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Barge FTA
07-25-2007, 05:28 AM
i just saw that tomorrow night in Darwin,
Shannan Taylor will fight a guy with no recorded professional record & Les Sherrington will fight a guy with 4 fights for 4 losses.

How can they serve up this shit to the people of Darwin? How can the ANBF sanction this shit, when they wouldn't allow Mundine to fight Darmel Castillo?

westside
07-25-2007, 05:38 AM
you might also want to question taylor & les' ambitions the same way everyone did to mundine?

MSTR
07-25-2007, 05:51 AM
:lol::lol:

Sounds ridiculous to me

ashley
07-25-2007, 05:52 AM
F... that looks a bit sad!

EelsRule
07-25-2007, 05:59 AM
How many times has Taylor retired?

westside
07-25-2007, 06:06 AM
it appears shannan is fighting sonni in september!
should be interesting

ipswich express
07-25-2007, 06:27 AM
Spoke to Les about it after Choc v Argie and he said he's not real wrapped about it, but he doesn't choose his opponents and it's nothing more than a keep active fight before Sean Connell.

westside
07-25-2007, 06:29 AM
and connell is a keep active fight too?.. thats almost as bad!

ipswich express
07-25-2007, 06:33 AM
Love to hear your theory on that one, do tell.

westside
07-25-2007, 06:45 AM
Love to hear your theory on that one, do tell.

me?

ipswich express
07-25-2007, 06:50 AM
yep

westside
07-25-2007, 06:50 AM
im just saying its gonna be a pretty one sided affair.

ipswich express
07-25-2007, 06:55 AM
It's a much better step up then the keep busy fight v the Thai. You didn't say that.

shiner
07-25-2007, 07:50 AM
4 wins for 4 losses at this stage of his carrer is flaming woefull. what, does his manager put a gun to his head and make him fight? when les was asked or told about the guy he is fighting, he could have said, umm, NO!!!!!! phfft, doesnt chose his fights. he bloody chose this!!!

westside
07-25-2007, 07:52 AM
4 wins for 4 losses at this stage of his carrer is flaming woefull. what, does his manager put a gun to his head and make him fight? when les was asked or told about the guy he is fighting, he could have said, umm, NO!!!!!! phfft, doesnt chose his fights. he bloody chose this!!!

agree!

westside
07-25-2007, 08:25 AM
to be honest, aren't most aussie fight nights a joke ? when you see the line up of aussies against other foreign boxers??

yup. its not getting any better.
im gonna chat to who i know n see where we're headed. surely someones got some vision out there??

ipswich express
07-25-2007, 09:29 PM
So what you're saying is that you'd turn down a couple of grand as a PROFESSIONAL because his record was not good enough...yeah right.

Barge FTA
07-25-2007, 09:31 PM
my point is that they should not sanction the Taylor fight. it appears to be a total mismatch. this guy could get badly hurt.

MSTR
07-25-2007, 10:15 PM
my point is that they should not sanction the Taylor fight. it appears to be a total mismatch. this guy could get badly hurt.
I agree with out that the fight shouldn't be sanctioned. Thee guys definitely aren't doing there job. It probably doesn't help though that we don't have that many pro boxers in Australia, so the opponents to choose from is fairly limited.

MSTR
07-25-2007, 10:17 PM
:thumbsup

its easy to forget the reality that most australian boxers need to take any fight they can get. not everyone's seeing ODLH type money
It is easy to forget. Its always interesting to see what guys have to say who are actually involved in it because they bring a diffferent perspective then we have, and are much more realistic. I think a lot of us (myself included) have high expectations based on what we see in international boxing.

Bobby
07-25-2007, 10:18 PM
i fought a late replacement in nz once, i went there to fight tutaki , my sponsor came over and we spent some of our own money to get flights and i wasnt getting paid much, tutaki took another fight and at the last minute i got an opponent, 12-0 in no rules but 0-2 in boxing, i fought him for money, and to improve my record, and to make sure my sponsor didnt come to nz for nothing, and i got bad mouthed for it, but i didnt see any other solution, it usually comes down to $$$ for the avg fighter

ipswich express
07-25-2007, 10:20 PM
i fought a late replacement in nz once, i went there to fight tutaki , my sponsor came over and we spent some of our own money to get flights and i wasnt getting paid much, tutaki took another fight and at the last minute i got an opponent, 12-0 in no rules but 0-2 in boxing, i fought him for money, and to improve my record, and to make sure my sponsor didnt come to nz for nothing, and i got bad mouthed for it, but i didnt see any other solution, it usually comes down to $$$ for the avg fighter

Spot on...

