Cotto-Margarito

[Pat_Lowe]

Whats the classic forum's take on this. I think Cotto wins this for sure, to be honest I just don't think Margarito is that good. He has a good chin and throws alot of punches, but they are sloppy and all over the place and he leaves himself wide open. Cotto will take advantage of that.

[sweet_scientist]

I expect Cotto to outbox Margarito, but also expect Margarito to expose some vulnerabilities of Cotto's.

Don't be surprised if Margarito has Cotto close to going at some point, and I think (assuming Margarito doesn't get stopped on cuts by the mid rounds) the last third of the bout will be hell for Cotto.

Cotto 8 rounds to 4, with Margarito either getting a point for a knockdown or a point for a deliberate nut shot when Cotto needs to buy time.

[salsanchezfan]

..............Cotto is the far better fighter and I expect him to take a decision or stop Margarito on cuts, but I agree that the Mexican could prove troublesome. He comes at you like an octopus, and lands lots of ugly, seemingly cuffing shots that you wouldn't think would bother so polished a fighter as Cotto, but sometimes that unorthodoxy and smothering style is exactly the thing to upset the rhythm of such a classy fighter.

[natonic]

I'm picking Cotto, but wouldn't bet the house on it. I'm troubled by the times Cotto has been hurt. Margarito punches hard and often. Margarito seems to impose his will on a fight. I think if Cotto gets hurt Margarito might not let him off the hook. But I'll still take Cotto by tough decision.

[Maxmomer]

I expect Cotto to win due to his technical superiority and larger skillset, but Margo is going to give him hell and take him to the limit. I also expect Cotto to get KD'd at some point. I wouldn't be surprised if Margarito won, though.

[Loewe]

Hm, i pick Margarito. Cotto was hurt often in the past and Margarito throws many many hard shots and some of them are hard to see coming. Cotto is the better fighter but i just feel Margarito is wrong for him. If Margarito won´t be stopped on cuts he will take Cotto out in the last third of the fight when Cotto is already tired a bit sloppy like always. Will be a good fight though.

[Rebel-INS]

I like Margarito by stoppage, but its tough to call.

[D-MAC]

I lean towards Cotto by hard-earned decision, but do not discount a late stoppage upset for Margarito.

[fists of fury]

From what I've seen of both, I'd pick Cotto by decision. Highly original choice I know. :D

[Hatesrats]

Margarito will Punish Cotto early and finish him off late.
T.K.O. victory for Tony, the Cotto corner will throw in the towel.

[D-MAC]

Margarito will Punish Cotto early and finish him off late.
T.K.O. victory for Tony, the Cotto corner will throw in the towel.

A nice comparison here with another Puerto Rican great's first ever pro loss (Hopkins-Trinidad rings a bell)

[the cobra]

Cotto by decision, similar to the Mosley fight. Margo hurts Cotto once or twice, stuns him a few more times, but overall is outboxed and outpunched by the (at this moment when considering Mosley) overall better fighter. Close, but clear decision, probably a little clearer than closer when compared to the fight with Mosley. Margo isn't a one-punch knockout fighter, and Cotto's recuperative powers are great and he refuses to lose.

The simple answer is that Cotto has more advantages, most of which are big advantages, than Margo has over him. But in boxing, especially this fight, anything can happen.

[TommyV]

I favour Cotto to win here because of his superior technical skill set and his speed advantage. I figure Margarito will stun him but Cotto will be quicker to the land and hurt Margarito himself, particularly with body shots, and see him winning by TKO in the mid rounds.

[birddog]

I'm picking Cotto on superior boxing skills and body punching. I know Cotto has been hurt before but that was at 140, when he was 1 still learning and 2 obviously weight drained.

Also has anyone that Margo fought seriously attacked his body? Cotto I think will be able to and will spell the difference.

Having said all that I can see Tony catching Cotto and maybe winning. I watched the HBO countdown and like both these guys, as they are both true warriors wo the bullshit.

Cotto I think will be able to break him down though.

