Maskaev has started training for ....

[Shpion]

Just read an article on Russian news that Maskaev has already started his training for his title defense against Sam Peter. While the negotiations about the purse split with don king are still in progress, according to Maskaev it looks like both camps will come to a concensus. don king's office confirmed it.

[pipe wrenched]

Damn that's good news. Hopefully no more talks of interim and such.

[Shpion]

Damn that's good news. Hopefully no more talks of interim and such.

I hope so too. But with all the "honest and respectable" parties involved, the situation can change any moment 360 degrees.

[Odo]

Just read an article on Russian news that Maskaev has already started his training for his title defense against Sam Peter. While the negotiations about the purse split with don king are still in progress, according to Maskaev it looks like both camps will come to a concensus. don king's office confirmed it.

I very much hope that Maskaev kicks the African 's ass out of the ring.
45% of the purse is a joke! Who the hell does Sam's camp think their boy is?
An American based African who cant even sell enough tickets to fill a local American box arena.Nevertheless his camp demands 45% of the purse!
Damn! He is the title challenger-not the reigning champ.
Would be glad to see Vitaly vs Maskaev come off!

[0-1]

Would be glad to see Vitaly vs Maskaev come off!

Well, let's hope that Maskaev somehow manages to beat Peter (hopefully with a ref who stops the blows round the back of the head) and then he can make a super-fight with Vitali.

Let's also hope that it doesn't all go wrong and we end up with Jameel McCline versus Samuel Peter... That would be awful!

[ThePlugInBabies]

Well, let's hope that Maskaev somehow manages to beat Peter (hopefully with a ref who stops the blows round the back of the head) and then he can make a super-fight with Vitali.

Let's also hope that it doesn't all go wrong and we end up with Jameel McCline versus Samuel Peter... That would be awful!

if/when one of the klits lose again this forum will go into meltdown, i can see it now.

[Sug3]

How many times has maskaev been knocked out,i see peter knocking maskev out in the first round,we all know peter has a iron chin and i cant say maskaev surviving 1 punch from peter.

[Slothrop]

Maskaev KO2.

[Kostya Zoo]

some people seem to forget just how much Sam Peter sucks.

This is a 50-50 fight the way I see it, and I'll be rooting for Maskaev all the way.

[ThePlugInBabies]

How many times has maskaev been knocked out,i see peter knocking maskev out in the first round,we all know peter has a iron chin and i cant say maskaev surviving 1 punch from peter.

but big sam's power punch's are so slow he sends you a note in advance to tell you roughly when it will be arriving.

[Armo_Ruski]

lol at the person who wrote how many times has maskaev been knocked out?? let me ask u this, when was the last time maskaev was knocked out?? how many years ago??? maskaev tko peter rd8!!!

[JETSKI]

(((((((((:ko GO OLEG:ko )))))))))

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Maskaev will show him how its done...:!:

[Shpion]

but big sam's power punch's are so slow he sends you a note in advance to tell you roughly when it will be arriving.


:rofl :rofl

Common, he is not that slow.

[ThePlugInBabies]

:rofl :rofl

Common, he is not that slow.

ok a little harsh but still he winds up his shots too slowly.

[Jose FM]

Well, let's hope that Maskaev somehow manages to beat Peter (hopefully with a ref who stops the blows round the back of the head) and then he can make a super-fight with Vitali.

Let's also hope that it doesn't all go wrong and we end up with Jameel McCline versus Samuel Peter... That would be awful!
It wouldnt cause Klitschko is emeritus! So it would be Peter-Vitali, but probably like in January, since Vitali has a fight already.

[slugfest]

How many times has maskaev been knocked out,i see peter knocking maskev out in the first round,we all know peter has a iron chin and i cant say maskaev surviving 1 punch from peter.

I cannot understand why so many consider Sam Peter such a big puncher? All of his big fights ended in decisions. I am sure he can hit and he is obviously very strong physically, but I have not been impressed to the level of some of you! Maskaev has been KOed, but he has also faced good competition since early in his career and has only been KOed a few times. This includes a young David Tua who Oleg was having a close fight with until he got caught with a big punch late in the fight! Sam Peter has not shown me he is in the same company as a young David Tua (not yet!). This could be an interesting fight. Oleg is the better boxer with more experience and he can bang pretty good too! Sam Peter showed improvement when he fought Toney the 2nd time, but he lacks hand speed which will make it hard for him to land at will on Oleg. Peter is also easy to hit and Oleg can hit just as hard as Peter can in my opinion....

[Chief_Second]

peter will take a laboured split decision with maskaev peeling himself off the canvas a couple of times.

[Scar]

Can't wait for this fight, best of luck to both fighters.

