Which fighter have the best chance to beat Silva

[québecwarrior]

Which Fighter have the best chance to beat Anderson Silva?

(I didnt do a similar thread for Fedor, because, I couldnt think of more 3 people who would have a ''realistic'' chance to beat him..)

[québecwarrior]

I wanted to put Wand in there but there were no more option

[RUSKULL]

GSP, BJ Penn, Liddell & Rampage. I voted for GSP myself.

[Beebs]

I think GSP

With Cote coming in an extremly distant 10th (out of that list)

[Sweet Pea]

Arona.

[ufoalf]

The pre broken arm Shogun would be the best.

[québecwarrior]

Interesting that Rampage don't have a vote
must be the fact that Silva in the clinch, is deadly for him

[TK Terrible]

whats happening with Arona, makes alot of excuses but great fighter

[sugarngold]

Out of this list - I would pick GSP - but in reality my choice would be Cung Le. Unfortunately that fight will probably never happen.

[québecwarrior]

Out of this list - I would pick GSP - but in reality my choice would be Cung Le. Unfortunately that fight will probably never happen.
I would like to see Cung Lee vs Silva
what a great striking fight we would see

[Minotauro]

If Shogun can get back to his best then him followed by Arona.

[Polymath]

Interesting that Rampage don't have a vote
must be the fact that Silva in the clinch, is deadly for him

Rampage is the only guy I'd strongly favor over Silva at 205; he can knock him out and maul him from the top position ont he ground. Mind I still see AS as a very live dog in this.

[Polymath]

Michael Bisping :rofl

[québecwarrior]

I needed to put a guy from UK to represent you know what i'm saying:lol:

[Polymath]

I needed to put a guy from UK to represent you know what i'm saying:lol:

Same for Cote :D


BTW I think i may be the only person left on earth who thinks Dan Henderson is going to avange his loss to AS if given the chance. War Hendo :happy

[québecwarrior]

Same for Cote :D


BTW I think i may be the only person left on earth who thinks Dan Henderson is going to avange his loss to AS if given the chance. War Hendo :happy
GSP represent us already very well!

Cote is just a bonus when he is gonna KO silva in 5 seconds to break the record of Irvin:hey

[Beebs]

whats happening with Arona, makes alot of excuses but great fighter

He went on some sort of surfing adventure around the world I believe, and is now looking for contracts to fight again.

[chimba]

I think Arona is a good choice, hed be one of te few strong enough to hold him down and not get subbed. Other than that no one has a shot...

Anyone saw the way he grabbed Irvins roundhouse and timed that right hand? Who the fuck catches a roundhouse like that.and throws a missile as a counter? Im sorry no one beats him..

Arona, Couture may have a shot

[codeman99998]

I would like to see Cung Le versus Silva, just because Silva KO1 might dispel a bit of Cung Le's "greatness".

I think Thiago Silva might have a good shot of beating Anderson. He is a big guy, and he uses his jujitsu very well to set up devastating ground and pound.

I don't know for sure out of that list, but I know that I WANT to see him fight Chuck Lidell.

Also, I think GSP only stands a chance if he can get the fight to the ground fast. GSP has pretty good striking, but it would be a terrible terrible mistake if he attempted to strike with Silva for more than 2 seconds at a time.

[québecwarrior]

I think Arona is a good choice, hed be one of te few strong enough to hold him down and not get subbed. Other than that no one has a shot...

Anyone saw the way he grabbed Irvins roundhouse and timed that right hand? Who the fuck catches a roundhouse like that.and throws a missile as a counter? Im sorry no one beats him..

Arona, Couture may have a shot
that was a great catch by Silva..but his kick was a lazy one..any good fighter would had caught that

[sugarngold]

Other: Cung Le.

[Sweet Pea]

GSP has very little chance of surviving 5 rounds. Cung Le would be throughly outclassed everywhere the fight went.

[sugarngold]

GSP has very little chance of surviving 5 rounds. Cung Le would be throughly outclassed everywhere the fight went.

On the ground, yes, standing - no. Cung is actually more versatile on his feet than Anderson.

[Grievesy]

GSP has very little chance of surviving 5 rounds. Cung Le would be throughly outclassed everywhere the fight went.

Agree 100% with this.:good

I think Arona would have the best chance by doing something similar to what he did when he beat Wand. Like someone said before he has the strength to hold him down and the ability to avoid being subbed on the ground.

Also the cage would be a huge advantage for Arona. He would be able to keep Silva pinned against the cage and secure a takedown much easier. Add in elbows for his gnp and he's sorted. Like he says, the UFC rules are made for him. Apart from him maybe Machida would be able to grab a close decision. To be honest Anderson is probably a favourite against anyone from 170 to 205.

