Cotto is Going to Beat Shane

[acb]

Shane is one of my all time favorite fighters, but I think Cotto is going to punish his body. He will have a difficult time with Shanes combos early, but to keep Cotto off you have to have a great jab, and more than anything Shane paws with his jab these days.

Cotto will catch him late.

[the_what]

Damn straight.

[scurlaruntings]

Im afraid the Cotto freight train stops here.Stylistically Shane is a nightmare for anyone at 47.His chin is sound and he can punch just as hard as Cotto.This will be a war thats for dam sure and surely has FOTY written all over it. Boxing is back on the map! I hope this fight gets more PR than that Winky B Hop debacle.

[TheGreat]

Unless Mosley gets alot older over night I think he will TKO Cotto who may be powerful but is there to be hit.

[acb]

Im afraid the Cotto freight train stops here.Stylistically Shane is a nightmare for anyone at 47.His chin is sound and he can punch just as hard as Cotto.This will be a war thats for dam sure and surely has FOTY written all over it. Boxing is back on the map! I hope this fight gets more PR than that Winky B Hop debacle.

:nono

Somone lied to you. Fucked up how people are these days. :-(

[acb]

Poll added.

[surreal deal]

whens the fight?

[acb]

Unless Mosley gets alot older over night I think he will TKO Cotto who may be powerful but is there to be hit.

Yes but Mosely punches best in combination, and so leaves himself to be countered by Cotto. Once he feels that body punishment he will throw less.

Like I said, you have to have a tremendous jab to throw Cotto off and to lead your combos. You need that split second on him that a solid jab affords you and Shane doesnt fight like that these days.

[Napoleon]

Mosley by UD.

[TheGreat]

:nono

Somone lied to you. Fucked up how people are these days. :-(

SSM has 37 KO's out of 44 wins so he can definitely crack and has been fighting bigger and beeter opposition as well.

[brooklyn1550]

I like Cotto by decision

[acb]

SSM has 37 KO's out of 44 wins so he can definitely crack and has been fighting bigger and beeter opposition as well.

No doubt he can crack.

However, many of his KOs came at 135lb where he was a huge fighter.

Also, he punches in combination, Im talking about 1 shot power, which I can guarantee he does not have more of than Cotto.

Just ask yourself who you would rather have punch you in the ribs.

[paulfv]

Mosley will whip Cotto's ass.

[the_what]

Cotto has shown in the past that hand and foot speed are not a problem for him. Mosley's heart and determination could be problems though.

[younghov2k4]

im leaning towards Mosley on this. i dont know if i would bet on it.

[DoumB]

mosley by TKO

[Doomas]

Mosley by UD, he can work from distance, he's a good counter puncher, and he packs some power behind those punches.
I doubt Mosley can KO cotto but if that happens I will be greatly impressed.

[obedt]

This is the one opponent I can confidently say Miguel has little chance of knocking out. It's a toss-up for me.

[achillesthegreat]

Cotto has to do what he now has a shitload of experience doing! He needs to cut the ring down, work the body, invest with well placed head shots, slow Mosley down and turn the heat up.

Cotto is a rising tide that eventually overwhelms all that stands in his way!

Is Mosley the man to stop the rising tide?

I like what Cotto is about and I believe (like Lamps said for Judah) that Shane will find himself on the wrong side of a rising tide!

This fight is 50-50. The young gun looking for greatness against the old vet who has seen your kind before. A changing of the guard or maybe even a Duran-Moore 2007?!?!?!?!?!

I am just going to immerse myself in the brillance of this match up!

PLUS, if Floyd vacates his 147 belt to fight Hatton at 140 then this fight will be for the lineal title.

[paulfv]

Unless SSM is faded from age, and I don't think he is, I think he will KO/TKO Cotto. Too fast, too strong, too experienced.

[bb251]

mosley by ud... cotto will come to fight though...

[Vantage_West]

Im afraid the Cotto freight train stops here.Stylistically Shane is a nightmare for anyone at 47.His chin is sound and he can punch just as hard as Cotto.This will be a war thats for dam sure and surely has FOTY written all over it. Boxing is back on the map! I hope this fight gets more PR than that Winky B Hop debacle.thats what i been saying speed with power (zab) with training and conditioning (mosley) cotto is going to have trouble...did people completly forget how hurt cotto was against zab torres...even fucking CORLEY...now if anyone knows anythign corley is a technician he wins by jabbing being slick and just not getting hit his punces are point getters...and he made cotto's legs do all types of breack dance.

cotto is a brutal puncher and his style doesnt respect a jab and thats is a dangerous thing for mosley if his jab or power cant back him up then thats it.

[scurlaruntings]

:nono

Somone lied to you. Fucked up how people are these days. :-(You must be new to boxing:think:patsch

[paulfv]

Is this guy for real?
Let's hope not

[ChampionsForever]

If Cotto can catch Malinaggi than he can catch anybody, Shane's gonna lose this one and probably by knockout which will lead to a summer 2008 mega fight with DLH.

[scurlaruntings]

thats what i been saying speed with power (zab) with training and conditioning (mosley) cotto is going to have trouble...did people completly forget how hurt cotto was against zab torres...even fucking CORLEY...now if anyone knows anythign corley is a technician he wins by jabbing being slick and just not getting hit his punces are point getters...and he made cotto's legs do all types of breack dance.

cotto is a brutal puncher and his style doesnt respect a jab and thats is a dangerous thing for mosley if his jab or power cant back him up then thats it.Shane doesnt really use a jab.Its more like a range finder so he can throw power shots.Either way whoever has the better chin as this fight will be at close quarters and we all know thats Shane.