Should be a great fight

[Addie]

I'm picking Cotto on superior boxing skills and body punching. I know Cotto has been hurt before but that was at 140, when he was 1 still learning and 2 obviously weight drained.

Also has anyone that Margo fought seriously attacked his body? Cotto I think will.

Having said all that I can see Tony catching Cotto and maybe winning. I watched the HBO countdown and like both these guys, as they are both true warriors wo the bullshit.

Cotto I think will be able to break him down though.

Should be a great fight

I noticed a lot of posters at ESB have neglected the Judah fight, treating it almost as if it never happened.

Judah rocked and hurt Cotto four times in that fight.

[dpw417]

I like Cotto's speed and power...combined with his accuracy. He is by far the better schooled and technical fighter, compared to Margarito. Everything logical says Cotto wins...But you know what? This is Margarito's last chance and he knows it. He pushes Cotto onto the backfoot, and takes him out of his comfort zone with pressure. In a great fight, I'm going with
Margarito TKO11

[rekcutnevets]

Cotto really impressed me with the way he adjusted his guard after the Judah fight. Cotto was there for Judah to take. If Judah's corner had only told him to use his left, and not just "throw punches," Cotto's career could have really taken a detour.

Cotto's technical superiority and advantage in speed should be enough to win this fight. I'm not placing a bet, however. Margarito's power and Cotto' chin do not make this a sure thing for the champion.

[sweet_scientist]

Hm, i pick Margarito. Cotto was hurt often in the past and Margarito throws many many hard shots and some of them are hard to see coming. Cotto is the better fighter but i just feel Margarito is wrong for him. If Margarito won´t be stopped on cuts he will take Cotto out in the last third of the fight when Cotto is already tired a bit sloppy like always. Will be a good fight though.

We got the Loewe down right here folks :deal

Great call mate.

[sweet_scientist]

Margarito will Punish Cotto early and finish him off late.
T.K.O. victory for Tony, the Cotto corner will throw in the towel.

Pretty nice call as well. Though Cotto didn't really get punished at the start of the fight.

[birddog]

We got the Loewe down right here folks :deal

Great call mate.

oh well

[Robbi]

Margarito was slow to pull the trigger during the early rounds. IMO he could have thrown that bit extra at long range as he does have superb punches from distance. His jab wasn't quite what it could have been either. I called this a 50/50 before the bell rang. Margarito's power, granite chin, and workrate were going to pose problems for Cotto. The fight pretty much went as I thought it would in a strategy sense. Cotto was never going to stand and trade for long periods, well certainly not if he could help it. Lateral movement, tight defense, quick jabs, bursts of punches, then away again. What a chin Margarito has going for him as he never seemed too wilt when punches bounced off his head. Once Margarito got inside and worked the body then finished with uppercuts up the middle he had Cotto where he wanted him.

Margaritio has strange power. He's not a chilling one punch knockout artist. He needs accumulation, but not a lot of it.

[JohnThomas1]

I like Cotto's speed and power...combined with his accuracy. He is by far the better schooled and technical fighter, compared to Margarito. Everything logical says Cotto wins...But you know what? This is Margarito's last chance and he knows it. He pushes Cotto onto the backfoot, and takes him out of his comfort zone with pressure. In a great fight, I'm going with
Margarito TKO11

:happy

[Robbi]

Here was how I called the fight in a private message to a friend on ESB.

I think it's a geniune 50/50 fight. Margarito has the power, chin, and workrate as well as stamina to be a real danger.

However, I reckon Cotto will try to dictate the fight, move laterally, and box as much as possible. Only when he has no option will he trade punches. With Margarito being very tall I think he'll be open to body punches especially as he's being aggressive.

I can't call it.

[Robbi]

Hey, Chavez was in the ring with Margarito after the fight.

Mexican's stick together.

[Samurai]

Well that was fucking brutal.

[Bad_Intentions]

Margarito will Punish Cotto early and finish him off late.
T.K.O. victory for Tony, the Cotto corner will throw in the towel.

damn, this guy predicted it perfectly.
:good

[sweet_scientist]

:happy

Agreed. Great call dpw417. :good

[My dinner with Conteh]

Here was how I called the fight in a private message to a friend on ESB.

