So Wo is going to Hatton Or Calzaghe fights in November?

[alba]

with them being scheduelded possibly 3 weeks apart i cant see loads going to both.Out of the 2 of them i think calzaghe will be the bigger loser of the in the sense of crowds

Im planning on going over for the calzaghe fight

[dan-b]

Yup, the football lot will be going to watch Hatton. They probably don't know who Jones is.

[Beeston Brawler]

I think they have differing fans - not many would go to both anyway

I think the Hatton event will be better because the undercard is likely to be stronger generally, suppose people will look at the cards and make a choice.

[Anthony Farnell]

I'm not really interested in either :bart

[Beeston Brawler]

Both will win pretty handily anyway

Stick your cash in your ISA and wait while next year for some proper fights, hopefully

[TFFP]

I doubt it will make any difference to the respective crowds, they would probably be different demographics.

i.e. Hattons are a bunch of dart chucking lunatics.

[Beeston Brawler]

Let it go

[dan-b]

Let it go

Just ignore him. You can't blame him for being bitter when he's paying extortionate money for beer & the missus aint putting out.

[TFFP]

He's just butthurt because I picked Cotto to beat Hatton at any weight - as unreasonable as it is.

The price of beer is proportionate to wages so I don't care + the misses is a stunner :hi:

[dan-b]

He's just butthurt because I picked Cotto to beat Hatton at any weight - as unreasonable as it is.

The price of beer is proportionate to wages so I don't care + the misses is a stunner :hi:

So what you got the hump about then bud? You've been like it for two days now.

[Beeston Brawler]

Ok.........

I have issue with your lack of objectiveness in relation to Hatton, on most other subjects you are fairly accurate - but next we will be hearing that Peter Buckley would scrape a SD from Ricky!

If you don't like someone fair enough, but why bother wasting your time talking about them?

[GazOC]

He's just butthurt because I picked Cotto to beat Hatton at any weight - as unreasonable as it it is

Nah, hes probably just getting tired of your childish sniping and name calling. I know I am.

[TFFP]

I don't know why I'm mad - but its got really hot :twisted:

I've never let any emotions get in the way of my picks, Hatton or otherwise. If that was the case I'd pick Malignaggi to tap his ass, but I know it ain't gonna happen no way no how.

Pacquiao will beat him though, mark my words.

[TFFP]

Nah, hes probably just getting tired of your childish sniping and name calling. I know I am.
Booohoo. :|

[Beeston Brawler]

I see your point regarding Pacquiao, but don't really agree.

I see it being one hell of a war, with Hatton wearing Pac down and stopping him, probably whilst behind on the scorecards.

Diaz was a handpicked opponent, hence the outclassing and KO - but Hatton is far from handpicked. The leading 140lb'er with a style that no other 140lb'er has really got to grips with before - and he has never looked like losing, if brutally honest.

If Pac beats a top 3 lightweight and shows good power - I may start to come round, but beating the likes of Diaz doesn't convince me.

[TFFP]

I don't blame you - I've only just recently come round to Pacquiao beating Hatton at 140. It looked ridiculous for a while, but Pacquiao keeps putting on the weight and retaining his speed without looking at all flabby, regardless of the opponent.

Speed kills. He'll be in and out like a little buzsaw, and although Hatton is fast for a 140lb fighter he'll look very cumbersome. Pacquiao just doesn't need to be getting involved in the clinches and worn down, and his speed and the southpaw stance that always caused Ricky problems will mash his face up. Cuts will be an issue with Pacquiao's punching style.

[GazOC]

Booohoo. :|

Very mature (again).

I'm not upset with you, just bored.

[alba]

so not many planning on going to the calzaghe fight?

[FLINT ISLAND]

I hope Calzaghe fights Roy Jones in cardiff

might go up then - only a 30 or 40 minute drive from Swansea to Cardiff

have a few pints in the Cardiff bars and then walk up to the arena to see the fight

pherhaps local fighter Enzo Maccarenelli will also be on the undercard

Colin Jones be up there too - doing commentary work for Radio Wales - he lives by me - 200 metres down the road

[PrideOfWales]

I hope Calzaghe fights Roy Jones in cardiff

might go up then - only a 30 or 40 minute drive from Swansea to Cardiff

have a few pints in the Cardiff bars and then walk up to the arena to see the fight

pherhaps local fighter Enzo Maccarenelli will also be on the undercard

Colin Jones be up there too - doing commentary work for Radio Wales - he lives by me - 200 metres down the road

Yes we know!