[Slothrop]

I'm not betting against Cotto again.

[achillesthegreat]

Either way - the winner moves into the top ten p4p...
I'm going to put them as high as I can. Cotto beats a great fighter and Mosley beats a huge threat in his era while getting on abit (at least on his birth certificate).

[InHumanForm]

If Cotto can catch Malinaggi than he can catch anybody, Shane's gonna lose this one and probably by knockout which will lead to a summer 2008 mega fight with DLH.

my thoughts exactly. I know this is one PPV I will for sure be buying.

[tampa]

fuck they are my favorite fighters. Im going with cotto baby. he hasnt let me down. undefeated baby

[Toopretty]

:nono

Somone lied to you. Fucked up how people are these days. :-(



HAAHHA YOU RIGHT THAT WAS FUNNY....LOL Shane punches as hard as cotto..wow....lol..Shane would have to catch cotto with something he doesnt see. If Shane trades you might seen Shane get stopped for the first time..Shane never ate body shots like what cotto is going to bring. Shane can take a big punch. I dont know if he can take exchanging with cotto. THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FIGHT OF THE YEAR. Better then zab/cotto b/c shane likes to exchange boy oh boy.....boxing if fucking back...you cannot complain...:happy

[Jinx]

Mosley doesn't sit down on his punches anymore, and i see that as a problem for him if he fights Cotto...but Mosley's handspeed will still be a problem for Cotto, and Mosley is alot more disciplined than the Judah Cotto beat...it's a toss-up fight but i'll say Mosley takes a SD...

[psychopath]

Shane is one of my all time favorite fighters, but I think Cotto is going to punish his body. He will have a difficult time with Shanes combos early, but to keep Cotto off you have to have a great jab, and more than anything Shane paws with his jab these days.

Cotto will catch him late.

Same here buddy . . . Shane is one of my all time fav but here I'm torn between the two. I don't really know who to root for. :D

My instincts tells me the young Cotto will beat the Old warrior but my heart says Mosley.:yep

[Relentless]

HAAHHA YOU RIGHT THAT WAS FUNNY....LOL Shane punches as hard as cotto..wow....lol..Shane would have to catch cotto with something he doesnt see. If Shane trades you might seen Shane get stopped for the first time..Shane never ate body shots like what cotto is going to bring. Shane can take a big punch. I dont know if he can take exchanging with cotto. THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FIGHT OF THE YEAR. Better then zab/cotto b/c shane likes to exchange boy oh boy.....boxing if fucking back...you cannot complain...:happy

what the hell are you talking about boy?

shane took oscar de la hoyas left hooks and didn't get dropped and you dont think he can exchange with cotto?? cotto isn't a one pnch ko artist.

[Antwuan Maxx]

SSM has 37 KO's out of 44 wins so he can definitely crack and has been fighting bigger and beeter opposition as well.

Shane also has one KO in the last six years, and that came against a shot, weight drained Fernando Vargas.

[C Money]

I cant pick this one just yet, but I'm favoring Cotto slightly right now.

As for the power issue with SSM?? Since he left 35 and moved to 47
he's had 17 fights 12 wins 4 losses, and 7 Ko's with 1 No contest.
He doesnt have 1 punch power at this weight but still has pretty decent pop with over 50% Ko ratio.

I dont see Mosley winning by KO in this, if he wins. I also cant believe Cotto stops him either, Shanes as tough as they make em. He took convincing beatings from Forrest and Wright and still finished the fights.

This definitely sounds like a decision and could go either way, I guess I'm hoping Cotto wins as PBf will attempt to push the timeline way out if he beats Hatton and is called upon to face the winner. And old Mosley will only be that much older and this war with Cotto will likely take somne starch out of him, even if he pulls the W.

[Alo2006]

Cotto is going to hit the canvas atlease 2 times. Mosley by UD though :bbb

[C Money]

Shane also has one KO in the last six years, and that came against a shot, weight drained Fernando Vargas.

he ko'd vargas twice.

[psychopath]

I cant pick this one just yet, but I'm favoring Cotto slightly right now.

As for the power issue with SSM?? Since he left 35 and moved to 47
he's had 17 fights 12 wins 4 losses, and 7 Ko's with 1 No contest.
He doesnt have 1 punch power at this weight but still has pretty decent pop with over 50% Ko ratio.

I dont see Mosley winning by KO in this, if he wins. I also cant believe Cotto stops him either, Shanes as tough as they make em. He took convincing beatings from Forrest and Wright and still finished the fights.

This definitely sounds like a decision and could go either way, I guess I'm hoping Cotto wins as PBf will attempt to push the timeline way out if he beats Hatton and is called upon to face the winner. And old Mosley will only be that much older and this war with Cotto will likely take somne starch out of him, even if he pulls the W.

Good one! :yep

[Alo2006]

Shane also has one KO in the last six years, and that came against a shot, weight drained Fernando Vargas.

Only because he was at 154 :yep

[Toopretty]

what the hell are you talking about boy?

shane took oscar de la hoyas left hooks and didn't get dropped and you dont think he can exchange with cotto?? cotto isn't a one pnch ko artist.

