Enzo Calzaghe gibberish of why his son wont fight Pavlik

[FLINT ISLAND]

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[brown bomber]

'We want the best available opposition.....'

[Beeston Brawler]

I don't know why, because Calzaghe would school Pavlik and win an easy UD.

[ron u.k.]

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[scurlaruntings]

:huhWhat on earth was he blabbering on about? I couldnt make out a word he was saying!! He sounds like the local village drunk!!:lol:

[brown bomber]

He's just basically saying they want the money.

[stuey]

I don't know why, because Calzaghe would school Pavlik and win an easy UD.


im not so sure, pavlik would give joe all manner of problems for me, and he does hit very hard. the jones fight is waaaay easier imo.

[stuey]

I don't know why, because Calzaghe would school Pavlik and win an easy UD.


im not so sure, pavlik would give joe all manner of problems for me, and he does hit very hard. the jones fight is waaaay easier imo.

[Beatboxer]

As a Joe Calzaghe fan I will tell you the reason, it's not rocket science:

Joe is doubting his physical capabilities. He knows he is on the slide and that the fight with Hopkins was far less easy than he had anticipated. He is going to test himself against Jones to find out whether it was the opponent (Hopkins with his style) or else his own decline that made it such a rough night.

If the answer is the latter, expect Joe to fight Pavlik. If it's the former, expect him to retire.

This is why he is keeping one of his belts at 168 on ice.

I will also say this: why can't people appreciate that the guy is getting on a bit, especially given his styles reliance on speed and reflex? We criticise so many fighters for going on well past their best and yet we are getting on Joe's case for having a bit of savvy?

Ridiculous really.

[onourway]

I will also say this: why can't people appreciate that the guy is getting on a bit, especially given his styles reliance on speed and reflex? We criticise so many fighters for going on well past their best and yet we are getting on Joe's case for having a bit of savvy?

Ridiculous really.

Joe's fault.

He spent the bulk of his career fighting bums.

If he'd moved his career on quicker, he wouldn't have to be still having legacy defining fights at a time when he's declining.

[cityofgod]

Calzaghe is certainly no Pacquiao when it's come to being a warrior and facing the stiffest challengers.

It took him 4 years to get his trinket title and then 11 years to face a fellow champion in his own weight class.

Money money money money... It's sickening.

Oscar Diaz got about $10,000 for his last fight and Joe gets $5m a fight for fighting a grandfather.

[TFFP]

Ignoring whatever Enzo just said, Pavlik and Loew just need to shut up and prove they are the best in their own division before taking on a great like Calzaghe. They havn't proven anything yet, other than that they can beat one guy who's credibility is very questionable, and at a stylistic advantage. Beat Abraham, or shut up.

[dan-b]

Ignoring whatever Enzo just said, Pavlik and Loew just need to shut up and prove they are the best in their own division before taking on a great like Calzaghe. They havn't proven anything yet, other than that they can beat one guy who's credibility is very questionable, and at a stylistic advantage. Beat Abraham, or shut up.

Do you think thats what Roy kept telling Joe back in the day?:lol:

[Beeston Brawler]

I recall Pavlik saying he wanted to clear out 160 - until he beats Abraham he won't have done it.

It seems now Calzaghe is thinking of packing in the rules have changed.

[TFFP]

Do you think thats what Roy kept telling Joe back in the day?:lol:
Roy wasn't telling Joe anything, they seemed to be content to pretend one and other were non-existent.

[dan-b]

Roy wasn't telling Joe anything, they seemed to be content to pretend one and other were non-existent.

I have a feeling Roy genuinely didn't know who he was. Joe used to talk about Roy regularly though.:huh

[TFFP]

I have a feeling Roy genuinely didn't know who he was. Joe used to talk about Roy regularly though.:huh
That's not what he said recently, he said he knew Joe was a very good fighter and he had "a belt to protect"

Make of that what you will :good

[dan-b]

That's not what he said recently, he said he knew Joe was a very good fighter and he had "a belt to protect"

Make of that what you will :good

I'd make of that Jones selling the fight. I'm sure when Roy was undisputed champ at 175 he wasn't overly concerned about Joe.

