Olympics.... Australia KO1 England

[Dr Gonzo]

:yep

[pecks]

I think Great Britain will do better than most people think in this Olympic Games.

[pecks]

Australia KO3 would be more appropriate. :yep

[ron u.k.]

in what?

[dwilson]

If you are wanting to cause a reaction you should pick a sporting event that us Brits give a fuck about. We already know we are a joke at most of the sports they do at the Olympics. We still kick ass in the cycling and sailing and could pick up a few medals elswhere but we are not concerned with how fast someone can swim or how much drugs people can take to make themselves run fast.


By the way if any of our boxers meet we will embarrass you the same way we did last time with your shitty Aussie hopeful Zap.

[BoppaZoo]

in what?i think they mean in medal count but me i think it might be close this year between the Aussies and the Brits.

Athletics-UK
Swimming-OZ
Cycling-UK
Rowing-UK
Shooting-OZ
Hockey-OZ
Basketball-OZ (Womens)
Boxing-UK

So yeah i think it will be close this year.

[Words]

Isn't it such a shame that Australia is so culturally bereft that the only semblence of national pride and identity that they can come up with is beating the poms at sports we dont care about. We dont care!! We have collectively grown up as a nation! Catch up, anytime soon boys.

We have a proud history, you have no history, we have a well defined and loved worldwide culture, you have a massive cultural inferiority complex that comes to the fore every time you get involved in a sporting event. Its bloody embarassing, get a grip! Your just like the Uruguayans, who were an artificially constructed country, and so used soccer as its only means of bringing the nation together because of no shared heritiage. Except the Uruguayans grew out of it about 30 years ago. Do catch up.

[huricn]

If you are wanting to cause a reaction you should pick a sporting event that us Brits give a fuck about. We already know we are a joke at most of the sports they do at the Olympics. We still kick ass in the cycling and sailing and could pick up a few medals elswhere but we are not concerned with how fast someone can swim or how much drugs people can take to make themselves run fast.


By the way if any of our boxers meet we will embarrass you the same way we did last time with your shitty Aussie hopeful Zap.

how old is Frankie Gavin?
do u know if he is going pro after the games?

[dwilson]

i think they mean in medal count but me i think it might be close this year between the Aussies and the Brits.

Athletics-UK
Swimming-OZ
Cycling-UK
Rowing-UK
Shooting-OZ
Hockey-OZ
Basketball-OZ (Womens)
Boxing-UK

So yeah i think it will be close this year.


You Aussies pick up a stack load of medals where as we only get the odd couple. I can not see us getting near you in the final medal tally but I do not mind, I always cheer on the former Commonwealth countries in these events.

[BoppaZoo]

You Aussies pick up a stack load of medals where as we only get the odd couple. I can not see us getting near you in the final medal tally but I do not mind, I always cheer on the former Commonwealth countries in these events.I think ther brits will be real strong in the Cycling and the Rowing this year though.

[BoppaZoo]

Isn't it such a shame that Australia is so culturally bereft that the only semblence of national pride and identity that they can come up with is beating the poms at sports we dont care about. We dont care!! We have collectively grown up as a nation! Catch up, anytime soon boys.

We have a proud history, you have no history, we have a well defined and loved worldwide culture, you have a massive cultural inferiority complex that comes to the fore every time you get involved in a sporting event. Its bloody embarassing, get a grip! Your just like the Uruguayans, who were an artificially constructed country, and so used soccer as its only means of bringing the nation together because of no shared heritiage. Except the Uruguayans grew out of it about 30 years ago. Do catch up.Mate get over yourself. You know as well as we do that the most talked about sporting event between 2 countries that the rivalry goes on for over 100 years.

The Ashes. When you win we get shit from the Poms and we win we give you shit its the way it goes.

If you now state that no one follows cricket well thats just not true. The year you won the Ashe's in 2005 more people followed that than the lack luster English football team.

[PrideOfWales]

how old is Frankie Gavin?
do u know if he is going pro after the games?

22

Probably - His salary depends if the BBC or Frank ****** think he's popular enough.

[DamonD]

'England'? Who is this 'England'? What Olympics have they ever taken part in?

