Floyd will whip him.
brooklyn1550
07-24-2007, 01:04 PM
Miguel Cotto
Motor City Sam
07-24-2007, 01:05 PM
I think Mosely if they fight relatively soon. Maybe Williams further down the line if The Punisher continues to develop and improve.
Not sure I'll be picking against Floyd anytime soon, though, regardless of who he fights.
KillerInstinct
07-24-2007, 01:10 PM
Why do people say Hatton has the style to beat Floyd? When you compare their skill sets and their weaknesses, I see an utter blowout by PBF
I think Paul Williams gives Floyd the biggest mismatch.
Cause Floyd has never fought a fighter who holds and hits and some people are hoping that this style is the "perfect" style to defeat PBF. I voted PW as well, he has such a high workrate and would be unfazed by PBF's punches, it'd be a very tough fight for PBF to win.
FlatNose
07-24-2007, 01:21 PM
I say Williams.He is an ackward target, can take a punch and has an incredible workrate. Notice that Mayweather, Mosely, Cotto, and Cintron are convienently forgetting that Williams exists.Mayweather doesn't have the power to intimidate Paul, but I could see Willams' power getting Floyds attention.Of one thing you can be sure...Floyd will avoid Williams like the plauge.
Slothrop
07-24-2007, 01:23 PM
I say Williams.He is an ackward target, can take a punch and has an incredible workrate. Notice that Mayweather, Mosely, Cotto, and Cintron are convienently forgetting that Williams exists.Mayweather doesn't have the power to intimidate Paul, but I could see Willams' power getting Floyds attention.Of one thing you can be sure...Floyd will avoid Williams like the plauge.
I don't see Floyd fighting Cotto, Mosley, or Williams.
Spitfire7
07-24-2007, 01:33 PM
None. Floydy won't fight anyone who had the slimmest of chance to take that 0 away.:lol:
grayggr
07-24-2007, 01:42 PM
Hatton is a plodder. He's going to be walking into Floyd's fists all night long. Hatton doesn't have the handspeed or mobility to hang with Floyd. Look how bad Luis Collazo made him look.. Floyd will make it 10x worse..
This clearly shows you have seen 1% of Ricky Hatton's fights. Ricky has great handspeed and impressive footwork. View some of his fights, come back, and your apology will be accepted.
Jose FM
07-24-2007, 01:43 PM
Cotto.
grayggr
07-24-2007, 01:45 PM
Upon reading some of the posts on this site it is very shocking to see that people actually "think" Ricky hatton can actually come close to beating Floyd Mayweather. To those people that think it's possible i wonder if you would bet $10,000 on it? I see no way Ricky Hatton can beat Floyd Mayweather Legally in boxing. Cotto stands the best chance to beat Mayweather because he has power and he applies constant pressure which can defeat mayweather. Hatton on the other hand is sloppy and just talks nonsense he cannot back up,it not so surprising to see that he decides to talk mack now that he is down two weight classes from floyd and he knows floyd will not go to 140lb to fight him. So therefore this will be Hatton's excuse
"Floyd doesn't want to fight me at 140 lb":deal . Hatton knows what will happen if they fought at welterweight, he will get spanked and exposed as a overhyped british fighter that was a product of careful matchmaking, that included many uknowns, journeymen, and past their prime greats. As a matter of a fact he used illegal tactics to beat one of the past their best greats.
You have just been exposed, as a no-nothing boxing analyst. Back to the IBO Intercontinental forums for you boy.
Thread Stealer
07-24-2007, 01:46 PM
Paul Williams, and then Miguel Cotto.
IntentionalButt
07-24-2007, 01:50 PM
Phrasing it differently doesn't separate this from the already overcrowded pack of "who can beat floyd" threads. :yep
C Money
07-24-2007, 01:51 PM
Suprised to see SSM in the lead currently. I think its about a 50/50 shot for Shane at this age.
Let's just hope PBF has the fortitude to face the top guys and find out.
I voted Cotto. Based on what I've seen him do to skilled, fast, boxers like Malignaggi, Quintana, and Judah, I definitely see him KO'ing Floyd.
Floyd wont hurt him at 47 and Miguel understand's how to get inside. He can also switch stances very proficiently and is a natural southpaw. All of those factors combine to spell a big L for Floyd.
amunz81
07-24-2007, 01:55 PM
well said C-Money!!!
