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huricn
07-26-2008, 04:17 AM
apparently sonny left aus early today to play union in france. and did not tell the bulldogs anything.
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T.C.W
07-26-2008, 04:31 AM
who cares he is just a silly kiwi, He will fuck up for sure with Nassar behind him, The way nassar carries on he thinks he is Don KIng with all the shit that comes out of this mouth and the horse shit that he has filled Williams head with he will have huge problems inside team sports. Williams Fuck OFF to WOG land and take Nassar the wog with you.
pecks
07-26-2008, 05:23 AM
who cares he is just a silly kiwi, He will fuck up for sure with Nassar behind him, The way nassar carries on he thinks he is Don KIng with all the shit that comes out of this mouth and the horse shit that he has filled Williams head with he will have huge problems inside team sports. Williams Fuck OFF to WOG land and take Nassar the wog with you.:lol::lol:
sallywinder
07-26-2008, 06:05 AM
he was an injury prone coconut anyway...no big loss.
this bloke
07-26-2008, 07:05 AM
fuck him off
all these players who think they are bigger than the game are ruining the game
ajay11
07-26-2008, 07:39 AM
fuck him off
all these players who think they are bigger than the game are ruining the game
That's harsh.
The club has been a mess since the salary cap debacle and it's not the type of enviroment any professional sportsman should have to deal with.
Sonny has had to deal with plenty including taking a paycut even though it was the club that stuffed up. After the majority of their elite players left the club he was left to carry the extra load. Opposition teams double up on him knowing that if you shut down Sonny Bill you stop their go forward. The coach has got the arse and the board are still fighting amongst themselves.
I'm surprised he didn't go postal and crack their heads in with a barbell.
Francis75
07-26-2008, 08:07 AM
I wonder if Phil Gould will do an "exclusive" interview with the poor naive kid on this thursdays footy show.
Sonny Bill will be an awesome addition to the All Blacks in 09 :deal
The man is far and away the best forward in NRL even if he only plays 2.5 games a year :yep
WhataRock
07-26-2008, 09:05 AM
I love to see what happens to him legally. He has an airtight contract by the sounds of it.
Dantes
07-26-2008, 11:36 AM
As good as he is, there's no accounting for cohesion. Guys like Sonny need to fuck off because teams grow and prosper without their antics and drama.
ajay11
07-26-2008, 11:46 AM
I wonder if Phil Gould will do an "exclusive" interview with the poor naive kid on this thursdays footy show.
Phil Gould can be a little to much when he calls the footy but it's guys like him that saved our game (to an extent) from being arse raped by News Ltd and other self serving, greedy fucks.
Like Gould, I (and many others within the game) have become disillusioned with the direction in which the game has gone. If you can recall during super league, guys like John Ribot suggesting we kill off half the Sydney based teams so that they can be replaced by teams in Adelaide, Perth, and JAPAN !!!
It was in super league that players started diving at the tacklers feet so they could get a quick play the ball and catch the markers and other defenders offside. This was encouraged because they wanted the game more marketable for television. Now we spend our time teaching junior rep players how to tackle chest high and flip before wrestling them to the ground in a dominant tackle. Gone are the days of "tackle around the legs...they can't run without legs"
Tackle around the legs and the opposition gets a quick play the ball.
Gone is the competition in the play the ball (kicking and raking). Gone is the ball security. Gone is the scrum competition. Gone are the footballers and in come the atheletes. Gone are the creative players because now you can make 70 meters in a set of six just by running out of dummy half.
The Phil Blake's, Greg Alexander's, Peter Sterling's and Steve Mortimer's have almost become obsolete. Where would Arthur Beatson or John "Dallas" Donnelly fit in today's game? You don't need to be creative to break the line because a fast play the ball will have them going backwards.
It just don't sit right that a select few could do so much damage in such a short space of time. Guys like Phil Gould keep the pilliages at bay.
ajay11
07-26-2008, 11:49 AM
As good as he is, there's no accounting for cohesion. Guys like Sonny need to fuck off because teams grow and prosper without their antics and drama.
:huh DRAMA ? What drama?
The only drama you know of is that which is created by the self serving press.
Sonny Bill wants out, has for a long time. Was happy to go quitely but that don't sell papers.
As for Canterbury prospering....not for a very long time.
Phil Gould can be a little to much when he calls the footy but it's guys like him that saved our game (to an extent) from being arse raped by News Ltd and other self serving, greedy fucks.
Like Gould, I (and many others within the game) have become disillusioned with the direction in which the game has gone. If you can recall during super league, guys like John Ribot suggesting we kill off half the Sydney based teams so that they can be replaced by teams in Adelaide, Perth, and JAPAN !!!
It was in super league that players started diving at the tacklers feet so they could get a quick play the ball and catch the markers and other defenders offside. This was encouraged because they wanted the game more marketable for television. Now we spend our time teaching junior rep players how to tackle chest high and flip before wrestling them to the ground in a dominant tackle. Gone are the days of "tackle around the legs...they can't run without legs"
Tackle around the legs and the opposition gets a quick play the ball.
Gone is the competition in the play the ball (kicking and raking). Gone is the ball security. Gone is the scrum competition. Gone are the footballers and in come the atheletes. Gone are the creative players because now you can make 70 meters in a set of six just by running out of dummy half.
The Phil Blake's, Greg Alexander's, Peter Sterling's and Steve Mortimer's have almost become obsolete. Where would Arthur Beatson or John "Dallas" Donnelly fit in today's game? You don't need to be creative to break the line because a fast play the ball will have them going backwards.
It just don't sit right that a select few could do so much damage in such a short space of time. Guys like Phil Gould keep the pilliages at bay.Good post mate
Rise Above
07-26-2008, 08:09 PM
This bloke is the poster boy for overrrated.
perfect jet
07-26-2008, 08:44 PM
Phil Gould can be a little to much when he calls the footy but it's guys like him that saved our game (to an extent) from being arse raped by News Ltd and other self serving, greedy fucks.
Like Gould, I (and many others within the game) have become disillusioned with the direction in which the game has gone. If you can recall during super league, guys like John Ribot suggesting we kill off half the Sydney based teams so that they can be replaced by teams in Adelaide, Perth, and JAPAN !!!
It was in super league that players started diving at the tacklers feet so they could get a quick play the ball and catch the markers and other defenders offside. This was encouraged because they wanted the game more marketable for television. Now we spend our time teaching junior rep players how to tackle chest high and flip before wrestling them to the ground in a dominant tackle. Gone are the days of "tackle around the legs...they can't run without legs"
Tackle around the legs and the opposition gets a quick play the ball.
Gone is the competition in the play the ball (kicking and raking). Gone is the ball security. Gone is the scrum competition. Gone are the footballers and in come the atheletes. Gone are the creative players because now you can make 70 meters in a set of six just by running out of dummy half.
The Phil Blake's, Greg Alexander's, Peter Sterling's and Steve Mortimer's have almost become obsolete. Where would Arthur Beatson or John "Dallas" Donnelly fit in today's game? You don't need to be creative to break the line because a fast play the ball will have them going backwards.
