the top myths about boxing!!!!!!!!!

[rochsolloch]

1."SOME BOXERS GET STRONGER AS THE FIGHT GOES ON"

this is an irritant that pops up again and again,speak 2 any1 who knows about sports science and they will tell you categorically it is impossible.As the wise ols usa trainer luther burgess once said "the only way a fighter can get stronger is if he takes or absorbs an illegal drug between rounds."As rounds go by and punches absorbed and thrown muscles tire and lactic acid builds up,basically you get weaker,what often happens is the fighter who is in the best shape takes longer to tire so it appears that 1 boxer is getting stronger when in fact both are getting weaker but at different speeds.it only appears 1 is getting stronger,its an impossibility!.

2."YOU CANT BUILD MUSCLES ON CHINS"

actually you can!obviously not literally,but a boxer can be trained to take a better punch.All other things being equal,punch resistance relates to size.example flyweight A may own a tungsten jaw and big punch heavyweight B may be burdened with a glass jaw and feather duster punch,but if the flyweight lands his honey punch on the heavyweight,nothing will happen.vice versa though the flyweight is out for the count!
theres an obvious physiological reason for this,its not just the chin that absorbs the punch but the whole body,improving your cardio vascular fitness makes a huge difference as your ability 2 take a blow diminishes with exhaustion.strengthening neck muscles is importantas the neck is a shock absorber for the blows also strong legs help.for boxers below heavy and light heavy punch resistance is improved if they dont strain to make weightie no dehydration helps a lot very much so in later rounds.

3."PRE.FIGHT SEX TAKES AWAY DESIRE AND PERFORMANCE.!


total myth!years ago theyd tell boxers dont lift weights and dont swim before a fight!and never have sex a few weeks before fight night!

modern trainers laugh about the swimming and weights but oddly the sex thing persists.
the myth that it lowers testosterone and takes away agression is false,testosterone is raised or rises in hours after sex along with a feeling of confidence,and its not overly exerting ,depending on the girlfriend....joking!
seriously though it has nothing to do with losing testosterone .

[Thread Stealer]

Here's a list of random boxing myths/misconceptions that are kind of annoying.

Marvin Hagler was a brawler.

Fernando Vargas lost to Felix Trinidad simply because he chose to brawl instead of box.

Oscar De La Hoya's corner told him to run against Trinidad.

James Toney-Michael Nunn was a "lucky punch". Toney was getting to Nunn had won the previous couple of rounds. Actually, basically any time "lucky punch" is used.

When people act like Foreman was dominating Ali before he got tired. People saying that De La Hoya "clearly sealed" the victory over Quartey in the 12th makes me want to puke. Also, when people say "all you had to do was stand up to Tyson and he'd crumble". Geez, you think these pro fighters, world class contenders, would be a little tougher than to be spelled by the magic wand of fear that Tyson waved.

"You have to take it from the champion and win impressively". No, you have to win more rounds. There's like a gazillion belts out there. "Champion" means less nowadays.

[Nawfal]

1."SOME BOXERS GET STRONGER AS THE FIGHT GOES ON"

this is an irritant that pops up again and again,speak 2 any1 who knows about sports science and they will tell you categorically it is impossible.As the wise ols usa trainer luther burgess once said "the only way a fighter can get stronger is if he takes or absorbs an illegal drug between rounds."As rounds go by and punches absorbed and thrown muscles tire and lactic acid builds up,basically you get weaker,what often happens is the fighter who is in the best shape takes longer to tire so it appears that 1 boxer is getting stronger when in fact both are getting weaker but at different speeds.it only appears 1 is getting stronger,its an impossibility!.

2."YOU CANT BUILD MUSCLES ON CHINS"

actually you can!obviously not literally,but a boxer can be trained to take a better punch.All other things being equal,punch resistance relates to size.example flyweight A may own a tungsten jaw and big punch heavyweight B may be burdened with a glass jaw and feather duster punch,but if the flyweight lands his honey punch on the heavyweight,nothing will happen.vice versa though the flyweight is out for the count!
theres an obvious physiological reason for this,its not just the chin that absorbs the punch but the whole body,improving your cardio vascular fitness makes a huge difference as your ability 2 take a blow diminishes with exhaustion.strengthening neck muscles is importantas the neck is a shock absorber for the blows also strong legs help.for boxers below heavy and light heavy punch resistance is improved if they dont strain to make weightie no dehydration helps a lot very much so in later rounds.