Yeah.. Oscar got a big left hook. But cotto bangs hard and fast with both hands..A guy you dont want to exchange with. Period. Shane does not hit as hard as cotto. Shane hits smart..but not hard consistently like cotto. Cotto never throws a lazy jab let alone an arm punch:hi:

[Relentless]

Yeah.. Oscar got a big left hook. But cotto bangs hard and fast with both hands..A guy you dont want to exchange with. Period. Shane does not hit as hard as cotto. Shane hits smart..but not hard consistently like cotto. Cotto never throws a lazy jab let alone an arm punch:hi:

everybody knows i am probably the biggest cotto fan on this board, if he was fighting anyone else i would have already made the thread:

'cotto is going to hit _ _ _ _ _ _ so hard that he is going to need a proctologist to find his gumshield' just like i did for the judah fight

but to say mosley doesn't hit as hard as cotto is just stooopid, mosley has power, cotto hardley ever knocks anyone out early, he breaks them down, malignaggi was able to trade with him and survive, so did judah until the 11th.

[MSTR]

Yeah.. Oscar got a big left hook. But cotto bangs hard and fast with both hands..A guy you dont want to exchange with. Period. Shane does not hit as hard as cotto. Shane hits smart..but not hard consistently like cotto. Cotto never throws a lazy jab let alone an arm punch:hi:
Totally agree that Mosley doesn't hit as hard as Cotto. Mosley is faster but Cotto is more consistent. Both are good combination punchers, but I feel that Cotto is the better in close quarters, and I can't see that lazy jab from Shane keeping Cotto at bay.

[Bazooka]

Shane is one of my all time favorite fighters, but I think Cotto is going to punish his body. He will have a difficult time with Shanes combos early, but to keep Cotto off you have to have a great jab, and more than anything Shane paws with his jab these days.

Cotto will catch him late.

as long as Cotto works that body, Shane does have fast hands though so did Zab and that didnt help. I expect Shane to actually make the fight close though, but the roll that Cotto has been on I aint counting him out here he is younger and hungry.

[Amsterdam]

I like Cotto by decision

I like Cotto by decision as well.

[Antwuan Maxx]

he ko'd vargas twice.

No. He KO'd Vargas once, and won the other by stoppage due to excessive swelling(stemming from a headbutt)around Vargas' eye.

Only because he was at 154 :yep

Collazo, Estrada, and Cruz were all at 147.

[MSTR]

I like Cotto by decision as well.
Count me in. A close UD, but Cotto gets it. I can see both fighters taking some punishment though.

[Mind Reader]

I gotta go with Mosley.

[Antwuan Maxx]

everybody knows i am probably the biggest cotto fan on this board, if he was fighting anyone else i would have already made the thread:

'cotto is going to hit _ _ _ _ _ _ so hard that he is going to need a proctologist to find his gumshield' just like i did for the judah fight

but to say mosley doesn't hit as hard as cotto is just stooopid, mosley has power, cotto hardley ever knocks anyone out early, he breaks them down, malignaggi was able to trade with him and survive, so did judah until the 11th.

Not to say Mosley is feather fisted (because he clearly isn't), but at 147, I'm not seeing this power. He couldn't KO or hurt Collazo, who was in more trouble against Hatton and Rivera than anytime in their fight. He couldn't KO Estrada (though he hurt him to the body once) who was starched by Cintron. And he couldn't put a dent in Cruz after hitting him with everything but the kitchen sink. Where is the power at? :huh I'm just not seeing it.

[Bazooka]

I cringe when I think about that first fight Shane had with Forrest late in that fight he landed some killer body shots that fucked shane up, Cotto is going to go to that body, it would be interesting to see how Shane deals with it.

[PeterNielsen70]

I like Cotto by decision as well.

Yes, I agree, but does anybody know if the fighter’s data regarding their heights are spot on?

Mosley is stated at 5’9” and Cotto only at 5’7”?

Hmm, Cotto has only fought 3 times at welterweight and the rest at light welter or lower. Mosley’s two fights against Vargas and the two against Winky was at light middleweight. So Mosley will be the bigger guy for a change? That has to be taken into consideration also, I think. :huh :think

[Imperial1]

I like Mosley by decision .Hand speed goes to Mosley Power goes to Cotto ..Experience Mosley ...Considering who Mosley has fought I like his chances ..This isn't Malinagi or Judah ..Cotto is in for a long night ..

[MSTR]

Not to say Mosley is feather fisted (because he clearly isn't), but at 147, I'm not seeing this power. He couldn't KO or hurt Collazo, who was in more trouble against Hatton and Rivera than anytime in their fight. He couldn't KO Estrada (though he hurt him to the body once) who was starched by Cintron. And he couldn't put a dent in Cruz after hitting him with everything but the kitchen sink. Where is the power at? :huh I'm just not seeing it.
Good post. Totally agree.

[King Dan]

I like Mosley by decision .Hand speed goes to Mosley Power goes to Cotto ..Experience Mosley ...Considering who Mosley has fought I like his chances ..This isn't Malinagi or Judah ..Cotto is in for a long night ..

Agreed.

Shane and Miguel are 2 of my favorite 5 fighters.

I like Shane to win based on his hand speed and inside fighting ability.

[Shotgun]

Mosley will outclass Cotto and bust him up if they fight

[Antwuan Maxx]

Yes, I agree, but does anybody know if the fighter’s data regarding their heights are spot on?

Mosley is stated at 5’9” and Cotto only at 5’7”?

