View Full Version : Sun article about Ricky Hattons next fight - Discusting if true
robpalmer135
07-26-2007, 07:30 AM
there was a rather disturding article in The Sun this morning about Ricky Hatton next fight. saying it would be in England is good, but the 3 opponents he has to choose from our
David Diaz 32 - 1 - 1 (ONLY 17 K.O)
He is a world champ ok, BUT AT LIGHTWEIGHT, and the loest ranked off the 4. the sort of fight Amir Khan should be thinking about not Hatton. ranked 11 by boxrec
also due to fight Erik Morales
Ricardo Torres 31 - 1 - 0 (27 K.O)
lost to Miguel Cotto in 7 rounds, was considerd the weakest of the 4 Light Welter champs (until Rees won on saturday) no big wins on his record, ranked 16 by Boxrec. lowest rated champ by the ring at light welter.
Joel Casamayor
a bit more like it but still A LIGHTWEIGHT. only big win is agaisnt corrales and lost to Catillo who Hatton beat in 4 rounds.
Paul Spadafora 46 - 0 - 1 (ONLY 16 K.Os!!!!!!!!)
no big names on his record, has nly fought 12 rounds 9 times, ranked 47 at light welter by Boxrec. NOT RANKED IN THE TOP 15 BY THE WBA, WBC, WBO or IBF. NOT IN THE RING TOP 10.
also said he wants 50-50 with Mayweather which is a joke, he could get paid 30-70 and would still be hattons biggest pay day. Maywether is the P4P Champion for gods sake.
this could be a case of bad reporting but the reason i am writing this article is because it realkly would not suprise me. Hatton talks about fighting Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley, De la Hoya, but i bet you he fights one of these 4 guys. absolutley ridiclious. if he fights one of those 4 will proove he just chose Tyszu and Castillo at the end of thier careers and really wants no part in the big fight, just wants to mug people of as most of his fans follow Hatton and not boxing.
here is a list of better fights that could be made
Welterweight:
Floyd Mayeather
Miguel Cotto
Oscar De La Hoya
Shane Mosley
Paul Williams
Antonio Margorito
Kermit Cintron
Zab Judah
Luis Collazo II
Light Welterweight:
Junior Witter
Paulie Malignaggi
Gavin Rees (still bigger than those 4 fights)
Demitrius Hopkins
Vivian Harris
thats 14 fights that are better. if hatton takes one of those 4 (except maybe maybe maybe Casamayor) (and thats if the others want $20million dollers to fight in there home town) then he is an absolute bum
Betty Swollocks
07-26-2007, 07:34 AM
mate, what do you expect? have you been following Ricky's career?
you really think he's gonna fight an elite fighter in or ner his prime? :huh
robpalmer135
07-26-2007, 07:36 AM
i no but when your forked out £60 (al be it between 4 mates) for his last 4 fights, its gonna piss you off, i reckon i would go a few rounds with this spadfora guy!!!
David UK
07-26-2007, 07:59 AM
I wouldn't pay much attention to anything that's written in that comic
BoppaZoo
07-26-2007, 08:09 AM
I wouldn't pay much attention to anything that's written in that comiceither would considering Torres and Diaz already have fights lined up.
Diaz next week will fight Morales.
and Torres vs Kendall Holt in September. which i think those two fighters would find it hard to fight Hatton by say November.
The Sun must have some pretty intelligent people working down there. oh yeah Ricardo the Sun thinks you can beat Holt then fight Hatton in say 2 months.
IDIOTS comes to mind Dave.
NOrth
07-26-2007, 08:11 AM
there was a rather disturding article in The Sun this morning about Ricky Hatton next fight. saying it would be in England is good, but the 3 opponents he has to choose from our
David Diaz 32 - 1 - 1 (ONLY 17 K.O)
He is a world champ ok, BUT AT LIGHTWEIGHT, and the loest ranked off the 4. the sort of fight Amir Khan should be thinking about not Hatton. ranked 11 by boxrec
also due to fight Erik Morales
Ricardo Torres 31 - 1 - 0 (27 K.O)
lost to Miguel Cotto in 7 rounds, was considerd the weakest of the 4 Light Welter champs (until Rees won on saturday) no big wins on his record, ranked 16 by Boxrec. lowest rated champ by the ring at light welter.
Joel Casamayor
a bit more like it but still A LIGHTWEIGHT. only big win is agaisnt corrales and lost to Catillo who Hatton beat in 4 rounds.
