John Ruiz is coming back to save boxing!!!

[Vincent Gottschalk]

My dream fight Wladimir Klitschko vs John Ruiz might happen after all!!!:happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy

[jyuza]

:scaredas:

[1-Ton]

To save boxing from what? Insomnia?

[diamondDave]

Klitschko would destory Ruiz! It wouldn't even be close. There is not really one thing that Ruiz does that Klitschko can't do better.

[pioterbezkitu]

Klitschko would destory Ruiz! It wouldn't even be close. There is not really one thing that Ruiz does that Klitschko can't do better.

Thre is one - hug :hey

[Vincent Gottschalk]

Oh I am so thrilled!!!:happy Who's next for John to earn a title shot?:huh Serguei Liakhovich? Davaryll Williamson? Vladimir Virchis? Mike Mollo?

[rodney]

American heavyweights suck.
Proof.
Is that someone is canvassing for cheerleaders for John Ruiz.
They are that desperate.
Done.

[jonesjrp4p1]

My dream fight Wladimir Klitschko vs John Ruiz might happen after all!!!:happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy

i hope your not serious

[magnificentdave]

I'm not really sure who is worse about holding after watching Klitschko vs Peter. They're both boring, but atleast Ruiz has a chin.

[Vincent Gottschalk]

Oh come on don't you want too see Wladimir's straight right or short left hook land on Ruiz;)

[Darien]

I'm not really sure who is worse about holding after watching Klitschko vs Peter. They're both boring, but atleast Ruiz has a chin.
At least Klitschko can punch.

[Butch Coolidge]

Oh well why not? Ruiz is a master of not only frustrating his opponents but at also frustrating the audience. In a sadistic kind of way I enjoy watching Ruiz work. It's kind of like watching guys who think they're super suave step in a big gob of sticky bubblegum when they're fighting Ruiz.:hey

[diamondDave]

Thre is one - hug :hey


Good point-he is also better at complaining to the ref

[DamonD]

If he wants to come back and possibly get his face punched in, who am I to complain?

[Butch Coolidge]

I'd rather watch The Sultan fight Ruiz than watch The Sultan fight Holyfield.

[See Me Flow]

My dream fight Wladimir Klitschko vs John Ruiz might happen after all.

I would laugh my ass off if Ruiz came out with a win against Klitschko. I would never let Klitschko dolts off the hook. :D

[Zakman]

Good point-he is also better at complaining to the ref

Don't forget faking low blows - Ruiz is the MASTER of dramatic acting while on the floor to force bogus low blow calls to "win" fights.

Wlad could be in trouble if he goes to the body!!:lol:

[jonesjrp4p1]

Oh come on don't you want too see Wladimir's straight right or short left hook land on Ruiz;)

oh i thought you were cheering for ruiz.....id love to see wlad dispose ruiz for good....he would figure out some complaint though

[Odo]

My dream fight Wladimir Klitschko vs John Ruiz might happen after all!!!:happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy

Haha! That match would probably be a nightmare for most of us here,vincent!

[vonBanditos]

I'm actually very interested in a Klitschko vs Ruiz fight. It's perhaps the only fight with Ruiz that I'd want to see.

[K0NPHL1C7]

Don't forget faking low blows - Ruiz is the MASTER of dramatic acting while on the floor to force bogus low blow calls to "win" fights.

Wlad could be in trouble if he goes to the body!!:lol:

And because you have spent the better part of the last 10 years focusing on Ruiz's nutsack, you know exactly where "low" is on his body.

I would pick Wlad to win this fight by UD, but you can't rule out Ruiz. The Ruiz that fought Valuev and Chagaev fought very well, and held less than Wlad has in the last few fights.

[Loufatski]

Klitschko would destory Ruiz! It wouldn't even be close. There is not really one thing that Ruiz does that Klitschko can't do better.

If they let Ruiz hold Klitschko as much as they allowed Ruiz to hold Golota then it could make for a very, very frustrating night for Wlad. Add a few hard punches to Wlad's chin and who knows what might happen. Although, I'd still bet on Wlad over Ruiz.

[diamondDave]

If they let Ruiz hold Klitschko as much as they allowed Ruiz to hold Golota then it could make for a very, very frustrating night for Wlad. Add a few hard punches to Wlad's chin and who knows what might happen. Although, I'd still bet on Wlad over Ruiz.

