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boxingcar
07-20-2008, 02:02 AM
take this into consideration...
as one dimensional , slow as he is...
Like or not...He still defeated the following fighters (some in their prime too)
Arlovski x 2
Monson
Vera
Ricco Rodriguez (when he was still in his prime)
McGee
Whitehead x 2
Rothwell
Nogueira recently beat him and so did couture...
All in all...As fucking boring as he is...you can't deny that he has ko power (he's slow yes but he does have ko power)...You also have to admit that he generally uses his size and weight to his advantage...+ he's got a good sprawl and some basics in wrestling...(watch Monson vs Sylvia...But again , sylvia's size helps him a lot too)...
So , whatever he's worth...He still won these fights...in a boring fashion but he did. He also gave Nog a great fight (yes , nog is way past prime but still...)...
It's a bit too easy to call him a "bum" now that fedor defeated him in 36 seconds.....He's no zulu. (though he treated him the same way)
Club Fighter
07-20-2008, 02:05 AM
Let's be honest. Tims Sylvia's a bum who doesn't have a style except "I'm bigger than you so you're gonna go to sleep." He's clumsy, he's sloppy, he's slow, he's boring and he had all of this on full display against a smaller Brandon Vera. What a snoozefest that was. The outcome of this fight was academic but shout out to Fedor for getting it done much quicker than I expected. Hopefully, we are now finally rid of the scourge that is Sylvia.
:nod
For the record, Sylvia was a bum waaaay before tonight. The man has absolutely no pedigree.
I give my hat off to Fedor, came in and destroyed tim in no time....Tim's no can and can be a handfull but Fedor used his lethal hands and brought him down quick......WOW....I didn't expect it to end that fast.
Polymath
07-20-2008, 02:07 AM
As fucking boring as he is
He was exciting until he fought AA. Those two sort of turned each other into very negative, safety first fighters and had a few dullish fights after the trilogy, Sylvia using his size and AA his athleticism to avoid too much engagement.
I like Sylvia though, still one of the best heaveyweights around imo.
He was exciting until he fought AA. Those two sort of turned each other into very negative, safety first fighters and had a few dullish fights after the trilogy, Sylvia using his size and AA his athleticism to avoid too much engagement.
I like Sylvia though, still one of the best heaveyweights around imo.
He hast lost 3 of 4 last fights and his last win was against a guy who just went LHW. Not to turn on Tim all of the suddan but a one dimensional fighter like him usually has a short shelf life. Just ask Matt Hughes
Club Fighter
07-20-2008, 02:15 AM
You make Sylvia a tad bit smaller and he loses all of those fights against decent competition that he won. No one wants to see somebody win because they're outsizing you (Wlad, anyone?). We wanna see people win cuz they're outskilling or outhearting you and after witnessing Tim tap out on that barely sunk in choke I'm 100% positive he's incapable of either.
:nod
sugarngold
07-20-2008, 02:16 AM
Fedor took care of business. That's what the best fighter in the world is supposed to do.
Club Fighter
07-20-2008, 02:18 AM
He hast lost 3 of 4 last fights and his last win was against a guy who just went LHW. Not to turn on Tim all of the suddan but a one dimensional fighter like him usually has a short shelf life. Just ask Matt Hughes
Likening Sylvia to Hughes is an affront to all good MMA practitioners everywhere. Now I may not like Hughes but he was a damn good fighter who had pedigree. Hughes is 5,000 x the fighter Sylvia could ever hope to be. Please rescind that statement.
ufoalf
07-20-2008, 02:19 AM
Fedor took care of business. That's what the best fighter in the world is supposed to do.
:deal
I like how one of the commentators said "Fedor is walking out like an excecutioner." Thats what he did, it was no fight it was an excecution.
Likening Sylvia to Hughes is an affront to all good MMA practitioners everywhere. Now I may not like Hughes but he was a damn good fighter who had pedigree. Hughes is 5,000 x the fighter Sylvia could ever hope to be. Please rescind that statement.