Might you possibly mean the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

[Watto]

Australia will smash the uk in the olympics over all,but as we are on a boxing site,i believe the uk boxing team has more quality than the aussies have..Uk boxing in general has alot more quality.

[Beeston Brawler]

So we don't give a shit about cricket.....

I certainly do, but realise that 2005 was a one-off, and that order was restored in 2007 - it seems like the status quo will remain for quite some time as well.

[john b]

So we don't give a shit about cricket.....

I certainly do, but realise that 2005 was a one-off, and that order was restored in 2007 - it seems like the status quo will remain for quite some time as well.

But with KP in Charge things might go better. Don't get me wrong Vaughn did a fantastic job and I was sad to see him go. Talking about the Olympics Cycling will be close but Britain may Clinch it. Boxing in Britain in Ametuer is getting stronger all the time I mean we only took Amir Khan to Athens and now we have got seven with hopefully frankie gavin leading the way.

[dwilson]

Gavin has mentioned he is willing to stay amature until 2012 which for me would be a waste. I hope he does well at the Olympics then goes pro. I think he is 23 so it would be a long wait until the London Olympics.

[john b]

Hope for is pro career he doesn't sign with ****** because he'l be fighting superfeatherweights with no pop just like another lightweight who turned pro after the olympics.

[icemax]

But with KP in Charge things might go better.

Don't get me going on this...the whole thing is a complete fuck up. How the fuck can you have some South African mercenary captaining the England cricket team? Besides that, the man is a self interested fuckwit, hardly the material of a great captain :-(

[dwilson]

I am just glad they did not go for some scum sucking Lancashire bastard. Scum.

[john b]

I am just glad they did not go for some scum sucking Lancashire bastard. Scum.

Now their is no need for that as lancastrains sing I would rather be a bastard than a yorkshireman LOL:lol:. Only a bit of banter.

[rydersonthestorm]

Mate get over yourself. You know as well as we do that the most talked about sporting event between 2 countries that the rivalry goes on for over 100 years.

The Ashes. When you win we get shit from the Poms and we win we give you shit its the way it goes.

If you now state that no one follows cricket well thats just not true. The year you won the Ashe's in 2005 more people followed that than the lack luster English football team.cricketbigger han football :roll:

[john b]

cricketbigger han football :roll:

It was in 2005 as was the rugby in 2003. How about that beating the aussies twice in successive rugby world cup even in 2007 when our team was shite.

[ron u.k.]

Don't get me going on this...the whole thing is a complete fuck up. How the fuck can you have some South African mercenary captaining the England cricket team? Besides that, the man is a self interested fuckwit, hardly the material of a great captain :-(well at least he's half english.

[Beeston Brawler]

I think he would do a better job than Flintoff, who seems to be on borrowed time, not to mention the fact that he is a walking wicket at the moment.....

Strauss would have been my man, but as he isn't in the ODI team it probably counts against him.

My side....

Strauss
Cook
Pietersen (c)
Shah
Bell
Flintoff
Foster (wk)
Rashid
Broad
Sidebottom
Anderson

Rashid in for Panesar because Monty has turned into a clown - Adil is also a far better batsman and fielder. Broad would come back in provided he can become more of a wicket-taker.

Foster would be the keeper because he is good in both departments, you need a balance between keeping and batting. Trying to find a Gilchrist or Sangakkara is a futile operation :deal

[ThePlugInBabies]

rashid :rofl

broad :rofl

not trying to take the piss mate but how do you plan on bowling sides out? you've basically picked a team with three bowlers and five batsman.

[Beeston Brawler]

Point taken.....

I just don't like Harmison or Panesar :lol:

The lack of quality fast bowlers is staggering - Rashid has plenty of potential, but on reflection, he has been working too much on his batting rather than the bowling.

[ThePlugInBabies]

Point taken.....

I just don't like Harmison or Panesar :lol:

The lack of quality fast bowlers is staggering - Rashid has plenty of potential, but on reflection, he has been working too much on his batting rather than the bowling.

monty's no english answer to murali but he is lightyears ahead of anyone else in the rest of the country. being a fingerspinner you cannot expect him to rip through teams on pitches that don't suit him. but he will and has caused trouble on turners. his test record is very impressive for a fingerspinner at his age.

rashid may be a talent but the international arena is no place to learn your game and his bowling suit is the most difficult skill to master in the game. wrist spin is an exceptional talent when done right but god awful when done wrong.

agreed on harmison though, there's no hidden talent or massive potential there, he's just shite.

