David Tua vs Montana is On PPV!!!!

[Nawfal]

wtf.

will this even get 1000 buys?

serioulsy are there 1000 people dumb enough to buy this?

[brooklyn1550]

What a terrible PPV, I doubt it gets 1000 buys:patsch

This should be on Wednesday Night Fights

[thesandman]

Thing is with these PPV's (this is a bad one, but there are plenty of others - eg Holyfields latest, RJJ's latest etc) that obviously people do buy them, otherwise they'd stop being created.

People need to stop buying crap.

[RUSKULL]

joe montana is fighting david tua?

:rofl

[Maxime]

It's on PPV because no TV network wanted to pay for the fight.

It's that simple. At least we have the option to watch the fight if we want too.

[Warfist]

They would have to pay ME to watch this crap.

[RUSKULL]

I think none of the regulars wanted to pick up the card so it becomes a PPV based on "name" fighters fighting against no-names rather than each other.

Shit, they should feed that hype-job Roman Greenberg to Tua or Mesi....................at least we'd get to see a great KO.

[RUSKULL]

It's on PPV because no TV network wanted to pay for the fight.

It's that simple. At least we have the option to what the fight if we want too.

That's messed up isn't it? Seems the trend theses days. The "star attractions" don't have to justify their opponents, they just make it PPV.

Not a bad price though, it's supposedly only $24.95. It should be $9.99, it'd be worth that much I guess, maybe not if you include tax and all...............:huh :-(

[Relentless]

tua is becoming the new joe mesi/butterbean

[a.arthur.h]

The way I see it is, normally this fight wouldn't even be on TV. So you wouldn't get to see it anyway. The way Tua has been lately, FNF/WNF and BAD probably don't want him headlining anything, and he sure as hell isn't getting on HBO-WCB at the moment.

I'm a fan-for-life of his and if I wasn't going to the fight I'd probably pay around $30 for a PPV. Seems like they are putting it on PPV for those that want to see it because the networks won't be covering it.

[Action]

Quit yer whinin'. Where else can you see Joe Mesi, David Tua, Roman Greenberg and Jeremy Williams on one show for $24.95?
ESPN doesn't pay for boxing anymore so who is going to have to pay? The fans. No one is being forced to buy it so if you don't want to then don't. Then just shut the eff up and let me and my 12 or so friends who will come over for a bar-b-q enjoy it.

[0-1]

Tua needs to get his fat fucking ass fighting once every 6 weeks and string together ten or so performances - treat him as a newcomer who is fighting his way back up, get him down in weight and keep him firing

His natural attributes of chin, power and endurance won't fail him even if he takes this route, he's likely to get sharper by doing this then he is fighting mid-card fighters once every four months

That's absolutely right; the one of these comebacks we'll really get behind is whichever of them fights like a prospect, regular fights offered cheap to the networks to get them exposure, rebuilding up the name and the credibility, and slowly lifting up the quality of the opposition. This is all meant to be inspired by George Foreman, but in his comeback he fought 24 fights in three years before he got his shot at Holyfield.

Compare and contrast that with Holyfield, who despite this supposed legendary conditioning fought twice in 2006 (I take this as the start of the latest comeback, as he didn't fight in 2005) and has fought twice so far this year, with hopefully one more to come. The opponents haven't been bum of the month, but even so, that's a pitiful work-rate in comparison.

[RUSKULL]

Quit yer whinin'. Where else can you see Joe Mesi, David Tua, Roman Greenberg and Jeremy Williams on one show for $24.95?
ESPN doesn't pay for boxing anymore so who is going to have to pay? The fans. No one is being forced to buy it so if you don't want to then don't. Then just shut the eff up and let me and my 12 or so friends who will come over for a bar-b-q enjoy it.

Deal, let me know how it goes..........................