Ummmmm NOOO because Tim has fought the best...when Hughes has fought someone good like GSP he has been destroyed twice and when he fought Alves he got destroyed again....Hughes will not beat anybody ever again with any talent....his last good win was against Penn and he was getting schooled until Penn separted his rib. Hughes has been overrated for years and has just recently been exposed...but retards like you don't know any better.
Polymath
07-20-2008, 02:28 AM
He hast lost 3 of 4 last fights and his last win was against a guy who just went LHW. Not to turn on Tim all of the suddan but a one dimensional fighter like him usually has a short shelf life. Just ask Matt Hughes
To arguably the three greatest heaveyweights of all time, think thats worth a mention.
jimmie
07-20-2008, 02:46 AM
To beat a guy in 36 secounds who has one of MMAs deepest Heavyweight resumes is pretty damn impressive. Sylvia isnt even close to a bum if bums beat Vera,Ricco,Arlovski,Rothwell,Whitehead,Monson ETC then I wanna be a bum to.
ufoalf
07-20-2008, 02:53 AM
I never thought Sylvia is that great of a fighter(record says he's very solid tho) but 36 seconds...
sugarngold
07-20-2008, 02:55 AM
I always thought Sylvia was a bum - but I give him props for going after Fedor in his first fight out of the UFC.
Club Fighter
07-20-2008, 03:25 AM
Ummmmm NOOO because Tim has fought the best...when Hughes has fought someone good like GSP he has been destroyed twice and when he fought Alves he got destroyed again....Hughes will not beat anybody ever again with any talent....his last good win was against Penn and he was getting schooled until Penn separted his rib. Hughes has been overrated for years and has just recently been exposed...but retards like you don't know any better.
You're a complete numskull if you don't see why comparing Sylvia to Hughes is ill-advised. Hughes has fought better competition for longer than Sylvia with a much better success ratio without having to make excuses for being caught using steroids. Hughes actually has coordination and won his fights via skill as opposed to being much larger than his opposition. He beat St Pierre, Penn, Trigg, Newton, Sherk, Sakurai, etc. Why I'm even responding to your absolutely dumbfounding statement is beyond me. The fact that you used the term "exposed" tells me you're a fuckin' idiot like most who use that term. Anytime a person loses they're "exposed." Exposed??? You know what, you're exactly right. They're exposed to fuckin' stupid-ass comments from dumb-asses like you.
7 losses in 50 fights and the guy is "exposed."
Congratulations, sir. Take a bow. You've just won yourself the ESB dumbass of the night award.
scurlaruntings
07-20-2008, 04:52 AM
I never thought Sylvia is that great of a fighter(record says he's very solid tho) but 36 seconds.....is taking the piss. Fedor is too legit to quit. Thats the diffrence between PRIDE and the UFC:yep
You're a complete numskull if you don't see why comparing Sylvia to Hughes is ill-advised. Hughes has fought better competition for longer than Sylvia with a much better success ratio without having to make excuses for being caught using steroids. Hughes actually has coordination and won his fights via skill as opposed to being much larger than his opposition. He beat St Pierre, Penn, Trigg, Newton, Sherk, Sakurai, etc. Why I'm even responding to your absolutely dumbfounding statement is beyond me. The fact that you used the term "exposed" tells me you're a fuckin' idiot like most who use that term. Anytime a person loses they're "exposed." Exposed??? You know what, you're exactly right. They're exposed to fuckin' stupid-ass comments from dumb-asses like you.
7 losses in 50 fights and the guy is "exposed."
Congratulations, sir. Take a bow. You've just won yourself the ESB dumbass of the night award.
A guy who cannot throw a punch and can only wrestle and do take takedowns, takedowns or takedowns is vulnerable against anyone who can stop it. At this point Kos, Fitch and other stronger wrestlers beat him....He hasn't just lost he has been brutally beat down.