Didn't he train in your back garden as well?

[FLINT ISLAND]

Yes we know!

Didn't he train in your back garden as well?

not in my back garden - the gym behind my back garden

I will post a picture soon of a photo shot from behind my back garden that captures the back of the gym

Jones still there to this day - training local young lads

I been speaking to a guy on YOUTUBE who use to train at the gym in the 80's and he said he gonna post a video for me soon on YOUTUBE of them training in the gym and it shows Colin Jones training behind my back garden - I will post this video on this site too as soon as he puts the video on YOUTUBE

[TFFP]

Yes we know!

Didn't he train in your back garden as well?
Damn, you just got there before me.

[Beeston Brawler]

I almost forgot Manny is a southpaw :patsch

I would back a flyweight southpaw to give Hatton a headache - but then again Manny isn't exactly slick, Ricky won't have to go looking I wouldn't imagine.

[cityofgod]

Hatton would hurt Manny to the body and stop him.

He would wrestle him around the ring until he had him where he wanted him.

Pac isn't that good in my eyes and lost against Marquez and beat a guy in Diaz, who himself had lost to Morales earlier.

Im a Pac fan, but i dont think he's god like some.

[Beeston Brawler]

A Morales who was shot to bits :deal

I haven't seen the fight - but have heard enough reports.

Pac is a puncher - Hatton hasn't really been troubled by punchers that much, though Pac isn't as limited as the punchers he has faced thus far.

I see a Hatton stoppage - Pac will give Ricky a few headaches but won't have faced anyone with as much power and will suffer.

[elle]

I think the Hatton event will be better because the undercard is likely to be stronger generally, suppose people will look at the cards and make a choice.


If the Limond v Salita fight stays on the Calzaghe undercard I think its a real bonus for anyone going to see that bill.

[Benjiabc]

I don't know why I'm mad - but its got really hot :twisted:

I've never let any emotions get in the way of my picks, Hatton or otherwise. If that was the case I'd pick Malignaggi to tap his ass, but I know it ain't gonna happen no way no how.

Pacquiao will beat him though, mark my words.


interesting .... hmmmmmmmmm

[TFFP]

interesting .... hmmmmmmmmm
This is one of those ones I'm getting a gut feeling on to bet some serious cash. I usually make conservative bets, but I have a feeling this is the one, and I'll get even money.

Last time was Casa-Katsidis, which was a bit of a rollercoaster but we got there eventually :yep

[toffeejack]

Hatton will get the most people going over there because of the lager louts and the fact that England has a much bigger population than Wales.

But I can guarantee you this. There will be more genuine fans supporting Calzaghe than there will be Hatton.

Thats not knocking Hatton in any way it's just that half of the fans he attracts probably don't know much about boxing and some probably don't even care if he wins they will just be out for a good time. I wonder how many times we will hear that horrid "Hatton Wonderland" song whether he's winning or getting his face smashed in?

And to answer the original post I will be going along with my mates to the Calzaghe fight. I'm just glad I didn't book the flights before the postponment!

[dan-b]

This is one of those ones I'm getting a gut feeling on to bet some serious cash. I usually make conservative bets, but I have a feeling this is the one, and I'll get even money.

Last time was Casa-Katsidis, which was a bit of a rollercoaster but we got there eventually :yep

Lets just hope Pac doesn't end up fighting DLH in a pathetic sideshow instead.:roll:

[kurt2006]

I think if the JC - RJJ fight had been made even 5/6 years ago it would have been worth bothering about. As it is I will be happy watching it free on some foreign satellite channel.

[slapsSOgood]

Hatton will get the most people going over there because of the lager louts and the fact that England has a much bigger population than Wales.