[TFFP]

I'd make of that Jones selling the fight. I'm sure when Roy was undisputed champ at 175 he wasn't overly concerned about Joe.
I'm pretty sure this was before the fight was announced. Either way, I can't really argue with somebody that has an insight into the sub-conscious of Roy Jones

[dan-b]

I'm pretty sure this was before the fight was announced. Either way, I can't really argue with somebody that has an insight into the sub-conscious of Roy Jones

Okay, well I never heard him talk about him before recently. Did you?

[TFFP]

Okay, well I never heard him talk about him before recently. Did you?
He had a belt to protect, why get people asking questions! :yep

Either way, Kelly Pavlik hasn't proven much to me yet. Beat Abraham and I'll give him credit.

[dan-b]

He had a belt to protect, why get people asking questions! :yep

Either way, Kelly Pavlik hasn't proven much to me yet. Beat Abraham and I'll give him credit.

Roy had three.:yep :yep :yep

Me neither, he's getting overly hyped like most American fighters these days. Hopkins will put an end to that.

[TFFP]

Roy had three.:yep :yep :yep

Me neither, he's getting overly hyped like most American fighters these days. Hopkins will put an end to that.
I'm on the Hopkins train of shame for this one. My avatar depends on it, and no doubt I'll get that prick Hatton on otherwise.

[scurlaruntings]

He had a belt to protect, why get people asking questions! :yep

Either way, Kelly Pavlik hasn't proven much to me yet. Beat Abraham and I'll give him credit.It wasnt that long ago that "the Ring" said he was a protected fighter. His had some decent wins namely Taylor twice and Edison Miranda. Both top contenders at 160. But as usual ESB`s memory is very short.

[Beatboxer]

I have a feeling Roy genuinely didn't know who he was. Joe used to talk about Roy regularly though.:huh

I think he'd have got to know him if chief rival Bernard Hopkins hadn't pulled out of an agreed fight at the final hour in 2002 :yep

[TFFP]

1. enzo aint this great trainer people keep saying, all he is is a good stragetist, and gets his fighters fit, skill wise he cnt teach his fighters shit.
2. thts bs, joe wudnt beat pavlik! pavlik will knock calslappy out!
3. they dont want pavlik because he is very high risk, and they will get the same amount of money for a lower risk, wayyyy over the hill roy jones jr.
Take your shit to the general forum.

[SleazeNation]

I think he'd have got to know him if chief rival Bernard Hopkins hadn't pulled out of an agreed fight at the final hour in 2002 :yep
The final hour :rofl

****** said Hopkins had agreed to a fight, 2 days later Bernard said the contract was a lot of bullsh*t. It was just more of ******'s crap - no final hour, not even close.

[Beatboxer]

The final hour :rofl

****** said Hopkins had agreed to a fight, 2 days later Bernard said the contract was a lot of bullsh*t. It was just more of ******'s crap - no final hour, not even close.

Ahhh the scourge of the British Forum...and heres me thinking my old buddy Sleazy had me on ignore :yep

Anyway, it was a lighthearted dig that does in fact have some basis in fact towards a poster I actually have time for...

So fuck off Sleazy :hi: Stick to the Hatton sackswinging getting into an argument with moi only leaves you looking more a tit than you already do :lol:

P.S. Love how you have changed the avatar following your boys loss last night. Some fan. ;)

[TFFP]

Ahhh the scourge of the British Forum...and heres me thinking my old buddy Sleazy had me on ignore :yep

Anyway, it was a lighthearted dig that does in fact have some basis in fact towards a poster I actually have time for...

So fuck off Sleazy :hi: Stick to the Hatton sackswinging getting into an argument with moi only leaves you looking more a tit than you already do :lol:

P.S. Love how you have changed the avatar following your boys loss last night. Some fan. ;)
:rofl

[dan-b]

I think he'd have got to know him if chief rival Bernard Hopkins hadn't pulled out of an agreed fight at the final hour in 2002 :yep

He'd heard about those cold dressing rooms mate, thats all.;)

[TFFP]

y should i u fool? u r from iceland,wat r u doing commenting on british boxing? is there any boxers even from iceland? im totally right in what i say. pavlik would ko calzaghe. enzo is an amateurish trainer. period.
:rofl

Go to the Africa forum, man.