Paul Spadafora 46 - 0 - 1 (ONLY 16 K.Os!!!!!!!!)
no big names on his record, has nly fought 12 rounds 9 times, ranked 47 at light welter by Boxrec. NOT RANKED IN THE TOP 15 BY THE WBA, WBC, WBO or IBF. NOT IN THE RING TOP 10.
also said he wants 50-50 with Mayweather which is a joke, he could get paid 30-70 and would still be hattons biggest pay day. Maywether is the P4P Champion for gods sake.
this could be a case of bad reporting but the reason i am writing this article is because it realkly would not suprise me. Hatton talks about fighting Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley, De la Hoya, but i bet you he fights one of these 4 guys. absolutley ridiclious. if he fights one of those 4 will proove he just chose Tyszu and Castillo at the end of thier careers and really wants no part in the big fight, just wants to mug people of as most of his fans follow Hatton and not boxing.
here is a list of better fights that could be made
Welterweight:
Floyd Mayeather
Miguel Cotto
Oscar De La Hoya
Shane Mosley
Paul Williams
Antonio Margorito
Kermit Cintron
Zab Judah
Luis Collazo II
Light Welterweight:
Junior Witter
Paulie Malignaggi
Gavin Rees (still bigger than those 4 fights)
Demitrius Hopkins
Vivian Harris
thats 14 fights that are better. if hatton takes one of those 4 (except maybe maybe maybe Casamayor) (and thats if the others want $20million dollers to fight in there home town) then he is an absolute bum
Your having a laugh mate. Rees a bigger / better opponent than Torres, Diaz or Cassamayor ?
Forget Welters, hatton is a light welter and ownt be moving up. So scratch them.
Lets go through your light welters.
Witter & Harris are fighting each other, so they're no go's.
Hopkins was the luckiest man alive to get the descision against Stevie forbes, he got a gift. nothing special, never beaten anyone.
Rees - very very poor opponent who ricky would beat inside 2 or 3 rounds. Very very poor champion who will be ebat by the first decent oppoennt he faces.
Malinaggi who only has 5 Ko's on his record, wasnt that the argument not to bring in Spadfora?
Torres - gave Cotto fits, miguels toughest fight. Torres hits like a horse kicks, so Ricky would need to be careful.
Personally I'd go for either Diaz or Torress for excitment. Or Malinaggi for quality, although I feel it would be a really hard nights work for Ricky.
Casamayor and Torres would be good match ups. Casamayor albeit a lightweight is style wise a nightmare for Ricky Hatton and a big name in boxing. torres is not the weakest champ at 140, Mbaye was and now Rees is i spose, style wise Torres makes a good match, though id expect hattom to win by KO.
but I agree if you are going to fight at 140 he should be facing Witter or atleast Paulie Maligianni...
robpalmer135
07-26-2007, 09:45 AM
when i say bigger i mean more interesting as its two british fighters.
mike464
07-26-2007, 10:01 AM
if he's not fighting Mayweather or Cotto then why the hell doesn't he fight Witter. Coward
NOrth
07-26-2007, 10:46 AM
So Hatton Colin Lynes would be more intertesting that Hatton Torres? No way, no chance.
As for Witter, he's fighting on Sept 7th against Harris... although i think we all know Hatton doesnt want to line Witters pockets, dont we?
So Ricky pulled his self out of a fight with Mayweather once again but by saying he wants 50/50 this time? :lol: :lol:
No one should be surprised here.
mike464
07-26-2007, 02:50 PM
Hatton would not fight Mayweather even if the split was 60/40 in Hattons favour....Hatton only fights old has-beensI was a big Hatton fan when he beat Zoo but it's impossible to disagree with this. After he beat Zoo and Maussa everyone wanted to see him fight Mayweather. He said he wanted two warm up fights in the states. He's had three fights in the states and now it seems he'll duck out of it again. He'll obviously fight another lightweight, probably Casamayor. Grow some balls Ricky.
sandwichsurgeon
07-26-2007, 03:03 PM
As long as this article keeps my chips dry and warm tomorrow i don't care if it is a falsification.
BaronBrad
07-26-2007, 03:56 PM
If Ricky does lose the opportunity to fight Floyd because he is demanding an equal split of the purse then I will be very upset. Ricky has to realise that he is not on the same level and therefore should accept a smaller slice of the pie - this slice will be his biggest ever so it isn't really a bad deal.
If he is to fight in the UK then why not face Witter?
I am losing interest in Ricky and I have been watching him fight live since before he was a world champion.
BaronBrad
07-26-2007, 03:56 PM
double posted - sorry
sandwichsurgeon
07-26-2007, 04:02 PM
If Ricky does lose the opportunity to fight Floyd because he is demanding an equal split of the purse then I will be very upset. Ricky has to realise that he is not on the same level and therefore should accept a smaller slice of the pie - this slice will be his biggest ever so it isn't really a bad deal.
If he is to fight in the UK then why not face Witter?
I am losing interest in Ricky and I have been watching him fight live since before he was a world champion.
Oscar aint on the same level as Floyd but he still got a larger paycheck, if Floyd isn't willing to recieve the same amount of money as his peers for the same task then he should find another sport because boxing isn't for cowards.
hitman_hatton1
07-26-2007, 05:39 PM
it's too early to say either way at the moment.
before every fight we get these other fights rumoured.
let's hope it's mayweather.
it'll be very disappointing if that one falls thru after ricky looking so good in his last fight.
GazOC
07-26-2007, 05:51 PM
Its funny that people are willing (keen even!) to take a speculative article in a rag like the Sun as gospel if it puts Hatton in a bad light...