MSTR
07-25-2007, 10:27 PM
i fought a late replacement in nz once, i went there to fight tutaki , my sponsor came over and we spent some of our own money to get flights and i wasnt getting paid much, tutaki took another fight and at the last minute i got an opponent, 12-0 in no rules but 0-2 in boxing, i fought him for money, and to improve my record, and to make sure my sponsor didnt come to nz for nothing, and i got bad mouthed for it, but i didnt see any other solution, it usually comes down to $$$ for the avg fighter
Great example. I am slowly coming around on the train of though that respects the fighters choice in opponents more, although i am still a highly critical c*nt when it comes down to it. Boxing fans are probably some of the hardest to please out of any sport IMO.

Bobby
07-25-2007, 10:31 PM
more than once i have signed to fight a good aussie heavyweight, and they have pulled out for some reason last minute, you have trained your ass off, and you just want to fight, you spend so long mentally preparing yourself its good to just fight. there are alot of mismatches in aussie boxing but im sure if holyfield would fight me in perth for 1000$ id fight him, but obv you only get what you can afford

MSTR
07-25-2007, 10:35 PM
more than once i have signed to fight a good aussie heavyweight, and they have pulled out for some reason last minute, you have trained your ass off, and you just want to fight, you spend so long mentally preparing yourself its good to just fight. there are alot of mismatches in aussie boxing but im sure if holyfield would fight me in perth for 1000$ id fight him, but obv you only get what you can afford
Cool. A lot of this stuff doesn't really get considered by the average fan. I can't imagine how frustrating it must be to mentally prepare yourself for a big fight only to have it fall through on you. Thats why the states would be so much better, because you know at least that the depth of fighters is so much greater then over here.

Barge FTA
07-25-2007, 11:18 PM
so Bobby, are you saying that any fight should be sanctioned?

Kegsy
07-25-2007, 11:19 PM
Its easy to complain about this card, but the fact is we have very few professional boxers in Australia & at least the Darwin people get to witness some boxing.

Bobby
07-26-2007, 02:36 AM
barge, no, im saying dont blame the fighters , if they sanction it or not not the fighters fault who they fight most of the time

ipswich express
07-26-2007, 08:26 AM
so Bobby, are you saying that any fight should be sanctioned?

I think what he's saying is that: fighters fight. Often they don't have much of a say, whether it be finacial constraints, or the fact that in Oz there's not a large pool to choose from. Certainly this is the case at a domestic level.

Barge FTA
07-26-2007, 08:00 PM
Sherrington won by KO 2
Taylor won KO 6

A waste of everyones time! they should be ashamed!

Kegsy
07-26-2007, 08:03 PM
Sherrington won by KO 2
Taylor won KO 6

A waste of everyones time! they should be ashamed!
Sherrington's match from reports was a massive mismatch.

Which could have been seen from a mile away.:yep

ipswich express
07-26-2007, 09:42 PM
I don't think anyone's surprised by the results. But the promoter makes the fights, the fighter fights them. End of...

MSTR
07-26-2007, 11:27 PM
I don't think anyone's surprised by the results. But the promoter makes the fights, the fighter fights them. End of...
End of what? End of WHAT? Cmon mate don't leave me hanging. The anticipation is killing me.

Marcus
07-26-2007, 11:27 PM
Can i guess?



It :happy

Dr Gonzo
07-26-2007, 11:28 PM
conversation?

silvy_chris
07-27-2007, 03:24 AM
yeah most of the aussie boxing shows are genrally pretty shit. some realy shit promotions and yeah there is the odd good show, they rarely (maybe ones a yr) get shown on foxsports and its ussualy some fat QLD heavyweight thats 44 and making a pro debut.

T.C.W
07-27-2007, 08:50 PM
I a friend of Les it was just a keep busy fight for him, He won't 7 fights this year at least and it was something for him at this stage of his career, it means he is in the gym and training all the time.