It just don't sit right that a select few could do so much damage in such a short space of time. Guys like Phil Gould keep the pilliages at bay.
Spoken for truth.
I find it hard to watch 80 minutes of football these days. The game is so sterile and sanitised. Watch two games back to back and you hardly see any difference. A game that ends up 20-18 might have me excited for ten seconds during the match.
Two things to ponder...Israel Folau is a star in todays game. ok. But here's the thing, if the trend continues I'l remember Folau as that tall athletic guy who jumped higher than anyone else and scored tries in the corner. He probably has a whole lot more to offer, but the game today doesn't call upon him to do much else. Where's the "footballer" in Folau, will we get to see it?
Secondly, when was the last game you watched that stayed on your mind and was a talking point for more than a day after the game?...for the game itself and not a controversy?
89 gf was a ripper, 95 was great...hmm, the brand they thought was an easy sell and would take us in to the future doesn't seem to be working. No GREAT games and crowds are down.
Needs more than tweaking imo.
sallywinder
07-26-2008, 09:01 PM
Phil Gould can be a little to much when he calls the footy but it's guys like him that saved our game (to an extent) from being arse raped by News Ltd and other self serving, greedy fucks.
Like Gould, I (and many others within the game) have become disillusioned with the direction in which the game has gone. If you can recall during super league, guys like John Ribot suggesting we kill off half the Sydney based teams so that they can be replaced by teams in Adelaide, Perth, and JAPAN !!!
It was in super league that players started diving at the tacklers feet so they could get a quick play the ball and catch the markers and other defenders offside. This was encouraged because they wanted the game more marketable for television. Now we spend our time teaching junior rep players how to tackle chest high and flip before wrestling them to the ground in a dominant tackle. Gone are the days of "tackle around the legs...they can't run without legs"
Tackle around the legs and the opposition gets a quick play the ball.
Gone is the competition in the play the ball (kicking and raking). Gone is the ball security. Gone is the scrum competition. Gone are the footballers and in come the atheletes. Gone are the creative players because now you can make 70 meters in a set of six just by running out of dummy half.
The Phil Blake's, Greg Alexander's, Peter Sterling's and Steve Mortimer's have almost become obsolete. Where would Arthur Beatson or John "Dallas" Donnelly fit in today's game? You don't need to be creative to break the line because a fast play the ball will have them going backwards.
It just don't sit right that a select few could do so much damage in such a short space of time. Guys like Phil Gould keep the pilliages at bay.
good post. why is it they tell us the game is better when scrums are no longer a contest, ball security is thrown out the window, and striking for the ball in the play the ball is gone? i dont know anyone that agrees with these rule changes....
who wants interchange???? only musclebound coconuts that cant run for 80 mins...!!! it should be like the days of old. 2 reserves...thats it. if you have to play with 12 men...bad luck.
Francis75
07-26-2008, 09:14 PM
good post. why is it they tell us the game is better when scrums are no longer a contest, ball security is thrown out the window, and striking for the ball in the play the ball is gone? i dont know anyone that agrees with these rule changes....
who wants interchange???? only musclebound coconuts that cant run for 80 mins...!!! it should be like the days of old. 2 reserves...thats it. if you have to play with 12 men...bad luck.
Great posts AJAY and SALLYWINDER. I personally much preferred watching league in the 80's compared to today's game. I totally agree with the NO INTERCHANGE rule. They should have 4 replacements only. Fitness and stamina should be apart of the game just like any other sport.
It will be interesting to see how the bulldogs will enforce the contact seeing he is leaving for another sport.
Khoder Nasser is certainly behind this imo, both choc and solo broke rugby league contracts in league for boxing and no legal actions was taken so i don't see how this is any different to the SBW fiasco.
BTW my interest in league has waivered after Super League debacle and then interchange where the sport just another form of touch footy on a larger scale.
ashley
07-27-2008, 01:04 AM
No point in trying to get him back......if he dont want to play then let him go.
Exaclty right Ashley, he doesnt want to play for Dogs so let him go.
Who is with me that NRL refs should let quick taps on penalties allow to go on. Man one should only look at the Bledisloe match last night to see the flow it produces.
zerasoth
07-27-2008, 03:33 AM
Oh no what a pity no Sonny Bill
Who gives a shit Sonny we wont miss you with the names of Inglis,Thurston,Folao,Marshall,Pearce and all these young guns coming through.
All i feel sorry for is Cantebury fans who put there soul into a club go week in week out to watch there club and selfish players that think the shit dont stink ruin this game.
You know what i hope comes out of this that because of his contract he cant play for any club for two years. Only seems fair. Shit Wendell got two years for sniffin a a bit coke i think Sonny should get the same.
BoppaZoo
07-27-2008, 03:45 AM
Oh no what a pity no Sonny Bill
Who gives a shit Sonny we wont miss you with the names of Inglis,Thurston,Folao,Marshall,Pearce and all these young guns coming through.
All i feel sorry for is Cantebury fans who put there soul into a club go week in week out to watch there club and selfish players that think the shit dont stink ruin this game.
You know what i hope comes out of this that because of his contract he cant play for any club for two years. Only seems fair. Shit Wendell got two years for sniffin a a bit coke i think Sonny should get the same.This writing message was from Boppazoo.
Oh no what a pity no Sonny Bill
Who gives a shit Sonny we wont miss you with the names of Inglis,Thurston,Folao,Marshall,Pearce and all these young guns coming through.
All i feel sorry for is Cantebury fans who put there soul into a club go week in week out to watch there club and selfish players that think the shit dont stink ruin this game.
You know what i hope comes out of this that because of his contract he cant play for any club for two years. Only seems fair. Shit Wendell got two years for sniffin a a bit coke i think Sonny should get the same.He is the next player to walk to Union, it's only a matter of time
BoppaZoo
07-27-2008, 04:06 AM
He is the next player to walk to Union, it's only a matter of timeStuff him Teke Union can have the Money hungry Whore.
Yeah i said it.
Its guys like Sonny Bill and Mason that ruin the Game.
Oh Oh $450,000 a yearisnt enough. We want more or we go.
GO i dont give to shits. Wont see me or any of New Zealand Rugby fans seeing any footage of a division 2 French Union team were Williams is heading.
Shit know one will even know his name in 2 years.
Stuff him Teke Union can have the Money hungry Whore.
Yeah i said it.
Its guys like Sonny Bill and Mason that ruin the Game.
Oh Oh $450,000 a yearisnt enough. We want more or we go.
GO i dont give to shits. Wont see me or any of New Zealand Rugby fans seeing any footage of a division 2 French Union team were Williams is heading.
Shit know one will even know his name in 2 years.Shit :lol:
If you dont care then you dont care.
Sonny and whoever can do whatever they want with their career.
this bloke
07-27-2008, 04:11 AM
Stuff him Teke Union can have the Money hungry Whore.
Yeah i said it.
Its guys like Sonny Bill and Mason that ruin the Game.
