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It seems whenever there is a thread about Hatton and Fliyd, someone brings up hatton rejecting the fight before, labeling it as "ducking". This to me sounds ridiculous.
When a fight with Hatton in England was mentioned, despite it meaning more money for Floyd, he rejected it. The reasn being that he didn't want to fight over here, and if that's fine, why does Hatton get shit for not wanting to fight in America back then? The fight should happen, and to ensure it does, it should be where the most money will be made. That's in England.
Floyd didn't want to fight Hatton in England, and forced him out of an American fight by asking for an insane percentage of the money.
Then of course we have Margarito. When his name is brought up now, people say "Williams beat him, so Mayweather would have too". Prior to Williams/Margo however, Floyd was afraid of Margarito. he ducked him shamelessly. It's not like the Hatton fight where money and location was an issue, margo offered a better deal than PBF could have got at the time, and insead, he took on an easy opponent for less money.
So if Hatton is going to ge shit for not accepting a bullshit offer, why shouldn't Floyd for doing the same, and also being a bitch when it came to Margo?
Hatton said he wasnt ready for Mayweather, thats why they blast him. Period. It had nothing to do with purse or location. There are interviews all around the internet where Hatton admits it too. Floyd nuthuggers are just as ignorant as Floyd haters, but on this issue Hatton bitches out worse than Mosely last november saying "he needed his tooth to heal". Boxingtalk has that video in it's archives as well.
Jose FM
07-26-2007, 03:11 PM
Mister Ciani, explains floyds cherrypicking to a tee, and floyd nuthuggers never mention how Hatton is the easier fight for the so called p4p [Only registered and activated users can see links]
K0NPHL1C7
07-26-2007, 03:14 PM
Floyd, being the #1 P4P fighter in the world, has every right to choose when, where, and under what conditions he fights. Hatton, being a mauling chump with down syndrome, hasn't even earned the right to dicate what color trunks he wears.
Jose FM
07-26-2007, 03:17 PM
Floyd, being the #1 P4P fighter in the world, has every right to choose when, where, and under what conditions he fights. Hatton, being a mauling chump with down syndrome, hasn't even earned the right to dicate what color trunks he wears.
Major hypocrisy and hatin' going on here.
DanePugilist
07-26-2007, 03:26 PM
Floyd, being the #1 P4P fighter in the world, has every right to choose when, where, and under what conditions he fights. Hatton, being a mauling chump with down syndrome, hasn't even earned the right to dicate what color trunks he wears.Your brain does not conflict with your posting ability. Both are hollow and without meaning.
Smazz20
07-26-2007, 03:28 PM
Floyd, being the #1 P4P fighter in the world, has every right to choose when, where, and under what conditions he fights. Hatton, being a mauling chump with down syndrome, hasn't even earned the right to dicate what color trunks he wears.
Moron, the sooner rejects like you start to realise that p4p rankings mean fuck all, the better boxing will be.
Floyd left business at 140 in the shape of the UNDISPUTED champ. Ricky Hatton.
Thread Stealer
07-26-2007, 03:55 PM
Would a fight in England REALLY mean more money than Vegas?
Can a place like Wembley outbid the site fee that a casino would make, when the live gate is only a part of the money the casino makes during the weekend of a big fight?
Bazooka
07-26-2007, 03:55 PM
Not Floyd fans, But FLoyd nut huggers are
Thread Stealer
07-26-2007, 03:57 PM
Most boxing fans appear to be hypocrites, and whiners as well.
sandwichsurgeon
07-26-2007, 04:01 PM
Your brain does not conflict with your posting ability. Both are hollow and without meaning.
You're right bro (never thought i'd say that about a Dane but oh well)
:yep
Cabannaro
07-26-2007, 04:05 PM
This fight should not be held in England for the same reasons KT shouldn't have fought there. It's just ridiculous to allow fucks like Dave Parris to referee the championship fights.
Hatton was fairly judged in USA in Collazo and Urango fights, and he even still gets away with quite much dirty tactics. He can't complain that he could be judged or refereed unfavourably in US.
Next, the PBF is the only top guy who's size and power are not excessive for Ricky. He will be destroyed by most of WW elite including Cotto, Cintron, Margarito, Mosely, Williams. So he has to take PBF on his terms if he REALLY wants to get a win over ELITE fighter in his PRIME. BTW, Floyd already has such wins - over Corrales and Castillo.