Its funny that people are willing (keen even!) to take a speculative article in a rag like the Sun as gospel if it puts Hatton in a bad light...
very true. the sun are quite accurate with there football speculation but not so much with boxing.
as far as i know hatton-mayweather is still being negotiated.
although i haven't heard details of any counter-offer from mayweathers camp after the original hobson offer
Johnboy2007
07-27-2007, 03:08 AM
Well if its in the sun it must be true i mean the newspapers (specially ones like the sun) are always stand-up, well informed, intelligently researched articles! :nut
NOrth
07-27-2007, 05:37 AM
Its a talking point, and refreshing for a newspaper, even the sun, to report anything on boxing.
"TKO"
07-27-2007, 07:26 AM
I was a big Hatton fan when he beat Zoo but it's impossible to disagree with this. After he beat Zoo and Maussa everyone wanted to see him fight Mayweather. He said he wanted two warm up fights in the states. He's had three fights in the states and now it seems he'll duck out of it again. He'll obviously fight another lightweight, probably Casamayor. Grow some balls Ricky.
Hey, hang on a second here. What Hatton actually said two years ago was that the fight would sell out in England, but as few people know him in the States, if it was to be held over there he would need two more fights to build himself into a known entity. The option was always open to stage the fight in England, if PBF could ever find his passport...
Presumably, if they were to meet now, the situation would remain the same. Hatton would have to step up to at least 147 as Floyd ain't coming down. So Hatton is going to have to step up to a weight class to which he isn't suited and fly halfway across the world to his opponent's home country, I wouldn''t say asking for 50/50 is unreasonable.
PBF may be p4p #1, but doesn't make him a massive draw. The sales and purses for his last bout were off the back of DLH's popularity. Hatton took more fans to Vegas for Castillo than Mayweather could draw in his own back yard! Lennox Lewis proved himself a vastly superior fighter to Tyson when they fought, but we know who got the bigger purse. I doubt if anybody has ever got a bigger purse than ODLH. Hatton-Mayweather would draw a six figure crowd over here and I reckon if PBF is insisting on any fight being in the states at his weight, purse parity is pretty damn reasonable!
Olu G. Rotimi
07-27-2007, 10:10 AM
Hatton does not want it with PBF. Why would he when he knows he will lose and be humiliated. Sounds like he is pricing himself out of the fight again. He is not really looking for testing fights. No mention of Cotto, Witter, Ajose Olusegun or Malignaggi for that matter.
SouthLondonsFinest
07-27-2007, 10:20 AM
Hatton does not want it with PBF. Why would he when he knows he will lose and be humiliated. Sounds like he is pricing himself out of the fight again. He is not really looking for testing fights. No mention of Cotto, Witter, Ajose Olusegun or Malignaggi for that matter.
I hope Ajose does make it to the top, but putting in the same setence with Cotto, Witter and Malignaggi is a bit silly. I can`t see him being on Hattons radar.
Max Molyneux
07-27-2007, 10:27 AM
Styles like Casa give Hatton fits so he wouldn't be fighting Ricky anytime soon. Castillo's style made Hatton more exciting thats why he was chosen and why guys like Witter and Paulie probably won't be.
If Floyd wasn't P4p no 1 and a huge name I doubt Hatton would be mentioning him.
I agree with what Paulie was quoted as saying In Boxing Monthly that he avoids boxers/slicksters. Paulie even mentioned he avoided Witter.
They make Hatton look bad but guys like Castillo make Hatton look great.
Olu G. Rotimi
07-27-2007, 12:26 PM
I hope Ajose does make it to the top, but putting in the same setence with Cotto, Witter and Malignaggi is a bit silly. I can`t see him being on Hattons radar.
Yeah right because the aforementioned are better fighters than him are they? Next thing you will be proclaiming the virtues of the like of Gavin Rees like his promoter being worthy of facing Hatton. Anybody is worthy the issue is who is the best period. I know who is. The best should fight the best not make micky mouse matches.
SouthLondonsFinest
07-27-2007, 01:03 PM
Yeah right because the aforementioned are better fighters than him are they? Next thing you will be proclaiming the virtues of the like of Gavin Rees like his promoter being worthy of facing Hatton. Anybody is worthy the issue is who is the best period. I know who is. The best should fight the best not make micky mouse matches.
get off ur high horse and stop being a tit, cos I dont think Gavin Rees does..
And yes the boxers mentioned have proved so far to be better than Ajose, cos of who they have fought.
DamonD
07-28-2007, 04:34 AM
As long as this article keeps my chips dry and warm tomorrow i don't care if it is a falsification.
Nice to see someone has the proper amount of perspective about a rag like The Sun...keeping chips warm should be its highest goal in life.
Olu G. Rotimi
07-28-2007, 04:19 PM
Olu, you are so partisan on this that it's hard to have a debate. yes, Ajose is a worthy fighter and, yes, he will contest for a title sometime in the next two years - I don't doubt it.
Why should hatton give Ajose a shot? What would he gain from it?
there's no legacy - people would just say he'd beat up on an unschooled fighter and, if Hatton thinks the same as you, that he'd lose, then the risk-reward ratio renders the fight pointless for him on a legacy basis.
Crap, but true.
I'd love if the best fight the best, but throughout history, there are too many examples of people studiously avoiding to do so.