Very true...that Golota-Ruiz fight was a travesty of officiating. How any self respecting judge could try and say Ruiz won that fight is beyond me.

[Zakman]

And because you have spent the better part of the last 10 years focusing on Ruiz's nutsack.....

On the contrary, my friend, YOU seem to be the one who has a strong attachment to Ruiz's "nutsack." I believe that's why they call you folks, "nuthuggers," no??:lol:

[K0NPHL1C7]

On the contrary, my friend, YOU seem to be the one who has a strong attachment to Ruiz's "nutsack." I believe that's why they call you folks, "nuthuggers," no??:lol:

Well I'm not the one claiming to know his groin area well enough to tell when he has been tapped on the balls or not. Given the piss-poor camera angles, you must have a pretty good map of his cock to know for certian those blows didn't hurt his Jimmy.

[Zakman]

Well I'm not the one claiming to know his groin area well enough to tell when he has been tapped on the balls or not. Given the piss-poor camera angles, you must have a pretty good map of his cock to know for certian those blows didn't hurt his Jimmy.

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

You don't need a road map to see that borderline shots, or shots nowhere near somebody's groin (like the Thunder fight), aren't close to the nutsack.:-(

Besides, you once ADMITED that Ruiz overacted to force low blow calls, but tried to excuse it on the grounds that "everybody did it." :hey

C'mon - the guy delivers academic award-worthy performances on the canvas. It's one of his best "skills!!!" :nod

[K0NPHL1C7]

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

You don't need a road map to see that borderline shots, or shots nowhere near somebody's groin (like the Thunder fight), aren't close to the nutsack.:-(

Besides, you once ADMITED that Ruiz overacted to force low blow calls, but tried to excuse it on the grounds that "everybody did it." :hey

C'mon - the guy delivers academic award-worthy performances on the canvas. It's one of his best "skills!!!" :nod

I never said he did, I said that only he can know if those shots were low or not, others can only assume, which is why most fighters will overreact to low blows because they know the ref will give them the benifit of the doubt. Untill they have sensors in their nutsacks(calm down man, I know it excites you) this will be the way of the sport.

[oblate]

My dream fight Wladimir Klitschko vs John Ruiz might happen after all!!!:happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy
i hope that the only reason thats a dream fight for you is because you want to see ruiz get ktfo and not because your a ruiz fan.

[Zakman]

I never said he did, I said that only he can know if those shots were low or not, others can only assume, which is why most fighters will overreact to low blows because they know the ref will give them the benifit of the doubt. Untill they have sensors in their nutsacks(calm down man, I know it excites you) this will be the way of the sport.

If you could patent that device, you just might be able to make some cash.:yep:good

[Bigcat]

Ruiz is an awkward fighter to beat on a good day, he may struggle against Klitschko but is a lot better than Ray Austin. Brewster will get beaten in the way he was headding in the first fight.. Klitschko is Very good, but Ruiz has proven himself competent in top fights before now.. Ruslin and Nikolay beat him but they are very worthy champs or Hard to beat (Vaulev) Dimensionally. Ruiz Is deceptive , Able to beat Wlad..? Maybe .. If he pushes the Russian out of his comfort zone.. IMO.. Ruiz will not regain his past form, and probably never reach a fight with KLitschko.. But returning to the rng may show us how tough he is..

Ask Kirk Johnson..

[K0NPHL1C7]

If you could patent that device, you just might be able to make some cash.:yep:good

I'm wearing one right now actually... :)

[Butch Coolidge]

The first part of the jab and grab is the jab and Ruiz does not want to be in a jabbing contest with Klitschko.

[Zakman]

Dimensionally. Ruiz Is deceptive....

Ask Kirk Johnson..
Ruiz is deceptive alright - nobody can deceive a referee by faking low blows like he does! The Johnson fight is indeed a classic example of Ruiz's deceptive "techniques.":yep

[Bigcat]

This a good point..

But one thing Ruiz is capable of is great combination punching when the opponent is in range.. (Watch the Ballard fight and the Anis fight..) Wlad likes to hook from close range.. Ruiz can be very dangerous in spurts..

Wlad can beat Ruiz, But it is possible that (like Ross, Pannell, Brewster, Sanders) Ruiz has a few of the technical tools it takes to make WK look very sketchy..

Good food for thought..

Although , i am a bit tired of hearing about Ruiz coming back.