Cabannaro
07-26-2007, 04:21 PM
because Floyd fans are hypocrites
And Tony is not :lol:
He is just a sore loser who lost the HUGE payday against Cotto because he was bitching about PBF aiming at Oscar unstead of MARGARITO!!!
:patsch
DoumB
07-26-2007, 04:57 PM
Floyd, being the #1 P4P fighter in the world, has every right to choose when, where, and under what conditions he fights. Hatton, being a mauling chump with down syndrome, hasn't even earned the right to dicate what color trunks he wears.
and thats where it gets funny, WTF are u fuckin talking about? PBF is soon to be bumped out of P4P number 1, and it has nothing to do with being P4P, on the exact opposite, ur the n1 in the world? then STFU and prove it and stop acting like a bitch,.
DanePugilist
07-26-2007, 05:02 PM
You're right bro (never thought i'd say that about a Dane but oh well)
:yepOn the 3rd of November you will see that danes have been right all along:cool:.
Mister Ciani, explains floyds cherrypicking to a tee, and floyd nuthuggers never mention how Hatton is the easier fight for the so called p4p [Only registered and activated users can see links]
How can you call Floyd fan hypocrites and floyd Cherry picking , when in the past floyd has gone out of his way to get both , shane and Cotto in the ring ?
Even now Bob or Cotto have said nothing of pitting Cotto against Floyd Nothing .. The media presented the fight with cotto to floyd not Arum, and who to say Arum would except the fight even today he hasn't in the past.
But now that Cotto , and shane is mention in the same breath as Floyd he ducking them ? man give me a break ,, I like shane but shane could have fought Floyd while he was still young and Arum flat out said Cotto was not ready for Floyd and now hear we are 5 yr later and floyd is the one doing the ducking ??? palease ..
As it look right now Hatton waiting for floyd to turn 35 before he fights him.
Floyd was fighter coming up from 130 challenging the bigger 140 fighters in Hatton , cotto and shane and none them said a got dame thing!!!
Fab2333
07-26-2007, 06:10 PM
How can you call Floyd fan hypocrites and floyd Cherry picking , when in the past floyd has gone out of his way to get both , shane and Cotto in the ring ?
Even now Bob or Cotto have said nothing of pitting Cotto against Floyd Nothing .. The media presented the fight with cotto to floyd not Arum, and who to say Arum would except the fight even today he hasn't in the past.
But now that Cotto , and shane is mention in the same breath as Floyd he ducking them ? man give me a break ,, I like shane but shane could have fought Floyd while he was still young and Arum flat out said Cotto was not ready for Floyd and now hear we are 5 yr later and floyd is the one doing the ducking ??? palease ..
As it look right now Hatton waiting for floyd to turn 35 before he fights him.
Floyd was fighter coming up from 130 challenging the bigger 140 fighters in Hatton , cotto and shane and none them said a got dame thing!!!
:thumbsup
Toopretty
07-26-2007, 06:44 PM
How can you call Floyd fan hypocrites and floyd Cherry picking , when in the past floyd has gone out of his way to get both , shane and Cotto in the ring ?
Even now Bob or Cotto have said nothing of pitting Cotto against Floyd Nothing .. The media presented the fight with cotto to floyd not Arum, and who to say Arum would except the fight even today he hasn't in the past.
But now that Cotto , and shane is mention in the same breath as Floyd he ducking them ? man give me a break ,, I like shane but shane could have fought Floyd while he was still young and Arum flat out said Cotto was not ready for Floyd and now hear we are 5 yr later and floyd is the one doing the ducking ??? palease ..
As it look right now Hatton waiting for floyd to turn 35 before he fights him.
Floyd was fighter coming up from 130 challenging the bigger 140 fighters in Hatton , cotto and shane and none them said a got dame thing!!!
Good post..they had a shot..Cotto could of been had floyd...Floyd was pursuing shane like a bloodhound the same time margarito was sniffling up floyds ass. But Shane is excused for not fighting floyd, however floyd ducked the less known Cintron only beating margarito at the time.
igotJUIC3
07-26-2007, 06:55 PM
You people need to chill out...nobody is ducking anyone the shit takes time they all have offered each other a shot but it didnt happen for THEIR own reasons doesnt mean none are ducking...the fights will happen but dayum give it TIME!