[québecwarrior]

GSP has very little chance of surviving 5 rounds. Cung Le would be throughly outclassed everywhere the fight went. Silva never fought an elusive guy like GSP on his feet. GSP has the tools to avoid Silva's strike(don't say Serra, GSP got caught being unaware 'cause he underrated Serra's standing in my opinion)He wont do it vs Silva, , he wont stand with him 'cause he know he cant, so GSP will take him easily on the ground.The Question is, can GSP hold Silva on the ground? Silva has a poor defence takedown in my opinion. Dan Henderson shouldnt have tried to make it too much standing vs Silva.
Silva may very well TKO GSP, but GSP may very well win a 5 round, with him on the top of Silva.
60/40 in favor of Silva

[Sweet Pea]

On the ground, yes, standing - no. Cung is actually more versatile on his feet than Anderson.Cung's lack of any kind of versatility whatsoever aside from side kicks on the feet is actually what prompts me to pick Silva and label Cung as overrated. Silva is about the most versatile standup fighter there is, from punches, kicks, knees, clinch, elbows, etc. I'll take that any day over fancy side kicks. Seriously, where the FUCK did you come to that conclusion?

[Sweet Pea]

Silva never fought an elusive guy like GSP on his feet. GSP has the tools to avoid Silva's strike(don't say Serra, GSP got caught being unaware 'cause he underrated Serra's standing in my opinion)He wont do it vs Silva, , he wont stand with him 'cause he know he cant, so GSP will take him easily on the ground.The Question is, can GSP hold Silva on the ground? Silva has a poor defence takedown in my opinion. Dan Henderson shouldnt have tried to make it too much standing vs Silva.
Silva may very well TKO GSP, but GSP may very well win a 5 round, with him on the top of Silva.
60/40 in favor of Silva

GSP has zero chance of experiencing any kind of success on the feet with any top notch striker. He is too basic. He has good movement, but he's simply too basic. He'd get owned severely on the feet against Anderson, and every time he shot or tried to close the distance he'd be in range of having a bomb landed on him, which would be the beginning of the end for him.

On the ground he'd be able to maintain top position for periods, that is it. Silva would probably do more effective work on bottom than GSP would on top, or at least equal anyway. Bottom line, over 5 rounds I see no way in hell GSP is able to repeat this constantly without catching anything big. Not a chance in hell.

[rydersonthestorm]

At the 185 weight class i only see two guys with any chance and that is Paulo Filho (when recovered) and also Rousimar Palhares (not quite ready yet). I think maybe some of the top 205 guys might have a shot as well but at his true weight class these are the only guys i could see beating him in the next couple of years barring a breakout star.

[rekcutnevets]

Originally Posted by Sweat Pea
Silva is about the most versatile standup fighter there is, from punches, kicks, knees, clinch, elbows, etc. This is probably true.

Originally Posted by Sweat Pea
Cung's lack of any kind of versatility whatsoever aside from side kicks on the feet is actually what prompts me to pick Silva and label Cung as overrated. I have to disagree here. Le may give a limited impression against some of this lesser opposition, but I feel that is because he has not been threatened by his opponents thus far. I've been impressed by his effective use of the side kick to go along with his powerful round kicks. His kicks make him a threat any time he is standing. If you count throws as part of a fighter's stand-up game, his clinch is very dangerous as well. Le also has good handspeed to boot, or glove if you prefer.

I would personally like to see Le beat Lawler over at Elite, and then maybe face someone like Thiago Alves if he joins the UFC. If Le can be victorius in fights like those a fight with Silva would be earned, and possibly a rather large event.

[rekcutnevets]

I partially take back the "not been threatened by his opponents" comment from above. Shamrock did hurt him in the final stanza of their fight.

[Beebs]

At the 185 weight class i only see two guys with any chance and that is Paulo Filho (when recovered) and also Rousimar Palhares (not quite ready yet). I think maybe some of the top 205 guys might have a shot as well but at his true weight class these are the only guys i could see beating him in the next couple of years barring a breakout star.

Palhares is a very wise choice.

[sugarngold]

Palhares is a very wise choice.

Haven't heard of this guy yet. What org does he fight for?

[Beebs]

Just had his first fight in the UFC, is fighting Henderson next I believe.

[Polymath]

Haven't heard of this guy yet. What org does he fight for?

Brilliant submission victory over Ivan Salaverry at UFC85(I think? may have been 84...)