3."PRE.FIGHT SEX TAKES AWAY DESIRE AND PERFORMANCE.!


total myth!years ago theyd tell boxers dont lift weights and dont swim before a fight!and never have sex a few weeks before fight night!

modern trainers laugh about the swimming and weights but oddly the sex thing persists.
the myth that it lowers testosterone and takes away agression is false,testosterone is raised or rises in hours after sex along with a feeling of confidence,and its not overly exerting ,depending on the girlfriend....joking!
seriously though it has nothing to do with losing testosterone .

re no1: i dont think people mean they are actually getting stronger physcially. but their confidence is building up, so they feel stronger so they act stronger.

i think thats a fair point, but if you take it literally then of course its wrong

[MARVELOUS]

If you don't got a chin, you don't got a chin. :hi:

[Danny Ocean]

lennox lewis had a glass chin
tyson had no heart

[PH|LLA]

only a moron thinks people say those first 2 literally

[China_hand_Joe]

3."PRE.FIGHT SEX TAKES AWAY DESIRE AND PERFORMANCE.!


total myth!years ago theyd tell boxers dont lift weights and dont swim before a fight!and never have sex a few weeks before fight night!

but oddly the sex thing persists.You forget about the powerful placebo effect.

[Relentless]

If you don't got a chin, you don't got a chin. :hi:

that dont even make sense, that dont even make sense. :hi:

[Boom_Boom]

Prime Mike Tyson could not beat Buster Douglas that night, when in fact the Mike Tyson that did showed up almost did.

[ChampionsForever]

My all time worse is the Tyson ones "anybody who stood up to him beat him" :patsch god damnit some people are thick.

[sandwichsurgeon]

Roy Jones Jr spent his whole career with a china-chin waiting to be exposed

The moment an unbeaten fighter loses his 0 he has been exposed

Tyson - Douglas tells us all we need to know about Tysons capabilities

Vitali < prime LL

Malignaggi could beat Hatton as is evident by arguably Hattons worst performance of his entire career (the other 41 fights don't count for much apparently)

[Thread Stealer]

Vitali < prime LL


:roll:

Vitali < 38 year old, undertrained, inactive for a year LL

[Bazooka]

I wouldnt say that the first one is a myth, and I wouldnt say that a fighter gets stronger as the fight goes on, what happens is usally one fighter seperates himself from the other as the fight goes on, to casual fight fan that may appear that he is getting stronger but the truth is the fighter usally gets into some sort of grove as the fight moves along.

The second one has some truth to it, but lets be honest if you dont have a chin there isnt much you can do to help it, Neck excercises and building your legs will help but still if a mans chin is glass it wont help much.

And finally the weights well tell ya what, the weight training to me stiffens you up, and once you get throwing shots your arms tighten not a good thing to happen in the ring if your in there with someone who does not lift either, However I think it has more to do with too much weight lifting.
The sex thing I dont know if I agree or disagree with you here, but I will tell you it does take something out of your legs.

[brooklyn1550]

Here's a list of random boxing myths/misconceptions that are kind of annoying.

Marvin Hagler was a brawler.

Fernando Vargas lost to Felix Trinidad simply because he chose to brawl instead of box.

Oscar De La Hoya's corner told him to run against Trinidad.

James Toney-Michael Nunn was a "lucky punch". Toney was getting to Nunn had won the previous couple of rounds. Actually, basically any time "lucky punch" is used.

When people act like Foreman was dominating Ali before he got tired. People saying that De La Hoya "clearly sealed" the victory over Quartey in the 12th makes me want to puke. Also, when people say "all you had to do was stand up to Tyson and he'd crumble". Geez, you think these pro fighters, world class contenders, would be a little tougher than to be spelled by the magic wand of fear that Tyson waved.

"You have to take it from the champion and win impressively". No, you have to win more rounds. There's like a gazillion belts out there. "Champion" means less nowadays.

Wow, great post:good . I agree 100 percent with everything on there.

[Dostoevsky]

Lifting weights is bad for your reflexes and hand speed.

[Marnoff]

You're taking things too literally....