But I can guarantee you this. There will be more genuine fans supporting Calzaghe than there will be Hatton.

Thats not knocking Hatton in any way it's just that half of the fans he attracts probably don't know much about boxing and some probably don't even care if he wins they will just be out for a good time. I wonder how many times we will hear that horrid "Hatton Wonderland" song whether he's winning or getting his face smashed in?


So you're saying that people can't enjoy boxing unless they invest hours studying old matches, and pay a fortune attending matches abroad? Fuck that. It's reasoning like that which leaves boxing in the doldrums when it comes to world sport. Get off your high horse, it's a simple fucking fight after all!

[alba]

So you're saying that people can't enjoy boxing unless they invest hours studying old matches, and pay a fortune attending matches abroad? Fuck that. It's reasoning like that which leaves boxing in the doldrums when it comes to world sport. Get off your high horse, it's a simple fucking fight after all!

it nink what he is getting on about ...ant tell me if iam wrong ...is that there was alot of complaints from some hatton dfans that he seems to have attracted a drunk football elemet to his fights.folk who only have the mentality to sing one song.

i think that is rubbis but ihave heard that complaint before,and that song does my nut in (when ihear iot on the tv)

[Doyley10]

At the risk of looking like I'm whoring myself on here, feel free to PM me if you need travel sorting out. I can't do fight tickets but can promise not to rip you off for flights and hotels..... unless your screen name is Strike....

[GazOC]

I fucking hate the 'elitism' of some boxing fans who look down their noses at casual fans. As long as noone is causing any harm let them have their fun, its not the opera!

Or do we want to go back to the private clubs, diner jackets and cigar smoke?

[alba]

At the risk of looking like I'm whoring myself on here, feel free to PM me if you need travel sorting out. I can't do fight tickets but can promise not to rip you off for flights and hotels..... unless your screen name is Strike....

you a travel agent ?

i might just do that ...

[JonOli]

I too hate this "real boxing fans" term. I think it's bogos. If you do go with the term (one I never use, and think it's a load of rubbish), a "real boxing fan", wouldn't been seen within a million miles of Jones/Calzaghe fight as it's a totally false match up, and a fight purely set up to make money. It's boxing credentials are negligible.

The people going must be going as fans of Joe, for the spectacle, for the great occasion (I'd love to go NY should be great) - and for good times. Good luck to them there's nothing wrong with that; but don't ridicule others, and try and make out that this fight is some sort of boxing purists dream. That you are some sort of elite fan for going to it - whilst turning your nose up at other sets of fans who are going to boxing matches for the very same reasons as you.

Anyway, to all those going to both fights - have a great time.

[Doyley10]

you a travel agent ?

i might just do that ...

Yep. A US specialist no less:D Stuey can vouch for me as I got him a fucking steal for Hatton v PBF.....that was pre credit crunch fuel charges though....:bart

Ordinarily, you don't have to stump up the whole wedge straight away depending on the flight contract... let me know....

[FLINT ISLAND]

I too hate this "real boxing fans" term. I think it's bogos. If you do go with the term (one I never use, and think it's a load of rubbish), a "real boxing fan", wouldn't been seen within a million miles of Jones/Calzaghe fight as it's a totally false match up, and a fight purely set up to make money. It's boxing credentials are negligible.

The people going must be going as fans of Joe, for the spectacle, for the great occasion (I'd love to go NY should be great) - and for good times. Good luck to them there's nothing wrong with that; but don't ridicule others, and try and make out that this fight is some sort of boxing purists dream. That you are some sort of elite fan for going to it - whilst turning your nose up at other sets of fans who are going to boxing matches for the very same reasons as you.

Anyway, to all those going to both fights - have a great time.

Its a decent point made.

Calzaghe-Jones is more of a event than a hardcore purist "fight"

[alba]

Yep. A US specialist no less:D Stuey can vouch for me as I got him a fucking steal for Hatton v PBF.....that was pre credit crunch fuel charges though....:bart

Ordinarily, you don't have to stump up the whole wedge straight away depending on the flight contract... let me know....

ill be ar that in mind .