Like someone said earlier ALOT of people on here are hypocrites and the fact that MOST if not all of you voice your opinions from your feelings and not your mind make most your opinions not worth two pennies if you started using your brains and not your feelings you would see that no one is ducking anyone so give the ducking bullshyt a break.
igotJUIC3
07-26-2007, 06:56 PM
and thats where it gets funny, WTF are u fuckin talking about? PBF is soon to be bumped out of P4P number 1, and it has nothing to do with being P4P, on the exact opposite, ur the n1 in the world? then STFU and prove it and stop acting like a bitch,.
by who??? the ONLY way he loses his P4P standing is at a loss.
psychopath
07-26-2007, 07:00 PM
Floyd, being the #1 P4P fighter in the world, has every right to choose when, where, and under what conditions he fights. Hatton, being a mauling chump with down syndrome, hasn't even earned the right to dicate what color trunks he wears.
Shit buddy . . . you should be ashamed of yourself. :huh
Your face and your idol's face seems to be thick as a brick wall. :yep
psychopath
07-26-2007, 07:02 PM
by who??? the ONLY way he loses his P4P standing is at a loss.
Right! That's why he picks his opponents. :yep :D :lol:
The clown won't fight anybody who has at least a good chance of beating him. :good
Toopretty
07-26-2007, 07:02 PM
I agree juice..All this ducking bullshit...you dont fight everbody that calls your name..."Hey I want to fight you" "OK..its on" lol boxing dont work like that..Look how long it takes fighters to fight the fighter they always wanted to fight..Tarver/Jones...Mayweather/Delahoya...You dont have to be a genius to know exposure and fame brings the money...Nobody is chomping down wanting to fight boxings unmarketable...no matter how good they are..thats just the game..
Toopretty
07-26-2007, 07:06 PM
Right! That's why he picks his opponents. :yep :D :lol:
The clown won't fight anybody who has at least a good chance of beating him. :good
Judah had chance..per majority of ESB for the last year ODH had a chance....Corrales had a chance....Castillo had 2 chances...I mean every fighter that steps in to the ring has a chance..Just b/c he didnt fight WHO YOU THINK can beat him dont mean shit..For every reason you say your superfighter can beat him another can say reasons why they would just be #39. He fought alot of risky fighters that he was not guaranteed to win..Even great fighters lose to a lucky bum once in a while..:deal:deal
igotJUIC3
07-26-2007, 07:06 PM
Right! That's why he picks his opponents. :yep :D :lol:
The clown won't fight anybody who has at least a good chance of beating him. :good
Why do you say he wont fight anybody when he has offered to fight most except Margo.
Toopretty
07-26-2007, 07:08 PM
So...Cintron called Floyd out..is floyd ducking him...lol..
psychopath
07-26-2007, 07:10 PM
I agree juice..All this ducking bullshit...you dont fight everbody that calls your name..."Hey I want to fight you" "OK..its on" lol boxing dont work like that..Look how long it takes fighters to fight the fighter they always wanted to fight..Tarver/Jones...Mayweather/Delahoya...You dont have to be a genius to exposure and fame brings the money...Nobody is chomping down wanting to fight boxing unmarketable...no matter how good they are..thats just the game..
Well you don't have to be a genius to understand that fighters at the top 5 of the list are are not just anybody. And who has Floyd fought in the top 5? He has only three fights at 147; Mitchel; Judah and Baldomir. :D
What a shame. :rofl
psychopath
07-26-2007, 07:12 PM
So...Cintron called Floyd out..is floyd ducking him...lol..
If it's not ducking what will you call that? :D Bum or not Cintron is a belt holder.
Being the #1 P4P fighter he should prove his worth inside the ring not by his big mouth.
BigReg
07-26-2007, 07:13 PM
Well you don't have to be a genius to understand that fighters at the top 5 of the list are are not just anybody. And who has Floyd fought in the top 5? He has only three fights at 147; Mitchel; Judah and Baldomir. :D
What a shame. :rofl
Are you talking about the top 5 p4p fighters, or the top 5 fighters at WW? I dobt you're talking about the top 5 p4p fighters, so if you're talking about the top 5 WW Judah and Baldomir were both top 5 when Floyd fought them.
igotJUIC3
07-26-2007, 07:13 PM
If it's not ducking what will you call that? :D Bum or not Cintron is a belt holder.