[Beeston Brawler]

I don't think Harmison is shite, I just feel he lacks mental fortitude, ticker, guts, whatever you want to call it.

He is also like a fish out of water when asked to tour, and his shameless, pathetic retirement from one day cricket just summed him up, as did his interview with Athers during the fifth test in Sydney last year. 'Yeah I wouldn't mind getting home' and 'I will ask the coach about what he wants me to do' simply aren't good enough.

The constant bleating on about being out of form pissed me off, as an excuse why he was miserable. Brett Lee was out of form for the first three tests, but still charged in for all he was worth and contributed both with bat and in the field, and played with a smile on his face.

There is the difference :deal

International cricket is no place to be learning - Plunkett and Mahmood found out the hard way. It is difficult to see either of those (espec Saj - hopefully anyway) coming back.

On Panesar, I find all the circus act thing terribly irritating - jumping up all over the place and constant appealing puts Shane Warne into the 'quiet ones' league - and his fielding is a disgrace. Stop eating pies and get on the treadmill methinks :deal

[ishy]

Rashid is nowhere near good enough for Test cricket yet. His bowling is developing very gradually though his batting has improved at a faster rate. I still believe Hoggard is one of the best fast bowlers in England at the moment. He is much better(and way more consistent) than the lanky shite that is Harmison.

Also, what have the selectors got against Owais Shah? The guy has consistently performed for his county plus whenever he has played for the ODI side yet he doesn't get a look in on the test side. They go for Bopara instead who may be having a decent season but has looked below par when he has played in the ODI's and we don't know whether he can consistently perform season in season out yet.

What do you guys make of the new TV deal. Sky have picked up the righs again and the BBC didn't bother to bid. The ECB chief is pretty pissed of at the beeb though I'm sure part of this is the ECB's fault as well.

[Beeston Brawler]

Bopara lacks the technique to succeed at Test level. He may go well in ODI's - add his bowling and fielding and you have a decent cricketer. I also don't understand the obsession with Luke Wright :deal

[ishy]

mBopara lacks the technique to succeed at Test level. He may go well in ODI's - add his bowling and fielding and you have a decent cricketer. I also don't understand the obsession with Luke Wright :deal

Limited as he may be he's a big hitter who can have limited success in ODI's and England don't have too many of those.

[Beeston Brawler]

I think Mascarenhas is a better option, with both ball and bat :deal

Anthony McGrath would fit the bill as well. If he didn't play for Sussex he would be nowhere near the international set up.

[ishy]

McGrath is a great shout though he's getting on a bit now. I remember when he played for England quite a few years ago-he showed that he could perform at the top level and didn't look out of place. He was better than Craig White in his prime who got quite a few chances with England.

[teke]

Aust P4P one of the worlds strongest in sports.

Olympic medal race between Aust and UK will be close this year......nah Aust KO3 :deal

[PrideOfWales]

McGrath plays for Yorks no? Plus he's out with a hamstring injury at the moment.

[Beeston Brawler]

McGrath does play for Yorkshire and has played really well the past couple of years.

I would have said him and Chalky were about on par - Maggs the better and more consistent batsman, whilst Chalky was a top class bowler in his prime, hard to get away with his late swinging yorkers and could hit a long ball.

World ODI XI

Hayden/Smith/Tendulkar
Hayden/Smith/Tendulkar
Ponting (c)
Sangakkara
Symonds
Dhoni (wk)
Bravo/Afridi
Vettori
Lee
Bracken
Muralitharan

[Jimbo]

Not sure who it was that decided half of all the medals in the Olympics needed to be for swimming but it certainly assists countries that do lots of swimming.

The equivalent in athletics would be having 4 different medals for the 100m, one for running, one for skipping, one for crawling and one for hopping. This would then be repeated for the 200, 400, 800 and 1500m and we would then introduce additional "medley" events where longer distances would be divided into 4 and competitors would consecutively run, skip, crawl and hop the 4 legs.

[PrideOfWales]

McGrath does play for Yorkshire and has played really well the past couple of years.

