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johnnyL
07-24-2008, 02:20 PM
I have had 5 amauter fights so far and I am currently 0-5. I have never been knocked out, been knocked down, or had a fight stopped ever. I have had 2 standing 8 counts. I started boxing at 14 and I had a couple fights.

My first fight I fought a kid w/ the same experience and he beat me cept it was a war and then I got too tired and I couldn't keep throwing and in the 3rd round he hit me alot. I lost a decison.

I then fought a guy with 11 fights who beat me on a decision that I imagine he won pretty decisively. Although I had him in trouble in early round I got too tired to keep it up.

My third fight I fought a kid with 13 fights who was very fast and I managed to keep up with him and lost a split decsion to him. Neither of us were ever really in trouble it was more of a jab war.

My fourth fight I fought a guy who I dominated in teh first round and then I thought I had such a lead on him I stopped throwing punches as much and I lost another split decsion. I was very frustrated because I thought I had won so I quit for about 15 months.

I then went back trained for about 5 months on and off and then had a fight with a much taller oppenant who was south paw with the same amount of fights as me maybe give or take 2, and I don't know what happened. I barely could land a shot and I was so damn tired the whole time I couldn't rush to the inside. I felt very embarrassed after this because I felt he made me look very bad.

I don't know what you guys think but I feel very frustrated because I don't feel like I can win. I am 17 years old now and haven't fought for a few months and I feel like I am complete garbage. I do well in the gym against other fighters who have winning records but I can't seem to win one myself! I don't know what my problem is either. I think it might be stamina or just when I get up there I start to fight differently. I just feel like a bum and maybe I shoudl quit!

amy
07-24-2008, 02:24 PM
Don't quit. 0-5 isn't a big deal. I've lost 8 of my fights. It's the amateurs, if you care about your record then you're going to be constantly disappointed. Did you improve and learn each time you fought? If you did then you are moving forward, winning and losing is secondary to whether or not you are learning and improving.

MrSmall
07-24-2008, 02:47 PM
Don't quit. 0-5 isn't a big deal. I've lost 8 of my fights. It's the amateurs, if you care about your record then you're going to be constantly disappointed. Did you improve and learn each time you fought? If you did then you are moving forward, winning and losing is secondary to whether or not you are learning and improving.

LOLZ U SUCK, QUITZ AMY!!!!111

Seriously though, to the original poster, if you feel like you're improving, or robbed, don't quit, carry on if you enjoy it.

If you don't enjoy it, take a break, see what's up.
Work on your weaknesses.

amy
07-24-2008, 02:51 PM
LOLZ U SUCK, QUITZ AMY!!!!111

Seriously though, to the original poster, if you feel like you're improving, or robbed, don't quit, carry on if you enjoy it.

If you don't enjoy it, take a break, see what's up.
Work on your weaknesses.

At least I've fought, which is more than you can say. :bart

MrSmall
07-24-2008, 02:55 PM
At least I've fought, which is more than you can say. :bart

Now that's just hitting below the belt!
:nonono

goldenboy
07-24-2008, 03:01 PM
the majority of fighters lose their first few, keep at it!

amy
07-24-2008, 03:06 PM
Now that's just hitting below the belt!
:nonono

Toughen up son! You gonna let a girl make you cry? :nono

MrSmall
07-24-2008, 03:16 PM
Toughen up son! You gonna let a girl make you cry? :nono

None of that!
I won't mention the time a girl bettered me in sparring, however. Pseudo-sparring, but still.
AHEM.

johnnyL
07-24-2008, 03:18 PM
alright guys thatnks for the input just wanted to make sure I wasn't going with a lost cause here. I think I'm gonna work on my stamina cause in my last fight the whole time I was thinking. No way I can do this when I am this tired, and thought I should have ran more.

TommyV
07-24-2008, 03:24 PM
Never quit in anything.

Your record means nothing in the amateurs, it's about experience and learning. Look at what you struggle with in fights and then look to improve upon it, that's all you can do. If you concentrate on improving upon your weaknesses and improving your abilities as a fighter, then it's in your own hands and you will start to win fights as you learn more and more each time you fight.

Good luck.

amy
07-24-2008, 03:24 PM
alright guys thatnks for the input just wanted to make sure I wasn't going with a lost cause here. I think I'm gonna work on my stamina cause in my last fight the whole time I was thinking. No way I can do this when I am this tired, and thought I should have ran more.
:thumbsup Good. conditioning is huge. A lot of novices underestimate how important it is. I think that's 99% of why I've won the fights that I have, they get tired and I'm just getting warmed up.