So take a bow retard....don't be surprised if Serra can get by him.
scurlaruntings
07-20-2008, 11:44 AM
You're a complete numskull if you don't see why comparing Sylvia to Hughes is ill-advised. Hughes has fought better competition for longer than Sylvia with a much better success ratio without having to make excuses for being caught using steroids. Hughes actually has coordination and won his fights via skill as opposed to being much larger than his opposition. He beat St Pierre, Penn, Trigg, Newton, Sherk, Sakurai, etc. Why I'm even responding to your absolutely dumbfounding statement is beyond me. The fact that you used the term "exposed" tells me you're a fuckin' idiot like most who use that term. Anytime a person loses they're "exposed." Exposed??? You know what, you're exactly right. They're exposed to fuckin' stupid-ass comments from dumb-asses like you.
7 losses in 50 fights and the guy is "exposed."
Congratulations, sir. Take a bow. You've just won yourself the ESB dumbass of the night award.Man calm the fuck down this isnt sherdog. Hughes was exposed. He was exposed as not evolving with the sport. Thats not to take anything away from his achievements but the facts remain that when he lost he lost brutally and to fighters who were far more versatile than himself in recent years.
scurlaruntings
07-20-2008, 11:56 AM
sylvia is a fag in the closet!!!! big dumb and fucking stupid, I could kick his ass at 147 fat fuck should go home and rest his hurt ass after fedor fucked it!!!Sherdog is the other way. Get that juvenile crap out of here.
not who, where and its where you should be. now type it into your addressbar and go.
I was tanked up last night. Almost didn't see either Fedor/Silvia or Silva/Irvin stepped outside for a minute. Does Irvin have a glassjaw or was that just a perfectly placed punch? It ended pretty much the way I thought just alot quicker. I'd like to see Silva fight someone top 10 or less at 205 see what he can do. Funny thing was Silva was still the bigger guy, hows that? Crazy. Fedor did what he should have and I'm very happy about that, UFC fanboys need to stop with there hate for this guy I just don't get it. What can you really say about this guy, a beast, just a fabulous fighter too bad for the UFC they didn't land him. The greatest HW to step into the ring ever, and most Americans will never get to know him until he is old and retired. Hopefully for him this fight will get him some recognition, although I don't think he particularly cares for fame in the states. Anyway I'm sobered up a bit now and now I can start to process what the hell happened last night.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
07-20-2008, 12:34 PM
Ummmmm NOOO because Tim has fought the best...when Hughes has fought someone good like GSP he has been destroyed twice and when he fought Alves he got destroyed again....Hughes will not beat anybody ever again with any talent....his last good win was against Penn and he was getting schooled until Penn separted his rib. Hughes has been overrated for years and has just recently been exposed...but retards like you don't know any better.
Hughes beat GSP and Penn. Two of the greatest fighters out there today. Let alone, he dominated most of the guys in his own era.
jimmie
07-20-2008, 03:13 PM
..is taking the piss. Fedor is too legit to quit. Thats the diffrence between PRIDE and the UFC:yep
Ok so Sylvia quits vs Fedor big whoop I remember the great Shogun tapping out to Forrest Griffin. I remember Liddell ending the Light Heavyweight debate vs Wanderlei. So dont start this UFC vs Pride shit was Pride more entertaining probablly but UFC has had a the advantage in UFC vs Pride matchups. You know what the hell am I even talking about Prides dead and UFC is UFC everybody there is a UFC guy so I dont wanna hear no more bullshit like this unless its Pride remembering threads which wouldnt be bad.
scurlaruntings
07-20-2008, 04:12 PM
Ok so Sylvia quits vs Fedor big whoop I remember the great Shogun tapping out to Forrest Griffin. I remember Liddell ending the Light Heavyweight debate vs Wanderlei. So dont start this UFC vs Pride shit was Pride more entertaining probablly but UFC has had a the advantage in UFC vs Pride matchups. You know what the hell am I even talking about Prides dead and UFC is UFC everybody there is a UFC guy so I dont wanna hear no more bullshit like this unless its Pride remembering threads which wouldnt be bad.What you the law round here? Wind your fucking neck in Jimbo your wound up way to tight. The post was tongue in cheek. If i want to post a thousand PRIDE vs UFC threads thats EXACTLY what im going to do.