[GazOC]

IMHO its a little rich to try and claim the moral high ground for Calzaghe-Jones, at least Hatton-Pauli is a fight between the two best active boxers at 140.

[alba]

IMHO its a little rich to try and claim the moral high ground for Calzaghe-Jones, at least Hatton-Pauli is a fight between the two best active boxers at 140.

Who is tryingto claim the moral high ground.

also i understand your point in the sense of hattons fight is two guys who are at the top/ish ofthere game.but i think the ight between jones (while it dosent look good on paper) in a quirky way will be a better fight on the night.

[GazOC]

Who is tryingto claim the moral high ground.



ToffeeJack??

"But I can guarantee you this. There will be more genuine fans supporting Calzaghe than there will be Hatton.

Thats not knocking Hatton in any way it's just that half of the fans he attracts probably don't know much about boxing and some probably don't even care if he wins they will just be out for a good time.@

[GazOC]

I havn't got a problem with either fight but lets not try to make out all the British boxing cognizanti will at the JC fight...;O)

[TFFP]

Roy Jones is a better fighter than Paulie Malignaggi even when he is 99.9% shot. Don't give us bullshit.

Neither are boosting any legacies.

[FLINT ISLAND]

ToffeeJack??

"But I can guarantee you this. There will be more genuine fans supporting Calzaghe than there will be Hatton.

Thats not knocking Hatton in any way it's just that half of the fans he attracts probably don't know much about boxing and some probably don't even care if he wins they will just be out for a good time.@

Why not knock Hatton


lets not excuse him

Hatton is a CUNT

[FLINT ISLAND]

all I know is

I'm going to watch Calzaghe V Jones - I would even go up to Cardiff for the "event" - not America though - I'd rather stay in the house.

Hatton - Paulie though dont mean shit to me - saying that though I hope feather fisted Paulie knocks Hatton out.

Hatton fans are like sheep,

but lets be fair

Calzaghe ans or any big name fighter fans are always going to have their element of "sheep"

theres way more casual fans out to enjoy a good night than hardcore boxing fans

theres nothing rong with that - you cant force people to be a hardcore boxing fan - some young women just go for a night out - they hardly into boxing really

Hatton sells out Manchester Nynex arena even if he was fighting a total bum - it's just popularity - they going for Hatton event not the fight

[GazOC]

Why not knock Hatton


lets not excuse him

Hatton is a CUNT
They should get you in the studio on Bunces Boxing Hour with insights like that, better than that Spencer Oliver.

[warrior85]

Cant See Calzaghe Fighting In November,i Think December/january.

[GazOC]

Yep, the fight still isn't confirmed yet.

[TFFP]

Why not knock Hatton


lets not excuse him

Hatton is a CUNT
:think

















:yep

[alba]

Yep, the fight still isn't confirmed yet.

wel its about to be.it must be close

[cityofgod]

Whats all this talk about 'sheep and Calzaghe' - yeah we know he is a fookin sheep shagger.

To suggest that a more 'decent crowd of genuine boxing fans' will attend the calzaghe fight is hilarious.

Calzaghe has zero charisma and even less of a fan base. And it goes without saying that everyone who goes to that sham of a fight is having the piss taken out of them. Even Joe said himself that Jones was shot numerous times.

I remember a couple of dweebs at work saying how they had a lovely time at the Calzaghe v Manfredo fight... their first ever boxing match ! and how Joe was amazing to beat such a hard case like Peter Manfredo. I nearly choked on my bacon sarnie.

At the kessler fight it was the dullest atmosphere ive ever witnessed.

No i disagree. Sure there may be a few footy types in Vegas for Ricky, but the lion's share of them are legit fight fans.

Ricky might stop most shots with his face nowadays, but you cant say his style is less exciting than some slapping and jiggling his arse like a hyper active attention-deficit Billy no mates.

[JonOli]

Jones 39th birthday work out...

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[JonOli]

The Hatton/Malignaggi bout has just been confirmed.