I think it's a geniune 50/50 fight. Margarito has the power, chin, and workrate as well as stamina to be a real danger.

However, I reckon Cotto will try to dictate the fight, move laterally, and box as much as possible. Only when he has no option will he trade punches. With Margarito being very tall I think he'll be open to body punches especially as he's being aggressive.

I can't call it.




Have to laugh at this. In a thread where some people made excellent, even spot on, predictions- sensing the upset, you think people will be impressed by a post where you sat on the fence. :lol:

[PowerPuncher]

Have to laugh at this. In a thread where some people made excellent, even spot on, predictions- sensing the upset, you think people will be impressed by a post where you sat on the fence. :lol:

Umm maybe he just wanted to share and not impress :verysad

I thought Cotto would school Marg and he was for the first 5 rounds. I reckon Cotto wins the rematch

[JohnThomas1]

Umm maybe he just wanted to share and not impress :verysad

I thought Cotto would school Marg and he was for the first 5 rounds. I reckon Cotto wins the rematch

Marg would be awful hard to beat in a rematch, especially immediately. Lets hope it happens.

[PowerPuncher]

Marg would be awful hard to beat in a rematch, especially immediately. Lets hope it happens.

I do hope it happens, if Cotto has enough Mantle he can take Marg, uncle bob will be more than happy to make another in house PPV

[My dinner with Conteh]

Umm maybe he just wanted to share and not impress :verysad



Share what? That he couldn't predict a winner. :huh

[Loewe]

Marg would be awful hard to beat in a rematch, especially immediately. Lets hope it happens.

Well, imo Cotto is the better and more talented boxer, he will learn form this loss, adjust and come back even stronger if this is enough to beat Margo i can´t say know. I couldn´t watch the fight over but was there any sign at the end of the figh that this fight left a mark on Cotto - mentally?

[The Wanderer]

This fight broke a string of correct picks I had going back to Hopkins-De La Hoya. I leaned towards Cotto, probably on a late stoppage due to cuts or decision, but I was uneasy about it because of the past chin problems. Still, while I thought Margarito would draw him into a war for a few rounds, he'd be smart enough to retreat and move afterwards, and could recover.

Looks like I was wrong. All the props in the world to Margarito, man's got a chin of iron and a ton of determination.

[dpw417]

Agreed. Great call dpw417. :good
Cheers SS and JT1 and thanks for the props. I finally got one right...I was beginning to feel 'Teddy Atlas' for a while there...Guys wasn't that a great fight!?

[Robbi]

Have to laugh at this. In a thread where some people made excellent, even spot on, predictions- sensing the upset, you think people will be impressed by a post where you sat on the fence. :lol:

At least I never picked Cotto overwhelmingly like some people did. Whats so laughable about it. I couldn't pick a winner? I called most things right on how the fight went in general. So I was spot on with my strategy.

"Have to laugh at this"

Cheeky cunt.

[Robbi]

Share what? That he couldn't predict a winner. :huh

At least I gave a summary to some extent. And one thing I did got right, Margarito would be a danger with his power, chin, workrate and stamina. That was correct. Some people who picked Cotto thought becuase he was technically better and more adaptable then Margarito never stood a chance. So I did share something.

[Blacc Jesus]

I like Cotto's speed and power...combined with his accuracy. He is by far the better schooled and technical fighter, compared to Margarito. Everything logical says Cotto wins...But you know what? This is Margarito's last chance and he knows it. He pushes Cotto onto the backfoot, and takes him out of his comfort zone with pressure. In a great fight, I'm going with
Margarito TKO11
Great call.:good

[dpw417]

Great call.:good
Thanks.:good

[salsanchezfan]

I like Cotto's speed and power...combined with his accuracy. He is by far the better schooled and technical fighter, compared to Margarito. Everything logical says Cotto wins...But you know what? This is Margarito's last chance and he knows it. He pushes Cotto onto the backfoot, and takes him out of his comfort zone with pressure. In a great fight, I'm going with
Margarito TKO11


..............:shock:

Jesus, great call.