It's a short career - you want to get out of it without ever having to work again.
Then simply mate don't lets call him the best or he claim that he is if they avoid true threats. Ajose is a better schooled fighter than Hatton with much more skills. My job is not to denigrate Hatton who I actually happen to like a lot both as fighter but also as a person.
Look fighters go into fights that they are not supposed to win be it style wise or other advantages however the special ones find a way to win. Ajose was supposed to lose to Martin Holgate in his 7th fight, Bradley Pryce and Ali Nuumbembee because he was not a known entity. What did he do he took as a personal insult and knocked the aforementioned out. Apart from the guys who have been avoiding none of his victims including champions like Bradley Pryce and Nuumbembee as screaming for a rematch which should tell people some thing.
As for Gavin Rees and Mbaye I shake my head at astonishment that Rees can be a world champion and the WBA belt for that matter. I can think of at least 10 domestic fighters that would beat Reid other than Hatton, Witter and Ajose. I think some might even be prepared to fight him for no purse so that they can get the WBA belt.
NOrth
07-30-2007, 09:37 AM
Hatton does not want it with PBF. Why would he when he knows he will lose and be humiliated. Sounds like he is pricing himself out of the fight again. He is not really looking for testing fights. No mention of Cotto, Witter, Ajose Olusegun or Malignaggi for that matter.
:yep :yep :yep Ajose Olusegun :yep :yep :yep he brings so much to the table, especially with Ricky not even holding a title at the moment (dont anyone comeback with IBO baloney). I could semi understand if his last performance was world class, or even remotley good - but it wasnt. He farted about for 12 rounds against a domestic journeyman.
Im a fan of Ajose, but please.
NOrth
07-30-2007, 09:41 AM
Then simply mate don't lets call him the best or he claim that he is if they avoid true threats. Ajose is a better schooled fighter than Hatton with much more skills. My job is not to denigrate Hatton who I actually happen to like a lot both as fighter but also as a person.
Look fighters go into fights that they are not supposed to win be it style wise or other advantages however the special ones find a way to win. Ajose was supposed to lose to Martin Holgate in his 7th fight, Bradley Pryce and Ali Nuumbembee because he was not a known entity. What did he do he took as a personal insult and knocked the aforementioned out. Apart from the guys who have been avoiding none of his victims including champions like Bradley Pryce and Nuumbembee as screaming for a rematch which should tell people some thing.
As for Gavin Rees and Mbaye I shake my head at astonishment that Rees can be a world champion and the WBA belt for that matter. I can think of at least 10 domestic fighters that would beat Reid other than Hatton, Witter and Ajose. I think some might even be prepared to fight him for no purse so that they can get the WBA belt.
Nuumbembe was supposed to beat Ajose? What, at 3 days notice? I think you should be trying to get Ajose a shot at some ranked opponents before telling everyone he's better than Hatton. Incidentally, was he weight drained for his last fight at 140? Because he didnt look impressive, was that down to the weight or his motivation for the fight?
Joking aside who is he going to fight next, any ideas?
NOrth
07-30-2007, 12:02 PM
Like ****** would put Rees anywhere near a Maloney fighter of Ajoses calibre though. Best thing Ajose can do is fight ranked fighters, isnt he 11 with the WBC? How about going to doncaster for the Harris Witter fight and causing a scene / calling the guys out in the presser or afterwards. Not very classy, but needs must.
scurlaruntings
07-30-2007, 05:19 PM
The sun is only 1 up from the daily sport.Il take the opinion of fightnews first..
DamonD
08-01-2007, 12:48 PM
How 'bout that...The Sun in 'full of crap' shocker.
Olu G. Rotimi
08-01-2007, 07:35 PM
:yep :yep :yep Ajose Olusegun :yep :yep :yep he brings so much to the table, especially with Ricky not even holding a title at the moment (dont anyone comeback with IBO baloney). I could semi understand if his last performance was world class, or even remotley good - but it wasnt. He farted about for 12 rounds against a domestic journeyman.
Im a fan of Ajose, but please.
North I am glad that you are an Ajose fan. He beat the living daylights out of Gary Reid winning every round. Yes he clowned around in the fight. Yes he can fight better. He has knocked out much better fighter than Reid. He had some niggly injuries gpoing into the fight. Reid was also in the best shape of his life and took a sustained beating. The most important thing was to win the fight. The performance was world class a real boxing clinic especially the 1st 6 rounds. Credit should go to Reid for taking his punishment as a man.
BigEars
08-01-2007, 07:58 PM
North I am glad that you are an Ajose fan. He beat the living daylights out of Gary Reid winning every round. Yes he clowned around in the fight. Yes he can fight better. He has knocked out much better fighter than Reid. He had some niggly injuries gpoing into the fight. Reid was also in the best shape of his life and took a sustained beating. The most important thing was to win the fight. The performance was world class a real boxing clinic especially the 1st 6 rounds. Credit should go to Reid for taking his punishment as a man.
But in all serious Olu , Ajose had the ability to get Reid out of there(and fairly early) and he didn't do that . He had a chance to showcase himself on Sky and although he showed he clearly has skills if you want to be a succesful African boxer in Britain(basically without much fanbase that is going to have it tough trying to earn a fanbase) you got to be putting these guys away easily .