Being the #1 P4P fighter he should prove his worth inside the ring not by his big mouth.
so every fighter who chooses to fight someone else is ducking?
psychopath
07-26-2007, 07:14 PM
Judah had chance..per majority of ESB for the last year ODH had a chance....Corrales had a chance....Castillo had 2 chances...I mean every fighter that steps in to the ring has a chance..Just b/c he didnt fight WHO YOU THINK can beat him dont mean shit..For every reason you say your superfighter can beat him another can say reasons why they would just be #39. He fought alot of risky fighters that he was not guaranteed to win..Even great fighters lose to a lucky bum once in a while..:deal:deal
When was the Corrales fight? When was the Castillo fight? I'm talking now that he is already the number 1 p4p. :yep
psychopath
07-26-2007, 07:18 PM
Are you talking about the top 5 p4p fighters, or the top 5 fighters at WW? I dobt you're talking about the top 5 p4p fighters, so if you're talking about the top 5 WW Judah and Baldomir were both top 5 when Floyd fought them.
Yes the top five fighters at welters rightnow. Cotto, Mosley, Cintron, Williams etc etc.
Judah and Baldomir might be top 5 by then but these fighters are not serious threat skills wise.
Point is he has to prove he's worth to be called no 1. :yep
psychopath
07-26-2007, 07:21 PM
so every fighter who chooses to fight someone else is ducking?
Fighters cannot chose all the time buddy. They have mandatories and they have responsibilities to the fans.
If you are the number 1 fighter then you have the responsibility to prove you deserve that title otherwise you don't get respect just like what's happening to him rightnow.
BigReg
07-26-2007, 07:21 PM
Yes the top five fighters at welters rightnow. Cotto, Mosley, Cintron, Williams etc etc.
Judah and Baldomir might be top 5 by then but these fighters are not serious threat skills wise.
Point is he has to prove he's worth to be called no 1. :yep
None of those guys have fought eachother. The only one Floyd had an opportunity to fight that he didn't capitalize on was recently with Shane.
igotJUIC3
07-26-2007, 07:24 PM
Fighters cannot chose all the time buddy. They have mandatories and they have responsibilities to the fans.
If you are the number 1 fighter then you have the responsibility to prove you deserve that title otherwise you don't get respect just like what's happening to him rightnow.
he gets respect but like ALL #1's there are some who say otherwise and you are Floyd's otherwise....i think he deserves it...acccomplishing what he has whether you like it or not he deserves and the only other to beat him out for #1 is B-Hop
psychopath
07-26-2007, 07:26 PM
None of those guys have fought eachother. The only one Floyd had an opportunity to fight that he didn't capitalize on was recently with Shane.
Why is it a prerequisite for these guys to fight each other first?
Margo and Williams has just fought. Cintron wants Mosley. But it looks like Mosley is getting fighting Coto.
These fighters wants to prove themselves and are willing to fight each other . . . now where's the no 1 fighter? :D See what I mean?
igotJUIC3
07-26-2007, 07:27 PM
Why is it a prerequisite for these guys to fight each other first?
Margo and Williams has just fought. Cintron wants Mosley. But it looks like Mosley is getting fighting Coto.
These fighters wants to prove themselves and are willing to fight each other . . . now where's the no 1 fighter? :D See what I mean?
why cant floyd fight Hatton?
Would a fight in England REALLY mean more money than Vegas?
Can a place like Wembley outbid the site fee that a casino would make, when the live gate is only a part of the money the casino makes during the weekend of a big fight?
The money a casino makes isn't enough for them to outbid what a fight in Wembley could make for the fighters.