EelsRule
07-27-2007, 10:45 PM
I dont buy this crap that Shannon Taylor doesnt have any say in who he fights. Its garbage.

ipswich express
07-28-2007, 04:12 AM
Who mentioned the blaster? PS- It's Shannan.

shiner
07-28-2007, 04:20 AM
bobby, are you serious about holyfield??? you would be lucky to last a round against him. he is actually one of the modern greats, he is past his best, but in 10 years he is way to gd for you still. no offence , but he bangs a lot harder than digger wyborn, and throws 5 times more and 5 times more accurately, and so on.

ipswich express
07-28-2007, 04:28 AM
He's a fighter...why wouldn't he if the price is right? I've been beaten up for less...

shanemfr
07-28-2007, 05:57 AM
bobby, are you marc de mori?
It is , and he could beat the shit out of all of us here on the same night if he felt the need to :shock:

Bobby
07-28-2007, 06:53 AM
yes i am mark de mori, ive posted here for a long long time when i started getting into boxing.

shiner, i would happily fight holyfield, i have nothing to lose and would be happy to get out of my comfort zone and confront danger head on

ashley
07-28-2007, 06:57 AM
yes i am mark de mori, ive posted here for a long long time when i started getting into boxing.

shiner, i would happily fight holyfield, i have nothing to lose and would be happy to get out of my comfort zone and confront danger head on

It would be a great story...fighting Holyfield...the guy is a legend..go for it if you get the chance :good

Bobby
07-28-2007, 07:00 AM
when he was supposed to come to oz i got my manager to put my name on the list, i have nothing to lose and everything to gain, but holy would have nothing to gain now hes near a title shot but was good to dream about fighting such an inspiration to me

shanemfr
07-28-2007, 09:22 AM
Mark you stil at H/W and hand me your shoulder routine you use for weights.

Bobby
07-28-2007, 10:38 PM
def heavyweight , re my weights i am currently writing out my programs so i can send the lot to you,

MSTR
07-28-2007, 11:39 PM
yes i am mark de mori, ive posted here for a long long time when i started getting into boxing.

shiner, i would happily fight holyfield, i have nothing to lose and would be happy to get out of my comfort zone and confront danger head on

If i were boxing professionally I reckon I would share your mentality. Fighting a true great is not just about the money. It would be awesome just to go in and give it everything, and be able to tel people thatyou fought one of boxings true legends. It sounds dumb, but you don't really have anything to lose. No one is expecting you to win, so if you lose then really you have lost nothing, but if you win the skys the limit.

Barge FTA
07-29-2007, 01:43 AM
Bobby, how could you lose KO1 to John Wyborn? i saw him fight Nader Hamden and he didn't have much of a punch. i would have given up after that if i were you. credit to keep going though.

WhataRock
07-29-2007, 01:53 AM
Anyone who knows John "Digger" Wyborn knows he is like the Emmanual Augustus of Aussie boxing, the guy fought from supermiddle to heavy on a moments notice and always gave a good effort. At the very least he made the fights suprisingly close, sometimes getting the upset.
To most these were shock upsets but the guys who have seen Digger over the years knew that if you didnt take John seriously you could easily loose.

Thats a fight Mark cant erase but honestly Wyborn is no slouch, he could beat most of the guys that Haumano, N. Briggs and Hoppa etc recycle.

Bobby
07-29-2007, 01:57 AM
barge ,wyborn dropped briggs and mirovic too, and hurt homouno bad, he can hit, i went in underdone and wild and he made me pay, no substitute for experience. have a look at the record of alexis arguello, knocked out by 3-6 guy in his 11 th fight, have a look at joe bugners record, knocked out in his first fight, mike weaver, 1 win 3 looses after 4 fights, your only as good as your last fight, they didnt quit and look what happened, millions more examples, fans are obsessed with records

Barge FTA
07-29-2007, 05:00 AM
yes, that's why i said credit to you for not giving up. you have come back from the first round knock out well. would john grant you a rematch? and if so, would you take it?