[1-Ton]

It drives me crazy that so many think it's a foregone conclusion that Peter will win this fight, and easily. I'm not counting Peter out, but outside of Wlad, Oleg will be his toughest opponent to date. The Big O is going to give Peter a fight, and will IMO, win a UD. Of course, Peter still has a puncher's chance, but I'm afraid that after the Toney fights that he may fancy himself a boxer and try to match skills with Maskaev rather than try to KO him.

[Chief_Second]

It drives me crazy that so many think it's a foregone conclusion that Peter will win this fight, and easily. I'm not counting Peter out, but outside of Wlad, Oleg will be his toughest opponent to date. The Big O is going to give Peter a fight, and will IMO, win a UD. Of course, Peter still has a puncher's chance, but I'm afraid that after the Toney fights that he may fancy himself a boxer and try to match skills with Maskaev rather than try to KO him.

i hear you but peter wins 8/10 times for me. he's got the tools to do what rahman, okhello, sam couldn't do and the skills to do what mccall, tua, johnson, whitaker and saunders did do

[Shpion]

It drives me crazy that so many think it's a foregone conclusion that Peter will win this fight, and easily. I'm not counting Peter out, but outside of Wlad, Oleg will be his toughest opponent to date. The Big O is going to give Peter a fight, and will IMO, win a UD. Of course, Peter still has a puncher's chance, but I'm afraid that after the Toney fights that he may fancy himself a boxer and try to match skills with Maskaev rather than try to KO him.

I actually think that the outcome of this fight will largely depend on Peter's condition. If he show up in obese shape, I would give Maskaev a good chance to outbox him.

[Max Molyneux]

Maskaev throws a good straight right, don't rate Peter much except for power which he seems to land on the back of the head most of the time.

[Sug3]

What i wanna know is why is holyfield beating all these heavyweights now and it wasn't that long ago james toney gave him a beating.

[JETSKI]

Maskaev throws a good straight right, don't rate Peter much except for power which he seems to land on the back of the head most of the time.

That avatar of yours...it that Joe C. getting ready for the Liverpool Gay Parade???

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[brooklyn1550]

Hopefully the fight happens this year...

Peter by KO

[Max Molyneux]

That avatar of yours...it that Joe C. getting ready for the Liverpool Gay Parade???

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No, he's training for Kessler by Invading a small Polish village.

[Mr "T"]

Well, let's hope that Maskaev somehow manages to beat Peter (hopefully with a ref who stops the blows round the back of the head) and then he can make a super-fight with Vitali.

Let's also hope that it doesn't all go wrong and we end up with Jameel McCline versus Samuel Peter... That would be awful!
McCline could win that fight.

[Caper]

It drives me crazy:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: that so many think it's a foregone conclusion that Peter will win this fight, and easily. I'm not counting Peter out, but outside of Wlad, Oleg will be his toughest opponent to date. The Big O is going to give Peter a fight, and will IMO, win a UD. Of course, Peter still has a puncher's chance, but I'm afraid that after the Toney fights that he may fancy himself a boxer and try to match skills with Maskaev rather than try to KO him.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Peter via KO and easy......:hey :yep

[Heavyrighthand]

Good to hear that promising news. Let's hope this thing don't get derailed, again, after so many false starts.

Go Maskaev! :good

Just make sure you duck when you see Peter starting to wind up. :lol:

[The Kurgan]

Maskaev has a shot here. Not a good shot, but if he can win the battle of the jabs and comes with a well-conditioned body, he can pull this one off. However, I think Peter will break him down and stop him in the middle rounds.

[JETSKI]

No, he's training for Kessler by Invading a small Polish village.

A small Polish village? Where, down the street from you in Liverpool?:good

[aliwasthegreatest]

i want oleg to win so bad so he can get the one huge payday before he goes out. but iunno, i guess we'll have to wait and see on this one.

[Sug3]

The fight is confirmed for oct 6th,both fighter's singed the contract,but like i said peter will still win by ko.

[DamonD]

Just damn glad this fight is happening!

[Sputnik44]

How many times has maskaev been knocked out,i see peter knocking maskev out in the first round,we all know peter has a iron chin and i cant say maskaev surviving 1 punch from peter.

did you copy and paste this from the thread before the Wlad-Peter fight and just sub in Maskaev instead of Wlad

That's what was said before and it didn't happen because Peter doesn't know how to punch

he's all hyped up as this big bomber for KOing Bums and since he started fighting guys that could swing back what has he done???

[paulfv]

I heard Peter's training, too.

5 Ho-Ho's and 6 Twinkies a day.

[Shpion]

did you copy and paste this from the thread before the Wlad-Peter fight and just sub in Maskaev instead of Wlad

That's what was said before and it didn't happen because Peter doesn't know how to punch

he's all hyped up as this big bomber for KOing Bums and since he started fighting guys that could swing back what has he done???