[Marnoff]

The sex thing I dont know if I agree or disagree with you here, but I will tell you it does take something out of your legs.

Agreed. I don't know to what extent, but I don't train as well on days that I do. Two days after or so and I feel 100%, generally. Different with each person, I'd imagine.

As for the weight lifting myth, I don't agree. I feel like weights slow a person down. There are obviously different ways to train with weights, but any time you're maxxing out your capabilities, you're going to wreck your stamina and slow yourself down. Lots of reps at low weights seems to work fight, just building lean muscle.

[David UK]

1) That superstars of the past would have defeated todays stars. In ALL measurable athletic activity, performances have steadily improved over time. If we didn't have the proof there would be people who would claim that Jesse Owens would have beaten Carl Lewis. I'm not saying Shannon Briggs would have bbeaten Ali, but generally today's fighters are far superior in speed, strength, size for the weight,power, fitness and staminia.

2) Lifting weights slows you down. Total and complete myth

[FlatNose]

The so-called myth about weights is not exactly true, but not exactly false either.It is really just a waste of time for boxers to lift weights.Roadwork is valuable because of the cardio effect, the help in weight management, and the pounding on the pavement helps harden and condition the boxer for the punishing nature of a fight.Neck and stomach exercises help as well, when the neck is strong , head shots get absorbed better because the neck won't snap back as much.The abdominal conditioning is for body shots.Then there is sparring which also hardens, conditions, and helps the boxer set a pace.Big biceps, barrel chests, and wide backs do nothing for the conditioning of a fighter, and with all the other work a fighter has to do, the weights are a waste of time and energy.

[Rock0052]

The so-called myth about weights is not exactly true, but not exactly false either.It is really just a waste of time for boxers to lift weights.Roadwork is valuable because of the cardio effect, the help in weight management, and the pounding on the pavement helps harden and condition the boxer for the punishing nature of a fight.Neck and stomach exercises help as well, when the neck is strong , head shots get absorbed better because the neck won't snap back as much.The abdominal conditioning is for body shots.Then there is sparring which also hardens, conditions, and helps the boxer set a pace.Big biceps, barrel chests, and wide backs do nothing for the conditioning of a fighter, and with all the other work a fighter has to do, the weights are a waste of time and energy.
I tell you what though, while bodybuilding and bench pressing won't do anything for a fighter, doing Olympic lifts like power clean, hang clean, clean and jerk, snatch, and hang snatch definitely will. Doing those lifts work out the muscles that make people more explosive, as well as helping to make the bones stronger. They're also dynamic in that you're working multiple muscle groups at once and not isolating muscle groups. I gave up benching (do dips and chins instead) and other "bodybuilding" exercises for that routine and I've noticed a sizeable difference in how hard I can hit the heavy bag and overall body strength. Those exercises also won't make you muscle bound.

For any current fighters reading this, find someone to teach you these exercises or read [Only registered and activated users can see links]

to learn what to do. You'll be glad you did come fight night.

[David UK]

The so-called myth about weights is not exactly true, but not exactly false either.It is really just a waste of time for boxers to lift weights.Roadwork is valuable because of the cardio effect, the help in weight management, and the pounding on the pavement helps harden and condition the boxer for the punishing nature of a fight.Neck and stomach exercises help as well, when the neck is strong , head shots get absorbed better because the neck won't snap back as much.The abdominal conditioning is for body shots.Then there is sparring which also hardens, conditions, and helps the boxer set a pace.Big biceps, barrel chests, and wide backs do nothing for the conditioning of a fighter, and with all the other work a fighter has to do, the weights are a waste of time and energy.

A stronger muscle explodes faster than a weaker muscle.

[Relentless]

The so-called myth about weights is not exactly true, but not exactly false either.It is really just a waste of time for boxers to lift weights.Roadwork is valuable because of the cardio effect, the help in weight management, and the pounding on the pavement helps harden and condition the boxer for the punishing nature of a fight.Neck and stomach exercises help as well, when the neck is strong , head shots get absorbed better because the neck won't snap back as much.The abdominal conditioning is for body shots.Then there is sparring which also hardens, conditions, and helps the boxer set a pace.Big biceps, barrel chests, and wide backs do nothing for the conditioning of a fighter, and with all the other work a fighter has to do, the weights are a waste of time and energy.