Hmm, Cotto has only fought 3 times at welterweight and the rest at light welter or lower. Mosley’s two fights against Vargas and the two against Winky was at light middleweight. So Mosley will be the bigger guy for a change? That has to be taken into consideration also, I think. :huh :think


I doubt it man. Shane is an average sized welter. He only gained 7 pounds after the weigh-in for Collazo and was outweighed by 6 pounds.

[Imperial1]

Agreed.

Shane and Miguel are 2 of my favorite 5 fighters.

I like Shane to win based on his hand speed and inside fighting ability.


Its going to be an interesting fight PLUEEEEEEEZE LET THIS BE AT MSG !

[aliwasthegreatest]

as long as Cotto works that body, Shane does have fast hands though so did Zab and that didnt help. I expect Shane to actually make the fight close though, but the roll that Cotto has been on I aint counting him out here he is younger and hungry.
it did help he just wasn't able to adjust like he needed. i'd say hurting cotto 2-3 times seriously in the fight is some sort of help

[C Money]

No. He KO'd Vargas once, and won the other by stoppage due to excessive swelling(stemming from a headbutt)around Vargas' eye.



Collazo, Estrada, and Cruz were all at 147.


It wasnt just a headbutt causing that swelling, Mosley landed plenty. and a TKO or KO still counts in the stoppage department.

If you look at my earlier posts SSM is 12-4-1NC with 7 fights stopped since moving to 47. You are right that the only stoppages achieved since 01 both came vs Vargas.

[IntentionalButt]

I'm really shocked at some of the people picking Cotto. I like the guy too, and think he's capable of great wins over just about every other welterweight - but until I see irrefutable proof that Shane is done, a still-game Mosley goes to town on Miguel. Not a shred of doubt in my mind. If Cotto upsets him, I will literally, in no particular order: eat my hat, rank him #1 p4p, shit a brick, blow my lid, have kittens

[1lehudson]

Shane is one of my all time favorite fighters, but I think Cotto is going to punish his body. He will have a difficult time with Shanes combos early, but to keep Cotto off you have to have a great jab, and more than anything Shane paws with his jab these days.

Cotto will catch him late.I doubt that cotto will be around in the late rounds.:!:

[MSTR]

I'm really shocked at some of the people picking Cotto. I like the guy too, and think he's capable of great wins over just about every other welterweight - but until I see irrefutable proof that Shane is done, a still-game Mosley goes to town on Miguel. Not a shred of doubt in my mind. If Cotto upsets him, I will literally, in no particular order: eat my hat, rank him #1 p4p, shit a brick, blow my lid, have kittens
Is there some way to save this quote... Because I am more then ready to hold you to this. If Cotto loses I will shit a hat and eat a brick instead.

[IntentionalButt]

I doubt that cotto will be around in the late rounds.:!:

I don't think he'll quit or go to sleep, but Evangelista's stomach will turn at the sight of so much blood.

[IntentionalButt]

Is there some way to save this quote... Because I am more then ready to hold you to this. If Cotto loses I will shit a hat and eat a brick instead.

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Bookmarked :good

[MSTR]

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Bookmarked :good
I just hope you'll be able to provide the kittens with a good home.

[errsta]

People see a speedy African-American fighter and they automatically assume a boxer. Don't get it twisted with Shane, though...the guy is as macho as they come: Especially when his father is in his corner. Mosley's dad, unlike John David Jackson, is a proponent of "Power Boxing". Move forward, punch in combinations, etc...

Mosley is no slouch when it comes to working the body and when' he's on he is one of the best in the business with that left hook to the body. He is a full 12 round fighter (won't fade).

My only worry with Shane is that he has fallen apart when things haven't gone his way. Not to the extent of a, say, Zab Judah - but he doesn't seem to have a solid "Plan B" when he needs one. I don't see that being a factor here. Shane has been troubled by taller fighters that present a stiff, consistent jab. That is not Cotto's style. If Cotto's "Plan A" (pressure) does not work, I don't think his "Plan B" (boxing) is strong enough to deter Mosley.

To those that feel Cotto will bully shane, I am not in agreement with you. I've given other people the strength advantage over shane in the past (based on size) but the guy is deceptively strong.

It's Shane's fight to lose, IMO. My safe bet is on a UD for Shane. My gut feeling is that Shane will go for the stoppage when he smells blood - And he gets it.

I'll take Mosley by 10th round stoppage - I just hope he's ready for the famous, patented puerto rican undercut to the giblets.

[Druid]

I think they are both in for a long night. Mosley is a strong fighter and will definitely not be bullied by Cotto. Cotto's hand speed is very underrated, he is not flashy, but he catches everyone A LOT.

Cotto was in serious trouble against Torres but never against Judah, stopped in his tracks yes, but no where close to being KO'd. I have yet to see him in serious trouble at 147.

This is one of the fights where I am up for both guys as they both seem like good lads and certainly represent the sport in a most favorable light.

Although I wouldn't put money on it I favour Cotto in a war where both men are tested. He is younger hungrier, unbeaten and totally relentless.

[MSTR]

I think they are both in for a long night. Mosley is a strong fighter and will definitely not be bullied by Cotto. Cotto's hand speed is very underrated, he is not flashy, but he catches everyone A LOT.

Cotto was in serious trouble against Torres but never against Judah, stopped in his tracks yes, but no where close to being KO'd. I have yet to see him in serious trouble at 147.