Common, he beat Toney the 2nd time more impressively than Danny Batchelder.

[Sputnik44]

I can see Peter turning into James Toney, I was excited about Peter coming up but his lack of improvement has been shameful and his linkage to DOn King has only hurt him and his career...he should drop king and get a trainer to work on his footwork so he can throw some short hooks into his arsenal rather than these looping power shots...

I wish him luck but I still detest the unwarranted hype and lack of a defining heavyweight win...JT is not impressive

[Jinx]

no way Maskaev will avoid the canvas in this one...Peter KO 5 Maskaev

[Zakman]

Maskaev KO2.

That's about when glass-jawed Oleg will GET KOd. This is going to be a very one-sided, and short fight and there is NO WAY that Maskaev, with his shaky chin, will win. You can count on it.:yep

[BoxingGuru]

It's gonna be Vitali-Maskaev.

Scam Cheater cannot beat Maskaev. He can't knock anyone down with a pulse without cheating. If Scam barely beat a shot James Toney then just beat a more shot James Toney, he cannot beat Maskaev.

[RUSKULL]

but big sam's power punch's are so slow he sends you a note in advance to tell you roughly when it will be arriving.

:rofl Hilarious & true.

Peter is nothing but hype.

[RUSKULL]

What i wanna know is why is holyfield beating all these heavyweights now and it wasn't that long ago james toney gave him a beating.

Holyfield claimed to have shoulder and/or back problems which have since been corrected, and the way he's fighting lately it's hard to doubt him. His handspeed is much better now & he's putting together some decent combos and he still appears to have good power so who knows?

[RUSKULL]

Common, he beat Toney the 2nd time more impressively than Danny Batchelder.

:rofl True, true, true.

[BigReg]

Holyfield claimed to have shoulder and/or back problems which have since been corrected, and the way he's fighting lately it's hard to doubt him. His handspeed is much better now & he's putting together some decent combos and he still appears to have good power so who knows?

I wonder if all the HGH helped heal Holyfield's shoulder and back problems?

[RUSKULL]

I wonder if all the HGH helped heal Holyfield's shoulder and back problems?

What's HGH? Seriously.................

[PolishPummler]

A small Polish village? Where, down the street from you in Liverpool?:good

AHAHAHAHA:lol: :lol: :yep :yep :hey :rofl :rofl

The SHOW STOPPA.

Maxxy you better come harder son.

JETSKI just backhanded you.

[BigReg]

What's HGH? Seriously.................

You didn't hear about the Human Growth Hormone scandal surrounding Holyfield? Sports Illustrated did a big story on it

[RUSKULL]

You didn't hear about the Human Growth Hormone scandal surrounding Holyfield? Sports Illustrated did a big story on it

I figured it out second before I read your answer! It probably did help but I don't think it's legal is it? Isn't it kinda like steriods? Really, I don't know shit about drugs unless you can smoke them :rasta

[AJAX]

That's about when glass-jawed Oleg will GET KOd. This is going to be a very one-sided, and short fight and there is NO WAY that Maskaev, with his shaky chin, will win. You can count on it.:yep

There's more to boxing than chins, or Peter would have KO's Wlad. Oleg is not as good as Wlad but it's possible he beats Peter by UD. I'm just glad the fight's finally on

[Daruf]

My brain tells me that Peter will win even if he is grossly overrated.

On the other hand i really hope Oleg pulls off the upset... he seems like a decent bloke and he fought so hard ... i want to see him go on and make some more good money before he stops.

[thesandman]

but big sam's power punch's are so slow he sends you a note in advance to tell you roughly when it will be arriving.

Well, Oleg is no speed merchant either.

I recently rewatched the 12th round with him and Rahman, and even though a lot of fatigue was involved - it still looked like Oleg was punching in treacle his punches were that slow. Obviously hard, but not real quick.

Still, great KO though. Rahman sure likes to go out in style doesn't he????? :lol::lol:

[JETSKI]

That's about when glass-jawed Oleg will GET KOd. This is going to be a very one-sided, and short fight and there is NO WAY that Maskaev, with his shaky chin, will win. You can count on it.:yep

I think you know by now I'm for Maskaev.:D And you've liked Sam Peter when he first burst onto the scene, even though he was raw & hard to watch, with those horrid haymakers, many landing rabbit punch style.

Why didn't Rahman KO Oleg if he has a shakey chin? You talk about the old Maskaev. He has a whole new team thats made the proper adjustments to his game to make him a craftier fighter. Talk about some of his strong points, like how he's 10x the skilled fighter Peter is, and don't forget to elaborate on Oleg's terrific power he gets out of that technically beautiful thrown right hand. With good handspeed for a big man. 6'-3", 230 lbs. That not chopped liver & Sam can be found pretty easliy.