..........Now uh..........as to the upcoming lottery numbers?........:think

[Minotauro]

I like Cotto's speed and power...combined with his accuracy. He is by far the better schooled and technical fighter, compared to Margarito. Everything logical says Cotto wins...But you know what? This is Margarito's last chance and he knows it. He pushes Cotto onto the backfoot, and takes him out of his comfort zone with pressure. In a great fight, I'm going with
Margarito TKO11

:happy You should have bet on it.

[ChrisPontius]

Marg would be awful hard to beat in a rematch, especially immediately. Lets hope it happens.
I think Cotto would lose even quicker in a rematch. I think this is one of those cases where the other guy just has such a big stylistic advantage, and after the first loss, the "not again..." psychology sets in after a few rounds, making a win in the rematch almost impossible... just like i think Federer will have tremendous trouble ever beating Nadal again after losing the high stakes match at Wimbledon, even if he is the greater tennis player.

[Robbi]

I think Cotto would lose even quicker in a rematch.

Margarito abandoned his right cross from distance last night. His best punch IMO. He's a superb long range, aggressive, boxer/puncher. His jab wasn't thrown as regularly as it should have been throughout the fight. He should have been boxing aggressively instead of going in with nothing before he got inside and had success. Margarito just never pulled the trigger at long range last night. It's not like him.

He could well finish Cotto quicker in a rematch he uses his height to his advantage as he's closing the distance.

[Russell]

Have to laugh at this. In a thread where some people made excellent, even spot on, predictions- sensing the upset, you think people will be impressed by a post where you sat on the fence. :lol:

Yeah, some comedy gold in this one.

This show should get taken on the road. :rofl

[Robbi]

Yeah, some comedy gold in this one.

This show should get taken on the road. :rofl

:lol:

[stevebhoy87]

I think Cotto would lose even quicker in a rematch. I think this is one of those cases where the other guy just has such a big stylistic advantage, and after the first loss, the "not again..." psychology sets in after a few rounds, making a win in the rematch almost impossible... just like i think Federer will have tremendous trouble ever beating Nadal again after losing the high stakes match at Wimbledon, even if he is the greater tennis player.

Totally agee with this, cotto was so superior in the 1st 6 rounds and hitting margarito that much and it just made no impression, he knows he cannot stop margo walking through him and that therefore he is unlikely to ever beat him

[Drew101]

..............:shock:

Jesus, great call.


..........Now uh..........as to the upcoming lottery numbers?........:think

:lol:

Yeah. I really expected Margo to be the one who got busted up in the fight, but the fact that he took any number of crazy powershots without seeming to even notice that they were landing on his person seemed to take the fight out of Cotto. The fact that he would almost casually throw 130 punches a round probably had an impact, too.

I was picking Cotto, and I was wrong.

Tried to look for a way to describe Margo's performace, and the only word that I could think of that really suited was..."inevitable". Like death, taxes, and the Yankees in the playoffs, the effects of Margo's constant pressure is...inevitable.

And that makes him a scary, scary fighter.

[Russell]

:lol:

Yeah, so it goes.

Personally I never make end all detailed thesis like predictions on boxing fights, especially online.

The sport is way too unpredictable for that, as a dozen fights this year alone show.

[Russell]

And that makes him a scary, scary fighter.

He is scary.

Speaking of emotions, I think sad applies because I don't think Marg is going to be around for long.

He's been fighting since he was... what... 15? 17?

He's already eaten the shots of power punchers and maulers like Cintron and Cotto multiple times. And you just don't make a career out of that and have longevity, sadly.

[JohnThomas1]

I think Cotto would lose even quicker in a rematch. I think this is one of those cases where the other guy just has such a big stylistic advantage, and after the first loss, the "not again..." psychology sets in after a few rounds, making a win in the rematch almost impossible... just like i think Federer will have tremendous trouble ever beating Nadal again after losing the high stakes match at Wimbledon, even if he is the greater tennis player.