Reid was in the shape of his life and as we know is tough and fair play to him for that , but at the same time Hatton wouldn't have gone more than 2 rounds with him and Witter wouldn't have gone the distance either .
Olu G. Rotimi
08-02-2007, 07:06 PM
But in all serious Olu , Ajose had the ability to get Reid out of there(and fairly early) and he didn't do that . He had a chance to showcase himself on Sky and although he showed he clearly has skills if you want to be a succesful African boxer in Britain(basically without much fanbase that is going to have it tough trying to earn a fanbase) you got to be putting these guys away easily .
Reid was in the shape of his life and as we know is tough and fair play to him for that , but at the same time Hatton wouldn't have gone more than 2 rounds with him and Witter wouldn't have gone the distance either .
Nobody would get Reid out in 2 rounds the shape he was in for this fight. When Reid is given a week or a few days notice and is consequently not properly prepared yes he gets stopped. The strategy was not to go gung ho and knock Reid out at all costs but to give him a systematic beating. Reid post fight comments are revealing saying Ajose was the best he had been in there with and that he Reid was in the shape of his life. Youi can analyse abilities and skills what you cannot measure is a fighters heart. I give Gary Reid absolute respect and honour for going the distance after taking so much punishment.
ferd cloupes
08-02-2007, 08:34 PM
oh so he didn't want to knock him out.. systematic beating my arse. that explains his distasteful showboating over an outgunned overmatched foe. as showcases go you can paint the reid fight any way you want, olusegun blew it.
Dunky McCafferty
08-02-2007, 11:27 PM
oh so he didn't want to knock him out.. systematic beating my arse. that explains his distasteful showboating over an outgunned overmatched foe. as showcases go you can paint the reid fight any way you want, olusegun blew it.
How did Olusegun 'blow it'??? As Olu admitted, Olusegun could have performed better, but he won the fight comfortably. So the knockout didnt come, but thats boxing. You wont always blow away every guy you face, so give Olusegun a break. He got the W, won the belt, job done. Its now onwards & upwards for Olusegun.
I dont see how thats 'blowing it'.
"TKO"
08-03-2007, 07:43 AM
I have to admit I think Olu is going just a little bit overboard with the Ajose Olusegun hero worship. Anybody can say an opponent was "in the best shape of his life" for the purpose of bigging up their fighter and quite frankly when the opponent is a guy with a 13-16-1 record, anyone with any pretensions to be anywhere near world class should be beating the granny out of him irrespective of what shape he's in. It will take a lot better opponent than this before we can make any kind of judgement about how he will fare at top level.
To put into perspective, Olusegun's opponents to ddate have a combined record of 187-350-29. That's almost twice as many losses as victories. And yet people are wittering on about this guy getting a shot at Hatton. Sheesh!!!!
Olu G. Rotimi
08-03-2007, 08:39 AM
I have to admit I think Olu is going just a little bit overboard with the Ajose Olusegun hero worship. Anybody can say an opponent was "in the best shape of his life" for the purpose of bigging up their fighter and quite frankly when the opponent is a guy with a 13-16-1 record, anyone with any pretensions to be anywhere near world class should be beating the granny out of him irrespective of what shape he's in. It will take a lot better opponent than this before we can make any kind of judgement about how he will fare at top level.
To put into perspective, Olusegun's opponents to ddate have a combined record of 187-350-29. That's almost twice as many losses as victories. And yet people are wittering on about this guy getting a shot at Hatton. Sheesh!!!!
Where don't you check Hatton opponents record pre Tyzu and you will get your answer. All my man does is beat what is put before him decisively.
"TKO"
08-03-2007, 09:49 AM
Answer to what, I didn't pose any question.
Oh I allow for the fact that your man beats what is put in front of him decisively. But when what is put in front of him has a 13-16-1 record that ain't saying too much.
I am fully aware of Hatton's opponents pre-Tszyu, I have followed his career from virtually day one. But to put things into some kind of perspective, the last opponent Hatton faced with a losing record was Mark Ramsay, some six years and 25 fights pre-Tszyu. He had beaten Tackie, Magee, Phillips, Oliveira and others in that time, all top 20 fighters.
Ajose may be very talented, but I think all this mentioning him alongside Cotto, PBF, Margarito, even Witter or Harris as a serious contender in the Hatton sweepstakes needs to stop until he at least proves himself worthy in some manner or other.
hitman_hatton1
08-03-2007, 01:21 PM
it's too early to say either way at the moment.
before every fight we get these other fights rumoured.
let's hope it's mayweather.
it'll be very disappointing if that one falls thru after ricky looking so good in his last fight.
:yep :happy :hi:
:deal :tong :smooch
ron u.k.
