View Full Version : Michael Katsidis vs Ricky Hatton?
llcolj
07-26-2007, 06:17 PM
Thought id start of my first post with this,
i believe this would be a classic and both have power, cut like mad and dont give up..
future fight maybe?
elias
07-26-2007, 06:28 PM
Katsidis should stay at Lightweight and hone his skills to go with his undoubted power and entertainment value.
Hatton is too good for Katsidis.
tays001
07-26-2007, 06:32 PM
he should stay a light weight
Marnoff
07-26-2007, 06:35 PM
Hatton, big time.
brooklyn1550
07-26-2007, 06:38 PM
Entertaining fight, but Katsidis is best suited for 135. At 140, Hatton would bust him up.
mightyd40
07-26-2007, 06:55 PM
katsidis and his elbows would still get his ass kicked by hatton.....i really dont like this guy
Snorkel
07-26-2007, 07:18 PM
Katsidis and Hatton both like a tear up, but Hatton's the bigger man in this fight and has more experience, better skills, better speed and a proven chin at 140. Katsidis is going to lose a boxing match or a brawl and most likely get stopped in the process. I think it's far more likely that Hatton's proven power at 140 will crack Katsidis' unproven at 135 chin than the other way around. Unfortunately for Mike, stopping Hatton is the only way I could see him winning. In other words, it ain't gonna happen.
aliwasthegreatest
07-26-2007, 07:22 PM
hatton is better in about every way.
joe33
07-26-2007, 07:23 PM
katsidis and his elbows would still get his ass kicked by hatton.....i really dont like this guy
Can i ask why mate?,he may not be the best,but is hugely entertaining,and just damn fun to watch,im suprsied people dont like him more,or is it just becaues you prefer to see a more skilled type fighter:think
mightyd40
07-26-2007, 07:34 PM
Can i ask why mate?,he may not be the best,but is hugely entertaining,and just damn fun to watch,im suprsied people dont like him more,or is it just becaues you prefer to see a more skilled type fighter:think
i agree that his style is entertaining but i just dont like how he thinks hes the greatest thing out there when his style consist of mauling and elbowing. i will watch his fights and probably be entertained everytime but cant appreciate his aggresivness as i do say...miguel cotto. he will get beat by juan diaz in my opinion too
CarltonBlues
07-26-2007, 08:00 PM
Hatton would just tie him up and wear him down like he does in all his fights.
joe33
07-26-2007, 08:02 PM
i agree that his style is entertaining but i just dont like how he thinks hes the greatest thing out there when his style consist of mauling and elbowing. i will watch his fights and probably be entertained everytime but cant appreciate his aggresivness as i do say...miguel cotto. he will get beat by juan diaz in my opinion too
Yeah he does seem to think hes the main guy,but i dont think thats a bad thing for a boxer,as long as they dont go over board,you gotta have some ego to get in a ring,to pump yourself up,but i understand where your coming from.
Cruiser1
07-26-2007, 08:14 PM
It doesn't seem like Hatton is so willing to throw down anymore. He makes his fights ugly now. A lot of hitting and holding.
Either way, I'd love to see him in there against Katsidis.
psychopath
07-26-2007, 08:16 PM
Thought id start of my first post with this,
i believe this would be a classic and both have power, cut like mad and dont give up..
future fight maybe?
Hatton will punish and bloodied Kats more than what Amonsot did before he finally knocks him out. 140 is Hatton's turf.:D
Forget it dude!
Dr Gonzo
07-26-2007, 08:21 PM
katsidis and his elbows would still get his ass kicked by hatton.....i really dont like this guy
what dont you like? im not having a go at you - just curious :huh
i agree that his style is entertaining but i just dont like how he thinks hes the greatest thing out there when his style consist of mauling and elbowing. i will watch his fights and probably be entertained everytime but cant appreciate his aggresivness as i do say...miguel cotto. he will get beat by juan diaz in my opinion too
His style doesn't not consist of mauling and elbowing. I love it how people come on here and just make things up to sound good. He never clinches like hatton and keeps a tight guard in close. This is a very tough fight for both guys. Kat has the power while Hatton has the stamina. Kat is a solid inside fighter and this would be an absolute war. LMAO at people calling Katsidis a mauling fighter in a thread mentioning Hatton.