Yes the age old philosophy for rematches which often rings true. I keep hearing Cotto is far more talented and Cotto fought wrong and Cotto has the room for improvement to win but if someone put a gun to my head i'd HATE to be riding on Cotto. There were some interesting signs and periods in the Mosely fight and they resurfaced under pressure here.

[Robbi]

Yes the age old philosophy for rematches which often rings true. I keep hearing Cotto is far more talented and Cotto fought wrong and Cotto has the room for improvement to win but if someone put a gun to my head i'd HATE to be riding on Cotto. There were some interesting signs and periods in the Mosely fight and they resurfaced under pressure here.

Cotto fought the right fight IMO. He wasn't standing with Margarito for too long. He moved, used his jab, threw combinations and generally got his tactics spot on. However, Margarito's persistence troubled him for short periods of the fight then down the stretch those short periods became long periods. Margarito's power up close done the damage and it slowed Cotto down. Cotto could have adjusted himself accordingly at times, but it was Margarito who gets the plaudits rather than Cotto being critisized.

[JohnThomas1]

Cotto fought the right fight IMO. He wasn't standing with Margarito for too long. He moved, used his jab, threw combinations and generally got his tactics spot on. However, Margarito's persistence troubled him for short periods of the fight then down the stretch those short periods became long periods. Margarito's power up close done the damage and it slowed Cotto down. Cotto could have adjusted himself accordingly at times, but it was Margarito who gets the plaudits rather than Cotto being critisized.

Where were the famed Cotto bodypunches?

[Robbi]

Where were the famed Cotto bodypunches?

JT he could have went downstairs more often, yes. But with saying he fought 'wrong' it's like saying he went about his business in the opposite manner in which he should have in tactical sense. That wasn't the case. He was always going to have to trade at times to try and get Margarito's respect and not be negative. Sometimes he had no option but to fire back flat-footed, thus becoming a better target for Margarito while doing so.

[Maxmomer]

Exactly what I wanted to happen, happened! YES! That fight was awesome! I was going fuckin nuts in the 11th. That was so worth 50 bucks.

[birddog]

Where were the famed Cotto bodypunches?

JT I wondered that myself, I thought that would be one of his keys to winning.

I'm one that thought Cotto would win also, re the above he didn't go to the body at all which amazed me. It was Margo who did an exellent job going to the body. Kellerman and lamply were going crazy on Cotto's clean punching, but anyone can see they he wasn't setting down on them as he usually does.

My points on why Cotto lost, though if he changed tactics I can't say it would have changed the outcome;

*Though Cotto boxed well , he wasn't able to set down on his punches as he usually does, because he was too set on moving out of the way.
*Margo did allot of good body work, Cotto did none (which is one of his strong points)
*Cotto never ever tried to back up Margo and assert himself, he let Margo dictate the pace. Cotto never changed tempo at all in the fight, nothing to disrupt Margo's come forward rythem.
*Maybe had Migel come forward bombs away, he may had dented Margo who knows.

As far as Cotto's chin, it's obvioulsy good. Margo's however maybe in the Lamotta/Hagler level

Manny stewart called it in the early rounds (can cotto keep up the movement against such a big tough guy)

My Hats off to Tony, he fought a great fight.

A rematch Hmm

[Robbi]

My points on why Cotto lost, though if he changed tactics I can't say it would have changed the outcome;

*Though Cotto boxed well , he wasn't able to set down on his punches as he usually does, because he was too set on moving out of the way.
*Margo did allot of good body work, Cotto did none (which is one of his strong points)
*Cotto never ever tried to back up Margo and assert himself, he let Margo dictate the pace. Cotto never changed tempo at all in the fight, nothing to disrupt Margo's come forward rythem.
*Maybe had Migel come forward bombs away, he may had dented Margo who knows.


*Yes Cotto boxed well and never sat down on his punches as he usually does because of the fighter in front on him. If Cotto took more risks and traded he would have been giving Margarito more opportunities to land the type of punches he craved. While Cotto was moving laterally he wasn't being caught often. Very seldom was he caught at long range by Margarito's right hand while on the move. That was one knock on Margarito for me. Not enough right hands at arms length. Considering he was taller with longer reach that punch would have made things easier for him while he was closing the distance. Margarito's right cross, his best punch IMO.