Oh Oh $450,000 a yearisnt enough. We want more or we go.
GO i dont give to shits. Wont see me or any of New Zealand Rugby fans seeing any footage of a division 2 French Union team were Williams is heading.
Shit know one will even know his name in 2 years.
i like this post:thumbsup
BoppaZoo
07-27-2008, 04:31 AM
Shit :lol:
If you dont care then you dont care.
Sonny and whoever can do whatever they want with their career.Yep See ya Sonny all that exposure you just got for the last 3 years in League just went out the door for chanel 782 on French Cable.:lol:
Yep See ya Sonny all that exposure you just got for the last 3 years in League just went out the door for chanel 782 on French Cable.:lol:Fingers crossed he becomes a All BLack soon :yep
BoppaZoo
07-27-2008, 04:49 AM
Fingers crossed he becomes a All BLack soon :yepYeah that of course but i dont think Sonny will be as good at Union as League.
He gets free range in League to run at defenders but Union can take that game out of Sonny. How many players actually make a easy transition and then look great.
Not Many and with Sonny being so big were will he play.
Yeah that of course but i dont think Sonny will be as good at Union as League.
He gets free range in League to run at defenders but Union can take that game out of Sonny. How many players actually make a easy transition and then look great.
Not Many and with Sonny being so big were will he play.Strong talks from experts which i back up reckon he'd be an awesome inside centre, he'd be a little small in the forwards but man he'd be a weapon at number 12.
Fuck my mouth is druelling at the thought of him lining up as an AB.
You wanna help me get the petition going for him to be an AB :hey
wangman
07-27-2008, 05:02 AM
I wonder how sonny will go in Rugby with the shoulder charge. Khoder is a knob, was just on channel 9 news attacked Mark Geyer, i hope Geyer sues him. Khoder cant even take responibility as sonny's manager because he has no license. Fucken toss
I wonder how sonny will go in Rugby with the shoulder charge. Khoder is a knob, was just on channel 9 news attacked Mark Geyer, i hope Geyer sues him. Khoder cant even take responibility as sonny's manager because he has no license. Fucken tossYeah Shoulder charge is outlawed in Rugby for god knows what reason :patsch
BoppaZoo
07-27-2008, 05:05 AM
Strong talks from experts which i back up reckon he'd be an awesome inside centre, he'd be a little small in the forwards but man he'd be a weapon at number 12.
Fuck my mouth is druelling at the thought of him lining up as an AB.
You wanna help me get the petition going for him to be an AB :heyBut if the Bulldogs take legal action he might not be able to play any Rugby till it is settled and court could take 2 years.
But if the Bulldogs take legal action he might not be able to play any Rugby till it is settled and court could take 2 years.Sweet we got plenty of time.
Jamie Lyons got off lightly come to think of it
BoppaZoo
07-27-2008, 05:29 AM
Sweet we got plenty of time.
Jamie Lyons got off lightly come to think of it:good
wangman
07-27-2008, 05:45 AM
Yeah Shoulder charge is outlawed in Rugby for god knows what reason :patsch
Im tipping he is going to get sin binned a few tmes in rugby, thats if he is ever allowed to play :rofl
IrnBruMan
07-27-2008, 05:52 AM
I wonder how sonny will go in Rugby with the shoulder charge. Khoder is a knob, was just on channel 9 news attacked Mark Geyer, i hope Geyer sues him. Khoder cant even take responibility as sonny's manager because he has no license. Fucken toss
Good point on the shoulder charge :yep
Khoder is a prick - he's basically ruined SBW from the time he got his hands on him.
Turned a young bloke with heaps of potential into another whining malcontent.
Good riddance to him.
BoppaZoo
07-27-2008, 06:16 AM
Good point on the shoulder charge :yep
Khoder is a prick - he's basically ruined SBW from the time he got his hands on him.
Turned a young bloke with heaps of potential into another whining malcontent.
Good riddance to him.Yep and Sonny Bill was all about the kids and Rugby League and the Poly ways and that now he just looks like a crying bitch that is a Money Whore.
What did you learn Poly kids. Team Mates,friendships ,loyalty, Truth Means SHIT.
Yep and Sonny Bill was all about the kids and Rugby League and the Poly ways and that now he just looks like a crying bitch that is a Money Whore.
What did you learn Poly kids. Team Mates,friendships ,loyalty, Truth Means SHIT.To be fair to him he was all about setting up his family for life after sport like most others, good on him for trying to get more for himself and family. The Laws will decide his limit
BoppaZoo
07-27-2008, 06:46 AM
I was just watching some news and they say if his contract is what it is being out to be Sonny Bill might not play any sport Union or League until his contract runs out with the Dogs.
Which is 4 years left so all those Kiwi's hoping to see SBW in a All Black jersey might have to wait 4 years.
If this is the case surely after sitting 4 years out the game you would be no Good. This is so funny.
I think SBW just ruined his career nice advice Khoddar.LOL
Lead Right
07-27-2008, 06:56 AM
Mundine walked out on his NRL contract because they didnt give him the respect he deserved. So while I am no lawyer, if Mundine can do it then why not SBW?
And all those that bag Khoder, he has got SBW a big pay increase, that is his job.
That Todd Greenberger seems like a wanker. No Mundine-Green fight at his staduim with his deals.
And people carry on about team loyalty, what a joke, this is professional sport FFS.
BoppaZoo
07-27-2008, 07:03 AM
Mundine walked out on his NRL contract because they didnt give him the respect he deserved. So while I am no lawyer, if Mundine can do it then why not SBW?
And all those that bag Khoder, he has got SBW a big pay increase, that is his job.
That Todd Greenberger seems like a wanker. No Mundine-Green fight at his staduim with his deals.
And people carry on about team loyalty, what a joke, this is professional sport FFS.Obviously you have never played team sports.
Mundines case was different he went to boxing and his contract agreement was different.
Sonny has a NO Get Out Clause which if Toulon put SBW in there team and air it on TV it is according to his contract Piracy. And the Dogs will sue the shit out of Toulon or the All Blacks.
Mate Williams might not play for 4 years.
IrnBruMan
07-27-2008, 07:08 AM
I was just watching some news and they say if his contract is what it is being out to be Sonny Bill might not play any sport Union or League until his contract runs out with the Dogs.
Which is 4 years left so all those Kiwi's hoping to see SBW in a All Black jersey might have to wait 4 years.
If this is the case surely after sitting 4 years out the game you would be no Good. This is so funny.
I think SBW just ruined his career nice advice Khoddar.LOL
Maybe Khoder would be happy to buy out the remaining 4 years of his contract with the doggies? :lol:
IrnBruMan
07-27-2008, 07:10 AM
Mundine walked out on his NRL contract because they didnt give him the respect he deserved. So while I am no lawyer, if Mundine can do it then why not SBW?
And all those that bag Khoder, he has got SBW a big pay increase, that is his job.
That Todd Greenberger seems like a wanker. No Mundine-Green fight at his staduim with his deals.
And people carry on about team loyalty, what a joke, this is professional sport FFS.