A fight in the UK would sell 70,000 to 90,000 tickets. Especially if it had a good undercard with someone like Khan or another big name fighter.
psychopath
07-26-2007, 07:30 PM
he gets respect but like ALL #1's there are some who say otherwise and you are Floyd's otherwise....i think he deserves it...acccomplishing what he has whether you like it or not he deserves and the only other to beat him out for #1 is B-Hop
I'm a Floyd fan but not a nuthugger. He became the no 1 P4P fighter by staying undefeated while getting 6 divisional titles. But he did that by making shortcuts. Fighting a few fights in a division then go up immediately to the next? :yep
What else can he do now but to fight all these top 5 challengers and shut them up.
igotJUIC3
07-26-2007, 07:35 PM
I'm a Floyd fan but not a nuthugger. He became the no 1 P4P fighter by staying undefeated while getting 6 divisional titles. But he did that by making shortcuts. Fighting a few fights in a division then go up immediately to the next? :yep
What else can he do now but to fight all these top 5 challengers and shut them up.
I dont disagree but REALITY is this those top 5 wont be the same because they will lose, secondly if he was to fight all top five man that would take forever because they are ALL difficult matches im sure he will need time in between fights...which means others will fight which means rankings will change and SOME will be exposed for what they really are.....PBF is going to take on another P4P top ten who some say he should fight i think he should Hatton has been runnin his pie whole for a long time who wouldnt want to shut him up. I think PBF will fight these fighters but TIME has to take its course....5 top fighters come on...no way that happens within 2 years let alone 1 like so many are anxious to see him do..its like people want him to sign fights back to back to back...its just not gonna happen.
BigReg
07-26-2007, 07:37 PM
Why is it a prerequisite for these guys to fight each other first?
Margo and Williams has just fought. Cintron wants Mosley. But it looks like Mosley is getting fighting Coto.
These fighters wants to prove themselves and are willing to fight each other . . . now where's the no 1 fighter? :D See what I mean?
When was it feasible for him to fight any of those guys, besides Shane?
psychopath
07-26-2007, 07:39 PM
why cant floyd fight Hatton?
Of course he can . . . why not. It depends if they could strike an agreement. Problem is it's not gonna help PBF boost his stature at the top post. Just read this (taken as part of the article in ESB main page)
" Floyd Mayweather Junior is a name often mentioned as a potential foe for both Mosley and Cotto. At this time, it appears Mayweather has no interest in fighting either. Instead, Mayweather is apparently seeking a bout with a naturally smaller and less talented boxer in Ricky ‘The Hitman’ Hatton. Not to take anything away from Hatton, who clearly lacks the size to compete amongst the welterweight elites, but for Floyd, he represents the path of least resistance. Apparently, the pound-for-pound king is too concerned about losing the ‘zero’ in his unblemished record, or perhaps he’s holding out for more money. In either case, it’s clear he isn’t seeking out the best available challenges—something Mosley and Cotto have both been proactive about throughout."
Who's getting moire respect? Hatton is just a money fight and PBF has done noting recently to prove he is no 1. :yep
psychopath
07-26-2007, 07:42 PM
I dont disagree but REALITY is this those top 5 wont be the same because they will lose, secondly if he was to fight all top five man that would take forever because they are ALL difficult matches im sure he will need time in between fights...which means others will fight which means rankings will change and SOME will be exposed for what they really are.....PBF is going to take on another P4P top ten who some say he should fight i think he should Hatton has been runnin his pie whole for a long time who wouldnt want to shut him up. I think PBF will fight these fighters but TIME has to take its course....5 top fighters come on...no way that happens within 2 years let alone 1 like so many are anxious to see him do..its like people want him to sign fights back to back to back...its just not gonna happen.
Yes it might take forever but at least start a serious negotiation against one two of them. Instead of looking and negotiating for other fights. Has his team done that?
psychopath
07-26-2007, 07:47 PM
When was it feasible for him to fight any of those guys, besides Shane?
Now! His fight with Hatton is not 100% yet. He can negotiate with Cintron or Williams if he's REALLY interested. He should forget about money now and do something that will inprove his image as the no 1 p4p.
igotJUIC3
07-26-2007, 07:52 PM
Now! His fight with Hatton is not 100% yet. He can negotiate with Cintron or Williams if he's REALLY interested. He should forget about money now and do something that will inprove his image as the no 1 p4p.
CINTRON?? and the names just keep piling up.
psychopath
07-26-2007, 08:00 PM
CINTRON?? and the names just keep piling up.