SugarShane_24
07-24-2007, 02:02 PM
IMHO, i wouldn't put any tall guy against PBF. check his record against tall, lanky guys even with punching power. Corrales, Ndou, Genaro Hernandez among other's. it seems he has the movement and style to beat them easily. So I put williams and margo out of the question.
Then again, i may sound biased but i still believe it's sugar shane mosley.
compare it to the others, you may argue that they are fresher, younger, stronger and they may even beat ssm. but i've seen weakness especially with the two leading names, cotto and hatton.
why?
cotto has one of the slowest feet in the business. it may not be evident as his punching power and brute force has been enough. but if floyd uses his shoes all night cotto might not touch anything. and remember, floyd has even quicker hands, sometimes it's speed that knocks people out.
hatton, well, i'd say he may give pbf trouble the way castillo did in the first fight. but then again, pbf did beat castillo easier on the rematch. i don't think hatton will bring something that pbf has never seen before.
with mosley, floyd is facing someone with fast hands, slower than someone like judah, but with enough speed. he has the power too. and when necessary, he displayed physical strength on the dlh rematch. that physical strength can be an intangible if he wants to outmuscle pbf inside. plus, shane's bodywork has doubled over guys. and with an encounter to last the distance, pbf would surely have gotten slower as the fight progresses. making him much more vulnerable.
just my two cents.
Slothrop
07-24-2007, 02:04 PM
Do people give their honest opinions in these polls or do they just vote for their favorite fighter?
I don't know. Hatton's my favorite fighter, but I voted for Cotto.
grayggr
07-24-2007, 02:04 PM
I've seen him against Tszyu, Collazo, Urango, and Castillo. That's more than enough for me to know that he'll be chasing Floyd around the ring all night long, while eating punches in the process. PBF's handspeed and mobility is just on another level.. Hatton would be exposed bad..
Hatton has surely had chance after chance of being exposed (in fact ervery fight of the last 3 years has apparently been the time he is going to be exposed), suprisingly he never is. Collazo was a meal for Hatton who is famed for looking bad against Southpaws. Collazo was huge compared to what Floyd will be. Hatton was initially fighting at 140 as I understand it before taking the Collazo fight at 147 on six weeks notice. Hatton overpowers Tszyu, Urango (The Beast) and Castillo, and will overpower Floyd (if PFB decides to trade - which he most likely wont.). What I think you underestimate is Hatton's ability to cut off the ring and get on the inside. You may not find it pretty, or call it chasing, but I honestly think you'll be suprised at how good his footwork is for getting inside, and his handspeed is impressive whilst on the inside.
I certainly think PBF starts favourite without a doubt and displays some great defensive skill, but to call Hatton a 'plodder' confirms to me that you have not really seen him in action enough to appreciate his skill, and that you will be suprised whether he wins, or loses (or draws) should the fight be made...as expected.... in the next 48hrs.
bigguy555
07-24-2007, 02:07 PM
I think mosely is the best match for him now, but soon it will be Paul Williams
markclow
07-24-2007, 02:10 PM
Mosely.
Thats why the little creep will avoid him.
renyo
07-24-2007, 02:18 PM
i'd say cotto margarito and williams would all pose problems as far as winning anyones guess only one way to find out relentless pressure and the ability to take punishment and keep coming out throwing is what will do it not a superior or faster boxer a man who can beat pbf up over the first half of the fight maybe losing on points but able to slow him down in the second half to be able to punish him
Mind Reader
07-24-2007, 04:53 PM
Shane all the way!
Id say williams because he is tall and he's a south paw ..
Fab2333
07-24-2007, 05:35 PM
Mosley, I think he has the speed, and power. And boxing knowledge to make it a good competitive fight. Floyd does have a lil trouble with fighters that have the same speed as him or better. Even though I would pick FLoyd to win, I think he shows the most threat. Cotto, has the power. But If Zab stunned Cotto, and was able to catch him the way he did, then Floyd who is a way smarter fighter IMO, will beat Cotto. Hatton is a laugh, if the fight between him and Floyd gets made, he is gonna get killed. Williams poses a lil bit of a problem jus b/c of his height. But he makes a lot of mistakes, I h8 to say it but MArgo could have beaten him if eh capitalized on his mistakes. BUt Margo is so limited that he couldnt so hey. But Floyd on teh other hand will. Mosley poses the biggest threat IMO.
samita
07-24-2007, 05:36 PM
whoever says hatton can take floyd down is blind as a bat
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