There's usually a turning point around bout #5 where things begin to click. Just work on what needs improving and get in shape.

good luck!

the prom queen
07-24-2008, 03:48 PM
if you quit and boxing is in your blood you will kick yourself in the fucking ass every day
I regret quitting the last time I tried it and kick myself in the ass constantly because of it
if its in your blood, you WILL go back and when you are panting and almost puking in the gym then you will undertand why you shouldnt have quit

johnnyL
07-24-2008, 04:21 PM
Yea I guess so... I just think maybe I thought it would be alot easier than I thought it was. If I just had better stamina than my oppenants by a signifgant amount I could have probably won all of my fights now that I think about it... THey never outclassed me to the point where I got knocked down or stopped. I think I am gonna try to get in shape and fight when I feel I'm ready. Sometimes they would ask if I would want to participate in a show and I would feel bad saying no or thought it would look like I was chickening out so I would say yes. I'm not gonna go until I feel that I am ready to.

jimmie
07-24-2008, 06:22 PM
I lost 3 of my first 6 dont worry bout it bro.

FromWithin
07-24-2008, 09:43 PM
Teofilo Stevenson, 3-times Olympic Gold Medallist lost 14 of his 20 first amateur bouts and I'm sure there's plenty of other examples.

Train harder and I'm sure you will succeed

Cobra33
07-25-2008, 12:34 AM
Reggie Johnson went 0-4 in his first Am bouts-He latter went on to become a 2 time pro boxing champion.

Kolya
07-25-2008, 12:59 AM
Yes dont lisetn to these guys. iam bein real the most important thing in boxing is ur amatuer record. with out a good amatuer record urs is 0-5:( u can 4get about goin pro. after 2 1/2 months ai was aseked if i wanted to start doing amatuer boxing i declined. i wanna better perpare my self the worst thing i wanna do is start off with a bad amatuer record.


You're an idiot. Amateur records mean fuck all; what matters in the amateurs is how you do, how your skills develop, and eventually what national tournaments you compete in and especially which ones you win if you want to make money at it.

ben1990
07-25-2008, 02:04 AM
amatuer record is the most important record it can easily decide if ur good enough to go pro. hes 0-5 who in thier rite mind is gonna take a look at him. how the fuck is he gonna compete in natinoal tournaments with a rec as 0-5. man fucking get a grip on life ru just dumb or u dumber. ur probably a fat load who dont even box.

To be hoenst I think that an amauter record isn't required to get into any tournaments... You just have to win the the bouts in the tournament... doesn't matter if you show up 0-100 at the golden gloves if you win the elimnation bouts you can still be the Golden glove champion. You are an idiot.

jimmie
07-25-2008, 02:21 AM
amatuer record is the most important record it can easily decide if ur good enough to go pro. hes 0-5 who in thier rite mind is gonna take a look at him. how the fuck is he gonna compete in natinoal tournaments with a rec as 0-5. man fucking get a grip on life ru just dumb or u dumber. ur probably a fat load who dont even box.

You really need to chill out man and stop running your mouth especially when your talking about Koyla you are losing any chance of ever gaining crediblity. Koyla isnt even close to a fat load the man has been boxing in tournaments all around this country and has actually showed some fights here as proof hes a quite knowledgable person. You cant even spell yet you have the gaul to disrespect a ESB vet whos probablly had more bouts in a day then you have in your life jackass.

Duhswag
07-25-2008, 02:39 AM
how the fuck is koyla gonna say a amatuer record means shit and i dont give a fuk who he is.. ok what the fuck is a esb vet. get real!

Lmfao It doesn't... Boxers have started with no amateur fights and gotten some recognition in the profesional world. Your record in the amateurs makes no difference whether or not you can fight in a tournament, you just have to win qualifiers. :patsch

oaklandstephen
07-25-2008, 05:27 AM
pernell whitaker lost his first 3 amature fights

Quickhands21
07-25-2008, 01:22 PM
The point of amateur fights is to improve.thats why there there,Keep at it an just relax an stay focused.Just bust your ass in the gym an out of it

joe the great
07-25-2008, 01:32 PM
I have had 5 amauter fights so far and I am currently 0-5. I have never been knocked out, been knocked down, or had a fight stopped ever. I have had 2 standing 8 counts. I started boxing at 14 and I had a couple fights.

My first fight I fought a kid w/ the same experience and he beat me cept it was a war and then I got too tired and I couldn't keep throwing and in the 3rd round he hit me alot. I lost a decison.