:lol: you sound confused, pounding on pavement as you say it is more bad than good, and in no way does it get you ready for punishment, throw away the book you were reading.

[Ramshall1]

Running away from your opponant is "ring generalship".

[Bigcat]

Boxers getting stronger the longer the fight goes on ...

Take for instance... An Underdog of massive preportions getting a chance of a lifetime against a dominant champion..

The fight starts slow and the underdog gets a little bit of success , In seeing his successes he starts to push his highly touted opponent to his limits, Then out of the blue he takes a chance, drops the champ and it spurs the unlikely challenger to grab for glory, he fights harder as each round goes by in a desperate attempt to acheive his now very reachable goal..

Is this not an example of a fighter growing in strength (by way of adrenaline) as the rounds go on in an important fight..........

It is however a unique scenario.. a la James Douglas v Mike Tyson ...

[eltorrente]

Calzaghe is the second coming of Jesus.

Hatton is an ATG.

Larry Merchant doesn't drink.

[Rock0052]

Calzaghe is the second coming of Jesus.


That is a myth- we all know he's really Jesus' long lost twin brother.

[Chief_Second]

wlad was drugged everytime he lost a fight

[Vantage_West]

My all time worse is the Tyson ones "anybody who stood up to him beat him" :patsch god damnit some people are thick. i feel it was the fight plan to disrespect the guy and not be scared...but not ANY fighter could do that
julius francis did that ...got torn apart.
mcNeeley did and he was totally outclassed

it was what you had to do to win but it wasnt the key to it

good point

[Rock0052]

Here's another one: Floyd's got a weak resume.

[Arthur]

I tell you what though, while bodybuilding and bench pressing won't do anything for a fighter, doing Olympic lifts like power clean, hang clean, clean and jerk, snatch, and hang snatch definitely will. Doing those lifts work out the muscles that make people more explosive, as well as helping to make the bones stronger. They're also dynamic in that you're working multiple muscle groups at once and not isolating muscle groups. I gave up benching (do dips and chins instead) and other "bodybuilding" exercises for that routine and I've noticed a sizeable difference in how hard I can hit the heavy bag and overall body strength. Those exercises also won't make you muscle bound.

For any current fighters reading this, find someone to teach you these exercises or read [Only registered and activated users can see links]

to learn what to do. You'll be glad you did come fight night.

I CAN TELL YOU WITHOUT DOUBT THAT WHAT THIS GUY SAID IS TRUE. I BEGAN DOING OLYMPIC LIFTS AT THE END OF LAST YEAR AND MY POWER HAS EXPLODED. MY SPARRING PARTNERS HAVE ALL NOTICED THE DIFFERENCE. YOU'LL BE WISE TO LISTEN TO THIS GUY...

another myth: boxing with gloves is safer than bare knuckle fighting.

[thunder06]

blacks are better fighters and overall athletes than whites/other ethic/racial groups.

[Ramshall1]

Here's another one: Floyd's got a weak resume.
I got a better one. . . Floyds not a coward.

[4Rounder]

Whitaker outclassed Chavez and made him look ordinary, one of the biggest myths of this site. I hate this stupid crap, people don't leave room to see it was clearly a draw.

[Rock0052]

I CAN TELL YOU WITHOUT DOUBT THAT WHAT THIS GUY SAID IS TRUE. I BEGAN DOING OLYMPIC LIFTS AT THE END OF LAST YEAR AND MY POWER HAS EXPLODED. MY SPARRING PARTNERS HAVE ALL NOTICED THE DIFFERENCE. YOU'LL BE WISE TO LISTEN TO THIS GUY...

another myth: boxing with gloves is safer than bare knuckle fighting.

Glad to hear it's working for you bro :good

[crashzzz]

3."PRE.FIGHT SEX TAKES AWAY DESIRE AND PERFORMANCE.!

total myth!years ago theyd tell boxers dont lift weights and dont swim before a fight!and never have sex a few weeks before fight night!

modern trainers laugh about the swimming and weights but oddly the sex thing persists.
the myth that it lowers testosterone and takes away agression is false,testosterone is raised or rises in hours after sex along with a feeling of confidence,and its not overly exerting ,depending on the girlfriend....joking!
seriously though it has nothing to do with losing testosterone .

whatever.... I mean, after an hour of banging a girl, I can hardly walk to the bathroom to pee, let alone fight 12 rounds... not only that, but I would probably fall asleep afterwards and miss my scheduled fight...:yep

[theunderdog]

Here's a list of random boxing myths/misconceptions that are kind of annoying.

