Cotto vs Margarito. Instant classic?

[Mendoza]

I just watched Cotto vs Margarito. My thoughts are this is an instant classic. Great comptetive fight. A super skilled boxer puncher vs a super durable aggressive pressure fighter.

[Rebel-INS]

It was a very good fight, and will probably go down as a classic due to it being Mexico vs Puerto Rico.

[TIGEREDGE]

classic. the best welterweight fight since mosley dlh in 2000


not as great as some of the fights between latinos fighters in recent times

[warrior85]

definetly

[McGrain]

I agree with you. I think instant classic is exactly what it is.

I also think that Margarito's performance was one of the best of this decade, if not the best. He broke a classy box-puncher who was known as a heart-breaker himself. Extraordinary.

Margarito is limited. I don't expect him to go unbeaten. But he was absolutely astonishing against Cotto.

[PowerPuncher]

Not in the league of Barrera-Morales 1 or 2 or 3 for that matter. I personally thought Mayweather-Hatton was a better fight. Good fight though

[Loewe]

I agree with you. I think instant classic is exactly what it is.

I also think that Margarito's performance was one of the best of this decade, if not the best. He broke a classy box-puncher who was known as a heart-breaker himself. Extraordinary.

Margarito is limited. I don't expect him to go unbeaten. But he was absolutely astonishing against Cotto.

Just to mention a few better performances:
- Hopkins-Trinidad
- Wright-Trinidad
- Calzaghe-Lacy
- Hopkins-Tarver
- Wright-Mosley
- Calzaghe-Kessler
- PBF-Hatton
- PBF-Corrales
and so on. It is up there but not the best.

[McGrain]

Just to mention a few better performances:
- Hopkins-Trinidad.

Why is Hopkins perfomance against a smaller puncher better than a pressure fighter finding a way to break a box-puncher within the ten round limit for heart?

[Jack]

Just to mention a few better performances:
- Hopkins-Trinidad
- Wright-Trinidad
- Calzaghe-Lacy
- Hopkins-Tarver
- Wright-Mosley
- Calzaghe-Kessler
- PBF-Hatton
- PBF-Corrales
and so on. It is up there but not the best.
The winner of every one of those fights is the better fighter though. Margarito probably isn't, which is why his performance should be considered better.

It's like Frazier vs. Ali. Had Ali won the first fight by the same margin Frazier did, it wouldn't have been considered as great a win as Frazier's, because Ali is the better of the two. So Frazier winning was worth more because he should have lost.

Margarito should also have lost to Cotto.

[Loewe]

Why is Hopkins perfomance against a smaller puncher better than a pressure fighter finding a way to break a box-puncher within the ten round limit for heart?

The difference is the quality of the fighters, Trinidad proved that he was great. Cotto hasn´t. Also Trinidad wasn´t smaller. Hopkins weighed in at a lower weight than Trinidad. If you say Trinidad was smaller than Hopkins than Cotto was also smaller as Margo. And then Hopkins performance was far more dominant than Margo´s over a greater opponent. How can´t it be a better?

[Loewe]

The winner of every one of those fights is the better fighter though. Margarito probably isn't, which is why his performance should be considered better.

It's like Frazier vs. Ali. Had Ali won the first fight by the same margin Frazier did, it wouldn't have been considered as great a win as Frazier's, because Ali is the better of the two. So Frazier winning was worth more because he should have lost.

Margarito should also have lost to Cotto.

Well, the opponent in most of these fights is also better than Cotto. That balances it out. I don´t say it wasn´t a great performance by Margo but it wasn´t the best of this decade.

[McGrain]

The difference is the quality of the fighters, Trinidad proved that he was great. Cotto hasn´t. Also Trinidad wasn´t smaller. Hopkins weighed in at a lower weight than Trinidad. If you say Trinidad was smaller than Hopkins than Cotto was also smaller as Margo. And then Hopkins performance was far more dominant than Margo´s over a greater opponent. How can´t it be a better?

Trinidad is a natural welter who made limited impact at middle. What is more he was a puncher stepping up in weight versus a granite chined champion.

To be clear - Cotto is the better fighter at welterweight, as compared to his contempories, than Trinidad was at middleweight, compared to his contempories

Margarito was a pressure fighter in against a more mobile fighter who was a better composite puncher and had already proven his heart. Within the twelve round limit he broke the superior fighter, the more skilled fighter. He forced that proffessional to take to his knees rather than continue in the fight.