I would have said him and Chalky were about on par - Maggs the better and more consistent batsman, whilst Chalky was a top class bowler in his prime, hard to get away with his late swinging yorkers and could hit a long ball.

World ODI XI

Hayden/Smith/Tendulkar
Hayden/Smith/Tendulkar
Ponting (c)
Sangakkara
Symonds
Dhoni (wk)
Bravo/Afridi
Vettori
Lee
Bracken
Muralitharan

Have you seen Mendis yet? Incredible.

[Beeston Brawler]

Not seen anything of him, but heard enough!

I was toying whether or not to include Jayasuriya instead of Vettori and bat Tendulkar at 4 shunting everybody else down.

That way you get a run a ball at the top plus a handy bowling option - you already have the two leading quicks in ODI cricket in Lee and Bracken backed up by Murali and one of Bravo and Afridi

[Eubank]

89% of Australian medals are won in Swimming evens. Nobody cares, we not fish.

[pecks]

89% of Australian medals are won in Swimming evens. Nobody cares, we not fish.It's one of the main sports in the games, not as popular as the track and field, but still pretty popular.

Also, if memory serves me correctly, I think we won more medals than you in the athletics during the last Commonwealth Games. :p

All in all, I think you guys will have a good Olympics, much better than the Athens Games anyway, and that we will sit pretty close to each other in the medal tally.

[cedrichw]

Always laugh when sport gets brought up with the British. Any sport that they loose to the Aussies at they dont care about, it's boring, we are not fish and many other excuses. yet any sport they are good at are the only real sports. I go for Australia in all sports and feel bad everytime they loose no matter even if it is Sycronised swimming. I feel great when they win as well. get some spirit guys there are people competing for there country after years of sacrifie and you guys dont give a shit. shocking

[SouthLondonsFinest]

It's one of the main sports in the games, not as popular as the track and field, but still pretty popular.

Also, if memory serves me correctly, I think we won more medals than you in the athletics during the last Commonwealth Games. :p

All in all, I think you guys will have a good Olympics, much better than the Athens Games anyway, and that we will sit pretty close to each other in the medal tally.


indeed you did mate! I cant see us being close to you guys, you have quite a good few sports you excel in. Our sprinters of the past are not as good - but have got a good few youngsters coming through.. bring back dwain!

Below is harry Aikines-Aryeetey - we won 100m and 200m world junior champs... London 2012 he should be up there

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[BoppaZoo]

Don't get me going on this...the whole thing is a complete fuck up. How the fuck can you have some South African mercenary captaining the England cricket team? Besides that, the man is a self interested fuckwit, hardly the material of a great captain :-(Yeah i was very surprissed it reminded me of when Wessels was in charge of Australia (Very Bad Time). Me i would have gave the job to Bell. But hey each to there own.

[dwilson]

indeed you did mate! I cant see us being close to you guys, you have quite a good few sports you excel in. Our sprinters of the past are not as good - but have got a good few youngsters coming through.. bring back dwain!

Below is harry Aikines-Aryeetey - we won 100m and 200m world junior champs... London 2012 he should be up there

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Probably get done for drugs soon then.:-(

[BoppaZoo]

Probably get done for drugs soon then.:-(:lol: :good

[elias]

Yeah i was very surprissed it reminded me of when Wessels was in charge of Australia (Very Bad Time). Me i would have gave the job to Bell. But hey each to there own.

Big Game Belly hasn't show enough mental toughness.

[Beeston Brawler]

Ian Bell lacks the ability to deal with pressures. Every time it gets tough, you never see Bell digging in with a 70 not out over five hours - you will see Bell ct so and so b so and so 7 (or similar). He cannot play the spinners to save his life, and isn't worth his place in the one day side either.

[ishy]

Harmison is back in the side for the next test :patsch.

England XI(in batting order):
Andrew Strauss
Alastair Cook
Ian Bell
Kevin Pietersen (c)
Paul Collingwood
Andrew Flintoff
Tim Ambrose (wkt)
Stuart Broad
James Anderson
Steve Harmison
Monty Panesar

Is Sidearse injured or what? Flintoff at 6 is a bad call, I'd rahter have Broad there and Pietersen should bat at 3 rather than Bell.