Marvin Hagler was a brawler.

Fernando Vargas lost to Felix Trinidad simply because he chose to brawl instead of box.

Oscar De La Hoya's corner told him to run against Trinidad.

James Toney-Michael Nunn was a "lucky punch". Toney was getting to Nunn had won the previous couple of rounds. Actually, basically any time "lucky punch" is used.

When people act like Foreman was dominating Ali before he got tired. People saying that De La Hoya "clearly sealed" the victory over Quartey in the 12th makes me want to puke. Also, when people say "all you had to do was stand up to Tyson and he'd crumble". Geez, you think these pro fighters, world class contenders, would be a little tougher than to be spelled by the magic wand of fear that Tyson waved.

"You have to take it from the champion and win impressively". No, you have to win more rounds. There's like a gazillion belts out there. "Champion" means less nowadays.


the lucky punch is indeed a myth. i thought that would be the first thing i'll see when i opened this forum topic. you just can't call a punch lucky because all boxers aim to hit their opponents. why the hell would they be called lucky if one of their punches hits the target.

not looking at the opponent while punching is most often than not the basis of some people to call shots lucky, like the one that hit fraudley. but i think it is stupid to think that! it's like a reverse dunk or a no look pass in basketball. you don't see it but you know it's there


if the fighter got pissed at the ref and tried to punch him, but ended up slipping and hitting his opponent knocking him out, then that would be a real lucky punch

[Thread Stealer]

Whitaker outclassed Chavez and made him look ordinary, one of the biggest myths of this site. I hate this stupid crap, people don't leave room to see it was clearly a draw.

Well people do exaggerate how badly Whitaker outboxed Chavez, but still, you have to be really generous to Chavez to have it a draw.

One problem was because of the 10 pt. must system. Whitaker won his rounds more clearly than Chavez did, but they weren't enough to be 10-8.

Another myth:

In the old days there was only one champion and none of the alphabet junk.

They still had some of that, it just wasn't insane like it is today.

[Rollo]

Foreman had Moorer set up for the knock out punch.

[PolishPummler]

Had it not been for the socks Pacman would have never lost to Morales!

[Boom_Boom]

Whitaker outclassed Chavez and made him look ordinary, one of the biggest myths of this site. I hate this stupid crap, people don't leave room to see it was clearly a draw.

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[brooklyn1550]

If you aren't scared of Mike Tyson, then you will beat him

[PolishPummler]

Teddy Atlas really did get that scar while fighting off 9 Ninjas on the Brooklyn bridge.

He was protecting Mike Tyson.

[RAMPAGE0017]

I always hate when people say that fighters were " never the same " after losing to a certain fighter. It's true in some cases, but people throw this around like it's nothing.

Example: Fernando Vargas was not " finished " after Trinidad beat him. There is absolutely nothing that points to such an accusation. As a matter of fact, Vargas took the loss surprisingly well, the thing that ruined Vargas was steroids. It's a well known fact that when one takes steroids and then goes off of them, your body completely shuts down, and becomes very weak. Anyone who needs proof of this only needs to have seen his fight with Fitz Vanderpool.

David Reid, on the other hand, SHOWED signs of decline in the ring after losing to Felix Trinidad.

[goldnarms]

Prime Mike Tyson could not beat Buster Douglas that night, when in fact the Mike Tyson that did showed up almost did.

Question...When Mike beat Carl Williams by TKO in the first round 7 months before the Buster fight was he in his prime?

Are you saying he all of a sudden went form dominant to shot in 7 months and a flight to Japan at the ripe old age of 24?

Goldn

[Thread Stealer]

Willie Pep won a round against Jackie Graves without throwing a punch.

[Boom_Boom]

Question...When Mike beat Carl Williams by TKO in the first round 7 months before the Buster fight was he in his prime?

Are you saying he all of a sudden went form dominant to shot in 7 months and a flight to Japan at the ripe old age of 24?