Its about time he relaxed and gave up boxing... He did a few god things..

Time to enjoy his health.........

[IntentionalButt]

no thanks.

[Bigcat]

Ruiz is deceptive alright - nobody can deceive a referee by faking low blows like he does! The Johnson fight is indeed a classic example of Ruiz's deceptive "techniques.":yep

Good tough champions do what it takes to win..

Good bad or ugly..

Ruiz indeed was a winner and a very unlikely champion..

After the Tua KO loss..
Who would have thought he would have done a lot of the things he went on to do years later..

Who became Champ?? Tua or Ruiz ????

Its strange isn't it..:good

[Max Molyneux]

Don't forget faking low blows - Ruiz is the MASTER of dramatic acting while on the floor to force bogus low blow calls to "win" fights.

Wlad could be in trouble if he goes to the body!!:lol:

Well Ruiz didn't fake anything Vs Valuev and Chagaev.

[Dostoevsky]

I respect anyone who steps into the ring as he can potentially be seriously injured or killed........................but Ruiz can go and get fucked. :twisted:

[ApatheticLeader]

Oh well why not? Ruiz is a master of not only frustrating his opponents but at also frustrating the audience. In a sadistic kind of way I enjoy watching Ruiz work. It's kind of like watching guys who think they're super suave step in a big gob of sticky bubblegum when they're fighting Ruiz.:hey
:lol:

[Zakman]

Good tough champions do what it takes to win..

Good bad or ugly..

Ruiz indeed was a winner and a very unlikely champion..

I don't buy that at all, "good champ do what it takes to win." It's exactly that kind of "anything goes" mentality that is ruining this sport. Ruiz for years violated the rules against excessive holding, faked low blows, and when that didn't work, relied on King's influence to get him some favorable scoring.

Call me old fashioned, but I believe that there is just something wrong with a limited fighter like Ruiz being allowed to violate the rules with impugnity to make up for the fact that he didn't have world class ability. That's just wrong - and it's symptomatic of everything that's wrong with boxing today.

Oh, and Ruiz wasn't a "champion" - he was a belt-holder. There's a difference.

[Butch Coolidge]

Ruiz is a useful fighter. Even if you hate his style he is still one of the more capable heavyweights around. I would rather see him fight Ibragimov than see Ibragimov fight Holyfield. Want to proof an up and coming fighter is any good? Let him fight Ruiz.

Another heavyweight who is frequently overlooked is Chris Byrd. I don't think he'll beat Wladimir Klitschko, ever, Klitschko is just all wrong for him, but vs Chagaev or Ibragimov it could be interesting. Strange that those three are all southpaws.

[IntentionalButt]

Ruiz is a useful fighter. Even if you hate his style he is still one of the more capable heavyweights around. I would rather see him fight Ibragimov than see Ibragimov fight Holyfield. Want to proof an up and coming fighter is any good? Let him fight Ruiz.

Another heavyweight who is frequently overlooked is Chris Byrd. I don't think he'll beat Wladimir Klitschko, ever, Klitschko is just all wrong for him, but vs Chagaev or Ibragimov it could be interesting. Strange that those three are all southpaws.
Apples and oranges, Byrd has more talent in his left nut than Ruiz has ever had. Being difficult to score a victory over is not laudable in its own right and does not make one a good fighter.

[Zakman]

Apples and oranges, Byrd has more talent in his left nut than Ruiz has ever had.

Exactly. And he wins fights WITHIN the rules, and usually without the help of his promoter.

The scandal of Ruiz holding a title belt derives precisely from his utter lack of legitimate boxing ability. That such a talentless palooka could hold a title based on cheating and corruption should be offensive to ALL fans of this sport.

[AJAX]

Is he really comin back? or is Vincent just getting wet over thinking about Ruiz?

[Butch Coolidge]

Apples and oranges, Byrd has more talent in his left nut than Ruiz has ever had. Being difficult to score a victory over is not laudable in its own right and does not make one a good fighter.

not a PPV blockbuster but still a difficult test for the untested.

Is David Rodriguez any good? Not sure, have him fight Ruiz and see if he can handle Ruiz's style or have him fight Byrd and see if he doesn't get tied into knots trying to put a glove on Byrd.

Useful and exciting aren't the same thing.

[Zakman]

Is he really comin back? or is Vincent just getting wet over thinking about Ruiz?