[FLINT ISLAND]

very tough to KO Calzaghe - he got a good chin

Pavlik is a murderous puncher for a middleweight but Calzaghe has probaly faced as strong a punchers in Kelseer and Bryon Mitchell caught him with a murdrous hook

I'd love to see the fight but Enzo Calzaghe has given us a few mumbles of garbage of why it is not going to be

[TFFP]

whys that?... u chat so much shit. ur 1 of these calzaghe nutthuggers. u dont kno shit bout boxing, comment a sport u and ur fellow countrey men do kno something about, like...ermmm....ice skating? bob sleding? etc.
I'm sorry - did you just say something?

Try getting some English lessons you dopey sack of shit.

[Fat Joe]

Who's this new fella Alex Dyslexic #1?

[dan-b]

nah pavlik a bigger puncher than both of them, plus i dont think calzaghe would get up from a rangy right hand from pavlik. pavlik is like drago...in the sense that.."whatever he hits he destroys" lol.

calzaghe could win, he could out box him, but i think pavlik will be too hungry, and KO calzaghe, pavlik got heavy power.

Once you get through your remedial reading & writing classes I'll explain to you why Hopkins will give Pavlik his first defeat.

[dan-b]

theres a thing called text language, which saves time.

How much time does it really save on a keyboard though? I'd say the gains were negligible unless, of course, it's being used to mask a severe deficiency in spelling and grammar.

[TFFP]

See, that was better wasn't it?

This is how we type around here. We aren't little chavs that want to act bad ass, and it is not infact easier for us to read "txt spks". It actually takes more effort, so if you expect people to take any notice of your posts you might want to entice them into reading something that doesn't look like the incoherent rambling of a demented chimp.

[dan-b]

I'm starting to like the new guy.

[TFFP]

What the fuck happened to your Cotto-Margarito thread Daniel? :think

[Beatboxer]

He'd heard about those cold dressing rooms mate, thats all.;)

Of course. That'll be it. If only they had offered to provide him with some woolly socks or whatever :lol: :good

[dan-b]

What the fuck happened to your Cotto-Margarito thread Daniel? :think

Yeah I don't know. I PM'd achilles but no reply. I suspect one of the Hitlerite mods took excpetion to me/us criticising the general forum.

[TFFP]

Yeah I don't know. I PM'd achilles but no reply. I suspect one of the Hitlerite mods took excpetion to me/us criticising the general forum. I posted a considered response, and next thing some motherfucker deleted it :twisted:

Another reason why I should become mod. The elections start soon

[dan-b]

I posted a considered response, and next thing some motherfucker deleted it :twisted:

Another reason why I should become mod. The elections start soon

I know, we have one decent thread about the fight going in here & it gets deleted yet there are literally hundreds filled with crap on the GF.:roll:

[ishy]

I posted a considered response, and next thing some motherfucker deleted it :twisted:

Another reason why I should become mod. The elections start soon

When will we see your much talked about manifesto? Still waiting.

[scurlaruntings]

ohh another faggot who takes it up the ass from calslappy.

are u a welsh sheep shagger by any chance?WTF is this crap. Take that bullshit to the general forum. If you come in here come correct or dont come at all.

[TFFP]

u aint got my vote coolrunnings.

sorry, let me re-phrase that....you have not got my vote..jolly good fellow.
I don't care, because you dumb ass is shipping off to the African forum when I'm in power.

[SleazeNation]

Love how you have changed the avatar following your boys loss last night. Some fan. ;)
If he lost to a great fighter I'd still be a fan. Margarito is limited and beat the sh*t out of Cotto.

He don't deserve my avatar. So what?

[ishy]

Why the African forum? you a racist? i know living in iceland, its weird seeing a blackman walking the streets, but still, dont bring this racist shit, "take that shit to the general forum"


:patsch

[TFFP]

If he lost to a great fighter I'd still be a fan. Margarito is limited and beat the sh*t out of Cotto.

He don't deserve my avatar. So what?
So what about when Ricky gets his ass whooped by a former flyweight? How is that going to go down?