He's a 5'8 tank who can take Silva down, and if he he does is way baetter on the ground. however I feel he'll struggle to take Hendo down and will be KO'd. Hendo will beat Silva :deal

[québecwarrior]

GSP has zero chance of experiencing any kind of success on the feet with any top notch striker. He is too basic. He has good movement, but he's simply too basic. He'd get owned severely on the feet against Anderson, and every time he shot or tried to close the distance he'd be in range of having a bomb landed on him, which would be the beginning of the end for him.

On the ground he'd be able to maintain top position for periods, that is it. Silva would probably do more effective work on bottom than GSP would on top, or at least equal anyway. Bottom line, over 5 rounds I see no way in hell GSP is able to repeat this constantly without catching anything big. Not a chance in hell. GSP is not too basic, what the fuck, he has trying every strike in the book in his career. And excuse me, but if Travis Lutter can take Silva on the ground without being knock out, in the first round, guess what GSP will do? Lutter was in a fatty shape, didnt do weight, and did take Silva down.
I don't get the GSP would get severly owned on the feet, bla bla bla. So what? is this a standing fight? GSP would get severly owned on his back vs BJ, so?
Anyway, this fight will likely happen one day, I hope, so we are gonna see.
And LOL to the zero sucess to GSP with any top notch fighter. He did held his own pretty good vs BJ Penn, who is a top notch striker:goodTake away the eye poking , and could had been a 10-10 round, but BJ did take it, but that wasnt a 10-8 rounds for BJ...

[sugarngold]

GSP is not too basic, what the fuck, he has trying every strike in the book in his career. And excuse me, but if Travis Lutter can take Silva on the ground without being knock out, in the first round, guess what GSP will do? Lutter was in a fatty shape, didnt do weight, and did take Silva down.
I don't get the GSP would get severly owned on the feet, bla bla bla. So what? is this a standing fight? GSP would get severly owned on his back vs BJ, so?
Anyway, this fight will likely happen one day, I hope, so we are gonna see.
And LOL to the zero sucess to GSP with any top notch fighter. He did held his own pretty good vs BJ Penn, who is a top notch striker:goodTake away the eye poking , and could had been a 10-10 round, but BJ did take it, but that wasnt a 10-8 rounds for BJ...
I like GSP's chances against Silva as well. I think he is one of the few fighters within the nearby weight classes that could give Silva a challenge.

[sugarngold]

Brilliant submission victory over Ivan Salaverry at UFC85(I think? may have been 84...)

He's a 5'8 tank who can take Silva down, and if he he does is way baetter on the ground. however I feel he'll struggle to take Hendo down and will be KO'd. Hendo will beat Silva :deal
I just watched some of Toquinho's fights on Youtube and I am impressd. I didn't realize he was with the Brazilian Top Team. Mario Sperry has brought us some great fighters over the years.

This guy's foot locks are unbelievable. He actually stands a chance of catching Henderson with one of those. He shoots for submissions smoothly and hooks them very quickly. This should be a great fight.

[iksrtfo]

I would have to say GSP, although not because of technique or skill. I think if anyone beats Silva, they will do it by exsplosive pressure and keeping Anderson busying defending. That or some-one who can sub him before getting knocked out.

[iksrtfo]

IMHO, GSP is in no way "basic". I have never seen so many variations of the super man punch come from one fighter. He has a sort of super man kick where he leaps foreward with a left jab and then comes with a right kick. It's very impressive.

[Ubersteve]

Weird list, if he came into the fight in the right shape, and it was at LHW then Shogun could fuck Anderson up pretty badly.

[CJLightweight]

rampage jackson

[Ubersteve]

Rampage does not have the best history of getting clinched.

[MasterCalzaghe]

Didn't Liddel beat Wanderlei Silva???

[Nuke]

Same for Cote :D


BTW I think i may be the only person left on earth who thinks Dan Henderson is going to avange his loss to AS if given the chance. War Hendo :happy


I'm with you on that :bbb

Dana won't make that fight though :deal

[Nuke]

I think Arona is a good choice, hed be one of te few strong enough to hold him down and not get subbed. Other than that no one has a shot...

Anyone saw the way he grabbed Irvins roundhouse and timed that right hand? Who the fuck catches a roundhouse like that.and throws a missile as a counter? Im sorry no one beats him..

Arona, Couture may have a shot


I hate to say it or make an excuse because its not, its just reality, that kick was pretty lazy and more like a jabkick, probing to find range maybe but lazy non the less. I think I could have caught that one.

[Nuke]

I partially take back the "not been threatened by his opponents" comment from above. Shamrock did hurt him in the final stanza of their fight.


he also kicked Shamrocks are apart, so its not like his kicks are just show.