You're a dumb, nuthugging fuckwit.
Do you think because you only pop in once in a blue moon that your posts are any less ridiculous?
Fuck off Gay Gav :deal
Maybe Khoder would be happy to buy out the remaining 4 years of his contract with the doggies? :lol:that's what Khoder hopes i reckon. Dunny Bill Williams to Money Bill Williams :lol::lol::lol:
He def is high proflie
BoppaZoo
07-27-2008, 07:17 AM
You're a dumb, nuthugging fuckwit.
Do you think because you only pop in once in a blue moon that your posts are any less ridiculous?
Fuck off Gay Gav :deal:lol: :rofl
pecks
07-27-2008, 09:52 AM
Did anyone see the Sunday footy show earlier? They were talking to Andrew Ryan, and you could tell he was absolutely devestated, and disgusted at SBW.
It's normally hard for me to feel sorry for Canterbury supporters, but I kinda do atm.
Teke, I'm not sure SBW will become an All Black. As I understand, Australia, NZ, and South Africa dont select players who play in Europe, thats why theres been no fuss about Gaz becoming a Wallaby.
Also, he's in a fucking contract. He took the contract at the time because he was coming off a few long spells on the sideline due to injury, and many were questioning how injury prone he is, and if he was worth it. Canterbury showed good faith in him by signing him up to a big money contract, and SBW was stoked at the time.
I also agree with many on here about the state of todays game. scrap the interchange rule, make it 4 subs, and once you're off, you're off. They need to piss wrestling coaches out of the game too.
If he wants to play for the Blacks im sure NZRU would give him every chance to as long as he did what they want ie. Super 14s etc.
But im gee'ing ppl up about him becoming an AB cause it's a looong shot
Achilles
07-27-2008, 11:29 AM
Yeah that of course but i dont think Sonny will be as good at Union as League.
He gets free range in League to run at defenders but Union can take that game out of Sonny. How many players actually make a easy transition and then look great.
Not Many and with Sonny being so big were will he play.
He's not "so big" that's the problem. He's not big enough for a Union forward and maybe too big and not fast enough for an inside centre.
He's not "so big" that's the problem. He's not big enough for a Union forward and maybe too big and not fast enough for an inside centre.Sonny is probably the same weight as Ma'a Nonu who played inside centre the other night. I reckon he'd go ok but its all just fanboy hope from me :D
If Jerry Collins didnt retire (at age 26 ffs) those two in the same team would be a nightmare for everyone
RayKelly
07-27-2008, 03:09 PM
Mundine walked out on his NRL contract because they didnt give him the respect he deserved.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
This is too funny! It should be rephrased to "didn't give him the respect he THOUGHT he deserved"
pecks
07-27-2008, 03:15 PM
Fuck the NRlL are a bunch or retards...
"If SBW plays just one game of union in France we will ban him for life"
:patsch
Err hellllloooo, I'm pretty sure that would sit just fine with SBW.
Also, this is getting shiftier by the hour. Khodder is now denying he's his manager to avoid legal ramifications, and the court case will probably be under international law.
oztriker
07-27-2008, 03:48 PM
Fuck the NRlL are a bunch or retards...
"If SBW plays just one game of union in France we will ban him for life"
:patsch
Err hellllloooo, I'm pretty sure that would sit just fine with SBW.
Also, this is getting shiftier by the hour. Khodder is now denying he's his manager to avoid legal ramifications, and the court case will probably be under international law.
YEAH....Would you expect anything less from the sneaky slimy lying CUNT?:twisted:
Loved to claim the credit....but when the shit hits the fan......:roll:
Sonny Bill's Life is gonna be fucked up big time.....And do I give a shit???
NO FUCKING WAY........Disloyal fucking RETARD deserves all the shit he will get and then some.:yep
oztriker
07-27-2008, 03:51 PM
that's what Khoder hopes i reckon. Dunny Bill Williams to Money Bill Williams :lol::lol::lol:
He def is high proflie
He is high profile...... But his rep is in tatters...:patsch
He struggles to put 2 words together when being interviewed.....Also.....Being a total fucking DUMBARSE....means fewer marketing opportunities:yep
IrnBruMan
07-27-2008, 05:48 PM
Also, this is getting shiftier by the hour. Khodder is now denying he's his manager to avoid legal ramifications, and the court case will probably be under international law.
So SBW is left hanging out to dry while Khoder hides behind the fact that he's not an accredited player manager :lol:
All part of the holy crusade folks :yep
pecks
07-27-2008, 06:27 PM
So SBW is left hanging out to dry while Khoder hides behind the fact that he's not an accredited player manager :lol:
All part of the holy crusade folks :yepHeh. In true Nasser style.
It appears the NRL can't do too much about it, except slap a life time ban on him from playing in the NRL which is something Sonny wouldn't have had in mind anyway.
1.5 million a year is a lot for a 2nd division club to offer. I never knew they had that much money to throw around in French rugby, not in the 2nd division anyway.
The NRL is trying to work something out with the IRU (don't know why the NRL think the IRU would do them any favours) but apparently club rugby contracts are different to the international ones.
I wonder if theres been a few strings pulled and things put in motion for SBW to become an All Black, even though NZ don't (to my understanding) pick players outside the Super 14.
If so, I don't know why the NRL would expect the IRU to do anything to stop it from happening.
pecks
07-27-2008, 06:37 PM
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Khodder giving it to Geyer in a Weidler interview. I might listen to 2sm today at 2 to hear geyers reply on the matter.
Call me a late bloomer, but Weidler is starting to give me the shits.
IrnBruMan
07-27-2008, 06:57 PM
Yt2JjRI4Gk8
Khodder giving it to Geyer in a Weidler interview. I might listen to 2sm today at 2 to hear geyers reply on the matter.
Call me a late bloomer, but Weidler is starting to give me the shits.
That woolly-headed sheep Weidler has always been in Mundine's pocket
I'm sure he gets a few backhand payments from him for his friendly interviewing style.
lol @ Nasser's comments on Geyer's pot use - wasn't Nasser involved in some shady drug-related doings years ago, even though he wasn't convicted for them? :lol:
What a dickhead, notice how he's trying to turn SBW into a martyr? "Poor Sonny Bill, everyone sitting around here thinking of their own selfish needs" etc.
And the fact that Mundine has a relatively unadvertised fight coming up this week didn't escape me :hey
IrnBruMan
07-27-2008, 06:58 PM
Heh. In true Nasser style.
It appears the NRL can't do too much about it, except slap a life time ban on him from playing in the NRL which is something Sonny wouldn't have had in mind anyway.
1.5 million a year is a lot for a 2nd division club to offer. I never knew they had that much money to throw around in French rugby, not in the 2nd division anyway.
The NRL is trying to work something out with the IRU (don't know why the NRL think the IRU would do them any favours) but apparently club rugby contracts are different to the international ones.
I wonder if theres been a few strings pulled and things put in motion for SBW to become an All Black, even though NZ don't (to my understanding) pick players outside the Super 14.