So all I'm saying is stop making it sound like such a mis-match, cause its not. Each fighter has pro's & con's, & if your boy doesn't manage to land the big bomb, Oleg wins on points, cause NO WAY does Sam outbox Oleg.

Tell me I'm wrong.:tong

[Ambition_Def]

Well finally they stop running! Hopefully there isn't some pullout clause in that contract.

He was gonna have to fight Sam anyways no matter what he liked. Even if they setup an interim match he'd have to. No avoiding it.

Glad he manned up like Margarito did recently and took the fight. I wish Maskaev the best but I like Sam to win big here.

[Ambition_Def]

So all I'm saying is stop making it sound like such a mis-match, cause its not. Each fighter has pro's & con's, & if your biy doesn't manage to land the big bomb, Oleg wins on points, cause NO WAY does Sam outbox Oleg.

Tell me I'm wrong.:tong

I've seen Sam win boxing matches, and pretty easily too. He just doesn't have an inbetween gear. Either he boxes the whole way or he tries to take their heads off.

And Maskaev is dreadfully slow. He was slow when he was in his prime but now it is much worse. I'm not talking about compareable footspeed here, but handspeed. Sam's handspeed will be a decisive factor imo.

[JETSKI]

I've seen Sam win boxing matches, and pretty easily too. He just doesn't have an inbetween gear. Either he boxes the whole way or he tries to take their heads off.

And Maskaev is dreadfully slow. He was slow when he was in his prime but now it is much worse. I'm not talking about compareable footspeed here, but handspeed. Sam's handspeed will be a decisive factor imo.

Yeah, Oleg has slowed down a bit. But I was thinking about his 2nd fight with Rahman, were after exhaustion set in on both fighters, Hasim's slowness actually made Oleg look fast!:yep

[Heavyrighthand]

He just doesn't have an inbetween gear. Either he boxes the whole way or he tries to take their heads off.
.

That's cause the ones whom he boxes the whole way are better than the tomato cans whom he takes the head off of, and he can't pull his quick KO thing on a top ten fighter who knows how to box.



But I like Peter. He seems like a great guy, regardless of the weenies he has promoting him. I hope Peter does well and gives a good showing of himself, but this fight is all about the O..........the BIG O! :good

Maskaev by decision.

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[Ambition_Def]

Yeah, Oleg has slowed down a bit. But I was thinking about his 2nd fight with Rahman, were after exhaustion set in on both fighters, Hasim's slowness actually made Oleg look fast!:yep

:lol: Rahman is a mummy. No question about it. He makes Valuev look agile.

[Ambition_Def]

That's cause the ones whom he boxes the whole way are better than the tomato cans whom he takes the head off of, and he can't pull his quick KO thing on a top ten fighter who knows how to box.

Misconception.

He knows how to let off the gas and box his way to a decision. Robert Hawkins is no better than Jeremy Williams or Taurus Sykes. The difference is Hawkins went into survival mode from the outset. Sam got wise and just switched back to boxing. And he won easily.

Also I don't get where this conception comes from that Maskaev is a boxer. He has been outboxed many a time in his career and always seemed to rely on one or two well placed punches to turn a fight around. Just because he soundly outboxed Sinan Sam doesn't mean he is a good boxer. It just means Sinan Sam can't box as well.

[JETSKI]

That's cause the ones whom he boxes the whole way are better than the tomato cans whom he takes the head off of, and he can't pull his quick KO thing on a top ten fighter who knows how to box.



But I like Peter. He seems like a great guy, regardless of the weenies he has promoting him. I hope Peter does well and gives a good showing of himself, but this fight is all about the O..........the BIG O! :good

Maskaev by decision.

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Wow! Nice shot!!! Don't ever remember seeing that one before. Where did you find it?

[Suge Green]

I cannot understand why so many consider Sam Peter such a big puncher? All of his big fights ended in decisions. I am sure he can hit and he is obviously very strong physically, but I have not been impressed to the level of some of you! Maskaev has been KOed, but he has also faced good competition since early in his career and has only been KOed a few times. This includes a young David Tua who Oleg was having a close fight with until he got caught with a big punch late in the fight! Sam Peter has not shown me he is in the same company as a young David Tua (not yet!). This could be an interesting fight. Oleg is the better boxer with more experience and he can bang pretty good too! Sam Peter showed improvement when he fought Toney the 2nd time, but he lacks hand speed which will make it hard for him to land at will on Oleg. Peter is also easy to hit and Oleg can hit just as hard as Peter can in my opinion....

After Oleg "I'm Russian Now" Maskaev, gets KO'd by Peter, will you place Sam on the level of a young Tua...???

[Suge Green]

Misconception.

He knows how to let off the gas and box his way to a decision. Robert Hawkins is no better than Jeremy Williams or Taurus Sykes. The difference is Hawkins went into survival mode from the outset. Sam got wise and just switched back to boxing. And he won easily.

