if cotto - mosley is really set i'm comin to america babyy!!! [Archive]

Scar

07-26-2007, 11:56 AM

Mosley's not KOing anybody. If he wins it will be by a decision.

Trust me he has a very good chance to do it here. Cotto's chin isn't great and he can be hurt, Mosley hits pretty hard too but the reason why he hasn't knocked out a lot lately is because he fought very good fighters.

Relentless

07-26-2007, 11:59 AM

Trust me he has a very good chance to do it here. Cotto's chin isn't great and he can be hurt, Mosley hits pretty hard too but the reason why he hasn't knocked out a lot lately is because he fought very good fighters.

and cotto is a great fighter :good

Scar

07-26-2007, 12:03 PM

and cotto is a great fighter :good

So is Mosley, and we all know that Mosley only fights great fighters. :good

Relentless

07-26-2007, 12:05 PM

no doubt! mosley could have taken a 3rd fight with de la hoya and make big money but he decided to give winky wright a shot when no one else would, pure class!

Scar

07-26-2007, 12:07 PM

no doubt! mosley could have taken a 3rd fight with de la hoya and make big money but he decided to give winky wright a shot when no one else would, pure class!

Indeed.

Marnoff

07-26-2007, 12:10 PM

Hmm, when Floyd-Mosley is discussed, people say Mosley is post-prime and that Floyd is "cherry-picking".

Caper

07-26-2007, 12:12 PM

Relent

If you do come to NY I'll get you a Henny at the bar on me.

Relentless

07-26-2007, 12:12 PM

Hmm, when Floyd-Mosley is discussed, people say Mosley is post-prime and that Floyd is "cherry-picking".

no one said that fool, infact people want mosley - pbf more than any other fight, show proof or fuck off.

Relentless

07-26-2007, 12:19 PM

cool. you can stay with me :oops:

errrrrrrrr............ thanks but i think i'll be alright

Druid

07-26-2007, 12:19 PM

Hmm, when Floyd-Mosley is discussed, people say Mosley is post-prime and that Floyd is "cherry-picking".

Good point!

Druid

07-26-2007, 12:21 PM

i wouldn't miss this for the world, my 2 favourite fighters, this is going to be fight of the millenium!!!

:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy

You ever been to the States before?

Relentless

07-26-2007, 12:21 PM

Good point!

why dont you show me who said it huh??

you wont because no one did, everyone wants to see mosley vs pbf, the only reason mosley is fighting cotto is because he couldn't get a shot at mayweather, people were saying he is cherry picking to fight hatton.

Relentless

07-26-2007, 12:21 PM

You ever been to the States before?

once but i was very young.

Kostya Zoo

07-26-2007, 12:21 PM

errrrrrrrr............ thanks but i think i'll be alright

ahahahahaha

Druid

07-26-2007, 12:28 PM

why dont you show me who said it huh??

you wont because no one did, everyone wants to see mosley vs pbf, the only reason mosley is fighting cotto is because he couldn't get a shot at mayweather, people were saying he is cherry picking to fight hatton.

I actually assume the person I quoted had researched this, I personally couldn't be bothered my bollox doing so but I would be surprised if someone didn't. All of the time I see contradictory statements like that posted here. no matter how logical something being stated is or how definitive a decision someone wins by you will almost always see the contrary argument being made here.

I don't think Mosley is a cherry pick for anyone and might actually have the best chance of beating PBF Mayweather of any of the top welters, I certainly think the Mosley who beat DLH (fight #1) would beat him. Mosley seems slower recently and I give Cotto the slight edge over him in a very difficult fight for Cotto which could easily go either way.

Marnoff

07-26-2007, 12:28 PM

no one said that fool, infact people want mosley - pbf more than any other fight, show proof or fuck off.

You haven't seen this before? Nice try.

Marnoff

07-26-2007, 12:30 PM

I actually assume the person I quoted had researched this, I personally couldn't be bothered my bollox doing so but I would be surprised if someone didn't. All of the time I see contradictory statements like that posted here. no matter how logical something being stated is or how definitive a decision someone wins by you will almost always see the contrary argument being made here.

I don't think Mosley is a cherry pick for anyone and might actually have the best chance of beating PBF Mayweather of any of the top welters, I certainly think the Mosley who beat DLH (fight #1) would beat him. Mosley seems slower recently and I give Cotto the slight edge over him in a very difficult fight for Cotto which could easily go either way.

No need to dig up evidence, he knows it's true. So does anyone who has followed the topics.