[Beeston Brawler]

Siddy is not 100% fit, clearly the selectors have learned their lessons :patsch

I would bat Broad at 6 with Flintoff at 8 - Broad has batted really well this summer and has only looked like getting out when he was slogging with walking wicket Panesar at the crease.

I suppose they are trying to be more aggressive - a fit, focused and firing Harmison can be a useful asset but those are three big if's - also, WTF are they going to do in the winter with an away series against India coming up?

Harmy is homesick enough playing at Headingley or Old Trafford, what will he be like in Chennai or Bangalore :patsch

[john b]

I think we need harmy extra pace and bounce to cause the South Africans a problem because even though sidebottom, anderson and broad have done well, harmy on fire can fire the ball in over 90 mph on frequent occasion and he compliments the bowling of freddy as well.

[Beeston Brawler]

Yeah they do make a reasonable pair - but in truth neither are really worth their places at the present time. Flintoff would get in as a bowler only, he cannot be relied upon to produce sufficient runs at 6.

[teke]

Who the fuck hijacked this thread and turned it into a cricket one :-(

[Beeston Brawler]

Guilty - it was when people were talking about which sports Australia were better than us at, and somebody said that Aus were only good at sports we didn't give a damn about

[teke]

Guilty - it was when people were talking about which sports Australia were better than us at, and somebody said that Aus were only good at sports we didn't give a damn aboutSteve Waugh and Gilchrist are pushing really hard for 20/20 cricket to be played at the olympics, i think it would be a great idea. They have 7s Union why not the shorter fan friendly 20/20.

[Beeston Brawler]

I think it would be a great idea as well - there are a few sports which could (and should) be ditched. 20-20 could be included at their expense, that way, you could condense all the 20-20 into the Olympics and Commonwealth games and lose it from the ICC calendar (with the aim of protecting Test match cricket as the premier form of competition) and allowing the game to grow on a world level.

I think it is much easier to compete at T20 level than at ODI or Test (as Bangladesh have discovered).

Ditch the following......

Handball - WTF is that?
Syncronised swimming and diving - again pointless
Fencing - sends out the wrong message to kids
Taekwondo - we already have judo and boxing, why this?

[pecks]

All 3 forms of cricket should be included in the Olympics.

They should also add Rugby League in it, and Rugby League World 7's. :yep

[Beeston Brawler]

Well the Test tournament will last about ten mins.......

I could really see Brett Lee tearing in at some part time computer programmer from Japan, or Shahid Afridi teeing off against an American sandwich artist :rofl

I hate sevens rugby - league isn't that bad but sevens union is awful :deal

[BoppaZoo]

Ian Bell lacks the ability to deal with pressures. Every time it gets tough, you never see Bell digging in with a 70 not out over five hours - you will see Bell ct so and so b so and so 7 (or similar). He cannot play the spinners to save his life, and isn't worth his place in the one day side either.Yeah i just thought though being made England captain sometimes, well no most the time there captains lose there game totally. Which in Englands case you cant afford to happen with Pieterson.

I just thought if you gave it to someone that doesnt really shine that much they might feel like they have to work to keep there spot like a Bell or a Strauss.

Where if you give the captaincy to your best player with flair it makes them hold back a bit more.

Like you never seen Botham the big job cos that would take away his his chararistics from his game.
Just my 2 cents.

Look at Aussies winning formula for being the best cricket team.
You give the job to the most determined and serious guy on the team that is mature.

Border
Taylor
Waugh
now
Ponting

When England was in great form you had guys like
Gower
Lamb
and Gatting

Another case in point is look how bad the West Indies were when Lara was captain.
Or how shocking India were with Tendulkar at the helm.

[Beeston Brawler]

So is Pup the next man to lead Australia?

Other than him there are no obvious candidates - Hayden & Hussey will be too old, Lee probably the same.

Another thing - is Nathan Bracken as hated as some say?

[BoppaZoo]

So is Pup the next man to lead Australia?

Other than him there are no obvious candidates - Hayden & Hussey will be too old, Lee probably the same.

Another thing - is Nathan Bracken as hated as some say?Me personally i dont think he is.
He hasnt got that killer instinct like the other captains of Australia have had.
Lee would be a better choice.

I guess we will find out. You get what i mean though.