Goldn

Thats not what i meant and you are simly just trying to spin my post for your agenda....whatever that is.

Mike Tyson may have had a prime body but he didnt have a prime night, trainer change,distractions and so on.

[C Money]

1."SOME BOXERS GET STRONGER AS THE FIGHT GOES ON"

this is an irritant that pops up again and again,speak 2 any1 who knows about sports science and they will tell you categorically it is impossible.As the wise ols usa trainer luther burgess once said "the only way a fighter can get stronger is if he takes or absorbs an illegal drug between rounds."As rounds go by and punches absorbed and thrown muscles tire and lactic acid builds up,basically you get weaker,what often happens is the fighter who is in the best shape takes longer to tire so it appears that 1 boxer is getting stronger when in fact both are getting weaker but at different speeds.it only appears 1 is getting stronger,its an impossibility!.

2."YOU CANT BUILD MUSCLES ON CHINS"

actually you can!obviously not literally,but a boxer can be trained to take a better punch.All other things being equal,punch resistance relates to size.example flyweight A may own a tungsten jaw and big punch heavyweight B may be burdened with a glass jaw and feather duster punch,but if the flyweight lands his honey punch on the heavyweight,nothing will happen.vice versa though the flyweight is out for the count!
theres an obvious physiological reason for this,its not just the chin that absorbs the punch but the whole body,improving your cardio vascular fitness makes a huge difference as your ability 2 take a blow diminishes with exhaustion.strengthening neck muscles is importantas the neck is a shock absorber for the blows also strong legs help.for boxers below heavy and light heavy punch resistance is improved if they dont strain to make weightie no dehydration helps a lot very much so in later rounds.


The first is true. They dont get stronger, yet the phrase was meant for those with excellent stamina. Often when the face opponents who have less stamina, they come on as the fight lengthens, hence the phrase. You are absolutely correct though, no one's getting stronger.


The second??:lol: :lol:

Forget about it!!! Yes, conditioning will help you take more punishment, but a China Chin will always be a China Chin. Some fighters cant take punches well. Ideally you work on conditioning, defense, neck muscles, etc, but yet and still?? Certain fighters will still have a private China collection. Most Ko shots are the ones a guy doesnt see coming and if you dont have a good chin, the conditioning, strengthing, etc wont save you. Especially, if said punch, comes from someone who can CRACK.

[Illmatic]

1. That Jack dempsey is an all time great heavyweight

[BoppaZoo]

My number one myth

is that fighters do not have to fight in the USA (the mecca as they think) to make the most money for there career.

Hatton vs Mayweather at MGM Grand will probably get 18,000 yes approx we all agree with that.

If Hatton vs PBF was in th UK who here believes thay could sell out Wembley stadium which is 80,000.

I DO.

Tszyu vs Mitchell in Phoenix had 9,000 people at the fight.

Tszyu vs Lieja in Melbourne had 33,000 or something like that.

Its a myth why do people get on Calzaghe's back for fighting in the UK when its clear he gets more money fighting there and bigger crowds.

[BoppaZoo]

This is true.

But your numbers game is not always INDICATIVE of which makes more money.

The gate money is not the main money generated by a fight. It is the SITE FEE which is guranteed by the site.

Casinos in the U.S. for the most part gurantee more than other sites.

Otherwise yes having a fight where you could get the most fans to come out would make the most sense.but still if a fight is say in the UK or Australia it gets more publicity than when our guys fight overseas. More Aussies buy the PPV fights that our fought on our shores than the ones when our fighters fight in the states. Why and lets be honest the numbers probably stay the same in the USA even if the fight is overseas or on USA soil.

[BoppaZoo]

I can't argue with you. I wish the PBF-Hatton fight was happening in England. it is a much bigger fight there. The atmosphere would be much better.

I personally hate casino fights for the most part.

I just don't know if it is going to change any time soon.

I think american fighters should fight more outside of casinos but I doubt that will happen.i agree.

Bring back Madison Square Garden.
Staples Centre would be a good place aswell.

Just out of curiosity how many people does these places hold.