Edit: For instance, if I said, "Margarito got sent to the back of the soup kitchen line, again, by Paul Williams," I wouldn't need to go to provide articles and whatnot, because everyone knows it's true.

Marnoff

07-26-2007, 12:35 PM

Point is Shane is more active and a bigger threat then Dela hoya is.

Floyd is calling out Hatton...

MArgarito just lost, Williams just fought..

Actually, Hatton has been calling out Floyd and Floyd has answered that call, but however you want to put it.

Jose FM

07-26-2007, 12:50 PM

no doubt! mosley could have taken a 3rd fight with de la hoya and make big money but he decided to give winky wright a shot when no one else would, pure class!
I agree, however he got a way too proud and would not take less money than DLH, I mean only a crazy person would turn down$12 USD for $2 USD. Think about it.:think

Fab2333

07-26-2007, 12:50 PM

Shane by way of knock out.
:deal:thumbsup
i agree here, Cotto's chin is kind of suspect, Zab rocked him 2 or 3 times in that fight. couldve knocked him out. But smothered his punches and let Cotto back in the fight. Shane Mosley is a smarter fighter than Zab, I think he can knock COtto out.
BUt i wont count out Cotto neither, b/c even though Shanne is a smarter fighter than Zab, I see a tendency in Shane that whenever things arent going quite as planned he gets flustured and gets out his groove. (WInky Wright)
If he comes in there with the same attitude as Zab, thinkin he will jus do a one hitter quitter. I think the tables can turn in Cotto's favor.
But with that being said, I still have SHane wininng. IMO

Fab2333

07-26-2007, 12:53 PM

really soup kitchen?

Marg GETS 10x MORE CREDIT for that loss then Floyd gets for ALL his wins at WELTER.

Carlito keep dreaming. Margo, is trash. He stepped up in class for once, and lost to a B class fighter. CAnt see how you defend him. And the thing about it is, he got beat byu his own game.
Margo couldve won that fight if he took advantages of PW's mistakes. But he is so limited that he couldnt. Margo sucks, and will never be able 2 beat a fighter like Floyd, or Mosley, PW lol.

Jose FM

07-26-2007, 12:54 PM

:deal:thumbsup
i agree here, Cotto's chin is kind of suspect, Zab rocked him 2 or 3 times in that fight. couldve knocked him out. But smothered his punches and let Cotto back in the fight. Shane Mosley is a smarter fighter than Zab, I think he can knock COtto out.
BUt i wont count out Cotto neither, b/c even though Shanne is a smarter fighter than Zab, I see a tendency in Shane that whenever things arent going quite as planned he gets flustured and gets out his groove. (WInky Wright)
If he comes in there with the same attitude as Zab, thinkin he will jus do a one hitter quitter. I think the tables can turn in Cotto's favor.
But with that being said, I still have SHane wininng. IMO
Seriously i dont get this assesment of Cotto, yes hes been hurt in fights, but has never loss, and has gotten up from the canvas and knocked those fighters that have traded with him. Mosley doesnt have the power to knockout Cotto. My heart says Mosley will win, my brains picking Cotto though.

Relentless

07-26-2007, 12:57 PM

You haven't seen this before? Nice try. actually no i haven't instead of twisting and turning why dont you actually do what i asked you to do and show me some evidence jerkoff? just wait for his reply it will be another one of those 'dont act like you dont know' or 'i dont have to find evidence i am right nice try' bullshit i dont remember anyone saying mosley is a cherry picked opponent thats hatton, mosley has been wanting to fight floyd and all the floyd haters were well up for that fight, so dont even try to change shit around, nice try though, maybe you can get one of your fuck buddies to help you out next time.

Relentless

07-26-2007, 01:00 PM

No need to dig up evidence, he knows it's true. So does anyone who has followed the topics.

Edit: For instance, if I said, "Margarito got sent to the back of the soup kitchen line, again, by Paul Williams," I wouldn't need to go to provide articles and whatnot, because everyone knows it's true. what does that have to do with anything?? if i am not mistaken you are the guy that used to come on the training section that used to try convince everyone to do plyometrics for endurance, right?

Fab2333

07-26-2007, 01:08 PM

what fighters at welter do you think can beat PW?

waiting..

Floyd, SHane, COtto, COllazo, my dude Steve Forbes could get off in him. PW is a decent fighter, he can get better no doubt. But he makes a lot of mistakes.

Fab2333

07-26-2007, 01:10 PM

Seriously i dont get this assesment of Cotto, yes hes been hurt in fights, but has never loss, and has gotten up from the canvas and knocked those fighters that have traded with him. Mosley doesnt have the power to knockout Cotto. My heart says Mosley will win, my brains picking Cotto though.