"I am looking forward to returning to America and challenging Malignaggi for his title," said Hatton, "

"Oscar De La Hoya has hailed the bout as a potentially compelling contrast of styles. "Hatton is an aggressive puncher who swarms his opponents from start to finish, while Malignaggi is one of the purest boxers in the game today," said De La Hoya. "As a fan, I am excited to see if Hatton can lure Malignaggi into a brawl or if Malignaggi can dictate the tempo and make the fight his. No matter what happens, I think when their styles collide, it's going to make for great action and great drama."



OK, Oscar, not hyping the fight perchance. :roll: :D

[JonOli]

"Gavin, who pulled out of the Olympics after failing to make the weight, has been offered a deal by Oscar de la Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions company to be on the undercard of Ricky Hatton's world title bout with Paulie Malignaggi."

[toffeejack]

Booking my tickets on Tuesday for the Calzaghe/Jones fight.

Madison Square Gardens is the home of boxing I can't wait for it.

[alba]

Booking my tickets on Tuesday for the Calzaghe/Jones fight.

Madison Square Gardens is the home of boxing I can't wait for it.

us that when they go on sale mate ?

[toffeejack]

us that when they go on sale mate ?

I believe so yes.

[dougingb]

Tickets actually went on sale today.

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[alba]

Tickets actually went on sale today.

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thats right mate i got thte ickets yesterday!:D :D

[dougingb]

So did I !! :)

[Broxi]

I'm hoping to head over to Calzaghe vs Jones too, where did you guys get your tickets and how much were they if you don't mind me asking?

Whatever will be said about the match-up, this is possibly the last fight from Joe and RJJ (Who happens to be my favourite ever fighter) so I'm gonna do what I can to see the fight.

[alba]

I'm hoping to head over to Calzaghe vs Jones too, where did you guys get your tickets and how much were they if you don't mind me asking?

Whatever will be said about the match-up, this is possibly the last fight from Joe and RJJ (Who happens to be my favourite ever fighter) so I'm gonna do what I can to see the fight.

mate go to calzaghedotcodotuk

that is where all the details are

[dougingb]

I'm hoping to head over to Calzaghe vs Jones too, where did you guys get your tickets and how much were they if you don't mind me asking?

Whatever will be said about the match-up, this is possibly the last fight from Joe and RJJ (Who happens to be my favourite ever fighter) so I'm gonna do what I can to see the fight.

I got my ticket through [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) I signed up with [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) to be alerted as to when the tickets went on sale. Last Thursday night I got a email from MSG saying that there was going to be a pre-sale starting at 10am EST on Friday 8/15. So I got my ticket! $250. MSG is a great place to see a fight though, so I don't think there are really any bad seats in the house!

[Broxi]

I got my ticket through [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) I signed up with [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) to be alerted as to when the tickets went on sale. Last Thursday night I got a email from MSG saying that there was going to be a pre-sale starting at 10am EST on Friday 8/15. So I got my ticket! $250. MSG is a great place to see a fight though, so I don't think there are really any bad seats in the house!

Thanks for all the info mate, I did the same thing and got the deed done today when they went on sale ... I got two $500 block 200 tickets ... whooo.

Just get my flights and accom sorted out and that's me set. :happy

[alba]

Thanks for all the info mate, I did the same thing and got the deed done today when they went on sale ... I got two $500 block 200 tickets ... whooo.

Just get my flights and accom sorted out and that's me set. :happy

ow mch was your flights and accom ?

[Broxi]

ow mch was your flights and accom ?

Not got anything sorted yet, I know a nice cheap hotel in New Jersey, I may opt for that as it's a 15 minute bus-trip from the front door into the port authority in Manhattan.

Doyley might be able to sort out some flights, either that or I'll look for a connecting flight from Ireland, that can sometimes be cheaper than a direct flight from Glasgow.

You got anything sorted yourself yet?

[GazOC]

Try and get into the Pennsylvania Hotel, its nothing fancy but its clean, cheap (or was in 1995) and overlooks MSG.

[alba]

Not got anything sorted yet, I know a nice cheap hotel in New Jersey, I may opt for that as it's a 15 minute bus-trip from the front door into the port authority in Manhattan.