I really don't like Pride Vs. UFC threads if you ask me they are just about even as far as fighters go, but Prides shows where just SSOOOOOO much better. Alright I'm done lets not change the subject.
Beebs
07-20-2008, 11:39 PM
Sylvia was a completely legitimate opponent
Beebs
07-20-2008, 11:42 PM
He hast lost 3 of 4 last fights and his last win was against a guy who just went LHW. Not to turn on Tim all of the suddan but a one dimensional fighter like him usually has a short shelf life. Just ask Matt Hughes
The most successful title fights in the history of the sport is "short"?
Absurd.
Nobody, ever, has had a longer run at the top than Hughes.
The most successful title fights in the history of the sport is "short"?
Absurd.
Nobody, ever, has had a longer run at the top than Hughes.
I actually didn't mean it to word like that, I was loaded when I wrote on Sat night, but I did mean that A one dimensional fighter is more then beatable.
Hughes beat GSP and Penn. Two of the greatest fighters out there today. Let alone, he dominated most of the guys in his own era.
I can't take away what Hughes did...and he did beat Penn(but was losing before Penn gassed/rib injury and beat a young GSP in his second fight in the Octagon. That being said he beat almost everyone in front of him during his era. But in that era being a good wrestler and having great strenth and cardio was what it took, There is no way he survives with the new crop of WW's. He has almost zero standup ability.
Club Fighter
06-14-2009, 06:34 PM
I wonder if any of the ESB sages wish to retract any statements they made in this thread. As I said damn near a year ago in this very thread, Sylvia is a bum who managed to obtain his victories by virtue of his size. He is not skilled or a worthy adversary for anybody of comparable size who is even vaguely familiar with any martial art, be he 19 or 90.
Below you have some of ESB's most prominent and pronounced MMA aficionados giving you their thoughts regarding one Timothy Sylvia.
It's a bit too easy to call him a "bum" now that fedor defeated him in 36 seconds.....He's no zulu. (though he treated him the same way)
Tim's no can.
I like Sylvia though, still one of the best heaveyweights around imo.
To beat a guy in 36 secounds who has one of MMAs deepest Heavyweight resumes is pretty damn impressive. Sylvia isnt even close to a bum if bums beat Vera,Ricco,Arlovski,Rothwell,Whitehead,Monson ETC then I wanna be a bum to.
Sylvia was a completely legitimate opponent
. . . for Ray Mercer in an MMA bout at age 48.
Credit to Ray Mercer, whose stock should rise dramatically in the heavyweight rankings after vanquishing the completely legitimate ex-UFC champion in under 10 seconds using MMA rules. I know, I know, you're probably asking yourself, "Is this the same Ray Mercer that I saw lose to Kimbo Slice? The Kimbo Slice who I refer to as a bum/fraud who will lose against any real MMA practitioner." Yep. That's him. The Ray Mercer who lost to the "fraud," yet beat the decorated and skilled ex-UFC champion (the one who isn't a bum) in under 10 seconds using MMA rules as a boxer, not a mixed martial artist. Please, gentlemen, explain that to me. I'm all ears.
Gentlemen, Sylvia's horrible. There's no two ways about it. Accept it. I know by calling Sylvia a bum it almost delegitimizes the whole sport of MMA with him being able to become champion and all but even the sun shines on a dog's ass sometimes.
ufoalf
06-14-2009, 06:37 PM
I never thought Sylvia is that great of a fighter(record says he's very solid tho) but 36 seconds...