This is one of the fights where I am up for both guys as they both seem like good lads and certainly represent the sport in a most favorable light.

Although I wouldn't put money on it I favour Cotto in a war where both men are tested. He is younger hungrier, unbeaten and totally relentless.
Good post.

[Rumsfeld]

Shane is one of my favorite fighters, and I honestly think this is going to be an extrtemely difficult bout for him. I think he can win, but I favor Cotto ever-so-slightly.

The better match-up for Mosley would have been a bout against Mayweather.

Mosley can't fight going backwards and I don't see him having an easy time backing Cotto up.

I'll be pulling for Mosley, and Mosley deserves all the credit in the world for NEVER ducking a challenge, but he may be outworked by a younger/hungrier foe.

[IntentionalButt]

I keep hearing how hungry Mosley supposedly isn't. The man doesn't need to be fighting right now. He could at this stage, pull a Floyd and live off his past winnings and the fat of Golden Boy's flank, with a comfortably secure legacy as one of the best of his generation.

From what I gather based on interviews with Shane over the past year or so, he thinks he is still the best of the current crop, and sees a bunch of young guys with belts and prestige he could easily snatch away. He trained his ass off as usual for both Vargas fights, and while that 154 lb body didn't carry the speed of his classic form, he damn sure brought the fire and the desire, giving no ground in spanking a former top guy. Against Collazo he showed a few more flashes of his old speed and never let the younger guy catch his breath, let alone forget who he was in there with.

I'm not saying he's complacent, but Cotto's never tasted defeat. Shane has twice lost to a guy, come back for more only to lose again, and still wants to mix it up on a world-class level when by all rights he could retire without his family's standard of living skipping a beat. He's fighting for the respect and the status that nobody right now can definitively claim to be heir to. I say not only is the hunger still there...his tummy might well rumble louder than MAC's. :deal

[myk]

I pick Cotto against Mosley

[Alo2006]

Cotto will taste his first lost :yep

[teke]

SSM has 37 KO's out of 44 wins so he can definitely crack and has been fighting bigger and beeter opposition as well.There is the truth right there :good

[C Money]

There is the truth right there :good

He's 12-4-1NC with 7 Ko's above 135, that's the TRUTH!!! Yes mosley has pop but he's not a devastating puncher above 35, he is an ATG Boxer, IMO. Fast, skilled, and tough as nails even when getting his head caved in as in the first fights vs Forrest and Wright. He had the balls to rematch both and did better showing a fortitude FEW HAVE, yet still losing.

[MSTR]

He's 12-4-1NC with 7 Ko's above 135, that's the TRUTH!!! Yes mosley has pop but he's not a devastating puncher above 35, he is an ATG Boxer, IMO. Fast, skilled, and tough as nails even when getting his head caved in as in the first fights vs Forrest and Wright. He had the balls to rematch both and did better showing a fortitude FEW HAVE, yet still losing.
Great post. Statistics can be manipulated so easily to prove someones point. When I saw that post I was thinking the same thing I just couldn't be bothered getting the actual stats. His KO percentage in his last few fights have not been great, and although Cotto's chin is average I think it will be enough to get him through.

[C Money]

Jesus!!! I'm inebriated at the moment but Req is posting at crystal meth speed with the triple.

I respect BOTH FIGHTERS TREMENDOUSLY!!

I admit I was a Cotto hater in the beginning, but he beat that shit right out of me with Malignaggi and Quintana. I confess that I truly believed Quintana's boxing ability and size was bringing an end to Cotto's rise.

I'm man enough to face the fact that I was wrong and salute Miguel as one of the top 47 fighters. SSM is a superb boxer and I'm going to wait before I actually pick a winner.

[C Money]

Great post. Statistics can be manipulated so easily to prove someones point. When I saw that post I was thinking the same thing I just couldn't be bothered getting the actual stats. His KO percentage in his last few fights have not been great, and although Cotto's chin is average I think it will be enough to get him through.

If you wanna take it a step further SSM hasnt KO'd anyone aside from Vargas at 54 since 2001, credit Antwun Maxx with distinguishing that point.

[jimmie]

I think Cottos style fits right into Mosley hands as long as the Shane who likes to exchange wisely and use his feet and headmovement good shows up. Mosleys too fast and probablly hits to hard for the medicore chinned Cotto. Mosley doesnt get tired and can take a hell of a body punch but of course he can with abs like that. Cottos pretty good but so basic and easy to figure out he walks forward throws a occasional stiff jab and usually throws combos to the body and his defense is pretty bad hes wide open for uppercuts right down the middle. Mosley brutal stoppage in 6.

[jimmie]

Shane is one of my favorite fighters, and I honestly think this is going to be an extrtemely difficult bout for him. I think he can win, but I favor Cotto ever-so-slightly.

The better match-up for Mosley would have been a bout against Mayweather.

Mosley can't fight going backwards and I don't see him having an easy time backing Cotto up.

I'll be pulling for Mosley, and Mosley deserves all the credit in the world for NEVER ducking a challenge, but he may be outworked by a younger/hungrier foe.

Who says Mosley has to be going backwards ? Theres a difference between going backwards and moving side to side. Mosleys got longer reach,faster hands,faster feet,better all around defense in anway you can judge defense,WAY BETTER CHIN,more experience plus hes a counter puncher Cottos a real basic fighter he doesnt do a whole lot of different things hes easy to figure out when your as GREAT as Mosley is. Cottos dam good but his best win is over Zab Judah who lets face it has great talent but isnt a great fighter and was busting Cottos ass until he got his dick punched into his stomach. Zab Judah is in no way or will he ever be as good as Sugar Shane Mosley.