Hatton will punish and bloodied Kats more than what Amonsot did before he finally knocks him out. 140 is Hatton's turf.:D
Forget it dude!
Amonsot is a totally different fighter to Hatton. Hatton isn't a puncher and Katsidis has shown no signs of a suspect chin. Katsidis is a big guy for 135 and I have no doubt what so ever that he could move up a mere 5 pounds with ease. This fight would be great.
Hatton isnt a puncher? so who was that pale looking guy who knocked out Jose Luis Castillo in a single punch?
So your basing your opinion on ONE FIGHT? LMAO AT YOU! I can't believe you are trying to argue that Hatton is a puncher. He beats guys through an accumulation of punishment, not one punch KO power.
joe33
07-26-2007, 09:39 PM
Why do people feel the need to call others on here a clown just becasue they disagree with them???
Manners are not a hard thing to use,i disagreed with mightyd40,but aint gonna jump all over him about it,its his opinion,seems a real nasty lack of respect of late in these here forums.
I aint that perfect myself (believe it or not LOL),but off late have decided to be play nice and fair,i think we all should do the same unless of course someones trolling the posts,then they deserve nothing but hate on there arses.
Toopretty
07-26-2007, 09:42 PM
Hatton is not a puncher..he landed the perfect punch at the perfect time..never happend before..probably wont happen again..the punch wasnt even all that hard....it was well timed and on the right spot....to the body when castillo did not see it...HATTON IS NOT A BIG PUNCHER...COTTO is a puncher..hatton is a swarmer....he swarms guys muscles them around the ring..takes them out of the fight mentally with his physical strength..And that guy is katsadis is a beast...he is a smart ass fighter if you look at the timed counter punches that he landed he set traps for the other dude..he mixes it up...he can go in and get dirty and go on the outside and T off on you...I think Mike has a shot....he got the punch and the timing..and he is very physically strong though one problem...THE OTHER GUY DID NOT THROW ONE SINGLE BODY SHOT..ME AND MY BROTHER WAS LAUGHING AT THAT. I AM TALKING NOT ONE IN LIKE 3 ROUNDS STR8...MAYBE B/C HE WAS TARGETING THE EYE..BUT STILL..YOU GOT TO MIX IT UP..
psychopath
07-26-2007, 09:42 PM
Amonsot is a totally different fighter to Hatton. Hatton isn't a puncher and Katsidis has shown no signs of a suspect chin. Katsidis is a big guy for 135 and I have no doubt what so ever that he could move up a mere 5 pounds with ease. This fight would be great.
Yes Hatton is not a puncher and yet his punches is much powerful than Amonsot. The K.O. percentage comparison between the two should prove that. Bro. what ever Amonsot can do . . . Hatton can do it better . . . in fact in all aspect of the game.
That's just my line of arguement here.
Anyway . . . like you said that's gonna be one hell of war. :yep
:patsch
Tell me, Who did foreman ever knock out in a single punch?
Your comparing Hatton to Foreman. ROFL LMAO. Best thing I have heard all day. How do Hattons balls taste mate.
hitman_hatton1
07-26-2007, 09:45 PM
hatton in about 6 rds.
very one sided fight though.
Yes Hatton is not a puncher and yet his punches is much powerful than Amonsot. The K.O. percentage comparison between the two should prove that. Bro. what ever Amonsot can do . . . Hatton can do it better . . . in fact in all aspect of the game.
That's just my line of arguement here.
Anyway . . . like you said that's gonna be one hell of war. :yep
Agreed that Hatton is a class above Amonsot, although I think Amonsot wasn't a light puncher by any means. I think Hatton wins this as well, I woudl just be suprised if he KO's Katsidis. I think it will be a bloody war all the way. I hope this happens down the track.