[SleazeNation]

So what about when Ricky gets his ass whooped by a former flyweight? How is that going to go down?
Hatton's never been good enough to deserve my avatar.

[TFFP]

by the way, as you like to criticise peoples comments, as you after all, are eastsideboxings answer to Albert Einstein, its your, not you, and its if, not when;)
I do look like Einstein/Newton and William fucking Shakespeare rolled into one compared to fucknuts such as yourself.

P.S. You was a typo, and if would infer that I may not come into power. I will, and I'm packing off you, Bailey_tune and Sleaze.

P.P.S. You don't need to use a comma all the fucking time.

[Beatboxer]

If he lost to a great fighter I'd still be a fan. Margarito is limited and beat the sh*t out of Cotto.

He don't deserve my avatar. So what?

:rofl

And you said I wasn't a true fan of boxing for wanting the chinless wonder Amir Khan to get sparked.

Sleazy, you never fail to amuse me.

[TFFP]

so you dont argue at the claim that you are a racist.
It's not really worth a response.

The only ones I dislike are fucking Polish. They come here, steal jobs, only talk their own stupid language and have big noses.

[scurlaruntings]

:rofl

And you said I wasn't a true fan of boxing for wanting the chinless wonder Amir Khan to get sparked.

Sleazy, you never fail to amuse me.The man is an idiot. I dont know why you bother to entertain him.

[FLINT ISLAND]

That Sleaze Nation

his avatar picture - a guy with a yellow hood pulled over his head

I could have sworn that guy was Bernrad Hopkins - I always assumed it was Bernard Hokpins

are people saying that guy in the yellow robe with the hood pulled over his head was actually miguel cotto or are you talking about another picture?

[Beatboxer]

The man is an idiot. I dont know why you bother to entertain him.

Biggest waste of 3 hours of my life waging war with him. Fucking encouraged him to post more as well :patsch

I've not bothered with him in ages though in fairness. I just had to put that avatar dig in against him though. As usual he tries to roll with the punches but ends up copping more punishment.

[icemax]

I will also say this: why can't people appreciate that the guy is getting on a bit, especially given his styles reliance on speed and reflex? We criticise so many fighters for going on well past their best and yet we are getting on Joe's case for having a bit of savvy?
Ridiculous really.

Not ridiculous at all, if he feels that he isn't up to the job then let him retire and put us all out of our misery. (BTW he isn't either quick enough or strong enough to defeat Pavlik IMO.)

[SleazeNation]

That Sleaze Nation

his avatar picture - a guy with a yellow hood pulled over his head

I could have sworn that guy was Bernrad Hopkins - I always assumed it was Bernard Hokpins

are people saying that guy in the yellow robe with the hood pulled over his head was actually miguel cotto or are you talking about another picture?
It sure was. Cotto.

[TFFP]

If I was Polish I'd learn the fucking language instead of mingling amongst the hordes of my own people that do exactly the same. After all, when I came here I learnt Icelandic out of respect, even though people talk English. The Polish don't even bother with English in some cases.

Perhaps then I wouldn't be so bitter about it. They still have big noses though.

[mike464]

Calzaghe doesn't want to lose that undefeated record that is so precious to him. If he didn't have that he'd have nothing.

[scurlaruntings]

Biggest waste of 3 hours of my life waging war with him. Fucking encouraged him to post more as well :patsch

I've not bothered with him in ages though in fairness. I just had to put that avatar dig in against him though. As usual he tries to roll with the punches but ends up copping more punishment.I added that clown to my ignore list a LONG time ago. May be you should do the same to save you wasting your life reading his rubbish.

[SleazeNation]

Biggest waste of 3 hours of my life waging war with him. Fucking encouraged him to post more as well :patsch

I've not bothered with him in ages though in fairness. I just had to put that avatar dig in against him though. As usual he tries to roll with the punches but ends up copping more punishment.
"Avatar dig" :rofl

I changed it because I wanted to. I'm a boxing fan, not a fighter fan.

[icemax]

Ignoring whatever Enzo just said, Pavlik and Loew just need to shut up and prove they are the best in their own division before taking on a great like Calzaghe. They havn't proven anything yet, other than that they can beat one guy who's credibility is very questionable, and at a stylistic advantage. Beat Abraham, or shut up.