*Cotto did go to the body, but as you rightly said not often enough. This was one aspect of his game which he needed to show more of against Margarito. We all know what a great chin Margarito had before the opening bell rang, so the body should have been targeted on a regular basis.

*Cotto backing up Margarito would have been suicidal. Again it ties in with the first point I addressed. It's about playing the percentage game correctly. When Cotto stood and traded he did it optionally during periods of the fight. He couldn't be on the move for the entire fight. At times Cotto was always going to stand his ground as he's not a pure boxer. It's not in his make-up to stick behind the jab throughout a contest. Margarito simply gave Cotto no alternative but to exchange because of the pressure and aggression being applied, at times.

*Thats in hindsight and a guess. But IMO if he came forward 'bombs away' the fight would have finished earlier. Margarito's punch resistance and power were too much as was shown down the stretch. So with Cotto standing in there looking for a war during the early rounds he's just giving Margarito what he wants sooner rather than later. Although going to the body right from the get-go during the early stages of a war might have been to Cotto' advantage. I doubt it.

[birddog]

*Yes Cotto boxed well and never sat down on his punches as he usually does because of the fighter in front on him. If Cotto took more risks and traded he would have been giving Margarito more opportunities to land the type of punches he craved. While Cotto was moving laterally he wasn't being caught often. Very seldom was he caught at long range by Margarito's right hand while on the move. That was one knock on Margarito for me. Not enough right hands at arms length. Considering he was taller with longer reach that punch would have made things easier for him while he was closing the distance. Margarito's right cross, his best punch IMO.

*Cotto did go to the body, but as you rightly said not often enough. This was one aspect of his game which he needed to show more of against Margarito. We all know what a great chin Margarito had before the opening bell rang, so the body should have been targeted on a regular basis.

*Cotto backing up Margarito would have been suicidal. Again it ties in with the first point I addressed. It's about playing the percentage game correctly. When Cotto stood and traded he did it optionally during periods of the fight. He couldn't be on the move for the entire fight. At times Cotto was always going to stand his ground as he's not a pure boxer. It's not in his make-up to stick behind the jab throughout a contest. Margarito simply gave Cotto no alternative but to exchange because of the pressure and aggression being applied, at times.

*Thats in hindsight and a guess. But IMO if he came forward 'bombs away' the fight would have finished earlier. Margarito's punch resistance and power were too much as was shown down the stretch. So with Cotto standing in there looking for a war during the early rounds he's just giving Margarito what he wants sooner rather than later. Although going to the body right from the get-go during the early stages of a war might have been to Cotto' advantage. I doubt it.
I Appreciate your reply,

It does seem that Cotto went into the fight for some reason thinking he was Mayweather, and also that he could not stand with Margo early on without testing him.

I just don't get why he abandoned any type of body attack early on, or for that matter at any point in the fight. Margo on the other hand didn't.

I did qualify my analysis by saying it may not have changed the outcome.

[Robbi]

I Appreciate your reply,

It does seem that Cotto went into the fight for some reason thinking he was Mayweather, and also that he could not stand with Margo early on without testing him.

I just don't get why he abandoned any type of body attack early on, or for that matter at any point in the fight. Margo on the other hand didn't.

I did qualify my analysis by saying it may not have changed the outcome.

Cotto has improved a lot over the last couple of years and became more adaptable. The reason he was 'thinking he was Mayweather' ? Thats the type of strategy he needed to show against Margarito. His defense, slipping, countering, his jab even more so, those are improved areas of his game. If you have more tools, why not use them. But flashes of a Chavez he needed to show at times of course to test Margarito.

IMO he testing Margarito early without being ouright wreckless.

[birddog]

Cotto has improved a lot over the last couple of years and became more adaptable. The reason he was 'thinking he was Mayweather' ? Thats the type of strategy he needed to show against Margarito. His defense, slipping, countering, his jab even more so, those are improved areas of his game. If you have more tools, why not use them. But flashes of a Chavez he needed to show at times of course to test Margarito.