Hatton is not a puncher..he landed the perfect punch at the perfect time..never happend before..probably wont happen again..the punch wasnt even all that hard....it was well timed and on the right spot....to the body when castillo did not see it...HATTON IS NOT A BIG PUNCHER...COTTO is a puncher..hatton is a swarmer....he swarms guys muscles them around the ring..takes them out of the fight mentally with his physical strength..And that guy is katsadis is a beast...he is a smart ass fighter if you look at the timed counter punches that he landed he set traps for the other dude..he mixes it up...he can go in and get dirty and go on the outside and T off on you...I think Mike has a shot....he got the punch and the timing..and he is very physically strong though one problem...THE OTHER GUY DID NOT THROW ONE SINGLE BODY SHOT..ME AND MY BROTHER WAS LAUGHING AT THAT. I AM TALKING NOT ONE IN LIKE 3 ROUNDS STR8...MAYBE B/C HE WAS TARGETING THE EYE..BUT STILL..YOU GOT TO MIX IT UP..
Good post.
Toopretty
07-26-2007, 09:47 PM
The thing is...amonstot was a sharp quick puncher that can let off COMBINATIONS and fight backing up..They are two things hatton cannot do..fight backing up(not saying he would have to) and throw quick combos...hatton is one and done...Hit..hold..repeat...may put two punches together if you get lazy and dont keep your guard up....no comparison...Amonstot was on his toes..hatton is never on his toes and his footwork is as goofy as I have ever seen ...he is off rythm and that may be the secret to his success..lol..
Why do people feel the need to call others on here a clown just becasue they disagree with them???
Manners are not a hard thing to use,i disagreed with mightyd40,but aint gonna jump all over him about it,its his opinion,seems a real nasty lack of respect of late in these here forums.
I aint that perfect myself (believe it or not LOL),but off late have decided to be play nice and fair,i think we all should do the same unless of course someones trolling the posts,then they deserve nothing but hate on there arses.
Fair enough it just really annoys me when a great down to earth guy like Katsidis who has a very exciting fighting style gets put down by people for things that don't even happen. He said how arrogant he is and it is complete rubbish. He is very down to earth, and if you listened to interviews with him you would realise he is probably one of the most likeable guys in boxing. They say he fights with elbow and mauling and it doesn't even happen. I hate it when people have to make things up to form an opinion, because if someone hasn't seen Katsidis and reads it they are lead to believe that he may fight this way, which as I said is not true one bit.
Toopretty
07-26-2007, 10:09 PM
Fair enough it just really annoys me when a great down to earth guy like Katsidis who has a very exciting fighting style gets put down by people for things that don't even happen. He said how arrogant he is and it is complete rubbish. He is very down to earth, and if you listened to interviews with him you would realise he is probably one of the most likeable guys in boxing. They say he fights with elbow and mauling and it doesn't even happen. I hate it when people have to make things up to form an opinion, because if someone hasn't seen Katsidis and reads it they are lead to believe that he may fight this way, which as I said is not true one bit.
The guy is a sharp puncher..he uses in right hand how cintron does now..in a variety.lol...Elbows..who the hell said elbows...what the crap....Marciano threw bows[Only registered and activated users can see links] dont throw no elbows....WOW...that is dillusional :bart
mightyd40
07-26-2007, 11:03 PM
His style doesn't not consist of mauling and elbowing. I love it how people come on here and just make things up to sound good. He never clinches like hatton and keeps a tight guard in close. This is a very tough fight for both guys. Kat has the power while Hatton has the stamina. Kat is a solid inside fighter and this would be an absolute war. LMAO at people calling Katsidis a mauling fighter in a thread mentioning Hatton.
he is a mauling fighter and i never said hatton wasnt. i think hatton will win because he seems bigger and better overall. my post was about my reasoning for not liking him, which stems from his attitude and his elbows. read into it a little more before u accuse me of trying to "sound good"
rodney
07-26-2007, 11:17 PM
Katsidis vs. Hatton ?????
Who has Katsidis beat ???
I think he loses to Juan Diaz.
El Bombasto
07-26-2007, 11:17 PM
Katsidis should stay at Lightweight and hone his skills to go with his undoubted power and entertainment value.
Hatton is too good for Katsidis.