I really wonder whether he actually has such a hard-on for all these crappy HWs, or whether he's putting us all on.

Either way, it does get discussion started.:yep

[Rock0052]

Haha! That match would probably be a nightmare for most of us here,vincent!
Try dream come true. I don't want "Mr. Bad Touch" Ruiz to retire with another bullshit excuse of a robbery, I want him to get knocked the fuck out, and Wlad's just the guy to do it.

[Jennifer Love Hewitt]

Ruiz!

[IntentionalButt]

Ruiz!

No!

[El Bombasto]

Good point-he is also better at complaining to the ref

and faking low blows

[IntentionalButt]

and faking low blows

and helping Samoan New Zealanders make ATG highlight clips.

[See Me Flow]

Question: Despite whatever dislikes you have against Ruiz, if he were to step in the ring with Klitschko would you give him the recognition for never ducking an opponent?

[Hex-One]

My dream fight Wladimir Klitschko vs John Ruiz might happen after all!!!:happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy CLINCHING ALOT!:lol:






:yikes

[Heavyrighthand]

you can't rule out Ruiz. The Ruiz that fought Valuev and Chagaev fought very well

He did.

To his credit, Ruiz did barely lose two close decisions against Valuev and Chagaev. Even in his recent losses, Ruiz has not really bean beat to hell or severly outboxed. The current WBA titleholder barely decisioned him, and some even say that Ruiz BEAT Valuev.

So as distasteful as watching him fight is, Ruiz is still a very deserving fighter who can hold his own with just about any of them.

[IntentionalButt]

Question: Despite whatever dislikes you have against Ruiz, if he were to step in the ring with Klitschko would you give him the recognition for never ducking an opponent?
Sure, but that doesn't count for everything. That's like saying "Sure, he was a child molester...but he never cheated on his taxes!"

[Jennifer Love Hewitt]

No!

YES!

[C.J.Rock]

If they let Ruiz hold Klitschko as much as they allowed Ruiz to hold Golota then it could make for a very, very frustrating night for Wlad. Add a few hard punches to Wlad's chin and who knows what might happen. Although, I'd still bet on Wlad over Ruiz.

What about holding & hitting headbutting elbowing etc that Ruiz uncle Joe Cortez let him get away with while at the same time "seeing" practically every good body shot Kirk Johnson threw as low blows. Watch that fight in slow motion 5 of the blows called low by joe cortez were legit punches including the final one that KO's Ruiz
It was a travesty Cortez fell for the scam artist

[IntentionalButt]

john ruiz saving boxing????? you know what I think I rather let boxing DIE !!!!!!:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: seriously. the day that man unifies the HW division is the day i cancel my hbo and showtime subscriptions and start religiously following the 'sport' of Texas Hold'Em.

[C Money]

Ruiz, help boxing???

That would start with RETIREMENT!!!!!!!!!!:happy

Wlad would fucking KILL HIM!! Which is the only reason 98% of fans would tune in to watch it.

[Zakman]

What about holding & hitting headbutting elbowing etc that Ruiz uncle Joe Cortez let him get away with while at the same time "seeing" practically every good body shot Kirk Johnson threw as low blows. Watch that fight in slow motion 5 of the blows called low by joe cortez were legit punches including the final one that KO's Ruiz
It was a travesty Cortez fell for the scam artist

Exactly. And it wasn't the first time Ruiz had pulled this crap either. He did it AT LEAST twice before, once against Jimmy Thunder in 1997, to get extra point deductions in a fight he was losing (it was STILL a split decision), and once against Holyfield in their second fight to avoid getting counted after going down from a body shot.

Ruiz is a SHAMELESS FRAUD, a talentless regional fighter who would have been lucky to win the New England HW championship if it wasn't for Don King.

[fightking12]

I don't think so all he does is hold people he should just retire

[theunderdog]

To save boxing from what? Insomnia?


yup, ruiz is prescribed to be better then most sleeping pills

[El Bombasto]

:lol: and helping Samoan New Zealanders make ATG highlight clips.

:lol:
Very commendable resume by The Quiet Man

[Rollo]

but atleast Ruiz has a chin.


19 seconds.

[ApatheticLeader]

19 seconds.He got caught by someone that was a monstrous puncher. That doesn't prove he doesn't have a chin.