You are right, but the difference is, Mosley is not like any fighter Cotto has ever faced be4. If Zab was able to rock him, then im sure Mosley can. He has about the same amount of speed and power. But he is a smarter fighter than Zab, is why I say that. DOnt get me wrong Cotto still has a good chance of winning, like I said if Mosley goes in their with the attitude that Zab did. Then he will be in for a rude awakening

Fab2333

07-26-2007, 01:14 PM

LOL..
wats so funny about that. PW made a lot of mistakes in the fight with Margo, And Margo could have won if he capitalized. PW's face was right there to hit, But Margo hands is slow is why he couldnt really connect. And Being that he is tall, more elusive fighters should be able to bang his body easier, to slow him down for the later rounds.
All the fighters i listed can beat him

Jose FM

07-26-2007, 02:11 PM

You are right, but the difference is, Mosley is not like any fighter Cotto has ever faced be4. If Zab was able to rock him, then im sure Mosley can. He has about the same amount of speed and power. But he is a smarter fighter than Zab, is why I say that. DOnt get me wrong Cotto still has a good chance of winning, like I said if Mosley goes in their with the attitude that Zab did. Then he will be in for a rude awakening
Yeah, but it was a basically a shut out, Zab won two rounds, and was getting killed. Now Mosley is no doubt a better fighter but Zab is no walk in the park either.

Fab2333

07-26-2007, 02:14 PM

Yeah, but it was a basically a shut out, Zab won two rounds, and was getting killed. Now Mosley is no doubt a better fighter but Zab is no walk in the park either.

I can agree with that. I am still picking Mosley to win the fight though. But I agree it wont be easy

Druid

07-26-2007, 02:20 PM

wats so funny about that. PW made a lot of mistakes in the fight with Margo, And Margo could have won if he capitalized. PW's face was right there to hit, But Margo hands is slow is why he couldnt really connect. And Being that he is tall, more elusive fighters should be able to bang his body easier, to slow him down for the later rounds.
All the fighters i listed can beat him

I agree. Had this been a 15 rounder i think Margo would have won it. It took him too long to adjust to PW style, he lost the fight in the early rounds and then not continuing his assault into the 12th. PW did a good job of recovering but I don't believe his stamina was there for 15, neither was Margos apparently as he didn't fight consistently. Cotto wouldn't stop throwing from round one and PW would wear down much faster from the incoming in general and to the body in particular. I also think Cotto has much faster hands than Margo.

Fab2333

07-26-2007, 02:25 PM

I agree. Had this been a 15 rounder i think Margo would have won it. It took him too long to adjust to PW style, he lost the fight in the early rounds and then not continuing his assault into the 12th. PW did a good job of recovering but I don't believe his stamina was there for 15, neither was Margos apparently as he didn't fight consistently. Cotto wouldn't stop throwing from round one and PW would wear down much faster from the incoming in general and to the body in particular. I also think Cotto has much faster hands than Margo.

yup, most definately. THats what i am tryin 2 explain to Mr. Carlito. But he has jumped off the MArgarito banwagon. to PW's jus b/c his boy got beat by him. So now he is plugging him as this unbeatable Welterweight

Vantage_West

07-26-2007, 02:43 PM

Druid

07-26-2007, 03:05 PM

the reason why zab didnt ko cotto was becuase of his conditioning, stamina and ring rust

now while mosley hasnt been very active he did outbox collazo who gave hatton a very tough time. not like zabs journeyman fight after a year and a bit.

his speed is incredible his power is note worthy and has great ring skills and savy
zab who almost knocked cotto out and gave him real trouble was in the end just tired and fell apart...never have i seen mosley fall apart and never have i seen him give up.

mosley by ud with a knockdown

Calling Zab stopping Cotto in his tracks a couple of times nearly knocking him out is far from accurate. If he didn't connect with a couple of good shots Zab wouldn't be a good fighter and he is. The truth is that Cotto dominated Zab in this fight, he had a very few good moments but other than that it was pretty much all Cotto. You make it sound like Zab got tired and fell apart because he didn't get enough sleep the night before. Zab got tired and fell aprt becuae of the relentless pressure and attack from Cotto. Now, I don't think Mosley will be as easy a time for Cotto, but the only thing you could logically deduce from the Judah fight is that Cotto will be a very rough time for Mosley. I like both of these guys a lot and will be please for whomever wins and sorry fo the loser. However, I think Cotto is entering his prime and Mosley has already exited his. So, if Mosley wins I will give him all of the praise he deserves based on what I have just said.