If so, I don't know why the NRL would expect the IRU to do anything to stop it from happening.
What about SBW's passion to play SOO?
Surely if the NRL ban him for life he'll be devastated at never being able to see his plan for Poly dominance of SOO come to fruition? :lol:
Prima donnas, everyone involved with Nasser and Mundine.
pecks
07-27-2008, 07:02 PM
And the fact that Mundine has a relatively unadvertised fight coming up this week didn't escape me :hey:lol::lol::cool:
stiflers mum
07-27-2008, 09:48 PM
Maybe Khoder would be happy to buy out the remaining 4 years of his contract with the doggies? :lol:
the french rugby club are paying it out apparently.thats 2mill on top of the 3mill wow i thought soccer was the no.1 game there.
the french rugby club are paying it out apparently.thats 2mill on top of the 3mill wow i thought soccer was the no.1 game there.Funnily enough its the same French Rugby club that paid Dan Carter 1.5 Mill for a 6 month stint with them.
Looking good for a future AB spot :happy
Pecks All Blacks do pick outside Super 14, it's just that they have never had the need to. If Sonny was to be a future AB he would def have to be coming in from Super 14s
He is high profile...... But his rep is in tatters...:patsch
He struggles to put 2 words together when being interviewed.....Also.....Being a total fucking DUMBARSE....means fewer marketing opportunities:yepI remember you telling me the same thing about Corey the party boy but where is that little cunt now...oh yeah he owns his own party business that is worth half a mill at his age :lol:
stiflers mum
07-27-2008, 11:37 PM
ha ha
stiflers mum
07-27-2008, 11:39 PM
surprise,surprise mundine agrees with what SBW is doing drove him to the airport.i used to think InBruMan was a bit harsh on Gav but i think in relaation to mundine and his cronies he is indeed gay.
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Holy shit :admin he is joining Jerry Collins...farrrrrk that is my dreamteam right there with Tana as Coach. I thought Collins went to Japan where they have even bigger purses to spend on players.
I dont agree with SBW leaving, its show lack of class and intelligence.
but at the same time teams always cut players, even though they have a a year on there contract left, so thats business, its big news cause it SBW who is real overrated,Good point, how many times have clubs axed players and said goodbye :hi:
T.C.W
07-28-2008, 02:36 AM
Good point, how many times have clubs axed players and said goodbye :hi:he can't play for New zealand mate while he is part of contract with the Frog team, They hate all these nation teams like Australia and NZ,SA because they put road blocks in front of them getting there best players like if you go to Frog land for the big money No chance playing for nation team, Which mean no world cup, tri nations or big European tours, It will be SBW contract with the frogs you at here all the time for the 2 years or no money, Why do you think there going for Aussie League players not great young Union players there easy to get to because there is not internation thing like union and they can get them like SBW in there prime.
Super_Fly_Sam
07-28-2008, 02:55 AM
Fuck Sonny....
whoever said it was a dog act was exactly right!
ajay11
07-28-2008, 06:26 AM
Good point on the shoulder charge :yep
Khoder is a prick - he's basically ruined SBW from the time he got his hands on him.
Turned a young bloke with heaps of potential into another whining malcontent.
Good riddance to him.
This comment gives great insight into the bias attitude that those at News Ltd also possess. If Mitchell Pearce (son of Balmain Legend Wayne Pearce) done the same thing, does anyone honestly believe that he would be called a dog by someone like Mark Geyer?
Remember Geyer not only used illegal drugs during his playing career but went accross to Perth to play in the super league competition due to the huge amounts of cash that were thrown at him. His comments show him up to be a hypocrite in the extreme and I have no doubt that should he ever come across SBW he'll run and hide like the dog he is.
Considering that the News Ltd owned "Daily Telegraph" were deeply involved in Super League, is it surprising that they used his comments as some sort of bullshit example on how others think? One also must remember that the Bulldogs were one of the few Sydney based teams that went with News Ltd and Super League that ripped the heart out of the greatest of games.
Writers for The Daily Telegraph are the ones that worked as fast as possible to get this story out so they could set the tone and direction, complete with bias and personal agenda. The fact that bad blood between them and Mundine goes back over a decade, should give cause to anyone with an ounce of intelligence to take all editorials produced by News Ltd reporters with more than a pinch of salt.
In fact their bottled water is exported direct from the Dead Sea!
There's so much omitted in this story that it has allowed certain people to use it for their own agendas. The NRL have been under huge presure, taking fire from all directions. Poor crowds, player behaviour, growing popularity of AFL in areas formerly seen as league strongholds, poker machine tax, rule changes, dangerous tackling techniques and the general direction of the game itself combined with the mass exodus of big name players has their backs against the wall. The poor attempt to portray Sonny Bill as some sort of Judas is a sad reflection on the desperation that David Gallop and others at the NRL are feeling.
Remember, Mark Gasnier is also leaving for France but as nephew of league immortal Reg Gasnier the press know that they can (or choose to) only go so far. Sure there's a difference between the two situations.....one is waiting until the end of the year while the other isn't.
Contract? Since when have league clubs given a fuck about the player when it comes to contracts? Anyone remember what happend at Newcastle last year when the club decided that it would be in their best interest to keep one of their better performing players out of first grade, denying him the opportunity to activate a clause in his contract that would force an upgrade? The press would like us to believe that it was a rare, one off incident but the truth is that Newcastle coach Brian Smith was out of flavour with the fans at the time.
Blow it out of proportion, let it run and sell papers.
When it comes to this story it's really about The Bulldogs keeping their corporate sponsors after years of infighting and drama. The club has been a shambles for years and nothing has changed since a new board was elected, apart from the fact that they now hate one another. This just happens to be the only area where Sonny Bill could have problems if the club goes ahead with legal action because of the corporate link. This is also why Khoder has stated that he is no longer SBW's manager because he could be held complicit in the breaking of a contract.
On the flip side there is the ridiculous situation where you can't be a player's manager unless you are accredited with the NRL. This could be seen as a conflict of interest while Sonny Bill could argue he signed his contract under duress due to the fact that these managers know that it's in their best interest to keep players in the NRL, without pushing their demands for payment to high as that would be damaging for the clubs and the NRL.
In other words, the person responsible for representing the player is really working both sides.
When it comes to loyality in today's era of professional sport it goes as far as a lame horse can "gallop". In the NRL the salary cap makes it impossible for a successful club to keep the same team for more than two years so any talk of loyalty is illogical. Take a look at World Football (soccer) and you'll see how clubs trade player contracts regardless of player consideration. Elite atheletes around the world are hired and fired at the drop of a dime although it comes with the territory of a highly paid professional athlete...unless you play in the NRL.
Australian rugby league players are as professional and elite as any other sportsmen in the world yet their payments do not reflect that. Compare the abilities of David Beckham to Johnathon Thurston and then explain how one earns more in a month than one will in a lifetime? The answer comes back to the management and promotion of the player and the popularity of the sport. This is not the players job, it is the responsibility of the sport's administration and the player's management. If they don't do the job well enough the player has every right to go somewhere where he'll get paid closer to his market price as an elite athelete (or what he and/or others believe he is truely worth.)