MGM Grand
Ceasers Palace
Mandalay Bay

[Fitir]

is that fighters do not have to fight in the USA (the mecca as they think) to make the most money for there career.
Depends who you are. Mormeck has lost big €€€ fighting in the US for King. He fights once a year for ridiculous purses... Tiozzo who came back in France obtained 3.000.000€ to fight a shot DM in Germany, Mormeck obtained 300.000€ to fight a much more dangerous Bell in the US...

[Relentless]

You must be a coach potato idiot who's never stepped into the ring or competed

the guy you are calling a couch potato is a pro boxer, he probably done more than you ever will.

[MacManJr.]

How about the myth that Floyd runs the whole fight yet somehow he always manages to land more punches than his damn opponent. Figure that one out.

[China_hand_Joe]

This is true.

But your numbers game is not always INDICATIVE of which makes more money.

The gate money is not the main money generated by a fight. It is the SITE FEE which is guranteed by the site.

Casinos in the U.S. for the most part gurantee more than other sites.

Otherwise yes having a fight where you could get the most fans to come out would make the most sense.Not many people are paying 1000$ to see Calzaghe fight in America -fullstop- Not that many would go fullstop -fullstop- He isn't Hatton and will make more in the UK -fullstop-

[Tettsuo]

Lifting weights is bad for a boxer.

Total myth. If fact the opposite is true. It just depends on how to lift weights. When you do a rep, explode it out (just remember to not lock your arms or legs) and bring it back slowly. Slow reps do not help.

[Amsterdam]

Myth - Lennox Lewis is in the top 10 HW ATG list.

[Unchained]

Tyson was only good for three rounds.:roll: :patsch When I here this, I seriously immediately stop talking to someone and tell them to concetrate on watching tennis. lol

[Thread Stealer]

"The phrase 'pound-for-pound' was created solely for Ray Robinson."

Myth.

He may have helped popularize it, but other writers had called fighters 'pound-for-pound the best' before they did Ray Robinson.

Such as Canzoneri, Fitz, etc..

[Chief_Second]

myth - max schmeling was a genuine nazi

[Chief_Second]

SRR predicted that he would kill his opponent in the ring - and it came true???!!!! too uncanny for my liking

[Stewbear]

SRR predicted that he would kill his opponent in the ring - and it came true???!!!! too uncanny for my liking

Didn't he dream it?

[JMotrain]

Manny Pac vs. anybody who has ever laced up a pair of gloves...
PAC BY KO!

[Stewbear]

Manny Pac vs. anybody who has ever laced up a pair of gloves...
PAC BY KO!

Lol yeah
he would obviously be champ in the gloveless era too

[JMotrain]

:good

I was going to say that one


I feel a lot slower after I lift weights, whether its my arms, shoulders, back, or legs.

Mosley has looked better because he has laid of lifting weights so much and he has seemed to have his speed back. I think lifting weights is bad for a boxer.

[McGrain]

I feel a lot slower after I lift weights, whether its my arms, shoulders, back, or legs.

Mosley has looked better because he has laid of lifting weights so much and he has seemed to have his speed back. I think lifting weights is bad for a boxer.


I agree, mostly.

Pulling, fine, pushing fine, but traditional resistance training with a view to bodybuilding probably isn't ideal.

The only thing I would say is that sparring has a bit of a bad rep now, and if you can learn to control weight outside of the ring then you should do it.

[brooklyn1550]

Here's one that I find exceptionally stupid:

Mike Tyson wasn't a massive puncher - he just put his punches together nicely and was fast.

[BoxingGuru]

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Vitali < 38 year old, undertrained, inactive for a year LL

Lewis always took a year off between fights. Don't make excuses for a fat lazy champion who doesn't want to train. For all you know he was in the best shape he could be in.

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Lewis always took a year off between fights. Don't make excuses for a fat lazy champion who doesn't want to train. For all you know he was in the best shape he could be in.

Lewis fought 3 times in 2000.

He fought in April 2001, November 2001, and then June 2002.

And then the Vitali Klitschko fight in June 2003.

Somehow that doesn't equal "always taking a year off between fights". It's a few months each fight, and 7 months for the Tyson fight, which was delayed 2 months when they looked for a place to fight when Tyson was denied a license in Nevada. It was originally scheduled for April 2002, but got delayed 2 months.

It's Lewis's fault he was lazy, but he STILL beat Vitali.

And even Vitali admitted that Lewis wasn't in that good of shape.