Also I don't get where this conception comes from that Maskaev is a boxer. He has been outboxed many a time in his career and always seemed to rely on one or two well placed punches to turn a fight around. Just because he soundly outboxed Sinan Sam doesn't mean he is a good boxer. It just means Sinan Sam can't box as well.

Oleg fights like the Easties did when they were still losing all the time...that said, I look forward to watching Peter punish him.

[Zakman]

IWhy didn't Rahman KO Oleg if he has a shakey chin? You talk about the old Maskaev. He has a whole new team thats made the proper adjustments to his game to make him a craftier fighter. Talk about some of his strong points, like how he's 10x the skilled fighter Peter is, and don't forget to elaborate on Oleg's terrific power he gets out of that technically beautiful thrown right hand. With good handspeed for a big man. 6'-3", 230 lbs. That not chopped liver & Sam can be found pretty easliy.

So all I'm saying is stop making it sound like such a mis-match, cause its not. Each fighter has pro's & con's, & if your boy doesn't manage to land the big bomb, Oleg wins on points, cause NO WAY does Sam outbox Oleg.

Tell me I'm wrong.:tong

Ok - you're wrong! :D Rahman is one of the few rated fighters I would pick Oleg to beat - because his chin makes Oleg look like George Chuvalo!!!:lol:

But Oleg has few, if any, advantages against Peter. His chin isn't close. Speed??? Neither guy is particularly fast. And I'm not sold on Oleg being all that more skilled, particularly since Peter seems to have made adjustments somewhat. Neither guy is gonna remind anybody of Ali any time soon, but since Peter has at acquired at least a passible jab - which was the main thing lacking in the Wlad fight - there really isn't much advantage for Oleg here. I'm also not that sold on Oleg as a heavy puncher. Knocking out Rahman isn't anything to crow about, considering how many times he's been starched.

When you boil this fight down, all things being equal, Peter has two key advantages - youth, which most likely means greater stamina, and a MUCH better chin. That will make the difference in this fight, and I expect Peter to blow Oleg away early, making it seem very much like the mismatch you protest it isn't. Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings. Believe me, I was rooting hard for Oleg to take Rahman out, and was quite pleased he did. But his time has passed. It's Peter Time now!:yep

[Goose]

Go Maskaev!!!

Its highly unlikely that he wins, but Oleg has a puncher's chance against anybody.

Peter could also come in overweight and that could also lead to Maskaev winning a decision, so lets wait and see what happens.

[Suge Green]

Neither guy is gonna remind anybody of Ali any time soon...

You can speak for Maskaev alone there...remember the end of the 2nd Toney fight...Sam payed tribute, haven't seen that out of any of the other fighters that the KLIT-ite fans have mentioned as "Ali like." Not that Peter is Ali like, he just reminded us of Ali on that occasion.

[JETSKI]

Ok - you're wrong! :D Rahman is one of the few rated fighters I would pick Oleg to beat - because his chin makes Oleg look like George Chuvalo!!!:lol:

But Oleg has few, if any, advantages against Peter. His chin isn't close. Speed??? Neither guy is particularly fast. And I'm not sold on Oleg being all that more skilled, particularly since Peter seems to have made adjustments somewhat. Neither guy is gonna remind anybody of Ali any time soon, but since Peter has at acquired at least a passible jab - which was the main thing lacking in the Wlad fight - there really isn't much advantage for Oleg here. I'm also not that sold on Oleg as a heavy puncher. Knocking out Rahman isn't anything to crow about, considering how many times he's been starched.

When you boil this fight down, all things being equal, Peter has two key advantages - youth, which most likely means greater stamina, and a MUCH better chin. That will make the difference in this fight, and I expect Peter to blow Oleg away early, making it seem very much like the mismatch you protest it isn't. Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings. Believe me, I was rooting hard for Oleg to take Rahman out, and was quite pleased he did. But his time has passed. It's Peter Time now!:yep

Good one. I like the part about Rahman being STARCHED.:lol:

[anut]

sam peter is overrated........masquev might beat him...

[Dostoevsky]

You can speak for Maskaev alone there...remember the end of the 2nd Toney fight...Sam payed tribute, haven't seen that out of any of the other fighters that the KLIT-ite fans have mentioned as "Ali like." Not that Peter is Ali like, he just reminded us of Ali on that occasion.

:lol: :lol: :nut :nut

The only possible similiarity between Ali and Peter is that they are both black and heavyweights.
Apart from that they share nothing similiar.

[Sweet Scientist]

some people seem to forget just how much Sam Peter sucks.

This is a 50-50 fight the way I see it, and I'll be rooting for Maskaev all the way.

:good Agree 100%.