The fact that Sonny Bill will be paid significently more in France playing union than he was in league does nothing but prove that Khoder Nasser has done the job that others could not. Others players will follow unless something changes quickly in the NRL regarding player payments.
As for IrnBruMan, even Don King couldn't help promote a cross dressing shemale for anything other than a bit part in a Romanian Circus full of one legged dwarfs....
T.C.W
07-28-2008, 06:55 AM
This comment gives great insight into the bias attitude that those at News Ltd also possess. If Mitchell Pearce (son of Balmain Legend Wayne Pearce) done the same thing, does anyone honestly believe that he would be called a dog by someone like Mark Geyer?
Remember Geyer not only used illegal drugs during his playing career but went accross to Perth to play in the super league competition due to the huge amounts of cash that were thrown at him. His comments show him up to be a hypocrite in the extreme and I have no doubt that should he ever come across SBW he'll run and hide like the dog he is.
Considering that the News Ltd owned "Daily Telegraph" were deeply involved in Super League, is it surprising that they used his comments as some sort of bullshit example on how others think? One also must remember that the Bulldogs were one of the few Sydney based teams that went with News Ltd and Super League that ripped the heart out of the greatest of games.
Writers for The Daily Telegraph are the ones that worked as fast as possible to get this story out so they could set the tone and direction, complete with bias and personal agenda. The fact that bad blood between them and Mundine goes back over a decade, should give cause to anyone with an ounce of intelligence to take all editorials produced by News Ltd reporters with more than a pinch of salt.
In fact their bottled water is exported direct from the Dead Sea!
There's so much omitted in this story that it has allowed cirtain people to use it for their own agendas. The NRL have been under huge presure, taking fire from all directions. Poor crowds, player behaviour, growing popularity of AFL in areas formerly seen as league strongholds, poker machine tax, rule changes, dangerous tackling techniques and the general direction of the game itself combined with the mass exodus of big name players has their backs against the wall. The poor attempt to portray Sonny Bill as some sort of Judas is a sad reflection on the desperation that David Gallop and others at the NRL are feeling.
Remember, Mark Gasnier is also leaving for France but as nephew of league immortal Reg Gasnier the press know that they can (or choose to) only go so far. Sure there's a difference between the two situations.....one is waiting until the end of the year while the other isn't.
Contract? Since when have league clubs given a fuck about the player when it comes to contracts? Anyone remember what happend at Newcastle last year when the club decided that it would be in their best interest to keep one of their better performing players out of first grade, denying him the opportunity to activate a clause in his contrct that would force an upgrade? The press would like us to believe that it was a rare, one off incident but the truth is that Newcastle coach Brian Smith was out of flavour with the fans at the time.
Blow it out of proportion, let it run and sell papers.
When it comes to this story it's really about The Bulldogs keeping their corporate sponsors after years of infighting and drama. The club has been a shambles for years and nothing has changed since a new board was elected, apart from the fact that they now hate one another. This just happens to be the only area where Sonny Bill could have problems if the club goes ahead with legal action because of the corporate link. This is also why Khoder has stated that he is no longer SBW's manager because he could be held complicit in the breaking of a contract.
On the flip side there is the ridiculous situation where you can't be a player's manager unless you are accredited with the NRL. This could be seen as a conflict of interest and Sonny Bill having signed his contract under durress due to the fact that these managers know that it's in their best interest to keep players in the NRL, without pushing their demands for payment to high as that would be damaging for the clubs and the NRL.
In other words, the person responsible for representing the player is really working both sides.
When it comes to loyality in today's era of profession sport it goes as far as a lame horse can gallop. In the NRL the salary cap makes it impossible for a successful club to keep the same team for more than two years so any talk of loyalty is illogical. Take a look at World Football (soccer) and you'll see how clubs trade player contracts regardless of player consideration. Elite atheletes around the world are hired and fired at the drop of a dime although it comes with the territory of a high paid professional athelete...unless you play in the NRL.
Australian rugby league players are as professional and elite as any other sportsmen in the world yet their payments do not reflect that. Compare the abilities of David Beckham to Johnathon Thurston and then explain how one earns more in a months than one will in a lifetime? The answer comes back to the management and promotion of the player and the popularity of the sport. This is not the players job, it is the responsibility of the sport's administration and the player's management. If they don't do the job well enough the player has every right to go somewhere where he'll get paid closer to his market price as an elite athelete (or what he or others believe is his true worth.)
The fact that Sonny Bill will be paid significently more in France playing union than he was in league does nothing but prove that Khoder Nasser has done the job that others could not. Others players will follow unless something changes quickly in the NRL regarding player payments.
As for IrnBruMan, even Don King couldn't help promote a cross dressing shemale for anything other than a bit part in Romanian Circus full of one legged dwarfs....some very good points, but It is the way he did it. It is not rocket science. Nobody in the world would say bad SBW taking the money like Gas, but it was all in the way he did it and Nassar is a big reason. I respect the guy nassar with his ability to make people money and with Williams he has taken the boxing way of doing business, Take all the money you can get your hands on because you can be 1 second way from it disappearing.
oztriker
07-28-2008, 08:05 AM
I remember you telling me the same thing about Corey the party boy but where is that little cunt now...oh yeah he owns his own party business that is worth half a mill at his age :lol:
That's total fucking BULLSHIT......:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You believe that .....You also believe that the Allblacks won't choke in the next World Cup....:D
ajay11
07-28-2008, 08:20 AM
some very good points, but It is the way he did it. It is not rocket science. Nobody in the world would say bad SBW taking the money like Gas, but it was all in the way he did it and Nassar is a big reason. I respect the guy nassar with his ability to make people money and with Williams he has taken the boxing way of doing business, Take all the money you can get your hands on because you can be 1 second way from it disappearing.
Anyone that believes Khoder has that much influence over Sonny Bill would probably believe that Osama Bin Laden is still alive and that George W Bush is Satan.
In reality, Sonny Bill has been unhappy for some time but Willie Mason and Mark O'Meally leaving was the last straw because the Bulldogs asked Williams to take a paycut so that they could keep them.
The only thing Khoder, Choc and big Sol can be implicated in is giving SBW the support and confidence to do what he really wanted to do....get away from Belmore.
Until then he had to deal with those around him spoon feeding him anything and everything they could in an attempt to manipulate and confuse him into going against everything he felt was right. The Bulldogs believed that without Sonny Bill their crippled boat would sink but Khoder and company opened his eyes so that he could see the truth of the matter....that the boat will sink wheather he's on board or not.
Better to get out now.
The Bulldogs fucked him over and now he's gone they're crying foul. If they had done the right thing by him and kept their end of the bargin we wouldn't be discussing this.
That's total fucking BULLSHIT......:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You believe that .....You also believe that the Allblacks won't choke in the next World Cup....:DOz "Never got anything on me" Triker.