[Zakman]

Tua needs to get his fat fucking ass fighting once every 6 weeks and string together ten or so performances - treat him as a newcomer who is fighting his way back up, get him down in weight and keep him firing

His natural attributes of chin, power and endurance won't fail him even if he takes this route, he's likely to get sharper by doing this then he is fighting mid-card fighters once every four months

Fans have been saying this for over two years, at least. Tua and his team don't appear to be listening. They seem to think fighting a bum once or twice a year is good enough!!!:patsch

[a.arthur.h]

Fans have been saying this for over two years, at least. Tua and his team don't appear to be listening. They seem to think fighting a bum once or twice a year is good enough!!!:patsch
Agreed. I'm a fan of Tua's and I think this is just rediculous. It is not nearly good enough, especially since he isn't getting injured in any of his recent fights (broken hand, ribs, etc.). He needs to stay much more active and that may help his conditioning (I can only hope).

He should really listen to Hal Johnson and Joanne Mcleod..
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[Deebo]

Pay-per-view is ruining Boxing. Unlike UFC PPV's where there's 5 - 6 big names, champs, per event, Boxing PPV's are usually only 2 - 3 big names and some aren't even championship bouts. PPV is fucking it all up for Boxing fans. They should just charge us like $200 bucks a year and let us see all of them. Fuckers.

[RUSKULL]

I'm leaning toward buying the fight, the problem is that I moved from Long Island NY to Clayton NC and all of my "boxing friends" are back on the Island. If I watch a PPV I have to shell out the total price by my self. $24.95 isn't too bad but these PPV's are fuckin' killin' me. :patsch

Now if Tua & Mesi were fighting each other................

[Action]

Pay-per-view is ruining Boxing. Unlike UFC PPV's where there's 5 - 6 big names, champs, per event, Boxing PPV's are usually only 2 - 3 big names and some aren't even championship bouts. PPV is fucking it all up for Boxing fans. They should just charge us like $200 bucks a year and let us see all of them. Fuckers.

Get used to it. In the next few years, unless you watch Latino boxing , this will be the only way we can watch boxing. As long as there are no sponsors willing to pay networks for this dying sport the only way fans are going to be able to watch is by paying for it. Kind of like a toll road.

[a.arthur.h]

Pay-per-view is ruining Boxing. Unlike UFC PPV's where there's 5 - 6 big names, champs, per event, Boxing PPV's are usually only 2 - 3 big names and some aren't even championship bouts. PPV is fucking it all up for Boxing fans. They should just charge us like $200 bucks a year and let us see all of them. Fuckers.
But UFC never has free events like HBO-Boxing After Dark for instance. Which has shown many great fights for free. Whereas UFC shows everything regardless of quality of opposition on PPV.

[Zakman]

Agreed. I'm a fan of Tua's and I think this is just rediculous. It is not nearly good enough, especially since he isn't getting injured in any of his recent fights (broken hand, ribs, etc.). He needs to stay much more active and that may help his conditioning (I can only hope).

Tua's one of my favorite fighters, too - I know he's had management problems that account for part of why he was out of the ring, but to my knowlege that was all resolved. There is no reason that I'm aware of why he should not be fighting more frequently.

The sad part about it is that had he returned as soon as his management diffiiculties were resolved, and fought REGULARLY, he probably could have been in contention by now. As things stand, he's simply spinning his wheels, going nowhere.

[Deebo]

Get used to it. In the next few years, unless you watch Latino boxing , this will be the only way we can watch boxing. As long as there are no sponsors willing to pay networks for this dying sport the only way fans are going to be able to watch is by paying for it. Kind of like a toll road.


I am used to it. I'm used to only seeing maybe 3 - 4 good fights per year cause of stupid Pay-Per-View. :-( I have to work on Saturday nights sometimes a lot and I just can't see paying $50 bucks a pop for an event I recorded and am not watching it live.

I know BAD and ESPN show fights still but the quality of telecasts has seriously declined in the last few years.