[Suge Green]

:lol: :lol: :nut :nut

The only possible similiarity between Ali and Peter is that they are both black and heavyweights.
Apart from that they share nothing similiar.

:verysad
I, in fact stated that Peter is not "Ali like." If you saw the fight you would have an idea of what was being discussed. If you did see the fight, and are still making this comment...you should seek the attention you desire in the lounge.

[dmille]

Sam Peter has the better chin? When has he ever really been tagged by a heavyweight power puncher? By a gun-shy Wlad? Anyone else?

Oleg will be the first fighter to really test his jaw.

[psychopath]

Just read an article on Russian news that Maskaev has already started his training for his title defense against Sam Peter. While the negotiations about the purse split with don king are still in progress, according to Maskaev it looks like both camps will come to a concensus. don king's office confirmed it.

Good! :yep :good

Finally.

[paulfv]

sam peter is overrated........masquev might beat him...

Agreed

[Ambition_Def]

Oleg will be the first fighter to really test his jaw.

:lol:

Sam has been hit flush by every heavyweight who has stepped in the ring with him. I'm not kidding. I love watching the guy fight and think he is the future but he eats punches all the time. To say his chin hasn't been tested is ridiculous.

[Ambition_Def]

sam peter is overrated........masquev might beat him...

It's Maskaev, not Masquev.

And where'd you get that picture of Manny?

[dmille]

When has he ever really been tagged by a heavyweight power puncher?

I notice you left this part out of your quote...

[Shpion]

Sam Peter has the better chin? When has he ever really been tagged by a heavyweight power puncher? By a gun-shy Wlad? Anyone else?

Oleg will be the first fighter to really test his jaw.

Didn't he get wobbled by Toney in their 1st fight, I forgot which rd?

[Ambition_Def]

I notice you left this part out of your quote...

Because it was addressed.

Samuel Peter has been hit flush by every fighter I've seen him in the ring with. Every one of those fights I have on .avi format.

Those being (off the top of my head)

Waldo Klitschko
James Toney
Giles Knox
Jeremy Williams
Yanqui Diaz


And others which I don't have access to at the moment.

Waldo is easily one of the sharpest punchers in the division. If you by some chance mean to say that Maskaev is in Waldo's league in terms of power or technique then I cannot discuss this with you further.

[tays001]

i hope peter get hit with a low blow and can't continue after 5 minutes . that would be funny

[aliwasthegreatest]

Because it was addressed.

Samuel Peter has been hit flush by every fighter I've seen him in the ring with. Every one of those fights I have on .avi format.

Those being (off the top of my head)

Waldo Klitschko
James Toney
Giles Knox
Jeremy Williams
Yanqui Diaz


And others which I don't have access to at the moment.

Waldo is easily one of the sharpest punchers in the division. If you by some chance mean to say that Maskaev is in Waldo's league in terms of power or technique then I cannot discuss this with you further.

i'll put him in that league as far as raw power goes. however not speed an accuracy which give wlad his real punch

[DamonD]

There's certainly a lot of faith in Maskaev in this thread.
Good, it'll make for a more entertaining fight night here, whoever wins.

[Sister Sledge]

Sam Peter has the better chin? When has he ever really been tagged by a heavyweight power puncher? By a gun-shy Wlad? Anyone else?

Oleg will be the first fighter to really test his jaw.

I seriously doubt Oleg could survive 12 rounds against a gun-shy Vlad.

Oleg is gonna be destroyed.

[Odo]

Because it was addressed.

Samuel Peter has been hit flush by every fighter I've seen him in the ring with. Every one of those fights I have on .avi format.

Those being (off the top of my head)

Waldo Klitschko
James Toney
Giles Knox
Jeremy Williams
Yanqui Diaz


And others which I don't have access to at the moment.

Waldo is easily one of the sharpest punchers in the division. If you by some chance mean to say that Maskaev is in Waldo's league in terms of power or technique then I cannot discuss this with you further.

I surely dont intend to say that Maskaev is in Wlad's league,but I would like to point out that Maskaev beat Wlad at the amateurs.

[Bigcat]

Samuel is a lot better fighter than many are giving credit for, I don't know why everyone keep knocking Peter , he completely shut out Toney in thier last fight and outboxed him handily throughout, Toney is a very capable boxer. Maskaev really isn't an extra special fighter, I see Samuel winning a reletively easy bout.. Oleg boxes at his best when he feels like it.. Too inconsistant.. I hope it turns out to be an exciting affair, boxing needs a defining fight, especially at heavyweight..

[Shpion]

Samuel is a lot better fighter than many are giving credit for, I don't know why everyone keep knocking Peter , he completely shut out Toney in thier last fight and outboxed him handily throughout, Toney is a very capable boxer. Maskaev really isn't an extra special fighter, I see Samuel winning a reletively easy bout.. Oleg boxes at his best when he feels like it.. Too inconsistant.. I hope it turns out to be an exciting affair, boxing needs a defining fight, especially at heavyweight..