Too big is more accurate
he is a mauling fighter and i never said hatton wasnt. i think hatton will win because he seems bigger and better overall. my post was about my reasoning for not liking him, which stems from his attitude and his elbows. read into it a little more before u accuse me of trying to "sound good"
You are insinuating that he holds and elbows and is a dirty fighter, when in reality he doesn't hold, and doesn't elbow. I think you are looking for reasons that aren't there not to like him as a fighter, and I also think your comments are not warranted. WHere do you get the idea that he is arrogant from? Have you ever heard him in an interview being arrogant? NO. You just made it up, exactly like the other two points.
Katsidis vs. Hatton ?????
Who has Katsidis beat ???
I think he loses to Juan Diaz.
As do I. Still doesn't stop me from thinking this is a good match up though if it ever did happen.
Awesome picture TooPretty. That elbow was nasty. Jeff Fenech used to throw a nasty elbow as well. I remeber his fight with Zaragoza had more elbows then punches haha.
theunderdog
07-27-2007, 12:01 AM
amonsot is not even a power puncher and look what he did to katsidis' face. hatton tko on cuts
Well, name me a true foreman one punch icing. You can't because foreman clubbed people into submission, Rick hatton mauls them into submission, But they both can punch, and both have power. You're just being rediculous.
One its ridiculous. Two what about the Michael Morrer KO. One of the most famous in history. What about how he knocked down Joe Frazier who had a great chin 6 times in 2 rounds. I can't believe you are trying to compare the two. I am going to do a poll on this see who agrees with you. ROFL.
Jason997
07-27-2007, 12:23 AM
For a real life Rocky situation -- Katsidis vs. Mayweather at 140. Of course I know who would win, but it would be interesting to watch the beating :)
- Jason
For a real life Rocky situation -- Katsidis vs. Mayweather at 140. Of course I know who would win, but it would be interesting to watch the beating :)
- Jason
Thats just cruel. You must really have it in for him. Although that said I don't think he could possibly do worse then Gatti.
Being a big Katsidis fan I would say he gets stopped by Hatton. Hatton, although not over skilled would just wear down Kat and stop him. I am quite sure of this outcome.
DanePugilist
07-27-2007, 12:38 AM
Is it here, that I am supposed to say that Ricky Hatton is the one-punch p4p king?
BoppaZoo
07-27-2007, 12:40 AM
all im going to say is Katsidis should wait untill Ricky is old and past his prime like what Hatton does to his opponents.
Run Ricky Run. How many times can Hatton aviod PBF and Witter.
all i will say you wouldnt see Katsidis doing that. yet you dont like Katsidis well i say at least he isnt a chicken.
all im going to say is Katsidis should wait untill Ricky is old and past his prime like what Hatton does to his opponents.
Run Ricky Run. How many times can Hatton aviod PBF and Witter.
all i will say you wouldnt see Katsidis doing that. yet you dont like Katsidis well i say at least he isnt a chicken.:yep:yep
Joe frazier has a VERY shaky chin, he was out on his feet against oscar Bonavena who did not have much power and was rocked by Ali, who was a mediocre puncher at best. and yet, foreman couldnt knock him out, the best he could do is just keep clubbing him and knocking him down. Moorer has pure china for a chin and was put down by a combination.
You're so fucking dense that you don't even get where my comparison is coming from, This is why i stay in the classic forum so i don't have to deal with bullshit like this.
Please stay there. You are a dead set clown if you think Hatton is a puncher and you need help if you think he is a puncher on the level of Foreman. Moorer was KO'd by ONE RIGHT HAND. Not a combination. I could say Castillo was KO'd by a combination if you want to use that logic. As i said earlier one lucky punch doesn't define a fighters whole career. Foreman was a bruatal puncher who knocked out a tonne of guys and knocked down even more often multiple times. hatton wears guys down with his workrate. End of discussion.
Further more Foreman and Hatton are NOTHING alike in style, as Foremand relied on his POWER while Hatton relies on his workrate. I can't believe I am having this arguement.
DanePugilist
07-27-2007, 02:11 AM
Further more Foreman and Hatton are NOTHING alike in style, as Foremand relied on his POWER while Hatton relies on his workrate. I can't believe I am having this arguement.Those arguements are not worth shit in the classical forum. Foreman failed to KO Ali - and Hatton KO'd Castillo - therefore Hatton is p4p one punch KO artist. Simple classical logic.