:D
All I have to now is...
9 seconds :lol:
Tuffnutz
06-14-2009, 07:02 PM
:lol:
Both fighters had a lot of known problems and issue going into this "fight" but no matter what, this is a great win for boxing and a bad loss for MMA!
:lol:
Both fighters had a lot of known problems and issue going into this "fight" but no matter what, this is a great win for boxing and a bad loss for MMA!
I'm happy for Mercer but guys like you making it a boxing vs mma thing just piss me off. You Tuffnutz, you are a twat of the highest caliber.
Why is it that fans of every other sport don't whine and cry about one another except boxing fans and MMA fans?
The thing that the boxing only fans on this site don't seem to understand is that the MMA fans on this site actually really love boxing too.
You guys can come to the mma forum and see for yourself that pretty much nobody, except the occasional troll, trashes on boxing. So why do you guys feel the need to come in after EVERY big fight (whether its a boxer involved or not) and trash the sport?
Boinko
06-15-2009, 01:13 AM
The thing that the boxing only fans on this site don't seem to understand is that the MMA fans on this site actually really love boxing too.
You guys can come to the mma forum and see for yourself that pretty much nobody, except the occasional troll, trashes on boxing. So why do you guys feel the need to come in after EVERY big fight (whether its a boxer involved or not) and trash the sport?
Well said.
If these boxing only fans want to argue with MMA only fans, this isn't the place to do it. They should go over to Sherdog if that's their motive.
I get just as pissed at MMA only fans who bash boxing. And as you have pointed out, the MMA fans on here are boxing fans as well. We have no interest in bashing boxing.
In fact, it's really easy for a boxing only fan to avoid talking about MMA altogether. Just don't come into the MMA section.
But of course, the urge to troll is too strong for some, so they have to come in and bash a sport they supposedly don't care at all about. Very odd.
I'm an MMA and boxing fan and I don't go to sherdog! For me this forum is the only place I can go and for the most part NOT have to deal with morons but its to the point now that I can't even come here anymore after an event because people are total fuckwads and are dicks just to be dicks. Anyway I guess the only thing I can do is after every event just wait a day or two before showing up.
boxingcar
06-15-2009, 06:28 AM
I wonder if any of the ESB sages wish to retract any statements they made in this thread. As I said damn near a year ago in this very thread, Sylvia is a bum who managed to obtain his victories by virtue of his size. He is not skilled or a worthy adversary for anybody of comparable size who is even vaguely familiar with any martial art, be he 19 or 90.
Below you have some of ESB's most prominent and pronounced MMA aficionados giving you their thoughts regarding one Timothy Sylvia.
. . . for Ray Mercer in an MMA bout at age 48.
Credit to Ray Mercer, whose stock should rise dramatically in the heavyweight rankings after vanquishing the completely legitimate ex-UFC champion in under 10 seconds using MMA rules. I know, I know, you're probably asking yourself, "Is this the same Ray Mercer that I saw lose to Kimbo Slice? The Kimbo Slice who I refer to as a bum/fraud who will lose against any real MMA practitioner." Yep. That's him. The Ray Mercer who lost to the "fraud," yet beat the decorated and skilled ex-UFC champion (the one who isn't a bum) in under 10 seconds using MMA rules as a boxer, not a mixed martial artist. Please, gentlemen, explain that to me. I'm all ears.
Gentlemen, Sylvia's horrible. There's no two ways about it. Accept it. I know by calling Sylvia a bum it almost delegitimizes the whole sport of MMA with him being able to become champion and all but even the sun shines on a dog's ass sometimes.
I wonder if any of the ESB sages wish to retract any statements they made in this thread. As I said damn near a year ago in this very thread, Sylvia is a bum who managed to obtain his victories by virtue of his size. He is not skilled or a worthy adversary for anybody of comparable size who is even vaguely familiar with any martial art, be he 19 or 90.