[C Money]

I think Cottos style fits right into Mosley hands as long as the Shane who likes to exchange wisely and use his feet and headmovement good shows up. Mosleys too fast and probablly hits to hard for the medicore chinned Cotto. Mosley doesnt get tired and can take a hell of a body punch but of course he can with abs like that. Cottos pretty good but so basic and easy to figure out he walks forward throws a occasional stiff jab and usually throws combos to the body and his defense is pretty bad hes wide open for uppercuts right down the middle. Mosley brutal stoppage in 6.

Abs dont mean shit when hit with the liver punch, the trick is to land when you're opponent isnt ready/tensed for it:good

Cotto hits hard with both hands and is very consistent in his attack on a round by round basis. This is truly tough to call, IMO.

[jimmie]

I also think Cotto is going to beat Shane. Cotto has shown several times in the past that superior speed isn't something he can't overcome. Malignaggi, Quintana and Judah all had faster hands than Cotto. All got the living piss knocked out of them.

Cotto has looked more impressive at welterweight lately...even a shot Vargas was still able to go almost even money with Mosley for 10 rounds. Shane's power at 147 doesn't look anything like it did around the time he moved up and beat De La Hoya and made a few title defenses. Mosley looked good against Collazo, but Collazo is quite a lazy fighter. I mean, he's talented but when I watch him fight it's very frustrating because he isn't consistant.

Vargas of the 1st fight was able to make Mosley fight the fight he wanted to once that eye blew up. Mosley didnt move his head nor his feet and only threw overhand rights and pull straight back open for Vargas lead right hands. Rematch Mosley fought smarter made adjustments and gave Vargas his only real bad loss where he was dominated start to finish.

[BodyBlaster]

I think this fight is the best fight that can be made in boxing right now, and its a live fight.
Cotto is relentless, and keeps coming, and coming with his educated pressure, but he can be hurt badly, and Shane no doubt has the pop to hurt him.

If Cotto tastes the power early, what happens?

How will Mosely react to the pressure?

I think Cotto will beat Mosely, but the only thing Id be on is its a cracking fight.

[carras]

Go Cotto! RIP mosley.

[mad_schultz]

Shane has 4 losses to 2 people - and both of them have magnificient jabs. Plus, in Wright's case, there was considerable size difference.

Tell me - what kind of problems can Cotto present, which Shane can't solve. He's bloody strong, relentless and brilliant to the body himself.

Mosley TKO11

[whatfruit]

I dont care who wins. When you here a fight like this anncounced it makes you want to cry, thank you god THANK You!

[Relentless]

Oh and one more thing.....SHANE IS IN SUPERB SHAPE....I MEAN THE MAN IS IN SUPERB SHAPE RIGHT NOW!

i see you had a look at freddy's pics right?

[bill poster]

Shane is going to KO Cotto

[HopkinsFan]

voted cotto but it really could go either way, Mosley could get discouraged if he can't connect much, which i think he will but who knows. then if he does get discouraged and keeps getting pounded by Cotto's bodywork he could go into defense mode and be there the rest of the night. i really am not sure how it will go though..
Cotto by UD

[Koa]

I think this fight very well could take a toll on Mosely. Thing is stylistically both fighters have a chance, however Shane is the type of fighter that retaliates quickly, has booming power in both hands and is more likely to suffer through an all out war through sheer will to come out with a victory.. Not saying Cotto isn't capable of the same.. Thing is I think Shane hasn't taken a huge toll on his body yet.. Classic matchup.. Shane could very well rock Cotto and finish him off.. You go to the body you leave your head open, Shane moves around so much laterally its going to be hard for Cotto to get him to move straight back, which means Cotto will be going for body shots to try and slow him down which is where the openings to Cotto's head will come from, Shane will land to the head unless father time has caught up with him.

I think Shane may very well come off with either a K.O. victory or a hell bent U.D. in which he takes some severe punishment from Cotto and is the more beat up fighter in the end.

[ayala]

This will be a better fight than Cotto vs Mayweather.I believe that the winner of this would be the best welterweight.Cotto will be in 2 of 07 best fights.

[Sug3]

Unless u are a diehard cotto fan there is no way in he** that cotto will win a ud,cotto likes to pressure and attack from round 1 and he's open to counter's all night as well.

Mosley's fast hands,foot movement and boxing skills will set the pace of the fight and if cotto even thinks about going low we all know mosley will do the same right back,because mosley is a fighter at heart with worldclass boxing skills.

Like i said i expect mosley to outclass cotto and knock him out between 6-10 rounds,cotto will throw less punches in this fight,because he will be afraid of mosley's great counter-punching skills,unless u live in a cave,diehard cotto fan or mosley hater then u all know mosley will dominate.

[Taffyy]

Shane for me..........Handspeed, power & good old fashioned experience will take it I think............Dont get me wrong though......A close & entertaining scrap.............Very good for boxing....

[Carlos Primera]

i love this fight is getting made i like both fighters and i'm kind of want shane to win (to add more accolades to a great career, and for being one of the few good guys in boxing). but i think cotto by decision. he's been on a roll destroying guys left and right, he's hungry and in his prime not to mention younger than shane. he also has shown that he can deal with slick guys with quick hands in judah and malignaggi, though shane should provide a tougher test than those 2 as he's more experienced than malignaggi being in more big fights and mentally stronger than zab.