Those arguements are not worth shit in the classical forum. Foreman failed to KO Ali - and Hatton KO'd Castillo - therefore Hatton is p4p one punch KO artist. Simple classical logic.
hahaha. Thats scary. That is why I stay well away from the classical section. On a side note, I don't know if its just me, but hypothetical match ups that will never ever take place between retired fighters are always the stupidest. There is never any way one side can convince the other that their arguement is correct, and it is about as fun as banging your head against a brick wall. Not to mention that people always dramtically over rate the fighting prowess of the olden day fighters.
DanePugilist
07-27-2007, 02:25 AM
I totally agree with all you just said - therefore I never post in the classical forums, and very rarely in the hypothetical threads and as you say, fighters of the past are so legendary in peoples minds - probably simply because there is no way to prove it wrong, since they don't fight anymore.
And I bet that most people thinks that if they approve of fighters of yesteryears, then they are knowledgable of boxing.
SouthLondonsFinest
07-27-2007, 03:01 AM
all im going to say is Katsidis should wait untill Ricky is old and past his prime like what Hatton does to his opponents.
Run Ricky Run. How many times can Hatton aviod PBF and Witter.
all i will say you wouldnt see Katsidis doing that. yet you dont like Katsidis well i say at least he isnt a chicken.
hahaha, how the fuck do you know? Kats has fought Graham Earl and some Filipino. We`ll see if/when he steps it up.
Hatton whould brutalise Katsidis.
hahaha, how the fuck do you know? Kats has fought Graham Earl and some Filipino. We`ll see if/when he steps it up.
Hatton whould brutalise Katsidis.
Urango isn't much and hadn't beaten anyone, and I wouldn't say he "brutalized" him.
I totally agree with all you just said - therefore I never post in the classical forums, and very rarely in the hypothetical threads and as you say, fighters of the past are so legendary in peoples minds - probably simply because there is no way to prove it wrong, since they don't fight anymore.
And I bet that most people thinks that if they approve of fighters of yesteryears, then they are knowledgable of boxing.
The last bit of your post is gospel. My exact thoughts. Glad to see that someone else is on the same wavelength.
SouthLondonsFinest
07-27-2007, 03:11 AM
Urango isn't much and hadn't beaten anyone, and I wouldn't say he "brutalized" him.
He was till he got caught by that body shot, was boxing beautifully b4 that. Everyone has off days son, im all for Katsidi doing well, but everyone is jumping the gun just a little.
He was till he got caught by that body shot, was boxing beautifully b4 that. Everyone has off days son, im all for Katsidi doing well, but everyone is jumping the gun just a little.
I never said he could beat Hatton. Just think it would be a great fight and a bloody war. Hatton would win but the power of kat would make it interesting, and I know he would get the chance with a fighter like Hatton to land more then his fair share of punches.
elias
07-27-2007, 04:57 AM
If Earl could hurt Katsidis.........................
BoppaZoo
07-27-2007, 05:49 AM
hahaha, how the fuck do you know? Kats has fought Graham Earl and some Filipino. We`ll see if/when he steps it up.
Hatton whould brutalise Katsidis.all i will say is Katsidis lined up a fight with a Prime Joan Guzman and Guzman pulled out.
and there are huge talks going on between Juan Diaz and Katsidis for a fight after Juan Diaz vs Julio Diaz. Now to me that is not backing away from anyone. and those two fighters right there are Prime guys.
Im not saying Katsidis would win but there is one thing he has and Ricky hasnt got Balls. and Rocky has massive ones.
You have to remember it wasnt him that pulled out of the Guzman fight.
SouthLondonsFinest
07-27-2007, 05:57 AM
all i will say is Katsidis lined up a fight with a Prime Joan Guzman and Guzman pulled out.
and there are huge talks going on between Juan Diaz and Katsidis for a fight after Juan Diaz vs Julio Diaz. Now to me that is not backing away from anyone. and those two fighters right there are Prime guys.