I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see that happen again to Ruiz though. That was fuuuuun, and one of those rare KOs that got more fun with time :yep

[spiderricco]

Tua landed a lucky punch and has gone on to have a shit career while the Quietman is a future hall of famer.I hope Ruiz does get a chance to fight Vladdy so he can drop his big right hand on the egg and win another world title to further cement his legacy.

[IntentionalButt]

Tua landed a lucky punch and has gone on to have a shit career while the Quietman is a future hall of famer.I hope Ruiz does get a chance to fight Vladdy so he can drop his big right hand on the egg and win another world title to further cement his legacy.
What's luck got to do, got to do with it?????????????????

[The Kurgan]

At least Klitschko can punch.

Ruiz has "sneaky power" in his right hand. It's so sneaky, he can stop you without you even being hurt. Ask Oquendo.

[spiderricco]

What's luck got to do, got to do with it?????????????????

The Quietman didn't let that lucky punch ruin his career and went on to win multiple world titles.It was obviously a lucky punch since Tua was never able to duplicate the feat against any other top fighters.:good

[IntentionalButt]

The Quietman didn't let that lucky punch ruin his career and went on to win multiple world titles.It was obviously a lucky punch since Tua was never able to duplicate the feat against any other top fighters.:good
he warred with Ibeabuchi from bell to bell. name another 90's hw that could have done that. name a ruiz performance that was that impressive. and don't you dare mention anis, because that was a god damn lucky punch!

[Daruf]

In all fairness i quite enjoyed Chagaev vs Ruiz .. he didn't do much excessive holding there.
Same with Klitschko in any bout after Peter (and even that wasn't even close to a typical Ruiz fight)

That said .. Klitschko by brutal KO before the 5th.

[spiderricco]

he warred with Ibeabuchi from bell to bell. name another 90's hw that could have done that. name a ruiz performance that was that impressive. and don't you dare mention anis. :lol:

Ike has always been very overrated and could have easily lost to several heavyweights of the 90's.:hi:

[IntentionalButt]

Ike has always been very overrated and could have easily lost to several heavyweights of the 90's.:hi:

How do you see Ruiz-Ibeabuchi playing out?

[Zakman]

Ruiz has "sneaky power" in his right hand. It's so sneaky, he can stop you without you even being hurt. Ask Oquendo.
:rofl:rofl:rofl
You're joking, right? That was a very quick stoppage, against fighter not known for having a particularly good chin. Before that, the last knockout Ruiz scored was against some tomato can, and he hasn't scored any since.

One of the reasons Ruiz cheats is that he can't knock guys out at the world class level. Hell, without the holding and ham acting, he couldn't do much of ANYTHING at the world class level!! :patsch

[IntentionalButt]

Zakman please help me out here. Would Ibeabuchi-Ruiz last any longer than Tua-Ruiz, or was it really "luck" that poor, uber-talented JR fell victim to a bad stoppage early in his career? :rofl

[1punch1nder]

My dream fight Wladimir Klitschko vs John Ruiz might happen after all!!!:happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy

:lol:

[spiderricco]

How do you see Ruiz-Ibeabuchi playing out?

Since Ike now weighs 400 lbs I think the Quietman would dominate and win by mid round stoppage.:yep

[Guru_Too_You]

This fight would shatter the record set by even the most sleep inducing clinch fests in the history of the sport.

[Zakman]

Zakman please help me out here. Would Ibeabuchi-Ruiz last any longer than Tua-Ruiz, or was it really "luck" that poor, uber-talented JR fell victim to a bad stoppage early in his career? :rofl
Ike woulda knocked him out, too. If you look at Ruiz's record, he avoided guys with power. After the Tua fight, once King manuevered him into the rankings, the only guy he fought that could remotely be called a power-puncher was Rahman, who came into their fight grossly out of shape - and is overrated as a puncher anyway, because of the Lewis fight.

Why do people think Ruiz holds all the time. Yeah, I know he has NO skills, but that's only part of it. It's ALSO because he doesn't take the greatest punch. Ibeabuchi would've annihilated him.

[IntentionalButt]

Since Ike now weighs 400 lbs I think the Quietman would dominate and win by mid round stoppage.:yep

:patsch

in the 90's. prime for prime.

[spiderricco]

:patsch

in the 90's. prime for prime.