Cintron is in the top 5 because he is a belt holder at welter. What's wrong with you? :huh
Here's the top six from Fightnews: (Just for the sake of arguement)
1. PBF
2. Cotto
3. Mosley
4. Cintron
5. Williams
6. Margarito
:yep
BigReg
07-26-2007, 08:01 PM
Now! His fight with Hatton is not 100% yet. He can negotiate with Cintron or Williams if he's REALLY interested. He should forget about money now and do something that will inprove his image as the no 1 p4p.
I would love to see him fight Williams or Cintron. But you can't expect someone to turn down a fight 10+ million dollar fight with Hatton to take less money to fight lesser known, lesser regarded men. Floyd gets more money, and more recognition for fighting Hatton rather than Cintron and Williams. Most boxings would much rather see him fight Hatton.
If it's not ducking what will you call that? :D Bum or not Cintron is a belt holder.
Being the #1 P4P fighter he should prove his worth inside the ring not by his big mouth.
This is a Floyd hater In your previous post you blast PBF for fighting Zab (beltholder) and Baldmior(WW Undisputed Champ) and now you are saying bum or not Kermit Cintron is a beltholder so Floyd should fight him. If PBF whips his ass you will be say the samething you say about Zab and Baldo
igotJUIC3
07-26-2007, 08:05 PM
Cintron is in the top 5 because he is a belt holder at welter. What's wrong with you? :huh
Here's the top six from Fightnews: (Just for the sake of arguement)
1. PBF
2. Cotto
3. Mosley
4. Cintron
5. Williams
6. Margarito
:yep
If you think he should fight Cintron because he has a belt then your thought process is way off then i thought.
psychopath
07-26-2007, 08:08 PM
I would love to see him fight Williams or Cintron. But you can't expect someone to turn down a fight 10+ million dollar fight with Hatton to take less money to fight lesser known, lesser regarded men. Floyd gets more money, and more recognition for fighting Hatton rather than Cintron and Williams. Most boxings would much rather see him fight Hatton.
I know buddy . . . $10 mil is 10$ mil :D but as I have mentioned it's not 100% yet at this point so if it's not pushing through he his team can negotiate with Williams or Cintron instead of remaining idle and dishing out craps that these 2 fighters doesn't deserve him.
I the truth is I don't see him losing . . . I just wanted to see him establish his name as a true p4p no 1 fighter.
psychopath
07-26-2007, 08:13 PM
If you think he should fight Cintron because he has a belt then your thought process is way off then i thought.
Well maybe we're coming in from a different point of view.
As a true boxing fan . . . how would the no 1 fighter prove he is number 1? By fighting other belt holders! Your thought of process is way off not mine. :D
People cannot assume Cotto, Mosley, Cintron Williams or the others will lose to PBF. We have to see it! Don't get loss in the HYPE. :yep
What's wrong in him fighting the number 4 man in the list?
igotJUIC3
07-26-2007, 08:20 PM
Well maybe we're coming in from a different point of view.
As a true boxing fan . . . how would the no 1 fighter prove he is number 1? By fighting other belt holders! Your thought of process is way off not mine. :D
People cannot assume Cotto, Mosley, Cintron Williams or the others will lose to PBF. We have to see it! Don't get loss in the HYPE. :yep
What's wrong in him fighting the number 4 man in the list?
Mosley resume doesnt need mentioning
Cotto fought same fighters as PBF and a pretty solid resume...no losses
Williams undefeated blasted Margo
Cintron...loss to Margo....but the loss alone doesnt mean too much seeing how his resume doesnt even compare to the rest! Nor has he beaten anyone significant as the others...please he shouldnt even be mention to gith PBF...i wouldnt even put him before Margo.
Well maybe we're coming in from a different point of view.
As a true boxing fan . . . how would the no 1 fighter prove he is number 1? By fighting other belt holders! Your thought of process is way off not mine. :D
People cannot assume Cotto, Mosley, Cintron Williams or the others will lose to PBF. We have to see it! Don't get loss in the HYPE. :yep
What's wrong in him fighting the number 4 man in the list?
How are you a true boxing fan. In your previous post on the second page you blast PBF for fighting Zab (beltholder) and Baldmior(WW Undisputed Champ) and now you are saying bum or not Kermit Cintron is a beltholder so Floyd should fight him and whats wrong with him fighting the #4 on your list and when PBF whips there ass you will be say the samething you say about Zab and Baldo. This is a real hypocrite right here.
psychopath
07-26-2007, 08:30 PM
Mosley resume doesnt need mentioning
Cotto fought same fighters as PBF and a pretty solid resume...no losses
Williams undefeated blasted Margo
Cintron...loss to Margo....but the loss alone doesnt mean too much seeing how his resume doesnt even compare to the rest! Nor has he beaten anyone significant as the others...please he shouldnt even be mention to gith PBF...i wouldnt even put him before Margo.