Im not saying Katsidis would win but there is one thing he has and Ricky hasnt got Balls. and Rocky has massive ones.
You have to remember it wasnt him that pulled out of the Guzman fight.
ricky hatton hasn`t got balls?
Rickys got blood and guts determination when in the ring.
U call having balls getting his face bashed up?
SouthLondonsFinest
07-27-2007, 06:00 AM
If Earl could hurt Katsidis.........................
exactly, it doesn`t bode well for the future.
Very good action packed fight, not too good for Katsidis since Hatton will knock him out within 6 rounds.
BoppaZoo
07-27-2007, 06:05 AM
ricky hatton hasn`t got balls?
Rickys got blood and guts determination when in the ring.
U call having balls getting his face bashed up?how many times on one hand can you count him pulling out against Witter and PBF.
SouthLondonsFinest
07-27-2007, 06:07 AM
hes never pulled out of a fight with either
BoppaZoo
07-27-2007, 06:09 AM
you know what i mean (when will Ricky be ready probably never)no im not ready no im not ready. well when will you be ready Ricky when PBF is retired or when Witter is 36.
SouthLondonsFinest
07-27-2007, 06:14 AM
PBF comes down to money, so far hbosn has offerd £5million, $10million dollars PBF and that aint enuff. And ricky said he wants the same money as PBF will get so......
Yeah I want Witter /Hatton too be great over here, but I dont think its anything to do with Ricky "ducking" him..
How ever u lot like to say "Tsyzu was shot , which nobody, Imean nobody was saying before the fight, a over the hill tsyzu is still better than witter same goes for Castillo.
BoppaZoo
07-27-2007, 10:17 AM
PBF comes down to money, so far hbosn has offerd £5million, $10million dollars PBF and that aint enuff. And ricky said he wants the same money as PBF will get so......
Yeah I want Witter /Hatton too be great over here, but I dont think its anything to do with Ricky "ducking" him..
How ever u lot like to say "Tsyzu was shot , which nobody, Imean nobody was saying before the fight, a over the hill tsyzu is still better than witter same goes for Castillo.man i agree. hell i was saying Tszyu is still good but the more i watched the fight. the more i could tell that only being able to fight 3 rounds in the last 2 and half years of his career hurt him against Hatton.
who believe me Hatton turned up to fight and wanted it badly.
as for PBF vs Ricky i dont really care who wins i just want them to shut up and fight.
and as for Witter i think he deserves a shot at Hatton sometime he has done everything right to get a shot at the Ring Belt Holder in Hatton.
as they say a fighter can lose it all in one night. you know how they are great one minute and then suddenly they lose it and in boxing it happens over night.
not saying Tszyu lost it he fought bravely but it wasnt the same Tszyu i watched that night compared to he one that fought Mitchell 7 months earlier.
the only boxers that dont lose it over night are the freaks i think its called a B-Hop.:lol: :good
mightyd40
07-27-2007, 02:53 PM
You are insinuating that he holds and elbows and is a dirty fighter, when in reality he doesn't hold, and doesn't elbow. I think you are looking for reasons that aren't there not to like him as a fighter, and I also think your comments are not warranted. WHere do you get the idea that he is arrogant from? Have you ever heard him in an interview being arrogant? NO. You just made it up, exactly like the other two points.
the thing is, i dont have to like him as a fighter.....thats the great thing about boxing, you like some and dislike others which draws excitement. and though you may not think my reasons are warranted i really dont care, its obvious by the amount of times you have posted on this thread how much you like this guy and therefore are attacking me because i dislike him. ps i never said he held i said he mauled, two different things.....cotto mauls too and he doesnt hold much either its just that they are both always on top of you........and another thing i do see him as arrogant,maybe not his regular personality but look at his ring entrance (arrogance) and i also will not be talked out of the fact that i think he elbows because thats the way he throws his hooks, with the elbow wrapping around in an odd manner so when he misses an elbow occasionally lands
its not a big deal that i dont like him guy and i did give him credit for being entertaining he just isnt my style of fighter......my favorite fighter is zab judah and i think he is arrogant as well just in a way that fits my style better so relax a little
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