I do not want to take any credit from Peter for him beating Toney, as I do not want to take credit from Danny Batchelder either for outboxing even a more fit Toney. However, what I find the most laughable is that some posters present the "new" Peter as a master boxer here. He is an entertaining fighter but his skills desire to wish for much more. I really hope he is training as well and coming into thi fight in good shape. Because if he comes obese, I will give Maskaev a good chance to beat him.

[sst]

Peter is clearly the favorite in this match up. The durability of Oleg is questionable but his confidence is not. He can hurt Peter. The way the challenger walks straight in can be dangerous against a good puncher like Oleg. IMO there is a small chance Peter will come in over confident and fail to blow Oleg out of there in the first 4 rds. He may start getting hit and not throwing a lot back. This guy is tough and strong but very limited in his boxing skills. But the most likely scenario is a early ko and a new champ.

Lets hope for Peter's sake he can finally get a ko against a top 20 fighter. A loss in this one is a one way train ride to Palookaville. Oleg has done well in koing Rahman he looked strong and pretty well schooled in that fight but he did loose 4 or 5 rds and got hit in the process. The early rds were all Rahman. Sam Peter will not let him off the hook if he gets him on his heels.

I hope Maskaev comes in with a game plan that includes loading up in the first few rds. Might as well go down swinging. That is not to say I would not recommend some holding on Oleg's part. He should look to get off first with power and shut things down. Get separation and do it again. Mix it up to the body and the head. Peter may become frustrated and start walking into big shots. Team Maskaev needs to need to come up with something Peter will not expect or their fighter will get koed early. If Maskaev is still there after 4 Peter will be fighting Olegs fight and will be in danger of loosing. You would almost thing it is foolish to even give Maskaev a slight chance in this one but Peter is younger stronger and tougher. But he fights like a punching bag with his chin out. He better have a good chin because his style is a ko waiting to happen. That is the only reason this fight is worth watching.

[Odo]

I do not want to take any credit from Peter for him beating Toney, as I do not want to take credit from Danny Batchelder either for outboxing even a more fit Toney. However, what I find the most laughable is that some posters present the "new" Peter as a master boxer here. He is an entertaining fighter but his skills desire to wish for much more. I really hope he is training as well and coming into thi fight in good shape. Because if he comes obese, I will give Maskaev a good chance to beat him.

Peter the masterboxer! You are right,shpion! A lot of posters here sounds as if Peter has turned into a second Chris Byrd with the firepower of Vitaly Klitschko.
Peter for sure isnt the underdog against Maskaev.No doubt about that.However,Peter had two lame fights against Toney who luckily beat the great Danny Batchelder in his last fight(Dimitrenko stopped him in 7 rounds).
Peter also had to go the full route with Jovo Pudar-an average Croation heavy weight with no punch at all.
I wouldnt bet much money on Maskaev,but I ,too,give a good chance to beat Peter.

[RUSKULL]

You can speak for Maskaev alone there...remember the end of the 2nd Toney fight...Sam payed tribute, haven't seen that out of any of the other fighters that the KLIT-ite fans have mentioned as "Ali like." Not that Peter is Ali like, he just reminded us of Ali on that occasion.

Get the fuck outte here, Peter reminded us of Ali?!! :lol: :rofl

Peter sucks but if he's your only hope, good luck with that, you'll need it!

Even if Peter does beat Oleg he has Vitali up next & the older Klitschko will punish Peter & KO him within 8 rounds. :tong

[A-50]

Peter has not KOed a top 25 Heavyweight.

[El Bombasto]

Didn't he get wobbled by Toney in their 1st fight, I forgot which rd?

i don't know about being wobbled, but there were several occasions where tony backed him up with overhand rights

[El Bombasto]

I surely dont intend to say that Maskaev is in Wlad's league,but I would like to point out that Maskaev beat Wlad at the amateurs.

i thought oleg beat vit. and that was because vit. had a kick boxing tournament the next day

[madpup]

I think if Maskaev come in with a smart gameplan and withstands the barrage in the first 3-4 rounds, he will win on UD something like 116-112.

I think it is a 50/50 fight

[RUSKULL]

all of you guys need to rewatch the second peter/toney fight. Sams punches were not slow at all, he mixed in some quick short uppercuts and outboxed what many had said was the best pure boxer in heavy weight division, and peter outboxed him easily. To say peter is a clubbing fighter only is fucking stupid.

Samuel Peter is a clubbing puncher. :tong

....soon to be known as a club fighter. :lol:

[AJAX]

I actually thought Peter did throw some fast straight punches in the second fight, he's not as bad as some people think and sometimes those awkward clubbing punches can be effective.