The distractions of being England captain could hurt your best players game.
Which me personally if i was part of the commitee over there i would not want.

[TFFP]

If Olympics is Australia KO1 England, Cricket must be KO at the toss.

[Beeston Brawler]

Me personally i dont think he is.
He hasnt got that killer instinct like the other captains of Australia have had.
Lee would be a better choice.

I guess we will find out. You get what i mean though.

The distractions of being England captain could hurt your best players game.
Which me personally if i was part of the commitee over there i would not want.

I think Lee has the killer instinct and is at the peak of his career, but where will his form sit in four years time - when Ponting is likely to step aside?

One thing you would get with Clarke is a prime guy who will be able to do the job for some time - but I think the Aussies are reaching a plateau in terms of the development of top class players having had 20 years of continued success (hardly surprising these things happen).

Who are the young prospects coming through - I have seen bits of Noffke, Casson and Bollinger and have been less than impressed, though Marsh and Ronchi look real finds.

[BoppaZoo]

I think Lee has the killer instinct and is at the peak of his career, but where will his form sit in four years time - when Ponting is likely to step aside?

One thing you would get with Clarke is a prime guy who will be able to do the job for some time - but I think the Aussies are reaching a plateau in terms of the development of top class players having had 20 years of continued success (hardly surprising these things happen).

Who are the young prospects coming through - I have seen bits of Noffke, Casson and Bollinger and have been less than impressed, though Marsh and Ronchi look real finds.Marsh will be an amazing player.

Theres no doubt in my mind and being from a famous cricketing family he has what it takes to be a great player and could even captain.

Top Prospects for Australia (All thes guys in 3 or 4 years will be very close to being in the Aussie Squad some already are).

Cam White 24 years old VIC
Aiden Blizzard 23 years old VIC
Adam McDonald 25 years old VIC
Peter Siddle 22 years old VIC
Beau Casson 24 years old NSW
Doug Bollinger 26 years old NSW
Shaun Marsh 24 years old WA
Luke Ronchi 26 years old WA
Ben Hilfenhaus 24 years old TAS
Cullen Bailey 22 years old SA
Dan Cullen 23 years old SA

Then theres two guys that have great talent but just not sure were there at
in Mark Cosgrove and Shaun Tait.

So we have the talent but with Australia its not the Prospects you have to worry about its the guys that Australia find out of nowwhere that shock the Cricket world.

Like the Gilchrists,Symonds type guys that come from nowhere.

[ishy]

Bailey is a leg spinner, right? Heard quite a bit about him. Cameron White played county cricket for last year and the year before and did well. He was fantastic (as a batsman) in the T20 tournament. Plus he bowls some decent leg spin.

Luke Ronchi is a good keeper-batsman but what about Brad Haddin? He's not the youngest though I watched him in the ODI's against India last year and his batting was really impressive.

[Beeston Brawler]

I think if Shaun Tait can piece it together he will go a long way. I have seen a bit of Dan Cullen and he did nothing on what must be described as a helpful track.

I suppose there is plenty to go at - over here we have 'The Untouchables' in the top six whilst the bowlers are axed after more than one less than stellar performance.

I think Ronchi will replace Haddin pretty soon - they have been grooming Haddin for quite some time and had him around the squad, he may have benefitted from playing more meaningful cricket rather than the odd ODI when Gilly needed a rest.

[TFFP]

There is no way Paul Collingwood is a test batsman. He got that score to save his ginger ass, but he'll probably go on another run of single figure scores now. His technique is disastrous. At least he does it when it matters, unlike Bell, but Bell is infinitely more talented and might grow some balls one day

Strauss is crap too IMO.

If I was Shah I'd petrol bomb the ECB.

[ishy]

Harmy has took two wickets!!! He was on a hat trick. And another wickets gone just now! Boucher caught behind of Anderson. SAffers 132-6.

[Beeston Brawler]

Colly doesn't have the technique nor the talent to succeed at Test level long term, but he has a great deal more bottle than Ian Bell - which counts for something. You won't see Colly surrendering.

Shah is definitely worth a go - but his fielding would count against him in this instance. I would like to see Joe Denly and Rob Key given extended runs in the side - Strauss hasn't done fuckall since saving his career in NZ.