Below you have some of ESB's most prominent and pronounced MMA aficionados giving you their thoughts regarding one Timothy Sylvia.
. . . for Ray Mercer in an MMA bout at age 48.
Credit to Ray Mercer, whose stock should rise dramatically in the heavyweight rankings after vanquishing the completely legitimate ex-UFC champion in under 10 seconds using MMA rules. I know, I know, you're probably asking yourself, "Is this the same Ray Mercer that I saw lose to Kimbo Slice? The Kimbo Slice who I refer to as a bum/fraud who will lose against any real MMA practitioner." Yep. That's him. The Ray Mercer who lost to the "fraud," yet beat the decorated and skilled ex-UFC champion (the one who isn't a bum) in under 10 seconds using MMA rules as a boxer, not a mixed martial artist. Please, gentlemen, explain that to me. I'm all ears.
Gentlemen, Sylvia's horrible. There's no two ways about it. Accept it. I know by calling Sylvia a bum it almost delegitimizes the whole sport of MMA with him being able to become champion and all but even the sun shines on a dog's ass sometimes.
I wonder if any of the ESB sages wish to retract any statements they made in this thread.
I won't. and here's why...
Him being sparked by Mercer in 9 seconds. Doesn't change the fact that he defeated those guys in the past. DOES IT ? It doesn't erases the past right ?
OR Tyson is a bum. And shouldn't be ranked anywhere , in any top 10 GOAT list. Now maybe you're wondering. What in the hell does Mike Tyson have to do with this ? Not much.
But , if i follow your logic. Tyson was owned by McBride.
McBride is an embarrassement of a boxer. But since he defeated Tyson , it nullifies all of Tyson's past victories.
See where i'm getting at ?
1 - Sylvia weighted in at 310 lbs for that fight. (his norm is 260 lbs)
2 - the fight was originally supposed to be under boxing rules
3 - Sylvia wanted to outstrike Mercer. (big mistake)
This combination of things led to this disaster.
If he would've fought intelligently...Like that bum , Kimbo slice (who just had to shoot for the legs and finish Mercer in a few seconds)....
None of that would've happened.
So no Sylvia is not a bum. But he's a fucking stupid as hell. At least he certainly was in that fight. If your gameplan is to outbox a vet boxer under mma rules , you're an absolute moron in my book. His pride got in the way and he paid for it.
boxingcar
06-15-2009, 06:36 AM
:lol:
Both fighters had a lot of known problems and issue going into this "fight" but no matter what, this is a great win for boxing and a bad loss for MMA!
No , it's a bad loss for the ufc. (again) he used to be their champion. (ex-ufc champion). When fedor finished his ass in less time than it took him to beat Hong man choi.... that , already was a huge embarrassement.
Reason why it's not a bad loss for mma is because it doesn't reflect the entire sport. Kimbo , a guy who's not even ranked owned mercer easily...was it bad for boxing ? fuck no. So why is this one bad for mma ?
Because sylvia used to be a ufc champ ?
But if that's a solid reason...How about mercer ? a living boxing legend , owned by a nobody , streetfighter ?
I personally think it hurts more Sylvia's & ufc's hw division reputation. (not that it was particularly any good to begin with)
boxingcar
06-15-2009, 06:43 AM
Credit to Ray Mercer, whose stock should rise dramatically in the heavyweight rankings after vanquishing the completely legitimate ex-UFC champion in under 10 seconds using MMA rules. I know, I know, you're probably asking yourself, "Is this the same Ray Mercer that I saw lose to Kimbo Slice? The Kimbo Slice who I refer to as a bum/fraud who will lose against any real MMA practitioner." Yep. That's him. The Ray Mercer who lost to the "fraud," yet beat the decorated and skilled ex-UFC champion (the one who isn't a bum) in under 10 seconds using MMA rules as a boxer, not a mixed martial artist. Please, gentlemen, explain that to me. I'm all ears.