Really once King and Aram are gone Oscar should try to change the business and give the Boxing fans option of paying one flat fee per year for at least the bouts he promotes. Maybe give a guy a discount too as an incentive.

[diamondDave]

I buy the cheap PPVs sometimes because if three or four of your buddies come over it works out to 5 bucks a person...and how are you going to beat that?

[Loufatski]

wtf.

will this even get 1000 buys?

serioulsy are there 1000 people dumb enough to buy this?

Yes, the Kombai tribe will order the fight.

[0-1]

Now if Tua & Mesi were fighting each other................

...then I'd be scared for the poor man's health!

Tua shouldn't be let in there with someone with that history.

[RUSKULL]

Yes, the Kombai tribe will order the fight.

:rofl

[RUSKULL]

...then I'd be scared for the poor man's health!

Tua shouldn't be let in there with someone with that history.

Good point, but I still think that Mesi or Tua should KO Greenberg, that's worth a PPV to me!

[fatcity]

But UFC never has free events like HBO-Boxing After Dark for instance. Which has shown many great fights for free. Whereas UFC shows everything regardless of quality of opposition on PPV.
Not so.Spike has shown numerous UFC events and will being broadcasting the big event from England on Sept.8.Anyone who has Spike,and most do,will see this for free.:good

[Stinky gloves]

wtf.

will this even get 1000 buys?

serioulsy are there 1000 people dumb enough to buy this?

1000 buys, this is 50.000$ and Tua is getting like 30.000, not bad at all!

[uppa kut]

I'd buy it if there was an undercard...If it were the same price as a movie rental. $3.49 (NO HIGHER). I feel that's all it's worth cause you will never get 5 friends over to split the cost. If could't be sold to networks atleast we have a chance to watch if we want at a reasonable price.

[Action]

I'd buy it if there was an undercard...If it were the same price as a movie rental. $3.49 (NO HIGHER). I feel that's all it's worth cause you will never get 5 friends over to split the cost. If could't be sold to networks atleast we have a chance to watch if we want at a reasonable price.

Jack the Cutman
" ESPN used to pay 50 to 70 thousand and Top Rank was the Big Daddy..Then USA jumped in the game and offered 35 to 50...USA hired a woman programer and Network Chief..She hated the image and made USA into the pablum Network..ESPN dropped their support by thousands and Top Rank said bye bye..Now the ESPN2 channel pays 25 K and if the main event is listed in 2 World Organizations they pay 30K...Wow BIG BUCKS..now you know why the big boys think twice about fighting on an ESPN card.. The Main and CO-Main comes out of the 25 and the promoter has to pay for the Hall,TV Lights,Security,Commission, Ambulance, Insurance .Fighter rooms and travel and meals...Now you know why any promoter thinks twice about doing the fights. The line forms on the right for any of you that want to be a promoter! You can't blame these guys for rolling the dice and trying to get enough buys to exceed the 25 or 30K given to them by the big spenders at ESPN2.."

[Wilhelm]

Tua needs to get his fat fucking ass fighting once every 6 weeks and string together ten or so performances - treat him as a newcomer who is fighting his way back up, get him down in weight and keep him firing

His natural attributes of chin, power and endurance won't fail him even if he takes this route, he's likely to get sharper by doing this then he is fighting mid-card fighters once every four months

This is what people always say about these old farts who were young hard punchers. The only one ever to actually DO it was Foreman. There are still people out there who think that if Tyson got back into shape he'd win it all.

Tua wasn't much when he was in his prime, and now he's not much who doesn't want to be much. He's done. Forget him. He'll never contend again. Lets move on.

[chung]

tua still has great power

[Action]

oh my god.....fuck these kife ass ppv fights


these roy jones bullshit affairs, and holyfield comeback is retarded. its just makes a bad name for boxing. boo this fight.

A bad name for boxing.....where were you born? Look up the definition of "bad name" and it says BOXING!
Boxing people invented the term bad name.

