Margarito vs The Great Welterweights of the past

[Bad_Intentions]

who do you pick to give margarito the most trouble?

[Smith]

Don't you mean ''who do you think margarito would trouble the most out of the ATG's''?

Because I could come up with a substantial list I favour over Tony.

[Bad_Intentions]

Don't you mean ''who do you think margarito would trouble the most out of the ATG's''?

Because I could come up with a substantial list I favour over Tony.
Please elaborate :good.

[Sweet Pea]

:lol: As if any WW could substantially trouble Margarito.

Hell, I'd pick Margo over any JMW and possibly MW as well. He does after all have a granite chin and throws a lot of punches.

[Bad_Intentions]

i pick ray robinson to stop margarito in the late rounds.

[Sweet Pea]

i pick ray robinson to stop margarito in the late rounds.That's absurd. Margarito has a granite chin and throws a lot of punches. He can't be stopped.

[SuzieQ49]

Margarito has a granite chin and throws a lot of punches. He can't be stopped.


Thats what they said about jake lamotta. ;)

[teeto]

That's absurd. Margarito has a granite chin and throws a lot of punches. He can't be stopped.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[sthomas]

Hearns, Leonard, SRR, I even favor Floyd as of today.

[Joe E]

:lol: As if any WW could substantially trouble Margarito.

Hell, I'd pick Margo over any JMW and possibly MW as well. He does after all have a granite chin and throws a lot of punches.Fritzie Zivic.

[Seamus]

Hearns, Leonard, SRR, I even favor Floyd as of today.

That's pretty high company you're pitting him against, which in itself is a compliment. He would have a definite chance against Hearns, not as much the other two. I would give him a chance also against Floyd, moreso if it were in the days of 15 rounds.

[Bad_Intentions]

That's absurd. Margarito has a granite chin and throws a lot of punches. He can't be stopped.

are you serious?
ray robinson stopped jake lamotta, and lamotta was known as having one of the best chins of that time.

and plus, robinson is 10x faster and stronger than margarito and can stop him in late rounds.

[teeto]

are you serious?
ray robinson stopped jake lamotta, and lamotta was known as having one of the best chins of that time.

and plus, robinson is 10x faster and stronger than margarito and can stop him in late rounds.
He's joking.

[Sweet Pea]

are you serious?
ray robinson stopped jake lamotta, and lamotta was known as having one of the best chins of that time.

and plus, robinson is 10x faster and stronger than margarito and can stop him in late rounds.LaMotta was feather-fisted, Margarito has decent power, decent reflexes, and a good chin. That's a recipe for disaster against any fighter regardless of weight class!

At least that's what they'll tell you in the General Forum.

[McGrain]

He'd be serious for anyone short of mobility.

[Bad_Intentions]

LaMotta was feather-fisted, Margarito has decent power, decent reflexes, and a good chin. That's a recipe for disaster against any fighter regardless of weight class!

At least that's what they'll tell you in the General Forum.robinson would stop margarito just like he did to randy turpin in the second fight, :hi:.

[teeto]

I dont wanna take credit for this, its actually a friend of mine, who posts here now and again (Bing), that pointed this out to me. It seems the guys that have done well against Marg are the guys who operate in the pocket well, and can counter there, not guys who run, they're simply hunted down and make Marg look like the avenging angel of death! Williams wasnt really movin all that much, he was using some decent angle-work and countering with good uppercuts etc. Also, matched Marg for workrate, but that was actually before Marg changed his workrate stylistically. Also, i havent seen all of Clottey-Marg, but from what ive seen of Clottey, he seems to have a good defence and can stand in front of an opponent while employing it and countering, and he was doing well against Margarito.

[teeto]

robinson would stop margarito just like he did to randy turpin in the second fight, :hi:.
He's joking.

[the cobra]

H2H, Leonard is probably the worst match for Margo. I don't see him doing anything in this fight except get hit. Somone like Napoles as well, who would be too slick (although Margo could cut up Mantequilla late). I got Robinson and Hearns to stop Margo somewhere around 10 rounds, probably sooner. It doesn't matter how good your chin is, Robinson took on a middleweight with the best chin of all-time and murdered him in the final rounds. He gets hit too much to stay in with someone who hits like that.

[Seamus]

Robinson took on a middleweight with the best chin of all-time and murdered him in the final rounds..


That was one fight when LaMotta was at the end of the line. Most of the fights were actually very close. A top flight Margarito would present some problems to SRR, though I would certainly pick the latter.

[radianttwilight]

Margarito could trouble alot of the past WW's with suspect chins.

Let's keep in mind that in pre-1970s boxing today's Margarito would almost certainly be fighting in the middleweight division.

[ironchamp]

Margarito could trouble alot of the past WW's with suspect chins.

Let's keep in mind that in pre-1970s boxing today's Margarito would almost certainly be fighting in the middleweight division.

Well the weight limits never changed so he'd still be a welter.

Margarito would be a tall order for any WW in the past present or future. His size, durability, high workrate and relentless pressure would make him competitive against many ATGs.

[radianttwilight]

Well the weight limits never changed so he'd still be a welter.

Margarito would be a tall order for any WW in the past present or future. His size, durability, high workrate and relentless pressure would make him competitive against many ATGs.

I was referring to the fact that Margarito, like many modern-day fighters, take advantage of modern weigh-ins to fight a division or two below the one they would've fought in if there were same-day weigh-ins.

Essentially the question becomes "How would a great welterweight of the past handle a JMW/MW with durability, high workrate, and relentless pressure"?