Doyley might be able to sort out some flights, either that or I'll look for a connecting flight from Ireland, that can sometimes be cheaper than a direct flight from Glasgow.

You got anything sorted yourself yet?

ivgot flights fae edinburgh and staying in the pennsylvania.got it for £680 each for 4 nights,but the flight is direct.

[GazOC]

Its a nice place Reilly, a couple of bars on the ground floor, literally a 2 minute walk to the Garden and a great Irish bar next door (Barney Rocks IIRC).

[alba]

Its a nice place Reilly, a couple of bars on the ground floor, literally a 2 minute walk to the Garden and a great Irish bar next door (Barney Rocks IIRC).

sounds ok to me .

[Broxi]

ivgot flights fae edinburgh and staying in the pennsylvania.got it for £680 each for 4 nights,but the flight is direct.

I had a look a look at the Pennsylvania just there, it's a bit too expensive for me, it's almost double the price of the place in NJ. If I could find somewhere comparable in price in Manhattan, I'd go for it for the handiness of the thing.

I can get 7 nights at the Meadowlands for about £480 all in, the bus trip in to town's only $5-10 from what I remember, can be a bit of a c##t gettin a taxi back at night but other than that it's fine.

[GazOC]

I don't think you can get a better deal in downtown Manhattan, everything else I looked at was either out of town or really expensive. I know New Jersey etc is a bit cheaper but we didn't fancy having to get a taxi every day when you are only there for 3 or 4 days? We just wanted to be where everything is happening and soak in the big fight atmosphere.

[dougingb]

Try and get into the Pennsylvania Hotel, its nothing fancy but its clean, cheap (or was in 1995) and overlooks MSG.

Can't say that I can recommend the Pennsylvania. I stayed there in 2004 (I think that was the year) when I went to the Felix Trinidad/Ricardo Mayorga fight.

There was blood on the walls of my room.........

And holes in the rug and mold in the tub.

This hotel doesn't look too bad, its right by MSG and I think it is around the same price as the Pennsylvania:

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[dougingb]

This might be another option. MSG sits right on top of Penn Station. You could take the train to and from this hotel:

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[Broxi]

I don't think you can get a better deal in downtown Manhattan, everything else I looked at was either out of town or really expensive. I know New Jersey etc is a bit cheaper but we didn't fancy having to get a taxi every day when you are only there for 3 or 4 days? We just wanted to be where everything is happening and soak in the big fight atmosphere.

I'm going for a 7 day shot though and taking in the fight when I'm there, as opposed to going over for the fight and coming home.

It's almost £600 more to stay in Manhattan, for that I'm willing to take a 15min bus ride from the front door, it's no biggie really, NYC public transport is pretty good and you can get a taxi out to the hotel at night for about $70 (you need to barter sometimes) and that's including toll for the tunnel.

[Broxi]

This might be another option. MSG sits right on top of Penn Station. You could take the train to and from this hotel:

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Still quite expensive and I've taken a train from Newark Airport to Penn Station before and it was quite a long trip if I remember.

If you wan't, I'll PM you the details of the hotel I'm looking at booking up for mate.

[Lard]

Got tickets yesterday, any news on the undercard?

Managed to get a good deal on flights with Continental from Heathrow to Newark if anyone is looking, £597 for two flights.

[dougingb]

Still quite expensive and I've taken a train from Newark Airport to Penn Station before and it was quite a long trip if I remember.

If you wan't, I'll PM you the details of the hotel I'm looking at booking up for mate.

Sure, go ahead and PM me! I have my hotel picked out already. I'm treating myself! :thumbsup

[GazOC]

I'm going for a 7 day shot though and taking in the fight when I'm there, as opposed to going over for the fight and coming home.

It's almost £600 more to stay in Manhattan, for that I'm willing to take a 15min bus ride from the front door, it's no biggie really, NYC public transport is pretty good and you can get a taxi out to the hotel at night for about $70 (you need to barter sometimes) and that's including toll for the tunnel.

Nice one mate, I wasn't knocking your choice.....just explaining the way we looked at it, the difference was much less than 600 quid when I went over though.:good

[JonOli]

It wont be long till these fights come around.