Believe what you want brother
Tonight on Triple M Phil Gould killed David Gallop on the radio.
It was like Gould has had this rage forever and was waiting to vent his anger about how NRL has been managed over recent times. Man he brought up some good points about the whole Sonny Bill situation and more.
Watto
07-28-2008, 10:39 AM
Good luck to him,the bulldogs are prob better off without him.It has always been about him and not the team..I hope he struggles in Union
ajay11
07-28-2008, 11:33 AM
Tonight on Triple M Phil Gould killed David Gallop on the radio.
It was like Gould has had this rage forever and was waiting to vent his anger about how NRL has been managed over recent times. Man he brought up some good points about the whole Sonny Bill situation and more.
Not surprised as Gould's overall knowledge of the game is lightyears ahead of Gallops. Shame I missed it.
You can bet The Daily Telegraph will neglect to mention it unless they can put a different spin on it.
Simple fact is that the game would be much better off if someone with the game's best interest at heart ran it. Good example is bringing grand finals back to 3.00pm but Gallop caves into external pressures and leaves it as an evening game, even though the majority of fans want it brought back to 3.00pm AS DO THE PLAYERS.
BTW, the majority of the Bulldogs players were told by Sonny that he was leaving which is why none of them have come forward to bag him, except Andrew Ryan who as club captain had an obligation to tow the club line.
If you listened to him you would have noticed how passive his disappointment really was.
Not surprised as Gould's overall knowledge of the game is lightyears ahead of Gallops. Shame I missed it.
You can bet The Daily Telegraph will neglect to mention it unless they can put a different spin on it.
Simple fact is that the game would be much better off if someone with the game's best interest at heart ran it. Good example is bringing grand finals back to 3.00pm but Gallop caves into external pressures and leaves it as an evening game, even though the majority of fans want it brought back to 3.00pm AS DO THE PLAYERS.
BTW, the majority of the Bulldogs players were told by Sonny that he was leaving which is why none of them have come forward to bag him, except Andrew Ryan who as club captain had an obligation to tow the club line.
If you listened to him you would have noticed how passive his disappointment really was.Gould delved into every aspect he could possibly fit into a 5 minute ramble. His passion was intense but well directed for the good of the game.
Let it be noted he didnt like the way Sonny Bill did what he did but understood his frustrations. I hope something good comes of this with respect to strengthening NRL as a code cause Rugby and it's unlimited funds will start eating away at it.
ajay11
07-28-2008, 12:03 PM
Gould delved into every aspect he could possibly fit into a 5 minute ramble. His passion was intense but well directed for the good of the game.
Let it be noted he didnt like the way Sonny Bill did what he did but understood his frustrations. I hope something good comes of this with respect to strengthening NRL as a code cause Rugby and it's unlimited funds will start eating away at it.
There's so many issues that need to be addressed it aint funny.
The problems started when the privately owned Brisbane Broncos entered the competition....which I'm not going into at 2.00am, but basically it signalled the end of the leagues clubs running the show in co-ordination with the NSWRL and then the ARL.
To run any successful business you need smart, strong willed people who will make the tough decisions in the best interest of the business. Australian rugby league hasn't had that for some time. Instead we get people that choose to wheel and deal in an attempt to keep the money men happy.
Put a line through every decision made since Newtown were ommitted from the competition and start again. :deal
oztriker
07-28-2008, 12:10 PM
Gould delved into every aspect he could possibly fit into a 5 minute ramble. His passion was intense but well directed for the good of the game.
Let it be noted he didnt like the way Sonny Bill did what he did but understood his frustrations. I hope something good comes of this with respect to strengthening NRL as a code cause Rugby and it's unlimited funds will start eating away at it.
I can tell you now what will happen...
Sonny Bill will get an attack of Homesickness..... He won't cope too well with the arrogant French....
What will make it worse ....is that he will soon enough realise that while he is contracted to the Froggies.... he has yours and buckley's of playing for the allblacks....
The Froggies will get the shits when they realise how injury prone he is and he will come under all sorts of pressure to play while injured....
And he will know that he has cut his bridges with Rugby League and there is no going back....
The stupid Cunt has broken a contract and most likely fucked up his life....I won't be crying any tears...
I loathe Canterbury....but they paid a lot of money for a guy who hardly ever managed 2 consecutive games...
I hope the Dumbfuck gets exactly the shit he deserves...
:D
ajay11
07-28-2008, 12:16 PM
I can tell you now what will happen...
Sonny Bill will get an attack of Homesickness..... He won't cope too well with the arrogant French....
What will make it worse ....is that he will soon enough realise that while he is contracted to the Froggies.... he has yours and buckley's of playing for the allblacks....
The Froggies will get the shits when they realise how injury prone he is and he will come under all sorts of pressure to play while injured....
And he will know that he has cut his bridges with Rugby League and there is no going back....
The stupid Cunt has broken a contract and most likely fucked up his life....I won't be crying any tears...
I loathe Canterbury....but they paid a lot of money for a guy who hardly ever managed 2 consecutive games...
I hope the Dumbfuck gets exactly the shit he deserves...
:D
Homesickness can be cured by those big flying objects up in the sky called planes.
As for his ability to play union, I think he'll make a great No.8 and will enjoy being out of the spotlight and having to deal with lounge chair experts and drunken fans like yourself. :yep
The extra cash will do nicely too.
Good luck to the kid. He has been presented with an opportunity that many of us can only dream of...which I guess plays a part in all the vindictiveness.
I can tell you now what will happen...
Sonny Bill will get an attack of Homesickness..... He won't cope too well with the arrogant French....
What will make it worse ....is that he will soon enough realise that while he is contracted to the Froggies.... he has yours and buckley's of playing for the allblacks....
The Froggies will get the shits when they realise how injury prone he is and he will come under all sorts of pressure to play while injured....
And he will know that he has cut his bridges with Rugby League and there is no going back....
The stupid Cunt has broken a contract and most likely fucked up his life....I won't be crying any tears...
I loathe Canterbury....but they paid a lot of money for a guy who hardly ever managed 2 consecutive games...
I hope the Dumbfuck gets exactly the shit he deserves...
:DBitter Bitter man :yep
I can tell you one thing that has gone right for him at the moment, he has left the Bulldogs :deal:lol:
Bomber
07-28-2008, 02:23 PM
Is it really a surprise that under educated sportspeople follow the money?
Rugby League is a regional sport in every country its played in, and as such in the days of Pro Rugby and Northern Hemisphere dominance how is the finacially weak NRL and its 12,000 crowds ( on a good day) going to compete with the glamour of European union?
RL is dying in Australia. It lacks support and backing, can not get outside its traditional niches and has some of the worst behaved figureheads of all major aussie sports.
It suffers from a macho, bullshit mentality and as such atracts the same sort of coverage.
Union has far more to offer a rugby player and fan, and unless Australia can compete with the larger, more powerful nations it will most likely see its major players jump ship.
And who can blame them?
mgal7414
07-28-2008, 04:33 PM
Is it really a surprise that under educated sportspeople follow the money?