It was the perfect execution of that style in a set of circumstances which were not becoming to that style. Absolutely extraordinary.

[carras]

it was very good, but i don't think it was that great.

[Ted Spoon]

A needed breath of fresh air for the time; an excellent fight, not a classic.

[TIGEREDGE]

Not in the league of Barrera-Morales 1 or 2 or 3 for that matter. I personally thought Mayweather-Hatton was a better fight. Good fight though

are you having a fucking joke? Mayweather Hatton was not boxing it was wrestling

[Loewe]

Trinidad is a natural welter who made limited impact at middle. What is more he was a puncher stepping up in weight versus a granite chined champion.

To be clear - Cotto is the better fighter at welterweight, as compared to his contempories, than Trinidad was at middleweight, compared to his contempories

Margarito was a pressure fighter in against a more mobile fighter who was a better composite puncher and had already proven his heart. Within the twelve round limit he broke the superior fighter, the more skilled fighter. He forced that proffessional to take to his knees rather than continue in the fight.

It was the perfect execution of that style in a set of circumstances which were not becoming to that style. Absolutely extraordinary.

Well, Trinidad wasn´t a natural welter when he faced Hopkins anymore. He was fighting for years at jmw and proved his worth at mw by knocking out the number 2 mw in Joppy. Additionally he was the heavy favourite against Hopkins, i don´t know the odds for the Margo-Cotto fight but i doubt Cotto was as big of an favourite. So, while Cotto was seen as the number one ww facing the number three. Trinidad was the number two facing the number one and was the favourite in the fight. There is not much between them. Well, Hopkins is far greater than Margo but he wasn´t seen like that at the time of the Hopkins-Trinidad fight.

I agree with the rest of your post.

[Hatesrats]

Instant!!! Mexico Vs. Puerto Rico classic
Add right along side, Chavez, Sanchez, Gomez, Zarate, Benitez, Palomino ect...

Cotto & Margarito are now Icon's.

[Mendoza]

Not in the league of Barrera-Morales 1 or 2 or 3 for that matter. I personally thought Mayweather-Hatton was a better fight. Good fight though

Mayweather vs Hatton a better fight? Not a chance, unless you absolutely cannot stand Hatton.

Cotto vs Margarito was a match with two prime fighters from different nationalites, and different styles.

If must have been Ali vs Frazier in Mexico or Puerto.

The story of the fight to me was Margarito's undomindable will, and durability. Cotto was the stronger puncher, the better boxer, and the faster boxer by a good margin, but he just could not deter Margarito, and was mentally / physcially broken down by a harder man.


Speaking of Mayweather, I honestly think he wants no part of Margarito. I believe that then, and after Margarito’s recent performance, I believe it even more now.


If Mayweather wants to win over his toughest critics, he takes a match with Margarito and guts out a win.

[Marciano Frazier]

Two dangerous, elite fighters in their primes get in the ring with each other with a whole lot of chips on the table and give it everything they've got in the ring. Mix in some national pride, a compelling contrast in styles and a gutsy, entertaining come-from-behind upset knockout, and I agree, you've got yourself a modern classic. All credit to both of these guys for being willing to take such a fight, and, although Margarito deserves recognition for being an absolute warrior who will fight anyone, special credit to Cotto for being willing to take on a guy in Margarito who it seems a lot of the other marquee fighters rather sidestep. Great performance and great story on the side of Margarito, finally getting the big fight and the big win in such iconic fashion after all these years.

[Mendoza]

Two dangerous, elite fighters in their primes get in the ring with each other with a whole lot of chips on the table and give it everything they've got in the ring. Mix in some national pride, a compelling contrast in styles and a gutsy, entertaining come-from-behind upset knockout, and I agree, you've got yourself a modern classic. All credit to both of these guys for being willing to take such a fight, and, although Margarito deserves recognition for being an absolute warrior who will fight anyone, special credit to Cotto for being willing to take on a guy in Margarito who it seems a lot of the other marquee fighters rather sidestep. Great performance and great story on the side of Margarito, finally getting the big fight and the big win in such iconic fashion after all these years.

I'd like to see a re-match. I think Cotto could win it, but he would need to learn how to clinch and tie his man up a bit.