I then fought a guy with 11 fights who beat me on a decision that I imagine he won pretty decisively. Although I had him in trouble in early round I got too tired to keep it up.

My third fight I fought a kid with 13 fights who was very fast and I managed to keep up with him and lost a split decsion to him. Neither of us were ever really in trouble it was more of a jab war.

My fourth fight I fought a guy who I dominated in teh first round and then I thought I had such a lead on him I stopped throwing punches as much and I lost another split decsion. I was very frustrated because I thought I had won so I quit for about 15 months.

I then went back trained for about 5 months on and off and then had a fight with a much taller oppenant who was south paw with the same amount of fights as me maybe give or take 2, and I don't know what happened. I barely could land a shot and I was so damn tired the whole time I couldn't rush to the inside. I felt very embarrassed after this because I felt he made me look very bad.

I don't know what you guys think but I feel very frustrated because I don't feel like I can win. I am 17 years old now and haven't fought for a few months and I feel like I am complete garbage. I do well in the gym against other fighters who have winning records but I can't seem to win one myself! I don't know what my problem is either. I think it might be stamina or just when I get up there I start to fight differently. I just feel like a bum and maybe I shoudl quit! Sounds like your learning. If you like it stick to it. I have a kid boxing under me who is 0-3 , but two of his fights were Split decision losses and even the third (that fight was for a State Title) one he won one round of three. All three kids were 11 and he was only 10.
There was a fighter who went 0-7 and went on to win a Nation Amateur Championship. His name was Ronnie Warrior. So you never know what might happen if you train hard and keep learning. Since you aren't getting knocked out you may consider sticking with it. If your heart isn't in it though then you might as well quit. Is your heart in it?

bigeddie27
07-25-2008, 01:46 PM
man your 17 wtf. if you kept training hardcore for 10 years imagine how good you could be? It sounds like you got stamina issues. just run like 10 miles a day and see what happens.

Two Fisted Piston
07-25-2008, 01:59 PM
I lost 3 of my first 6 dont worry bout it bro.

Happens to all of us!

I went through a stage when I was 16 where I lost 4 of 6 fights.. it was when i was only making my transition from youth to senior boxing.
And i can assure you you'll learn alot more in defeat than if you're getting easy wins..i got hungrier...and angrier.. Ive lost 10 fights now and been stopped twice and still Ive won 30 fights and 7 on the trot.
Don't quit!!!!!!!!:good

Rob3
07-25-2008, 03:44 PM
Henry Armstrong lost 3 of his first 4 fights yet was one of the greatest fighters ever within a couple of years. Keept at it :good . If your posting in a few years time with a 0-100 record of course then it might be time to reconsider.

amy
07-25-2008, 03:52 PM
I have a friend who has lost over 50 bouts and is ranked #4 in the nation. Records don't matter, it's how well you progress at tournaments....and of course, if you are enjoying it.

HairyHighlander
07-25-2008, 05:13 PM
saw your question/post, read half the post, keep going, kid i trained with was 0-7, next he was junior national champ, experience, time and a place,strong character. You already aint quit, keep going, plus points? you can handle a loss, keep going :)

:thumbsup

P S didnt read replys, hope i didnt repeat them :) keep going :D

Adaptation
07-25-2008, 11:41 PM
Ya musta forgot that amateur is there just for that. To improve so that when you go pro you dont get stomped. Dont worry bro.

If you fall, get up and try again. And if you drop, get up and try again.

Juelz Santana - The second coming

JMonster
07-26-2008, 05:23 PM
depends how old u r. but if ur still young, then o well. it's only amateurs neways

Primadonna Kool
07-26-2008, 05:44 PM
I have had 5 amauter fights so far and I am currently 0-5. I have never been knocked out, been knocked down, or had a fight stopped ever. I have had 2 standing 8 counts. I started boxing at 14 and I had a couple fights.

My first fight I fought a kid w/ the same experience and he beat me cept it was a war and then I got too tired and I couldn't keep throwing and in the 3rd round he hit me alot. I lost a decison.

I then fought a guy with 11 fights who beat me on a decision that I imagine he won pretty decisively. Although I had him in trouble in early round I got too tired to keep it up.

My third fight I fought a kid with 13 fights who was very fast and I managed to keep up with him and lost a split decsion to him. Neither of us were ever really in trouble it was more of a jab war.