I think Ruiz's style would have frustrated Ike enough so he could win a decision.Ike would have a chance in the fight if he landed a lucky punch like Tua did.:smoke

[The Kurgan]

:rofl:rofl:rofl
You're joking, right? That was a very quick stoppage, against fighter not known for having a particularly good chin. Before that, the last knockout Ruiz scored was against some tomato can, and he hasn't scored any since.

One of the reasons Ruiz cheats is that he can't knock guys out at the world class level. Hell, without the holding and ham acting, he couldn't do much of ANYTHING at the world class level!! :patsch

Hence the sneakiness of his power: it's so sneaky, you don't even realise you were hurt. In fact, it's as if you weren't, but refs know better.

[papaspank]

I went to the doctor the other day and I told him I was having a hard time falling asleep. He gave me a dvd set, and on the cover was the title "The Best of John Ruiz Fights". So that night I put the dvd in, and what do you know I was asleep in no time at all. I would recommend to anyone having trouble falling asleep at night to get the "Best of John Ruiz Fight" on dvd.

[Zakman]

Hence the sneakiness of his power: it's so sneaky, you don't even realise you were hurt. In fact, it's as if you weren't, but refs know better.

I still can't tell whether you're serious or not. :lol: Very clever! :good

[The Kurgan]

I still can't tell whether you're serious or not. :lol: Very clever! :good

Put it this way: if the boxer I'm talking about is a joke and embarassment to the sport, I'm probably joking. :lol:

[Zakman]

Put it this way: if the boxer I'm talking about is a joke and embarassment to the sport, I'm probably joking. :lol:

Gotcha....you never know around here though. You wouldn't think ANY boxing fan who knows anything about the sport would take Ruiz seriously, but a few actually do! :patsch

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Man Ruiz at his finest. NOBODY could fake a low blow like the Quiteman, NOBODY. :yep

[claudius brown]

God ive missed his style lately :roll:

[buster007]

a funny old thread wasn't it?

[pong]

thank god its old nearly gave me a heart attack

[TerryESB]

Dont ever scare me like that again. Huh a WTF is wrong with you

I am highly aggitated that David Haye retired Ruiz and he never even got a thank you, job well done or anything from the American boxing fans!! Bottom line if it was an American HW there would be a pardae in his honor for ending Ruiz's career. A thank you very much David (that guy was a disease that was ruining Hw boxing) is that too much to ask? Huh

Whether you like the guy or not give him credit for retiring Ruiz!!!

[Clinton]

Dont ever scare me like that again. Huh a WTF is wrong with you

I am highly aggitated that David Haye retired Ruiz and he never even got a thank you, job well done or anything from the American boxing fans!! Bottom line if it was an American HW there would be a pardae in his honor for ending Ruiz's career. A thank you very much David (that guy was a disease that was ruining Hw boxing) is that too much to ask? Huh

Whether you like the guy or not give him credit for retiring Ruiz!!!
Actually,it was the American boxing public that retired Ruiz because almost every boxing fan in America refused to watch him fight.If anything,Americans ought to be mad at Haye for bringing old hugger back,no matter how funny and ridiculous the whole affair was.Btw,I almost had a fucking heart attack when I read the thread title.

[Clinton]

thank god its old nearly gave me a heart attack
My heart just skipped a couple of beats!

[buster007]

lol!!!!!!!

deep breaths guys.

[RUSKULL]

I'm not really sure who is worse about holding after watching Klitschko vs Peter. They're both boring, but atleast Ruiz has a chin.

Wlad hardly held at all in the second fight asswipe.....................watch a bit of boxing before you comment asshole. :hi:

[slugger3000]

Huggy bear fucking sucks!

[cesare-borgia]

thank god its old nearly gave me a heart attack
:rofl:rofl

[Blake Rayne]

And because you have spent the better part of the last 10 years focusing on Ruiz's nutsack, you know exactly where "low" is on his body.

I would pick Wlad to win this fight by UD, but you can't rule out Ruiz. The Ruiz that fought Valuev and Chagaev fought very well, and held less than Wlad has in the last few fights.

You berate someone for being on Ruiz nutsack then you write this. ROFL

[SimplyTheBest]

If Ruiz is coming back, expect a statement soon from Valuev to also return....thus reviving the WBA HW circle jerk

[Zakman]

Dont ever scare me like that again. Huh a WTF is wrong with you

I am highly aggitated that David Haye retired Ruiz and he never even got a thank you, job well done or anything from the American boxing fans!! Bottom line if it was an American HW there would be a pardae in his honor for ending Ruiz's career. A thank you very much David (that guy was a disease that was ruining Hw boxing) is that too much to ask? Huh

Whether you like the guy or not give him credit for retiring Ruiz!!!