Gentlemen, Sylvia's horrible. There's no two ways about it. Accept it. I know by calling Sylvia a bum it almost delegitimizes the whole sport of MMA with him being able to become champion and all but even the sun shines on a dog's ass sometimes.
It's not. Because this fight wasn't supposed to be under mma rules to begin with.
Please, gentlemen, explain that to me. I'm all ears..
Because the unranked bum , had he presence of mind , to simply take Mercer on the ground. How difficult is that to understand ? Sylvia didn't. He was arrogant and deluded enough to try beating Mercer at his own game. (tha originally was his intention)
This loss is an embarrassement yes , but still doesn't erases the past.
and if it does...then use the same logic with Tyson / McBride...(see my previous post)
scurlaruntings
06-15-2009, 08:53 AM
To beat a guy in 36 secounds who has one of MMAs deepest Heavyweight resumes is pretty damn impressive. Sylvia isnt even close to a bum if bums beat Vera,Ricco,Arlovski,Rothwell,Whitehead,Monson ETC then I wanna be a bum to.Exactly. I cant believe guys are already quick to write Fedors victory off when he took care of business that quick against a former UFC champion. Its absolutely idiotic.
scurlaruntings
06-15-2009, 08:55 AM
I personally think it hurts more Sylvia's & ufc's hw division reputation. (not that it was particularly any good to begin with)Bingo :thumbsup
After all these years the UFC's heavyweight division is still a mess. Its ironic to think a 2nd tier guy like Gilbert Yvel or Overeem could probably walk into the UFC and easily become their champ.
achillesthegreat
06-15-2009, 09:09 AM
Sylvia is a weak fighter but he has size and has achieved much like someone like Valuev has. However size is his advantage and he used it well but in a weakish division. Prime Cro and Fedor were in Pride, as were many other fighters. Sylvia has lost to the best fighters he faced.
Even now, the heavyweight division may be incredibly weak but look strong because there is a void. Much like when Jones got old, Tarver and Johnson replaced him but neither were ATGs despite building really good records.
At the moment it could be an old Nog, Couture and Mir, along with a yet to be exposed talent in Brock.
The real saviour could be Fedor but he isn't in the division.
Hopefully some young quality heavyweights can come through. Hopefully Lesnar is actually really good and might compete against Fedor. I thin kthe heavyweight divison is still too fragmented. Arlovski, Rogers, Fedor, Barnett in one place. Nog, Mir, Couture, Lesnar in another place.
Tuffnutz
06-15-2009, 09:33 AM
I'm happy for Mercer but guys like you making it a boxing vs mma thing just piss me off. You Tuffnutz, you are a twat of the highest caliber.
Why is it that fans of every other sport don't whine and cry about one another except boxing fans and MMA fans?
The thing that the boxing only fans on this site don't seem to understand is that the MMA fans on this site actually really love boxing too.
You guys can come to the mma forum and see for yourself that pretty much nobody, except the occasional troll, trashes on boxing. So why do you guys feel the need to come in after EVERY big fight (whether its a boxer involved or not) and trash the sport?
I am an MMA fan, dipshit! :patsch
This shit is pretty fucking funny though. :lol:
It's time that the boxing nuthuggers had some fun with the MMA nuthuggers, because they've taken more shit from MMA nuhuggers and there is no nuthugger worse than an MMA nuthugger. :lol:
Now, chill the feck out! :rasta
sitiyzal
06-15-2009, 09:51 AM
Rematch!
boxingcar
06-15-2009, 10:59 AM
Rematch!
lol no need. If Sylvia is fucking dumb enough not take the fight to his advantage (on the ground...) , he's fucking hopeless. Even a nobody like Kimbo Slice was prepared for it. He just had to follow basic simple instructions from Bas rutten.
Kimbo also should've been owned in no time but it didn't happened because Rutten insisted on a specific gameplan without taking any risks.