[Relentless]

i just hope its a good close fight so both guys get props

[Caper]

First I’d like to say their have been numerous quality post on here and I’m happy to be a member.

This is the kind of fight that makes me a boxing fan and a supporter of both men who will step in the ring on Nov 10th. Both men have no fear and will pretty much die for a cause what else do you need, at the end of the fight Shane and Cotto should say….In the words of Maximus “Are you not entertained!”

This is how I see the fight going…Shane and Cotto will do little feeling out Shane will make first contact as Cotto like to feel out his opponent before waging all out war. Shane will move early pop shot Cotto and occasionally exchange in pockets. Cotto will counter effectively slowly timing Mosely and landing small combo’s that are high on the power/accuracy level and less on the volume level. Mosely looks smooth when he’s comfortable with his combos though he tends to not follow through with his punches they are meant to hurt but shane does not like to comment his entire body to his punches because it leave room for counters. Shane’s defense is average at best he does utilize much upper body movement when defending and this is why fighters with good jabs often land and land frequently on Shane. Shane depends more on his leg movement for defense. Cotto is not the quickest fighter in the division and most of us know this but his speed is underrated, Cotto relies more on instinct and logic when studying a fighter’s movements and habits in the ring this is why Cotto has been able to nullify fighters with faster hands. Cotto will allow shane to throw at will in moments in the fight just so he can work his way under Shanes punches to reach his body. Cotto will occasionally catch Shane in the face frustrating him and making Shane take out his frustrations by upping his punch output which will allow Cotto to counter with cleaner my effective and more importantly more efficient punches. The difference in this fight will be patience Cotto can be hit and can be hurt but he cannot be rattled he does not lose focus and he does surrender. Shane is almost impossible to hurt but he can be rattled he can be frustrated and he can lose focus. Shanes determination will always be their but his superior athleticism will be his greatest trait and his biggest mistake in this fight. Cotto will utilize Shanes physically gifts against him and slowly break him down. Cotto will punch through the target head to body, while shane will punch the target mostly head. Cotto can also be tested to the body but Shane will rarely be in position to land effective body shots because Cotto’s body is mostly vulnerable during times when both fighters are dancing in the ring and not in the pocket. Shane will concentrate on landing strong combo’s to the head while in the pocket and Cotto will mix his attack staying low with straight rights to distract his body attack. Both fighters will have their moments Shane will look good but in consistent while Cotto will slowly wear him down taking the late rounds and running away with a well fought SD or UD.

Peace Fellas.

[MrSmall]

Shane ain't getting KO'd.
However, this fight is huge.
A LOT of big matchups going on these days!

[Chileno606]

Easy prediction. Cotto by late TKO or UD. Mosley wont stand a chance.

[Chileno606]

i just hope its a good close fight so both guys get props

Best case scenario, indeed.

[DatBo215]

Its funny because it seems that the same things are said about cotto before every fight, recent fights at least, and he has destroyed most of his recent comp. He's slower, a basic fighter, easy to figure out, weak chin, and although he seems to have gained some more respect, many people still pick him to be Ko'd. I never understood how people could predict someone who has never lost a fight let alone only been knocked down once to be ko'd. I mean i agree that Mosley surely has the power and skill to do it, but it's kind of a biased prediction since cotto has never been ko'd. yea he's been hurt in fights, but what fighter hasn't. what he has shown which i don't think he has been given enough credit for is when he is hurt he never gets rattled and he always fights his way out of jams. he rarely holds and often fires back, backing opponents up. It should be said that am a huge cotto fan and i guess i see things through my Puerto Rican glasses a bit when it comes to Cotto, but I do feel he beats Mosley in a tough fight by SD. Cotto isn't the fastest, but he is relentless and never stops throwin punches, mosley is surely the more skilled and experienced fighter, but cotto has been in with more experienced and skilled fighters before and they haven't fazed him. The hand speed is in Mosley's corner, but the power is certainly in cottos and I can see this fight happening similarly to most of cotto's other fights. The man with the faster hands lands more in the early rounds but the power shots catch up late. I think this a great fight for both fighters and I hope that whoever the winner get his due respect and props and a shot at the winner of Hatton-Mayweather. Fights and fighters like these two who never back down from a challenge and always come to fight have brought back some excitment to boxing fans. Can't wait.

[Caper]

Its funny because it seems that the same things are said about cotto before every fight, recent fights at least, and he has destroyed most of his recent comp. He's slower, a basic fighter, easy to figure out, weak chin, and although he seems to have gained some more respect, many people still pick him to be Ko'd. I never understood how people could predict someone who has never lost a fight let alone only been knocked down once to be ko'd. I mean i agree that Mosley surely has the power and skill to do it, but it's kind of a biased prediction since cotto has never been ko'd. yea he's been hurt in fights, but what fighter hasn't. what he has shown which i don't think he has been given enough credit for is when he is hurt he never gets rattled and he always fights his way out of jams. he rarely holds and often fires back, backing opponents up. It should be said that am a huge cotto fan and i guess i see things through my Puerto Rican glasses a bit when it comes to Cotto, but I do feel he beats Mosley in a tough fight by SD. Cotto isn't the fastest, but he is relentless and never stops throwin punches, mosley is surely the more skilled and experienced fighter, but cotto has been in with more experienced and skilled fighters before and they haven't fazed him. The hand speed is in Mosley's corner, but the power is certainly in cottos and I can see this fight happening similarly to most of cotto's other fights. The man with the faster hands lands more in the early rounds but the power shots catch up late. I think this a great fight for both fighters and I hope that whoever the winner get his due respect and props and a shot at the winner of Hatton-Mayweather. Fights and fighters like these two who never back down from a challenge and always come to fight have brought back some excitment to boxing fans. Can't wait.