I do. Believe me, even though I think Haye is a glass-jawed fraud, I will be forever grateful to him for ridding the HW division of Ruiz's disgraceful antics.

[floyd_g.o.a.t]

[quote=Vincent Gottschalk;16469]My dream fight Wladimir Klitschko vs John Ruiz might happen after all!!!:happy :happy :happy :happy :happy /quote]
:-( :lol:

[TerryESB]

I do. Believe me, even though I think Haye is a glass-jawed fraud, I will be forever grateful to him for ridding the HW division of Ruiz's disgraceful antics.


Ok at least that is a start. I dont approve of Haye being called a glass chinned fraud but at least he is admitting that he is very thankful for David destroying and retring Ruiz.

Is it so hard to say thank you!!!?

And maybe just think for a second to yourself 'hey maybe that David Haye isnt such a bad bloke after all. I couldnt never repay him in a thousand lifetimes enough for retiring that rat Ruiz.'

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[haworths623]

My dream fight Wladimir Klitschko vs John Ruiz might happen after all!!!:happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy

It's a one sided drubbing. Ruiz destroys Klitschko!!!

[NullpointerAlex]

WAAAAA.. ahem.. HUUUUUGS RUIZ!!!!!!

[speck]

If Ruiz is coming back, expect a statement soon from Valuev to also return....thus reviving the WBA HW circle jerk

Hell yeah! Bring on SNV vs Quiet Man for WBA's champion in recess belt:happy

[SimplyTheBest]

Hell yeah! Bring on SNV vs Quiet Man for WBA's champion in recess belt:happy

It could go down as the worst HW trilogy in history

[michaelowensvr]

He isn't coming back. I haven't seen any news articals about it.

[Zakman]

Ok at least that is a start. I dont approve of Haye being called a glass chinned fraud but at least he is admitting that he is very thankful for David destroying and retring Ruiz.

Is it so hard to say thank you!!!?

And maybe just think for a second to yourself 'hey maybe that David Haye isnt such a bad bloke after all. I couldnt never repay him in a thousand lifetimes enough for retiring that rat Ruiz.'

Well, I will certainly express thanks to David Haye for finally retiring this cheating stain on the history of heavyweight division.

And while I don't go in for Haye's braggadocio, I don't hate him as some do. I just think he has a glass jaw.

[IntentionalButt]

I have the 2nd most posts of anyone in this thread, which completely eludes my memory? :blood

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[iceman71]

Ruiz is a useful fighter. Even if you hate his style he is still one of the more capable heavyweights around. I would rather see him fight Ibragimov than see Ibragimov fight Holyfield. Want to proof an up and coming fighter is any good? Let him fight Ruiz.

Another heavyweight who is frequently overlooked is Chris Byrd. I don't think he'll beat Wladimir Klitschko, ever, Klitschko is just all wrong for him, but vs Chagaev or Ibragimov it could be interesting. Strange that those three are all southpaws.

not sure you have noticed....maybe because you think people are frozen in time....but ruiz has won 3 ........."THREE" fights in 7 YEARS. :deal

the 3 wins agains against

otis tisdale - who had 18 losses
jamile mcline, loser of 8 and 2 in a row
aden serin - 19 wins 10 LOSSES

when foreman got a shot at holyfield during the 90s, he had what you call " a comeback" winning 19 fights over a period of a few years and and eventually beating top 10 guys and earning a shot...

but you think giving this piece of crap a shot a wlad is a good because ...WHY??? because he beat Golota in 2004? (his last big win) some of you guys are just beyond delusional :patsch

[iceman71]

Ok at least that is a start. I dont approve of Haye being called a glass chinned fraud but at least he is admitting that he is very thankful for David destroying and retring Ruiz.

Is it so hard to say thank you!!!?

And maybe just think for a second to yourself 'hey maybe that David Haye isnt such a bad bloke after all. I couldnt never repay him in a thousand lifetimes enough for retiring that rat Ruiz.'
ruiz was retired, but thanks to that fraud haye, they unretired him and fed him 1 corpse for the purpose of a haye bitch slapping of a 40 year old shot guy who hasnt won a significant fight since 2004...