View Full Version : Andy Lee v Willie Gibbs and Paul McCloskey v Nigel Wright
BigEars
07-19-2008, 01:20 PM
streamed live from here:[Only registered and activated users can see links] from 21:30 and shown live on RTÉ 2 in Ireland .
Andy Lee and Paul McCloskey face their toughest tasks yet in Limerick tonight as they try and prove their tag as World Class prospects .
Lee faces tough American Willie Gibbs in what seems like a tougher fight that Lee's last(which he lost) against Brian Vera . Gibbs carries more power than vera too so Lee will have to be careful .
In the fight with most relevance to this forum, Paul McCloskey and Nigel Wright face in what is seen by some as an unnoficial eliminator . The board refused to make it an actual eliminator as the bout was in Ireland(despite Oakey v Magee being for the British title in Dublin last year) .
Wright also wanted McCloskey's IBF International title on the line but I don't think Peters or McCloskey's camp were bothered with paying the fees for the bauble title, hence it's a 10 round bout .
A win for McCloskey would certainly put him in the British and European title mix and if McCloskey's camp are to look at a fight against Gianluca Branco in the near future he needs an impressive win here . McCloskey is ranked 14th by the EBU and Wright is ranked 20th so a win should move Paul up a few places, while a win for Nigel would probably move him up quite a bit .
There is quite a lot on the line and the winner will reap decent rewards and imo McCloskey will be that winner(and clearly too), Wright is a decent fighter with a very good jab but I just feel Paul will be too slick and tricky for the English Light-Welterweight champion .
Wright did put up a very good showing in his last fight though losing narrowly to the #4 WBC rated Ajose Olusegun and if Wright is at his best McCloskey will be forced into having to prove he's at European(at least) and possibly World level .
The undercard sees Stephen Haughian(like McCloskey eligible for the British title) take on a Italian with a decent record and we also see the continued comeback of former English Welterweight champion John O'Donnell .
Jason McKay(who's looking for a crack at the Commonwealth Middleweight title), Keith Cresham, Irish-Canadian Logan McGuinness and Limerick's very own Jamie Power round off the bill .
seconds out
07-19-2008, 04:31 PM
Am now streaming
COME ON LEE!!!!
TK Terrible
07-19-2008, 05:03 PM
that just audio?
paul mcCloskey:
very close fight, closer than 93-97 anyway, and even the guy in the studio says they may even have been biased when scoring.
mcCloskey should have stuck to the counter punching, that he's good at, when he moved in close he was caught with alot of unnecessary shots, took a few good body shots from wright as well
good performance by wright and unlucky with the result
andy lee:
great performance by lee, he's looking sharp, i like that straight right he holds out to keep his range and it gives cover for the big left, looks comfortable and looks the part.
WOW what a fuckin last round, best i've seen for a while, 5 seconds to go an the towels in, WHAT A LEFT HAND great fight
End of 5th round and Lee is looking impressive.
Rebel-INS
07-19-2008, 06:27 PM
End of 5th round and Lee is looking impressive.
Yeah I'm impressed so far. The commentators are ridiculous though, never heard such one sided bollocks.
How many times doe he want to say Willie Gibbs is iron?
TIGEREDGE
07-19-2008, 06:34 PM
Yeah I'm impressed so far. The commentators are ridiculous though, never heard such one sided bollocks.
How many times doe he want to say Willie Gibbs is iron?
yes its much worse than amir khan's itv coverage
znaak
07-19-2008, 06:35 PM
Yeah I'm impressed so far. The commentators are ridiculous though, never heard such one sided bollocks.
How many times doe he want to say Willie Gibbs is iron?
True. :lol: And they've been talking about his right hand over and over. Smart boxing by Lee.
TIGEREDGE
07-19-2008, 06:36 PM
True. :lol: And they've been talking about his right hand over and over. Smart boxing by Lee.
he got sparked in 1 by edison miranda and there talking about all the trouble gibbs give him
Rebel-INS
07-19-2008, 06:38 PM
he got sparked in 1 by edison miranda and there talking about all the trouble gibbs give him
Yeah, Miranda can testify to how hard Gibbs punches apparently.
TIGEREDGE
07-19-2008, 06:39 PM
GIBBS HAS PROVEN TONIGHT THAT HE HAS WHAT IT TAKES
according to the rather unbiased irish commentators
TIGEREDGE
07-19-2008, 06:40 PM
you would think that he had beaten someone like miranda or abrham
znaak
07-19-2008, 06:42 PM
And down he goes....