Bobby
07-29-2007, 07:39 AM
barge , john is retired as far as i know, i dont think anyone can look good against wyborn but yes for my own ego i guess id prob do it

shanemfr
07-29-2007, 09:38 AM
def heavyweight , re my weights i am currently writing out my programs so i can send the lot to you,
Well hurry the fuck up instead of conversing with us turds lol, could u make light heavy at all?

teke
07-29-2007, 09:40 AM
Well hurry the fuck up instead of conversing with us turds lol, could u make light heavy at all?If that is mark in his avatar i dont fuckin think he'd make light heavy weight if he cut off both his arms and legs.

shanemfr
07-29-2007, 10:10 AM
If that is mark in his avatar i dont fuckin think he'd make light heavy weight if he cut off both his arms and legs.
If i sliced my dong off i would go from heavy weight to welter, so knock those absurd comment s off about the physical abilities of us men.

teke
07-29-2007, 11:16 AM
If i sliced my dong off i would go from heavy weight to welter, so knock those absurd comment s off about the physical abilities of us men.:lol::lol:

shanemfr
07-29-2007, 12:50 PM
:lol::lol:
Your thinley veiled threats that you cover up as laughs have been sent to the FBI.

teke
07-29-2007, 01:15 PM
Your thinley veiled threats that you cover up as laughs have been sent to the FBI.:hand:fuckoff:hi:

Cobra33
07-29-2007, 02:09 PM
I live in the USA and I'll tell you this:Rocky has done more for boxing in Australia then Mundine ever will.
And remember Mundine said the USA deserved the attack on 9/11.It was a cruel and unjust statement.
I would never pay to see Mudine fight because of that statement.

Dr Gonzo
07-29-2007, 07:12 PM
I live in the USA and I'll tell you this:Rocky has done more for boxing in Australia then Mundine ever will.
And remember Mundine said the USA deserved the attack on 9/11.It was a cruel and unjust statement.
I would never pay to see Mudine fight because of that statement.

i tried to say that the other day and got stomped on :huh

Barge FTA
07-29-2007, 08:09 PM
I live in the USA and I'll tell you this:Rocky has done more for boxing in Australia then Mundine ever will.
And remember Mundine said the USA deserved the attack on 9/11.It was a cruel and unjust statement.
I would never pay to see Mudine fight because of that statement.

When you say "more for boxing in Australia" what do you mean?

MSTR
07-29-2007, 08:39 PM
When you say "more for boxing in Australia" what do you mean?
I don't agree with the statement personally, but I think he is saying given Australian fighters more exposure within American which would be correct. Mundine has done more for boxing within Australia however.

Bobby
07-29-2007, 09:23 PM
shane, why would i want to make light heavy? for a pay cut? the lightest i will ever fight at is prob 103kg, currently im 108

teke
07-29-2007, 11:03 PM
i tried to say that the other day and got stomped on :huhYou didnt stomped on you goose :lol:

Im interested to know how Kat has done more for Aussie boxing aswsell

Cobra33
07-29-2007, 11:10 PM
I'm interested in how MUNDINE has done anything for boxing in Australia?
Kat has drawn interest in the USA.If he was to get to star status I would pay to see him fight.And if he could comeback to fight in Australia for a really big fight against a name opponent one of the major networks would piut it on TV.

teke
07-29-2007, 11:21 PM
I'm interested in how MUNDINE has done anything for boxing in Australia?
Kat has drawn interest in the USA.If he was to get to star status I would pay to see him fight.And if he could comeback to fight in Australia for a really big fight against a name opponent one of the major networks would piut it on TV.Drawn huge interest in Australian boxing over since 2001 when there was absolutely noone here with any pulling power apart from KT

Dr Gonzo
07-29-2007, 11:21 PM
You didnt stomped on you goose :lol:

Im interested to know how Kat has done more for Aussie boxing aswsell

haha i know - i was just trying to stir some shit :good

MSTR
07-29-2007, 11:31 PM
I'm interested in how MUNDINE has done anything for boxing in Australia?
Kat has drawn interest in the USA.If he was to get to star status I would pay to see him fight.And if he could comeback to fight in Australia for a really big fight against a name opponent one of the major networks would piut it on TV.
He has continued to raise the exposure of the sport significantly, as many people in Aus want to see him knocked out. He is contraversial and had caught the eye of the media much more then any other fighter including Katsidis, although internationally I think Kat and Vic are bigger names, as they have appeared on major PPV cards.

WhataRock
07-30-2007, 06:32 AM
One thing also the number of boxing promotions per year went down in the period between 2000-2005.

We had way more per year in the 80's and 90's.

Mundine made the most out of it, not Aussie boxing.