08-03-2007, 07:08 PM
there was a rather disturding article in The Sun this morning about Ricky Hatton next fight. saying it would be in England is good, but the 3 opponents he has to choose from our
David Diaz 32 - 1 - 1 (ONLY 17 K.O)
He is a world champ ok, BUT AT LIGHTWEIGHT, and the loest ranked off the 4. the sort of fight Amir Khan should be thinking about not Hatton. ranked 11 by boxrec
also due to fight Erik Morales
Ricardo Torres 31 - 1 - 0 (27 K.O)
lost to Miguel Cotto in 7 rounds, was considerd the weakest of the 4 Light Welter champs (until Rees won on saturday) no big wins on his record, ranked 16 by Boxrec. lowest rated champ by the ring at light welter.
Joel Casamayor
a bit more like it but still A LIGHTWEIGHT. only big win is agaisnt corrales and lost to Catillo who Hatton beat in 4 rounds.
Paul Spadafora 46 - 0 - 1 (ONLY 16 K.Os!!!!!!!!)
no big names on his record, has nly fought 12 rounds 9 times, ranked 47 at light welter by Boxrec. NOT RANKED IN THE TOP 15 BY THE WBA, WBC, WBO or IBF. NOT IN THE RING TOP 10.
also said he wants 50-50 with Mayweather which is a joke, he could get paid 30-70 and would still be hattons biggest pay day. Maywether is the P4P Champion for gods sake.
this could be a case of bad reporting but the reason i am writing this article is because it realkly would not suprise me. Hatton talks about fighting Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley, De la Hoya, but i bet you he fights one of these 4 guys. absolutley ridiclious. if he fights one of those 4 will proove he just chose Tyszu and Castillo at the end of thier careers and really wants no part in the big fight, just wants to mug people of as most of his fans follow Hatton and not boxing.
here is a list of better fights that could be made
Welterweight:
Floyd Mayeather
Miguel Cotto
Oscar De La Hoya
Shane Mosley
Paul Williams
Antonio Margorito
Kermit Cintron
Zab Judah
Luis Collazo II
Light Welterweight:
Junior Witter
Paulie Malignaggi
Gavin Rees (still bigger than those 4 fights)
Demitrius Hopkins
Vivian Harris
thats 14 fights that are better. if hatton takes one of those 4 (except maybe maybe maybe Casamayor) (and thats if the others want $20million dollers to fight in there home town) then he is an absolute bumwell then?:hi:
GazOC
08-03-2007, 07:12 PM
mate, what do you expect? have you been following Ricky's career?
you really think he's gonna fight an elite fighter in or ner his prime? :huh
In a similar vein....;)
Dunky McCafferty
08-04-2007, 02:43 AM
I dont know why you hatton nuthuggers are laughing, cos Ricky is going to get his ass handed to him big time:thumbsup
At last, hes made the mistake of thinking he can compete with the best again, didnt Collazo teach him his lesson? Obviously not, & Im laughing:lol: Big Hatton hating laughs that is, loud laughter that would wake your mother up from her slumber & shout at you to turn your hi-fi down:lol:
Theres only two real hatton haters left in this world,me & my man Scurlaruntings. & we are going to laugh last, & as you boys know, they who laugh last laugh longest & loudest:deal
I refused to believe it at first as it was too good to be true, but I finally get my dream. To see one of my heroes beat up on Hatton:lol: Get in there!!!!
Its just a shame my honorary scotsman Witter didnt get to him first.
I dont know why you hatton nuthuggers are laughing, cos Ricky is going to get his ass handed to him big time:thumbsup
At last, hes made the mistake of thinking he can compete with the best again, didnt Collazo teach him his lesson? Obviously not, & Im laughing:lol: Big Hatton hating laughs that is, loud laughter that would wake your mother up from her slumber & shout at you to turn your hi-fi down:lol:
Theres only two real hatton haters left in this world,me & my man Scurlaruntings. & we are going to laugh last, & as you boys know, they who laugh last laugh longest & loudest:deal
I refused to believe it at first as it was too good to be true, but I finally get my dream. To see one of my heroes beat up on Hatton:lol: Get in there!!!!
Its just a shame my honorary scotsman Witter didnt get to him first.
the thing is dunky...most hatton fans are realistic enough to know that he's most likely going to get beaten, but are just happy he's getting to fight the best boxer in the world.
wouldn't you have liked your man scott harrison to have got the chance to fight barrera or pacman even though there would have been a big possibility of him losing?
its like when my team Doncaster Rovers played Bolton Wanderers last season...we knew we were likely to get our asses kicked, but you still support your team and you never know, there might be an upset!
so yeah...laugh away. :tong
"TKO"
08-04-2007, 08:07 AM
Indeed. Hatton is to be applauded for wanting to test himself against the very best. If he loses, no shame in it. He is facing the best p4p fighter in the world, stepping up a weight to do it and fighting in his opponent's backyard. Indicative of the guy's fight anyone mentality.
Olu G. Rotimi
08-04-2007, 08:23 AM
Indeed. Hatton is to be applauded for wanting to test himself against the very best. If he loses, no shame in it. He is facing the best p4p fighter in the world, stepping up a weight to do it and fighting in his opponent's backyard. Indicative of the guy's fight anyone mentality.
It sounds like you are preparing yourself for Hatton to be defeated which he will be in this match up and decisively.