IMO he testing Margarito early without being ouright wreckless.

I guess that's my point. he never tested margo, He never tried to impose his will on him and try to check margo's coming forward.

Where was the I'm coming forward behind my jab leading, with a right to the body and left to the ribcage. he just did'nt seem to try it. It was just counters off the back foot at the head, at the end of his range.

I don't think he would have to had been reckless doing so.

[birddog]

Cotto has improved a lot over the last couple of years and became more adaptable. The reason he was 'thinking he was Mayweather' ? Thats the type of strategy he needed to show against Margarito. His defense, slipping, countering, his jab even more so, those are improved areas of his game. If you have more tools, why not use them. But flashes of a Chavez he needed to show at times of course to test Margarito.

IMO he testing Margarito early without being ouright wreckless.

I guess that's my point. he never tested margo, He never tried to impose his will on him and try to check margo's coming forward.

Where was the I'm coming forward behind my jab leading, with a right to the body and left to the ribcage. he just did'nt seem to try it. It was just counters off the back foot at the head, at the end of his range.

I don't think he would have to had been reckless doing so.

[divac]

Hey, Chavez was in the ring with Margarito after the fight.
Mexican's stick together.

I believe the HBO broadcast mentioned that JC Chavez was working as an analyst for the feed back to Mexico......

.....its too bad Chavez does'nt speak english.....I've had the pleasure of listening to his analysis and breakdown of a fight on some spanish networks back during the day when he was fighting.

The likes of Roy Jones Jr. and Lennox Lewis could'nt hold a candle to the way Chavez works the microphone with his analysis.
He really does knows the in's and out's and different style matchups of the fighters.

.....in any regards, its why Chavez was up there with Margarito.
I'd bet Chavez was up there interviewing Margarito for the Mexican feed.

What a memorable night for Margarito to beat Cotto and then get interviewed for all of Mexico to see by no other than his idol, the great JC Chavez!

[divac]

I guess that's my point. he never tested margo, He never tried to impose his will on him and try to check margo's coming forward.

Where was the I'm coming forward behind my jab leading, with a right to the body and left to the ribcage. he just did'nt seem to try it. It was just counters off the back foot at the head, at the end of his range.

I don't think he would have to had been reckless doing so.

A fighter knows, especially one the caliber of Cotto, when the other guy is just stronger, and testing him to the extent you wanted him too, just is'nt a wise choice.

Had Cotto "tested" Margarito to that extent of which you speak, we'd all be saying how stupid of Cotto to take the fight to Margarito when he was doing so well boxing......

.....and for the record, Cotto imo did test Margarito in every way.....even going as far at one point as squaring up and trying to match Margarito's strenghth..
Margarito own persistent and constant attack to Cotto's body just overwhelmed Cotto....Cotto could'nt match that type of body attack because Margarito was so much stronger squaring up.

The way I saw it, Cotto had no choice but to fight the way he did.
I thought Cotto fought great, and really dont see any adjustments that Cotto could have made that could have made a difference.
It might have not been a perfect fight by Cotto, but lets be honest here, he fought a great fight but it was'nt good enough to beat Margarito.
Both fighters I feel fought at their best, and Margarito's best won out!

[Addie]

He is scary.

Speaking of emotions, I think sad applies because I don't think Marg is going to be around for long.

He's been fighting since he was... what... 15? 17?

He's already eaten the shots of power punchers and maulers like Cintron and Cotto multiple times. And you just don't make a career out of that and have longevity, sadly.

Julio Cesar Chavez comes to mind.

[natonic]

The one adjustment I could see Cotto making is avoiding the scenario where he bends over with his gloves up, trying to slip and block Margarito's punches. He did it brilliantly at times but against a guy with Margarito's amazing work rate, he just took too much punishment. Cotto fought a great fight, I just think Margarito is wrong for him. I think the rematch would be easier for Margarito. Kind of like Pryor-Arguello.