Rebel-INS
07-19-2008, 06:42 PM
Great last round there, that clash of heads was nasty.
znaak
07-19-2008, 06:43 PM
Those commentators... :lol: "He beat a world class fighter" and so on.
Rebel-INS
07-19-2008, 06:45 PM
Those commentators... :lol: "He beat a world class fighter" and so on.
Apparently Andy Lee's right hand could knock down a castle.
znaak
07-19-2008, 06:46 PM
Yeah, I heard that. :rofl
:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
do'nt seem to remember much about the right being mentioned........too busy watchin the fight........ thought that was the done thing no?
D-MAC
07-19-2008, 06:57 PM
The RTE commentators are always full of shite.
They are even worse than ITV....which is saying a lot.
Imagine coming back to the studio after the McCloskey-Wright fight and saying that he had it about the same on the scorecards....but he may have been biased. Way to dig your own hole you fuckwit.
antcull
07-19-2008, 06:58 PM
Those RTE Commentators are priceless.
"Willie Gibbs is the iron man!!!!!!!"
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07-19-2008, 07:00 PM
Apparently Andy Lee's right hand could knock down a castle.
"Gibbs is going for it now!...theres no use leaving his money in the bank he might as well take it out! Take it out and spend it, spend it on a cruise...around Andy lee"
:rofl
"Gibbs is going for it now!...theres no use leaving his money in the bank he might as well take it out! Take it out and spend it, spend it on a cruise...around Andy lee"
:rofl
cheesy al give you that but its far better than jim watts shit talk :dead
Rebel-INS
07-19-2008, 07:04 PM
"Gibbs is going for it now!...theres no use leaving his money in the bank he might as well take it out! Take it out and spend it, spend it on a cruise...around Andy lee"
:rofl
:lol: I only caught the end of that line when I was watching it.
Some others were:
Gibbs is on the end of Andy's pogo stick, and that punch was as low as the canvas!
seconds out
07-19-2008, 07:12 PM
PMSL where the fuck do they get that guy???
ANYWAY good showing by LEE
who do u guys think he will fight next in Limerick??
TIGEREDGE
07-19-2008, 07:14 PM
Apparently Andy Lee's right hand could knock down a castle.
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM THE IRISH?
they are commonly perceived as talking and thinking backward
TIGEREDGE
07-19-2008, 07:15 PM
for those P.C Pricks that remark was a joke. fuck yer if you find it offensive
D-MAC
07-19-2008, 07:21 PM
for those P.C Pricks that remark was a joke. fuck yer if you find it offensive
Freedom of speech, mate.
Just say it how you see it.
Of course we can all use stereotypes, but I won't get dragged into that dirty war.
mike4819
07-19-2008, 07:25 PM
Took it as a joke, but fuck you too!
TIGEREDGE
07-19-2008, 07:28 PM
Took it as a joke, but fuck you too!
nice to hear
BigEars
07-20-2008, 01:01 PM
PMSL where the fuck do they get that guy???
ANYWAY good showing by LEE
who do u guys think he will fight next in Limerick??
Jimmy Magee is a general sports commentator who has been on RTÉ for a long........long time . Back in the day he was an okay(and nothing more) athletic and football commentator . He knows nothing about boxing but RTÉ don't know who else to give the gig to . The best man for the job is probably Darragh Maloney(the guy who presents the programme) .
marty
07-20-2008, 01:50 PM
Jimmy Magee is a general sports commentator who has been on RTÉ for a long........long time . Back in the day he was an okay(and nothing more) athletic and football commentator . He knows nothing about boxing but RTÉ don't know who else to give the gig to . The best man for the job is probably Darragh Maloney(the guy who presents the programme) .
I have just read through this thread, and there was barely a positive remark made about any of the broadcast, or the boxers involved. In actual fact, there seemed to be an apparent ant-Irish feeling here.
I hope you have learnt something here Big Ears.:deal
Healy
07-20-2008, 02:15 PM
Jimmie Magee makes me cringe most the time!!
Jesus Jimmy just shut up from time to time!