[brooklyn1550]

Peter has not KOed a top 25 Heavyweight.

:good He will start with Maskaev

[Suge Green]

Get the fuck outte here, Peter reminded us of Ali?!! :lol: :rofl

Peter sucks but if he's your only hope, good luck with that, you'll need it!

Even if Peter does beat Oleg he has Vitali up next & the older Klitschko will punish Peter & KO him within 8 rounds. :tong

So, I see you've returned to your emotional style of posting...:oops:

Yes, Peter payed tribute to Ali at the end of the 12th...everybody clearly saw it, the fans cheered, the commentators remarked...wtf, is the problem...???...he clearly imitated ALI in a recognizable and playful manner. I'll state again for the over emotional...Peter is nothing like ALI.

Peter is not my only hope...if he loses he loses. I'm not in love with my favorite fighters, and will not be overly distraught if they lose...unlike some foolish KLIT-ites. That said Peter will hurt OLEG, who will show up with a "defeated before the bell even rings" aura about him. Like when the shell of Brewster climbed into a German ring recently.

Just be happy Maskaev is training. There is a chance he can be practicing the International Bum Fed's champion's strategy on defeating Peter...if so, we can look forward to OLEG holding and running all night...Trying not to get KO'd (not that it'll help).

[PolishPummler]

So, I see you've returned to your emotional style of posting...:oops:

Yes, Peter payed tribute to Ali at the end of the 12th...everybody clearly saw it, the fans cheered, the commentators remarked...wtf, is the problem...???...he clearly imitated ALI in a recognizable and playful manner. I'll state again for the over emotional...Peter is nothing like ALI.

Peter is not my only hope...if he loses he loses. I'm not in love with my favorite fighters, and will not be overly distraught if they lose...unlike some foolish KLIT-ites. That said Peter will hurt OLEG, who will show up with a "defeated before the bell even rings" aura about him. Like when the shell of Brewster climbed into a German ring recently.

Just be happy Maskaev is training. There is a chance he can be practicing the International Bum Fed's champion's strategy on defeating Peter...if so, we can look forward to OLEG holding and running all night...Trying not to get KO'd (not that it'll help).

:lol:

I see you have directed your hate towards Oleg now.

I guess Wlad dissapoints you to often(by winning).

[madpup]

all of you guys need to rewatch the second peter/toney fight. Sams punches were not slow at all, he mixed in some quick short uppercuts and outboxed what many had said was the best pure boxer in heavy weight division, and peter outboxed him easily. To say peter is a clubbing fighter only is fucking stupid.

How can you call Toney the best pure boxer in the heavyweight division when he absolutely hasn't done shit in that very division? Best pure boxers dont consistently produce mediocre performances.

[Sister Sledge]

It's funny how a limited fighter like Maskaev is expected to beat a fighter who Wlad barely beat. Peter is a better fighter that the one that fought Wlad. I think that is why Oleg is already training. He knows his ass is grass and Peter is the lawnmower.

[1-Ton]

all of you guys need to rewatch the second peter/toney fight. Sams punches were not slow at all, he mixed in some quick short uppercuts and outboxed what many had said was the best pure boxer in heavy weight division, and peter outboxed him easily. To say peter is a clubbing fighter only is fucking stupid.

The only thing Peter did right in this fight was figure out that to beat James Toney (at least the fat HW version) is to keep him in the middle of the ring. If he had done that more in the first fight, he would have won a wide UD as well. The only thing Toney does well anymore is sit his fat butt on the ropes and counter. If you keep him off the ropes, he can be easily outboxed b/c he is too fat and lazy these days. So, not to discredit him, but I really don't take too much from that fight regarding Peter's boxing ability.

[sst]

So, I see you've returned to your emotional style of posting...:oops:

Yes, Peter payed tribute to Ali at the end of the 12th...everybody clearly saw it, the fans cheered, the commentators remarked...wtf, is the problem...???...he clearly imitated ALI in a recognizable and playful manner. I'll state again for the over emotional...Peter is nothing like ALI.

Peter is not my only hope...if he loses he loses. I'm not in love with my favorite fighters, and will not be overly distraught if they lose...unlike some foolish KLIT-ites. That said Peter will hurt OLEG, who will show up with a "defeated before the bell even rings" aura about him. Like when the shell of Brewster climbed into a German ring recently.

Just be happy Maskaev is training. There is a chance he can be practicing the International Bum Fed's champion's strategy on defeating Peter...if so, we can look forward to OLEG holding and running all night...Trying not to get KO'd (not that it'll help).

Well you can't be wrong all the time. Rahman was going to knock him out. Now Peter. Sonner or later you will get it right. For Peter's sake lets hope you got it right this time. If he looses he will be lucky to be on the undercard of friday night fights.