Buddy questioning a fighters resume is a "bullshit" for me. That's lame arguement.
Who has Pacquaio fought for him to get a crack at MAB's P4P title? He has 3 loses already at that point. Who has Taylor fought for him to deserve at shot at Bhops undisputed title? Who has Valero fought for him to deserve at crack at Mosquera's title? Baldo lost 8 times before he got a crack at Zab became a linear champ. And ZAB? He lost to Baldomir so how can PBF still fight him?. . . And the list goes on. :yep
The fact of the matter is Cintron to who ever he lost won a belt and is now number 4.
Toopretty
07-26-2007, 08:31 PM
Yeah Pyschopath, I mean I lost some battles but you are losing the war..lol......I mean If floyd was a welter weight for at least half his career and not just 3 years or less you may have a point. But a fighter the moved up 5 weight classes does not have time to fight #3 and 4 all the time. Just moving up and beating a champion whether they be the perfect fighter(none are) or whoever..Just look at Tony Margarito for example. He moved up one class to fight an ordinary champion and lost..Floyd moved up 5 times and won...Split desc a great fighter weighing 149 pounds for a 154 pd. Fight talking about handicap..The guy is fighting handicapped fights against solid great fighters that are not THAT PAST there prime as others would think b/c that same fighter will still knock out half the division easy..the other half probably get knocked out but not as easy..
igotJUIC3
07-26-2007, 08:38 PM
Buddy questioning a fighters resume is a "bullshit" for me. That's lame arguement.
Who has Pacquaio fought for him to get a crack at MAB's P4P title? He has 3 loses already at that point. Who has Taylor fought for him to deserve at shot at Bhops undisputed title? Who has Valero fought for him to deserve at crack at Mosquera's title? Baldo lost 8 times before he got a crack at Zab became a linear champ. And ZAB? He lost to Baldomir so how can PBF still fight him?. . . And the list goes on. :yep
The fact of the matter is Cintron to who ever he lost won a belt and is now number 4.
No your not listening...CINTRON has done NOTHING...if you read the post i say the loss doesnt mean near as much as his resume which he has not done anything to deserve a shot....like i said Mosley,Cotto, and Williams all have fought top comp and won...Cintron fought Margo got blasted...end of story thats it the end...doesnt mean he doesnt have promise which he does but a right to fight the #1 guy...on what grounds....he has no ammo to shoot for that...the others do.
psychopath
07-26-2007, 08:43 PM
Yeah Pyschopath, I mean I lost some battles but you are losing the war..lol......I mean If floyd was a welter weight for at least half his career and not just 3 years or less you may have a point. But a fighter the moved up 5 weight classes does not have time to fight #3 and 4 all the time. Just moving up and beating a champion whether they be the perfect fighter(none are) or whoever..Just look at Tony Margarito for example. He moved up one class to fight an ordinary champion and lost..Floyd moved up 5 times and won...Split desc a great fighter weighing 149 pounds for a 154 pd. Fight talking about handicap..The guy is fighting handicapped fights against solid great fighters that are not THAT PAST there prime as others would think b/c that same fighter will still knock out half the division easy..the other half probably get knocked out but not as easy..
Losing the war? :D What war? Are you taking it personally?
3 years at welter? You're not including 140 are you? We are talking of 147 not junior or light welter. He fought Mitchell on Nov 19, 2005; Judah on April 6, 2006 and Baldo on Nov 4 2006.
Well I don't arguement on him not having the time to fight no 3's and 4's because he moved up so fast. My only point is now that he has relinguished his 154 title and stayed at 147 he better start fighting all the top 147 fighters around him or otherwise stayed retired instead of dishing out craps that these fighters don't deserve him. :yep
Simple point . . . don't make it complicated.