Panesar out as well - he is a total clown. Intimidating umpires and the silly jumping up and down simply isn't on, whilst his fielding and batting are cringeworthy. It just isn't funny anymore :deal

[TFFP]

Yeah, but who's replacing Panesar?

He can be economical, and if conditions suit he's a real threat. I don't see any others achieveing that, batting and fielding don't even come into it unless you've got somebody comparable.

[ishy]

IF Monty's dropped who would your spinner be? Monty's a better Test spinner than Graeme Swann and Rashid is not ready for test cricket yet.

My preferable England XI would be:
Trescothick:deal
Cook
Key
Pietersen
Shah
Bell
Foster(wk)
Flintoff
Anderson/Sidebottom
Hoggard
Panesar

[TFFP]

Trescothick's gone mental since the reserve keeper started banging his wife while he was on tour

Stick a fork in him.

Rest of the team is alright.

[ishy]

Trescothick's gone mental since the reserve keeper started banging his wife while he was on tour

Stick a fork in him.

Rest of the team is alright.
His form has been excellent in the county game this season. Despite, the mental issues he's still the best opener we have IMO.:happy

EDit: If Trescothick's not in the team then I'd have Denly to replace him OR Key moves up and someone like Bopara comes in.

[TFFP]

He's still not going to play, he's retired. Guys batshit crazy

Prefer Bopara to Key. More potential there. Hasn't set the world alight, but there is some serious talent to work with and he can fill in with some overs

[ishy]

Monty's took a wicket!! Saffers 158-7 at tea.

[Beeston Brawler]

I think Key is a better batsman, but Bopara has more improvement in him and can offer an option with the ball as well as being a better fieldsman.

I see your point about Panesar - but the intimidation of umpires is completely unacceptable and needs to be nipped in the bud :deal

I probably see it like this......

Cook
Denly
Pietersen
Bell
Shah
Broad
Foster
Flintoff
Sidebottom
Anderson
Panesar (grudingly)

Denly in for Strauss

Pietersen at 3 rather than Bell - who lacks mental toughness required for #3 :deal

Shah in for Collingwood - better technique and player of spinners (needed for India tour)

Broad above Flintoff - Freddie has been a walking wicket for the past two years whilst Broad looks capable

Foster in for Ambrose - I have been shouting for Foster for ages now. An arrogant fucker, but capable of balancing keeping and batting like nobody else in the county game.

Sidebottom in for Harmison - though he has done well today, you never know when he is going to implode. Siddy is a real tryer and edges Hoggy at present. Hoggy may come in in the winter, as he is proven in the subcontinent.

[icemax]

Yeah, but who's replacing Panesar?



David Wainwright of Yorkshire :yep ......I am not biased even though he is my cousins son.

[Beeston Brawler]

You may be joking......

But I have seen a bit of him and think he has potential in the one day format - don't know what he is like in championship cricket though.

[icemax]

You may be joking......

But I have seen a bit of him and think he has potential in the one day format - don't know what he is like in championship cricket though.

He's not a bad little player but only about the third best in that side of the family. My home village of Fitzwilliam has produced some proper sportsmen over the years.

[JonOli]

1-0 to the UK, we win the pie eating contest.

[Beeston Brawler]

He's not a bad little player but only about the third best in that side of the family. My home village of Fitzwilliam has produced some proper sportsmen over the years.

A certain selfish opening batsman, with a tendency to beat up women?

[icemax]

A certain selfish opening batsman, with a tendency to beat up women?
:good

[elias]

A certain selfish opening batsman, with a tendency to beat up women?


His grandmother is/was apparently a fairly nifty player too.


[Only registered and activated users can see links]'s_Grandmother

[icemax]

The way she wielded a stick of rhubarb had to be seen to be believed

[elias]

I think Boycott should be made President of the People's Republic of Yorkshire.

[Beeston Brawler]

I think Brian Close would sum us up much better.

Boycs is funny but not everybody's cup of tea :deal

[icemax]

I think Brian Close would sum us up much better.

Boycs is funny but not everybody's cup of tea :deal

Brian Close is certainly more considered and balanced than Geoff, but he is probably more single minded. He was supposed to be a bit of a terror in the dressing room, even reverting to physical violence when he thought someone had fucked up badly on the pitch.