Good post bro. :good

[Axe]

What a truly great fight. Let's hope they sign the contracts. I see it as almost 50/50 with a definite edge to Shane, Mosley via SD here.

[Fedor Em]

I think Shane's handspeed will be the difference. Cotto will hurt Shane though and has a legit chance of stopping him. I would say either Cotto my mid round TKO or Shane weathers the storm and wins a close decision.

[HopkinsFan]

btw i think Cotto will take a few rounds to settle into the fight and start his bodywork due to Moselys handspeed and speed in general

[SUNOF7]

If Cotto struggled with Torres who was on short notice and was nearly KO'd- Shane has a great chance of KOING Cott0..SO WHAT HE STOPPED ZAB!!!, ZAB HAD NOT FOUGHT SIGNIFICANT ROUNDS AND yet Cotto said that Zab was his toughest fight??? Cotto will have hell on his hands with Shane Mosley

[LeedsLad]

Mosley has all the skills to beat Cotto via a pretty clear UD, he'll be 36 by the time of the fight and i do wonder whether he can with stand Cotto's pressure and relentlessness for 12 rounds. I still say Mosley via close UD/SD.

I see Mosley coming out fast and sweeping the early rounds, possibly getting a KD because Cotto is a very slow starter, but as the fight goes on i see Cotto coming back into it. By the end i see Cotto really taking a strangle hold on the fight, but it will be just too little too late and he'll lose a very close fight.

Is the winner fighting Hatton/Mayweather winner?

[Shev]

Shane won't hurt Cotto at 147 lbs, Cotto won't be deterred by Mosley's pawing jab. Cotto wins in impressive fashion.

[teke]

Shane won't hurt Cotto at 147 lbs, Cotto won't be deterred by Mosley's pawing jab. Cotto wins in impressive fashion.It aint the jab that Cotto is going to have to worry about. Mosley will pound right hands on Cotto all fight long.

[El Bombasto]

Shane is one of my all time favorite fighters, but I think Cotto is going to punish his body. He will have a difficult time with Shanes combos early, but to keep Cotto off you have to have a great jab, and more than anything Shane paws with his jab these days.

Cotto will catch him late.

Shane stops him early

[MooseKnuckle]

Let's not forget that Cotto's defense needs work, He always gets stunned pretty bad at some point of the fight and I just think that Shane has the experience and power to capitalize on that, something that Cotto's previous opponents have not been able to do...However if Cotto's defense is Much improved he can pull it off.

[Martini643]

this is a toss up. both fighters have the advantage. Cotto with his youth and power, and mosley with his experience and speed. If i had to bet on it , I would say Cotto

[WelshintheUS]

SSM is the truth and I can see it resembling Mosley v Rivera

[Druid]

Let's not forget that Cotto's defense needs work, He always gets stunned pretty bad at some point of the fight and I just think that Shane has the experience and power to capitalize on that, something that Cotto's previous opponents have not been able to do...However if Cotto's defense is Much improved he can pull it off.

This is said before many Cotto fights and he has been stunned, but has always come back to win. The questions are is Mosely way stronger than Cotto at 147 or is this weight below his best now and perfect for Cotto. Has Mosely slowed enough with age to make him more vulnerable to Cotto. Will Cotto's relentless attack be to much for Cotto. Age, speed, relentless attack and power - The usual elements withe a little more intrigue because of who these guys are.

Either way the sport is a winner, two of our best in every sense facing off. I will be nervous for both, delighted for the winner, sorry for the loser, I can't wait!

[Tito Time]

I am fu$kin hyped like a motha f$#ka!!!!

I am definitley heading to this bout... The Zab fight was crazy live... Party at the New York New York Hotel!

[acb]

Shane stops him early

:roll:

Who was the last opponent Shane stopped early?

[El Bombasto]

:roll:

Who was the last opponent Shane stopped early?

Mosley TKO6 Vargas 7/15/2006

[acb]

Mosley TKO6 Vargas 7/15/2006

You and I have different definitions of early.

And even if that was early by your account, thats a shot Vargas and a fighter you should not even compare to Cotto at this stage in his career.

[El Bombasto]

You and I have different definitions of early.

And even if that was early by your account, thats a shot Vargas and a fighter you should not even compare to Cotto at this stage in his career.

That was at 154, and I consider Vargas's chin to be sturdier than Cotto's. I'm a pretty big Cotto fan, as well as a fan of SSM, but IMO this is a bad styles match-up for Cotto.

[MagnificentMatt]

:nono

Somone lied to you. Fucked up how people are these days. :-(

Mosley being my favorite boxer...

Mosley can not punch as hard as Cotto, he could at 154 when he was focusing more on power than speed and lifting a ton.

But after the Collazo fight it seems hes back to his old school ways with his speed and timing.

But that is only one fight so who knows, maybe hes still lifting more than usual as he was at 154 (i doubt it). Bottom line, i think Mosley can punch as hard as Cotto if he wants to, he just likes using his speed.