GazOC
08-04-2007, 08:54 AM
As I've said before, the Mayweather fight is a good proposition for Hatton. Unless he gets totally outclassed and battered, he have just lost to the undefeated, P4P fighting in a higher weight class. He'll still have the same options at 140 as he does now but be a lot richer and and even better known 'name'.
Dunky,
I don't think the Collazo fight is going to to tell us much about the Mayweather fight. Hatton just put on extra weight for the fight because he could, rather than coming in a weight that suited him. Also the size difference beween Hatton and Mayweather will not be as large as it was for the Collazo fight, Mayweather is not a big Welter and fought a large part of his career at 135. I can see this be an interesting fight, in the last couple of fights Mayweathers punch output has been pretty poor and he's going to have to 'up' it to keep Hatton off, I don't think the potshotting that worked against de al Hoya (who couldn't sustain the pressure) will work against a younger opponent.
As an aside, its quite funny to see the haters change attacks from 'he won't fight anyone decent in their prime' to 'well he's going to get beat anyway'...he at the very least deserves some praise for taking the fight....even off you haters.
Olu G. Rotimi
08-04-2007, 06:29 PM
And how would Ajose do against Mayweather?
Hatton will at least be competitive.
If Ajose and PBF were to fight they would both be in trouble. These are 2 thoroughbreads. Hatton is not going to competitive with PBF. It may shock you to hear this however after the fight when my prediction comes true I hope you can hold your hands up to say I was right.
Olu G. Rotimi
08-04-2007, 06:37 PM
As I've said before, the Mayweather fight is a good proposition for Hatton. Unless he gets totally outclassed and battered, he have just lost to the undefeated, P4P fighting in a higher weight class. He'll still have the same options at 140 as he does now but be a lot richer and and even better known 'name'.
Dunky,
I don't think the Collazo fight is going to to tell us much about the Mayweather fight. Hatton just put on extra weight for the fight because he could, rather than coming in a weight that suited him. Also the size difference beween Hatton and Mayweather will not be as large as it was for the Collazo fight, Mayweather is not a big Welter and fought a large part of his career at 135. I can see this be an interesting fight, in the last couple of fights Mayweathers punch output has been pretty poor and he's going to have to 'up' it to keep Hatton off, I don't think the potshotting that worked against de al Hoya (who couldn't sustain the pressure) will work against a younger opponent.
As an aside, its quite funny to see the haters change attacks from 'he won't fight anyone decent in their prime' to 'well he's going to get beat anyway'...he at the very least deserves some praise for taking the fight....even off you haters.
GazOC, Leonard Ellerbe and I have given Hatton credit for taking this fight. PBF does not need to put shot Hatton and neither is the weight going to be an issue. What is going to be an issue is Hatton's style and PBF's skills, timing and abilities. PBF is going to have a field day with Hatton because Hatton style and strengths are ready for PBF to expose.
As for praise the most goes to PBF a world champion in 5 weight divisions beating the very best in all divisions except for Light Welterweight.
GazOC
08-04-2007, 07:11 PM
Sometimes you are really hard work Olu...you post without actually saying anything new that you havn't said many times before.
Shouldn't PBF get critisim for fighting such a (apparently) limited fighter as Hatton, like you give Hatton for his weak opposition?
ferd cloupes
08-04-2007, 08:25 PM
olusegun. blew. it.
Dunky McCafferty
08-04-2007, 10:40 PM
olusegun. blew. it.
Is that the best you got newb? Come on. You said that line before.must do better if wanting to become part of brit ESB clique.
Up your game. THATS AN ORDER.
Dunky McCafferty
08-04-2007, 10:56 PM
the thing is dunky...most hatton fans are realistic enough to know that he's most likely going to get beaten, but are just happy he's getting to fight the best boxer in the world.
wouldn't you have liked your man scott harrison to have got the chance to fight barrera or pacman even though there would have been a big possibility of him losing?
its like when my team Doncaster Rovers played Bolton Wanderers last season...we knew we were likely to get our asses kicked, but you still support your team and you never know, there might be an upset!
so yeah...laugh away. :tong
Look Rooq Im an old hand at hatton hating now, & I know the score. Hatton is fighting the best, & defeat is no disgrace. I grudgingly accept that. HOWEVER, your talk of hatton fans thinking hes going to get beat is WAY off the mark. Most of 'em I see think hes going to walk through Floyd, land a 'rib cruncher' & walk away victorious. & I have facts to back this up. You know me, never one to just make bold statements for bold statements sake.
Hatton fans think hes going to win, & thats why Im going to do my old big bad scottish villain routine & antagonise the hatton fans, like they have always did to me. This time its war, & for once I have the pretty boy on my side, a fighter in his prime. & thats all I have ever asked for, hatton to fight fighters who arent past it.
If Ricky wins, even I admit I will have to give him his respect. But it aint gonna happen. Its time for Ricky to find out what fighting great fighters in there prime is all about, finally.
GazOC
08-05-2007, 01:43 AM
You know me, never one to just make bold statements for bold statements sake.
Well thats a bold statement to make, I hope you can back it up...;)
ron u.k.