Toopretty
07-26-2007, 08:48 PM
Thats even worse.lol..your whole argument is that he didnt fight the top 5 guys that would give him a challenge..He fought 2 at 2 years as a welter..lol and the champ at 154....I guess he is just slacking off...lol...He dont have time to clean out a division b/c only guys who dont have the skill to move up have to do that..MORE respect to a fighter coming from superfeather to fight guys naturally bigger..not THESE SHRUNKEN MIDDLEWEIGHTS LIKE WILLIAMS AND MARGARITO..Who come in to fights 10 pounds or more every single fight...
psychopath
07-26-2007, 08:50 PM
No your not listening...CINTRON has done NOTHING...if you read the post i say the loss doesnt mean near as much as his resume which he has not done anything to deserve a shot....like i said Mosley,Cotto, and Williams all have fought top comp and won...Cintron fought Margo got blasted...end of story thats it the end...doesnt mean he doesnt have promise which he does but a right to fight the #1 guy...on what grounds....he has no ammo to shoot for that...the others do.
:nono Nah nah nah IT'S you who is not listening nor reading . . . I said questioing the guy's resume is lame.
You cannot say he has done or accomplished nothing because he worked and earned his belt. You didn't read all the examples I gave you? Read it again.
And Williams? Has he fought top competition? He only fought Marg.:D
Fab2333
07-26-2007, 08:51 PM
And Williams? Has he fought top competition? He only fought Marg.:D
:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:thumbsup
psychopath
07-26-2007, 08:57 PM
Thats even worse.lol..your whole argument is that he didnt fight the top 5 guys that would give him a challenge..He fought 2 at 2 years as a welter..lol and the champ at 154....I guess he is just slacking off...lol...He dont have time to clean out a division b/c only guys who dont have the skill to move up have to do that..MORE respect to a fighter coming from superfeather to fight guys naturally bigger..not THESE SHRUNKEN MIDDLEWEIGHTS LIKE WILLIAMS AND MARGARITO..Who come in to fights 10 pounds or more every single fight...
You're not a real boxing fan buddy. A champ at 154 or chump? DLH became a HYPE champ through a blown up welter in Mayo:D :lol: Damn dude that does it. You're insulting Marg and Margarito just to justify PBF. :rofl
Live with it dude . . . bottom line PBF needs to fight these top 147 lbers WHO EVER THEY MAYBE or he can stay retired. :yep
psychopath
07-26-2007, 09:03 PM
This is a Floyd hater In your previous post you blast PBF for fighting Zab (beltholder) and Baldmior(WW Undisputed Champ) and now you are saying bum or not Kermit Cintron is a beltholder so Floyd should fight him. If PBF whips his ass you will be say the samething you say about Zab and Baldo
Hey . . . hey. . .hey BLAST? Read that post again. I'm citing that as an example why we shouldn't be questioning the fighters resume.
Learn to read and understand before you get in the middle of arguements dumbass.:yep
I'm not a PBF HATER . . . I'm a PBF FAN who simply wanted to see floyd clean out his competition at 147.:bbb
Lance_Uppercut
07-26-2007, 11:10 PM
The tennybopper Floyd fans here are perhaps the DUMBEST and most hypocritical wannabe knowitall idiots on the board. Say something bad about Floyd, they cry about disrespect. Yet when it's another boxer, many are just plain DICKS and have no problem insulting. They think becuase they love floyd, they LOVE the sweet science more then anyone. Probably why most are on Spinks' dick as well. You know those smug dicks love their own farts as well.
Hell, Radar used to KISS MY ASS royally, then when I became critical of Floyd, I magically turned into the worst poster ever. Fuckin nuthuggers....
Lance_Uppercut
07-26-2007, 11:13 PM
Floyd, being the #1 P4P fighter in the world, has every right to choose when, where, and under what conditions he fights. Hatton, being a mauling chump with down syndrome, hasn't even earned the right to dicate what color trunks he wears.
YOu have GOT to be a faggot with that kind of man-love you show. Grow some balls, or at least take Floyds outta your mouth little boy.:good
Cabannaro
07-27-2007, 01:09 AM
he got paid more for the Williams fight donkey..:roll:
75% of the purse goes to the title holder..
bye now :hi:
Fuck you very much, bitch.
These 75% amounted to $1.2m, while he was offered $2.4m for Cotto.
Try to compare figures, not splits, dumbhead.
nothings changed! they still are.
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