Rugby League is a regional sport in every country its played in, and as such in the days of Pro Rugby and Northern Hemisphere dominance how is the finacially weak NRL and its 12,000 crowds ( on a good day) going to compete with the glamour of European union?
RL is dying in Australia. It lacks support and backing, can not get outside its traditional niches and has some of the worst behaved figureheads of all major aussie sports.
It suffers from a macho, bullshit mentality and as such atracts the same sort of coverage.
Union has far more to offer a rugby player and fan, and unless Australia can compete with the larger, more powerful nations it will most likely see its major players jump ship.
And who can blame them?
Well, the teammates, who have a shit side because he took up all of the salary cap, who he completely betrayed, for one.
kruger
07-28-2008, 05:08 PM
Is it really a surprise that under educated sportspeople follow the money?
Rugby League is a regional sport in every country its played in, and as such in the days of Pro Rugby and Northern Hemisphere dominance how is the finacially weak NRL and its 12,000 crowds ( on a good day) going to compete with the glamour of European union?
RL is dying in Australia. It lacks support and backing, can not get outside its traditional niches and has some of the worst behaved figureheads of all major aussie sports.
It suffers from a macho, bullshit mentality and as such atracts the same sort of coverage.
Union has far more to offer a rugby player and fan, and unless Australia can compete with the larger, more powerful nations it will most likely see its major players jump ship.
And who can blame them?
Well, the teammates, who have a shit side because he took up all of the salary cap, who he completely betrayed, for one.
if him having too much of the pie is a problem it was the clubs fault not his...
kruger
07-28-2008, 05:09 PM
Can someone explain to me how rugby league in england has more money than rugby league in australia?
I have never lived in england but understand it to be no where near as popular as it is here.
pecks
07-28-2008, 05:49 PM
Can someone explain to me how rugby league in england has more money than rugby league in australia?
I have never lived in england but understand it to be no where near as popular as it is here.Better currency over there, they probably get more through leagues clubs, ect too.
Their crowds arent better than the NRL's though.
ipswich express
07-28-2008, 06:24 PM
It's through a better television deal with Sky sports too I think. I doubt Rugby League is dying in Australia. If the Super League war of the 90s didn't kill it, not much will. When you're talking about Origin being sold out in 45 mins like it ALWAYS is in Qld, there's obviously still a solid support.
pecks
07-28-2008, 07:22 PM
Apparently SBW seeked legal advice before he left Australia regarding the salary cap being used as a restraint of trade. If it goes to court, he'll use this as his defence.
The NRL have a bad record when it comes to court cases, and if SBW is successful, it could very well open up a can of worms for other clubs, players ect.
COULDHAVEBEEN
07-28-2008, 08:20 PM
Hope the NRL gives him a life suspension. If you sign on for 5 years and piss off after 1 or 2, with little to no warning, you have no honour.
I'm the first to admit I'm no NRL expert. But strikes me this bloke is the most selfish player in the comp since a bloke called Mundine!
Dr Gonzo
07-28-2008, 08:38 PM
Fuck him and fuck the bullwogs
stiflers mum
07-28-2008, 09:45 PM
It's through a better television deal with Sky sports too I think. I doubt Rugby League is dying in Australia. If the Super League war of the 90s didn't kill it, not much will. When you're talking about Origin being sold out in 45 mins like it ALWAYS is in Qld, there's obviously still a solid support.
exactly RL survived tuquiri, sailor,rogers leaving the sky didnt fall in did it.there will be more exciting players coming through like your sandows,suttons
and sowards and union will always be dull run,kick,run,kick with dozens of penaltys and and those group sex thingies rucks and mauls i think they call it.league will be fine this is all just media talk in 6 months time it will be sonny who?
TheDuke
07-29-2008, 12:31 AM
Is it really a surprise that under educated sportspeople follow the money?
Rugby League is a regional sport in every country its played in, and as such in the days of Pro Rugby and Northern Hemisphere dominance how is the finacially weak NRL and its 12,000 crowds ( on a good day) going to compete with the glamour of European union?
RL is dying in Australia. It lacks support and backing, can not get outside its traditional niches and has some of the worst behaved figureheads of all major aussie sports.
It suffers from a macho, bullshit mentality and as such atracts the same sort of coverage.
Union has far more to offer a rugby player and fan, and unless Australia can compete with the larger, more powerful nations it will most likely see its major players jump ship.
And who can blame them?
If you asked the average man on the street in Sydney or Brisbane to name 5 current RU players I think they would struggle. Especially if they weren't allowed to name ex-RL players.
The strength of union here and O/S is based on elitism. For the most part, the general public does not go to rugby internationals in Australia, the tickets are purchased in bulk by clubs and the opposing nation and sold on to their members. Super 14 games get decent attendances but a large portion of the crowd are private school kids and old boys there for the social event. Additionally there are very few home games compared to rugby league.
***digression***
In France, Rugby League was bigger than soccer and union crowd wise before the second world war. When the Nazi collaborationist government got in power after the Germans invaded, they BANNED rugby league and handed the leagues assets to the RU. This effectively 'broke' rugby league in France and it has never recovered.
Union is a Nazi sport!!!!!!!
***end stupiod digression***
The main source of RL news in Australia is through News Ltd. Despite having a financial stake in the game, it mission seems to be to find scandal and discontentment in the game. The Daily Telegraph is the New Idea of rugby league, nothing more than a gossip rag when it comes to sport. In my opinion, AFL is just as scandal ridden as league but less noise is made about it. It's reported and not harped on. Whereas Sydney writers would beat the story to within an inch of its life.
AFL writers seem to show a respect and love for, and most importantly, a knowledge of, the game of AFL.
The biggest problem with rugby league is that it is half privately owned. That means that people somwhere expect a dividend. If it was 100% owned by an administration run purely for the game, then there would be a lot more money to spend on development, promotion and grants.
PS - I know that was well off topic.
BTW Has anyone considered that Sonny Bill may be struggling financially? One of the papers claims that he pays 9000 a month in interest payments at the moment. That's 108,000 per year. And he's on 200k after tax at bulldogs?
ipswich express
07-29-2008, 02:21 AM
exactly RL survived tuquiri, sailor,rogers leaving the sky didnt fall in did it.there will be more exciting players coming through like your sandows,suttons
and sowards and union will always be dull run,kick,run,kick with dozens of penaltys and and those group sex thingies rucks and mauls i think they call it.league will be fine this is all just media talk in 6 months time it will be sonny who?
Actually I disagree with you on that one. The new rule changes have made the game far more exciting, last week's Bledisloe was proof of that. End to end stuff.
the beaver
07-29-2008, 02:32 AM
BTW Has anyone considered that Sonny Bill may be struggling financially? One of the papers claims that he pays 9000 a month in interest payments at the moment. That's 108,000 per year. And he's on 200k after tax at bulldogs?[/quote]
Mate this doesn't surprise me at all. In fact i'm paid well above most average first graders, people seem to think they are highly paid. After tax the top players don't clear as much as we think or papers report.
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