08-05-2007, 04:14 AM
hey dunks,it's true hatton is probably going to get beat but we were laughing at that guy above who wrote a 1000 word post about how hatton is avoiding every fighter on the planet,because of something he read in the sun.then lo and behold they sign the deal to fight pretty boy.real avoidance!
Olu G. Rotimi
08-05-2007, 05:20 AM
Sometimes you are really hard work Olu...you post without actually saying anything new that you havn't said many times before.
Shouldn't PBF get critisim for fighting such a (apparently) limited fighter as Hatton, like you give Hatton for his weak opposition?
GazOC I am not slagging Hattons abilities what I am saying is that his attributes are atually made to order for PBF. I actually thinking it is stupid matchmaking from the perspective of prolonging Hatton's career however that is another thing altogether.
I have noticed a lot of Brits are slagging off PBF on this site and others(not you) just because the want Hatton to win. I don't think PBF should be criticised because he has done something very boxers in history can do. Taking care of Hatton would enable PBF to do something he was previously denied by taking out the acknowledged best at 140 pounds.
GazOC
08-05-2007, 09:52 AM
I think you've got to take fights like this when they come along, Hatton is a 28 year pressure fighter. He either takes the big fights now or in two years he'll have no chance of winning them anyway.
I don't think this fight will seriously affect Hattons ability to fight on after it, even a Gatti-lke drubbing (which I don't expect BTW, Hatton has better footwork and handspeed than Gatti) still leaves Hatton the man at 140, capable of 2 or 3 decent fights against the likes of Mallinagi and retired at 30.
It's a good fight to take for Hatton at this point in his career, he's the prime age for the type of fighter he is. I think its fair to say if he can't beat Mayweather now then he never will in the future and a defeat still leaves him withsome good years ahead at 140.
LeedsLad
08-06-2007, 08:39 AM
If Ajose and PBF were to fight they would both be in trouble. These are 2 thoroughbreads. Hatton is not going to competitive with PBF. It may shock you to hear this however after the fight when my prediction comes true I hope you can hold your hands up to say I was right.
PBF will NEVER fight Ajose, and then Olesugen would probably start his shit about how hes the most ducked fighter ever again:lol::lol: IMO Colin Lynes would have a good chance of beating Ajose.
NOrth
08-06-2007, 09:46 AM
[quote=Olu G. Rotimi]GazOC I am not slagging Hattons abilities what I am saying is that his attributes are atually made to order for PBF. I actually thinking it is stupid matchmaking from the perspective of prolonging Hatton's career however that is another thing altogether.
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How do you figure Hatton is made to measure for PBF? His hardest contests have come against pressure fighters who dont hit as hard or move aswel as Ricky does. PBF has no size or weight advantage.
Also your comment about PBF being in trouble if he fought Ajose shows blatent blinkered bias and stupidity.
How do you feel Floyd Vs Gary Reid would go?
Who is Ajose fighitng next? When?
LeedsLad
08-06-2007, 09:53 AM
How do you figure Hatton is made to measure for PBF? His hardest contests have come against pressure fighters who dont hit as hard or move aswel as Ricky does. PBF has no size or weight advantage.
Also your comment about PBF being in trouble if he fought Ajose shows blatent blinkered bias and stupidity.
How do you feel Floyd Vs Gary Reid would go?
Who is Ajose fighitng next? When?
Exactly. Floyd vs Reid wouldnt last a round, Hatton-Reid wouldnt last 4. Ajose is becoming one of the most over-hyped fighters around. I guess Floyd's ducking him though right, since hes the most avoided fighter around:lol::lol:
ron u.k.
08-06-2007, 09:59 AM
check out ajose's last 5 or 6 opponents combined losses and knockout stats.
ferd cloupes
08-06-2007, 10:35 AM
Is that the best you got newb? Come on. You said that line before.must do better if wanting to become part of brit ESB clique.
Up your game. THATS AN ORDER.
but i used punctuation this time for dramatic effect..
"TKO"
08-06-2007, 12:01 PM
Hatton fans think hes going to win, & thats why Im going to do my old big bad scottish villain routine & antagonise the hatton fans, like they have always did to me. This time its war, & for once I have the pretty boy on my side, a fighter in his prime. & thats all I have ever asked for, hatton to fight fighters who arent past it.
:patsch Strange talent that Hatton seems to have, this ability to find reigning world champions (four in a row) who all happen to be conveniently "past it". The problem being that if a fighter is really "past it", he wouldn't be a world champion in the first place!!! I allow for the fact that the multitude of belts about these days mean some fighters who are in no way #1 in the division are able to pick up belts, but even so...
Personally, I am well aware that Hatton is probably not going to win this one. He's moving up from his natural weight and giving up home advantage to fight the #1 p4p in the world, you can't set yourself a much tougher challenge than that. It's not the same as being upset by a shot Manuel Medina in a fight that was made for you to win and look good in :yep Whatever happens though, Hatton is determined to test himself against the very best. You can't ask for more than that.
As for Mayweather being a "fighter who isn't past it", if Hatton does manager to pull this one off, I will bet my bottom dollar we start hearing comments of the "Hatton dragged Mayweather out of retirement to fight him", "when is Hatton going to face an opponent under 30" variety!!!
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