My fourth fight I fought a guy who I dominated in teh first round and then I thought I had such a lead on him I stopped throwing punches as much and I lost another split decsion. I was very frustrated because I thought I had won so I quit for about 15 months.

I then went back trained for about 5 months on and off and then had a fight with a much taller oppenant who was south paw with the same amount of fights as me maybe give or take 2, and I don't know what happened. I barely could land a shot and I was so damn tired the whole time I couldn't rush to the inside. I felt very embarrassed after this because I felt he made me look very bad.

I don't know what you guys think but I feel very frustrated because I don't feel like I can win. I am 17 years old now and haven't fought for a few months and I feel like I am complete garbage. I do well in the gym against other fighters who have winning records but I can't seem to win one myself! I don't know what my problem is either. I think it might be stamina or just when I get up there I start to fight differently. I just feel like a bum and maybe I shoudl quit!

No..

MasterFlo
07-28-2008, 10:20 AM
Librado Andrade lost every single amateur fight he ever had, and then went on to be 24-0 as a pro before meeting Kessler, a fight which he made $500,000 for. And in October he's fighting for another world title. Some people's styles don't suit the am's and sometimes people need to learn the hard way. As well some people aren't cut out for it, and if you're asking if you should quit, then yes you should. If you're going to be commited to something you're going to have to love it and never question it.

Kolya
07-28-2008, 11:20 AM
Librado Andrade lost every single amateur fight he ever had, and then went on to be 24-0 as a pro before meeting Kessler, a fight which he made $500,000 for. And in October he's fighting for another world title. Some people's styles don't suit the am's and sometimes people need to learn the hard way. As well some people aren't cut out for it, and if you're asking if you should quit, then yes you should. If you're going to be commited to something you're going to have to love it and never question it.


In Librado's defense; I think he did win 2 amateur fights. But he's susceptible to being outboxed. But anyone can rack up a 24-0 record if they have some amateur experience and a decent promoter and manager to get the right fights in the pros.

derrick
07-30-2008, 10:44 PM
Quit before you get hurt. You have already be down 2 times. You just don;t have the chin to be a boxer.

joekirkbycobra
07-31-2008, 03:56 AM
i ad a mate who went 1- 13 as a junior the 1 bein his last junior fight
then as a senior started winnin n e ended up fightin 4 england

joekirkbycobra
07-31-2008, 03:57 AM
johnny nelson was won 3 lost 13 as a amateur n e won a world title

Ajfourty7
08-03-2008, 03:01 PM
Definatley NOT. Ive heard of guys who lost there first 10-15 bouts then became senior and started cleaning up. Like joe said. Also Loadsa guys with amazing records to start with then suddenly becoming bob seemingly over night.

Bazooka
08-03-2008, 03:14 PM
if your currently 0 - 5 why are you your trainer and the officials allowing you to fight a man with 11 fights? seriously your novice he is open why or how did this happen?

Vantage_West
08-03-2008, 04:50 PM
they call it galvanisation.

you may have a jab and maybe some power and even decent conditioning in the gym but once you hit a moving opponant it doesnt always compute.

after a while it will all flow together. you wont look any different and you wont fight any different but you will win fights. also you got to find your style.

besides, you are winning rounds. gettign knocked down is a shame but usually it's just the shock of leather smacking your face. the usual response with me was to turn away (embarassing in the gym), it was natural to do but looks terrible and can lose you rounds and lose you fights.

whats your conditioning like. to me you seem to judah. get off to a decent start, then just dont have enough puff to finish it though. conditioning goes a long long way. most boxers win due to there stamina alone.

johnnyL
08-03-2008, 07:37 PM
if your currently 0 - 5 why are you your trainer and the officials allowing you to fight a man with 11 fights? seriously your novice he is open why or how did this happen?


I was a junior at the time (under 17) and when I would sign up for Junior olympics and stuff there was ussually only one oppenant for it. And they happened to have more fights. If there were kids with equal amount of fights they would have matched me with em. Just at that age group there was no1 else to fight. So I foguht kids with 10 more fights a few time.

Also I don't know if I wasn't clear or something, but I wasn't actually knocked down I just got standing 8. Which means ref wasn't sure if I was ok or not and you have to just show you want to fight by putting your hands up. First time I got one I was stunned from a combo second time I got one it was cause I wasn't throwin any cause I was tired so he wanted to make sure I was still ok. And I was so I don't think chin is my problem. I'm pretty sure it is just stamina. I need to figure out a good running program and stick to it. I know for fact I am not too slow or not strong enough. In every fight I have thrown less punches so I need to change that now.