Sylvia vs Mercer showed us what we already all know...don't fuck with a boxer at his own game.
You know what truely would've been embarrassing for the sport though...Mercer finishing Sylvia with something unpredictable...Like a gogoplata or a kimura... Now that! would've been the icing on the cake.
scurlaruntings
06-15-2009, 11:04 AM
You know what truely would've been embarrassing for the sport though...Mercer finishing Sylvia with something unpredictable...Like a gogoplata or a kimura... Now that! would've been the icing on the cake.
:lol: That fight reminds me alot of Cain vs Kongo. Kongo is such an intellectual retard that he actually neglected his striking and rather than keep his distance elected to wrestle with a wrestler and got pounded to fuck. Complete tool.
boxingcar
06-15-2009, 11:06 AM
I am an MMA fan, dipshit! :patsch
This shit is pretty fucking funny though. :lol:
It's time that the boxing nuthuggers had some fun with the MMA nuthuggers, because they've taken more shit from MMA nuhuggers and there is no nuthugger worse than an MMA nuthugger. :lol:
Now, chill the feck out! :rasta
It's not true. Boxing nuthuggers are just as deluded as mma nuthuggers. this like 360 fanboys vs PS3 fanboys...just enjoy your damn fucking console instead of bashing the other system...same goes for sports in general.
Most fans are hypocrites...As a fan of both sports..i'm the first to admit that a huge majority of mma fighters wouldn't stand a chance in hell in boxing...nor would they in mma IF...and only IF the said fighter is stupid enough to strike....
You know what this reminds me of ?
Kongo vs Cain....
Watching this fight...you're wondering why in the fuck does Kongo (a striker who's groundgame is absolutely pathetic) , tried to take Cain on the ground a couple of times...Why ? He sabotaged all his chances..
boxingcar
06-15-2009, 11:08 AM
:lol: That fight reminds me alot of Cain vs Kongo. Kongo is such an intellectual retard that he actually neglected his striking and rather than keep his distance elected to wrestle with a wrestler and got pounded to fuck. Complete tool.
exactly :good
scurlaruntings
06-15-2009, 11:08 AM
Look at my post above BoxingCar :-)
Rico Spadafora
06-15-2009, 11:57 AM
Sylvia is a Glass Jawed joke. It speaks volumes about how bad the people are that he beat. Arlovski is another Glass Jawed joke.
achillesthegreat
06-15-2009, 01:54 PM
Remember - Fedor did it first.
People are saying the same thing about Floyd not beating guys like Pac did but Floyd did it first.
In a fight these guys are unknown quantities. It takes time to truly find out a guys chin, stamina etc Usually, these things are assessed in hindsight. Fedor had to assess these issues while being attacked. It's a whole different ball game.
When Arlovski came in with a flying knee, Fedor had a choice. Play defence or take a calculated risk. He took that risk and won. It's like when SRL beat Hearns. SRL found him out. He did it first and thus he gets much more credit for his win than anyone else.
You can't give guys the same credit for beating Zab as Floyd got. Floyd spotted the flaw and made it public. Then guys started treating Zab as a front runner and beating him more regularly.
Fedor showed you what can happen to Arlovski and Sylvias chin if you dare to throw that bomb on it. He gave these guys the blueprint and as the architect his credit is more than others.
Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
Rangersfan1982
06-15-2009, 04:52 PM
Fedor has the capability to make any one look like a bum. Hope he comes to the UFC.
MaliSlamusrex
06-16-2009, 07:32 AM
Sylvia is a good fighter, i can accept the Fedor loss, he simply got KO'd, the loss to Mercer is just an embarrassment, and a lesson to all MMA fighters who try and have a boxing match against a boxer.
Is Sylvia a bum.. no, but he is stupid, it would be obvious to most people that if you are a mma fighter, fighting a boxer is going to be tough, especially if he is a former HW champion.
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