And of course Manfredo, Bika, Ashira and Veit had proved that they were good enough to take on the God Calzaghe....have a word with yourself.

[TFFP]

"Avatar dig" :rofl

I changed it because I wanted to. I'm a boxing fan, not a fighter fan.
You were never a fan of Ricky were you?

[Beatboxer]

I added that clown to my ignore list a LONG time ago. May be you should do the same to save you wasting your life reading his rubbish.

Yes Scurla, I'm inclined to agree with the notion of ignoring him.

This thread really has gotten off topic.

[SleazeNation]

You were never a fan of Ricky were you?
I respect Hatton and Haye most in British boxing right now.

[TFFP]

you live in iceland, yet you shout at the polish for taking jobs in a country you dont live in? it doesnt affect u. They come here too. Loads of them.

[TFFP]

afraid that they are going to take your job?
They aren't smart enough to do my job.

Typically they'll clean up pig shit, throw fish in bags etc. The employers give them shitty wages by Icelandic standards, thats why there is so many of the fuckers.

[TFFP]

what do you do for a job? stacking shelves?
Programmer/coder.

You obviously steal hubcaps inbetween getting pocket money which you spend on cider and hang around outside McDonalds with your boyfriends. The picture of your persona is becoming all the more clearer, the "txt spk" just confirms it :good

[SleazeNation]

...Boxing. :bbb

[icemax]

you live in iceland, yet you shout at the polish for taking jobs in a country you dont live in? it doesnt affect u.
Not wanting to be impolite but why don't you just fuck off.

[SleazeNation]

What the fuck is Enzo talking about? :huh

[Fat Joe]

i dont care what nationality a person is

are u a welsh sheep shagger by any chance?

Racist hypocrite

[ishy]

oi yorkishire, why dont u go outside and tend to your farm? go milk some cows or some shit.
You've just joined the forum mate. Just calm down and keep to the boxing. No need to insult other posters.

[icemax]

oi yorkishire, why dont u go outside and tend to your farm? go milk some cows or some shit.
I can't milk a cow when i'm fucking it. Now, if you want to be helpful, just fuck off.

[JonOli]

What the fuck is Enzo talking about? :huh

It took a while to work out but for the first minute or so I think he's talking about Pavlik, and the Locket fight. Saying Joe, and Locket are "chalk and cheese" - that Locket has sub-viewed light reflectiveness - whatever that's supposed to mean. That Pavlik doesn't yet deserve a shot - out the time league (whatever that is)....

[9Ball]

u aint fuckin shit ol man. closest u been getting to pussy recently is watching a porno. real talk.

Alex you are showing yourself up. Gain a pair of balls and stop being an arsehole. Just talk about boxing or put Eminem on your mums stereo or something!


As far as the subject of this thread goes.....
Joes Dad is a total idiot. He is always talking bollocks. I have yet to see him give a decent interview.

[icemax]

As far as the subject of this thread goes.....
Joes Dad is a total idiot. He is always talking bollocks. I have yet to see him give a decent interview.

Enzo was on Bunceys boxing hour a couple of weeks ago and was effing and blinding before someone reminded him that he was live on air...the man is a complete knob.

[FLINT ISLAND]

'We want the best available opposition.....'

I made out through all the mumbling and insane shouting and face and hand gestures and odd phrases out of context that:

Kelly Pavlik and Carl Froch have got to "earn the right"

instead of trying to "jump the ship"

what the hell did

Tocker Pudwill
Mario Veit
Peter Manfredo Jnr
etc
etc
etc

do to earn their right Enzo

apart from being easy non competitve pay days of course

dont bull shit Enzo

Froch and Pavlik are both dangers just come out and admit it you dont want to fight them cos its not worth the risk and not bullshit us with gibbery

[DamonD]

Maybe he did admit it...it's hard to tell... ;)

[Beeston Brawler]

You are always guaranteed a quote from Enzo :deal

[icemax]

You are always guaranteed a quote from Enzo :deal
And sometimes its nearly coherent

[kurt2006]

I think enzo is deluded after getting the trainer of the year award the other year.

The Jones fight means FA and he knows it. Pavlik would be a much bigger fight.