Hes so biased its a disgrace
Anyways, Lee was good, really felt it was his best performance to date that i have seen anyways
The leading right was useful and the left straights were on target most the time
In one round he looked similar to Mayweather and i was enjoying it, obviously there are huge differences but for a minute there was a similarity... Lee poked out the jab to fend off and picked off Gibbs at will
Brilliant in general but against a real world class (Gibbs is good no doubt, but say Abraham) id like to see Lee use more punches, the left uppercut, the short right hooks and in theory 'mix it up' a bit
Very impressed and a good fight
Jimmy Magee is a general sports commentator who has been on RTÉ for a long........long time . Back in the day he was an okay(and nothing more) athletic and football commentator . He knows nothing about boxing but RTÉ don't know who else to give the gig to . The best man for the job is probably Darragh Maloney(the guy who presents the programme) .
no comments on the thing you started the thread about no? the fights.
nerrad
07-21-2008, 11:10 AM
Didn’t realise the ref who scored the Wright v McCloskey fight was Dick Turpin.
Did anybody report that robbery to the police?
97 - 93 Wright may have been fair!
BigEars
07-21-2008, 12:01 PM
no comments on the thing you started the thread about no? the fights.
Sorry I have commented in so many places on the fights that I didn't know where I had and where I hadn't left comments .
I thought Lee boxed very well and as expected, he's learned how to tie up which is a big positive . However if he doesn't learn how to fight on the inside for at least periods of a fight he'll never live up to his potential . I'd like to see Howard Eastman as his next opponent .
McCloskey boxed totally the wrong fight but still won(I had it 96-94), he won the first two rounds clearly when he was his usual self boxing from the outside and using his reflexes to make his opponent miss and make them pay .
After that he fought mainly on the inside which doesn't really suit him and to tell the truth he didn't seemed conditioned enough for a fight like that . In bursts he looked decent inside when he threw hard and often but overall he just couldn't maintain that and being so close to Wright eliminated McCloskey's best feature(his head movement) . However he definitely won the fight and should have learned a lot from it .
Nerrad you're only the second person I've seen who thought Wright won, if you had it 97-93 Wright that means you only gave McCloskey 1 of the last 8 which is crazy . 97-93 or 96-94 are acceptible scores for the fight, it was close but giving it to right would've been robbing McCloskey of a deserved win .
[Only registered and activated users can see links] the fight is available there for those that want to watch it and make up their own mind .
Marty I don't care if the people here are anti-Irish, once they watch the fights I'll be happy .
marty
07-21-2008, 12:28 PM
Marty I don't care if the people here are anti-Irish, once they watch the fights I'll be happy .
:roll:
BigEars
07-21-2008, 12:48 PM
:roll:
Hey this isn't an Irish forum, I don't expect people to be jumping up and down with joy at these fights . I know plenty of people here probably enjoyed Dunne and Lee's defeat aswell as Duddy's fuck up against Smichet .
But who gives a shit, that's their perogative and it doesn't effect me .
marty
07-21-2008, 01:09 PM
Hey this isn't an Irish forum, I don't expect people to be jumping up and down with joy at these fights . I know plenty of people here probably enjoyed Dunne and Lee's defeat aswell as Duddy's fuck up against Smichet .
But who gives a shit, that's their perogative and it doesn't effect me .
:scaredas:Settle petal,:good
Hey this isn't an Irish forum, I don't expect people to be jumping up and down with joy at these fights . I know plenty of people here probably enjoyed Dunne and Lee's defeat aswell as Duddy's fuck up against Smichet .
But who gives a shit, that's their perogative and it doesn't effect me .
i posted my thoughts of the fights near the start of the thread, then some neanderthals started havin a pop at the irish, which offends a side of me, but not enough to write home about
BigEars
07-21-2008, 01:56 PM
i posted my thoughts of the fights near the start of the thread, then some neanderthals started havin a pop at the irish, which offends a side of me, but not enough to write home about
I'm not having a go at anyone in particular, we're all here for the same reason(our love of boxing) and on these forums that's all I care about .
I post links to these Irish cards merely because I feel as boxing fans people will enjoy them .
Anyway lets get back to discussing the fights themselves and away from this stupid argument .
What do people reckon McCloskey should do next, go for Branco/Barnes ?
marty
07-21-2008, 02:53 PM
I'm not having a go at anyone in particular, we're all here for the same reason(our love of boxing) and on these forums that's all I care about .
I post links to these Irish cards merely because I feel as boxing fans people will enjoy them .
Anyway lets get back to discussing the fights themselves and away from this stupid argument .
What do people reckon McCloskey should do next, go for Branco/Barnes ?
Branco could be an easier fight than Barnes. But it will be hard to coach any of those two champions to come to Ireland.:hi:
What do people reckon McCloskey should do next, go for Branco/Barnes ?
Think Branco and Witter are in negotiations over the latter challenging for European Title - if no agreement reached purse bids called mid August.
Apparently Barnes is due to defend British Title against Lynes by end of November.
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