[diehard]

Tua not much in his prime. Three losses, one controversially, the other two against LL and Byrd, two champs. Defeated 4 future champs. Not too bad a resume. Quit hating on him. Tua is in great shape, at about 245 now. Look for him to come in at 235 against Montana. Tua's problem is inactivity in the ring.

[DamonD]

Question: Dont the promoters lose money if the ppv sales tank? If so, why risk it?
Oh yes. For example, the Holyfield-Oquendo PPV lost so much cash that allegedy Holyfield's cheque bounced the first time, I don't think Oquendo ever got paid in full, and everyone else just got nothing.

Why risk it? Because people are suckers for a big name, I guess.

Tua's comeback has been famously sluggish, but I was most disappointed in his recent comments over at Fightnews.

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"It'll be pleasing to get another title shot and winning it, which would seal off my career, and I still have three, four years to do it."
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I'm glad he wants the title shot but, damn, he sure is happy taking the very long and comfortable way to it. He's already 34...

[Steve Fox]

I remember in England when you could see big names fight in the middle of the week without having to pay for them - the good old days.

[Action]

Things like this disgust me. The boxer's would probably make more cash if it wasn't PPV and had wider exposure but they won't even try.

How then would they get paid?

[fatcity]

All this PPV card is missing is Kirk Johnson,then the hustle would be complete!:-(

[Action]

I remember in England when you could see big names fight in the middle of the week without having to pay for them - the good old days.

In America we call a man working for free....a slave or a prisoner.

[Shamrock]

Tua not much in his prime. Three losses, one controversially, the other two against LL and Byrd, two champs. Defeated 4 future champs. Not too bad a resume. Quit hating on him. Tua is in great shape, at about 245 now. Look for him to come in at 235 against Montana. Tua's problem is inactivity in the ring.

At least you admit he has a problem diehard, but that one problem is huge. I suspect that that problem is naturally creating other problems in a supposed comeback, like power of punch, timing and manouverability, not mention punchrate. The past is past, and seems to be well past unfortunately!

[Willy Bonka]

Quit yer whinin'. Where else can you see Joe Mesi, David Tua, Roman Greenberg and Jeremy Williams on one show for $24.95?
ESPN doesn't pay for boxing anymore so who is going to have to pay? The fans. No one is being forced to buy it so if you don't want to then don't. Then just shut the eff up and let me and my 12 or so friends who will come over for a bar-b-q enjoy it.

EXACTLY!

<---STiLL likes the "Tuaman", wants to see "Tank" Williams & "Baby" Joe, and really enjoys watching( "future Champ" ) Roman Greenberg!!! :thumbsup

[Ambition_Def]

serioulsy are there 1000 people dumb enough to buy this?

In a word, yes.

[joe the great]

joe montana is fighting david tua?
:lol: No I believe it is Saul Montana. Tua KO 2.

[diehard]

You are absolutely correct Shamrock. His lack of ring activity does affect everything else. Frankly, I don't understand his gameplan. He should go balls to the wall for two years, see what he can accomplish, and then get out. Why put himself thru continuous diets, tuff training regimens, meager paychecks, and loss of face. Do you think he's biding his time until he's sure he doesn't pay Barry and Peewww any big purses. Famous chinese saying:
"when you start avoiding other people, you end up avoiding yourself."

Any word on Shane Cameron?

[Action]

In a word, yes.

I think people will watch the big guys. They (Mesi, Tua, Greenberg, J. Williams) have a combined record of something like 147-8 with 120 knockouts

[Muchmoore]

Yeah, this is a joke for PPV.

[emanuel_augustus]

Quit yer whinin'. Where else can you see Joe Mesi, David Tua, Roman Greenberg and Jeremy Williams on one show for $24.95?

If they were fighting each other it would be worth it. Fighting tomato cans means it isn't worth it.

[T.C.W]

Joke