[icemax]

Just listening to TMS and Geoffrey appears to have had more than one glass of wine at lunch....he is a bit of a girly when it comes to holding his ale.

[elias]

Actually, thinking about it Alan Bennett would be better than Boycs (his voice is probably on a par with Boycott's batting as a cure for insomnia too).

[Beeston Brawler]

Brian Close was probably the most competitive sportsman ever.

It was rumoured that he offered to fight Muhammad Ali, and while he may lose a verdict over 15 rounds, he would be damned that he would be knocked out, and was willing to bet everything he owned that he would hear the final bell.

Apparently his Somerset teammates at the time raised a wee giggle but were not willing to bet against their skipper.

Tales of Closey are legendary - from refusing to wear any kind of protective equipment other than pads, glove and box, to standing almost in between Garry Sobers's legs whilst fielding during a crucial period of a Test match.

I think most people do have a softspot for Boycs, because he calls it how he sees it rather than bullshitting like to many other commentators in sport - though his rudeness is rather grating.

[icemax]

Actually, thinking about it Alan Bennett would be better than Boycs (his voice is probably on a par with Boycott's batting as a cure for insomnia too).

Bennett would be an excellent choice :good

[jameswilson]

I think its worth resurrecting this as Britain are currently way ahead of Australia in the medal table and the events where Australia dominate Britain the most (swimming) is nearly over.

Could this be another of those great threads where as Aussie comes in and gloats before the event is over and gets truly pwned.

[Beeston Brawler]

I have been surprised at how few medals the Aussies have won, especially in the pool - but when one guy is monopolising everything I suppose you are screwed :lol:

[JonOli]

:yep
Australia KO1 England



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[JonOli]

If it wasn't for Phelps wed be equal with the yanks!:yikes

[jameswilson]

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They are comedy gold arent they.

Im so gutted that the Ashes 2003 thread was lost. After the first day of the first test an Aussie poster made a thread called 'The Poms have soiled their undergarments' England had the last laugh when we won the series. Some top quality banter in that old thread.

Speaking seriously tho is there another event where Australia will pick up huge numbers of medals? I know they usually won a lot in Swimming, and I think cycling, but outside of that I dont know. We always used to pick medals up in the rowing (even in Atlanta we managed some Gold there) and now we dominate the cycling.

Where else do the Aussies usually pick their medals up?

[Beeston Brawler]

I think we have been steadily improving since the dark days of Atlanta - its good to see people like Adlington win things and remain themselves.

Your reference to the England cricket team is interesting - they all cashed in for all it was worth, releasing books and a cover of Jerusalem, yet started whinging when people got on their backs after the inevitable dip in form and subsequent debacle in Oz.

[elias]

I think the Aussies will still overhaul us in the table. They've got two sailing golds guaranteed for tomorrow (and a good chance in another sailing event), and usually do well in sports like hockey, the triathlon and I reckon Anna Meares will beat Pendleton in the cycling. They also have a very good chance of winning the women's points race.

To beat them we need our cyclists to shut them out of the golds (point race apart), we need the athletics to go well too, Idowu especially.

[Beeston Brawler]

I think our weakness is the track and field.

Serious medal contenders are pretty much.....

Phillips Idowu
Kelly Sotherton (already lost)
Jessica Ennis (out injured)
Nicola Sanders (KO'd in semis)
Christine Ohurugu (dodgy spelling :patsch)
Paula Radcliffe (blown it again)
4x400 womens relay
1 of 3 men high jumpers maybe

I must admit i have been encouraged with the performances of the women athletes, which have been largely pitiful for years (with a few obvious exceptions, Holmes, Gunnell etc) but the males are miles off the pace at the moment. There are fewer 'superstars' such as Jackson, Christie, Regis et al and more realistic final contenders than previous, such as the 100m female runner so perhaps with increased funding for the pick of those then our results can improve. However, one man who must go is the UK athletics director Dave Collins. What he knows about the game could be written on the back of a fag packet.

[elias]

I think our weakness is the track and field.

Serious medal contenders are pretty much.....

Phillips Idowu
Kelly Sotherton (already lost)
Jessica Ennis (out injured)
Nicola Sanders (KO'd in semis)
Christine Ohurugu (dodgy spelling :patsch)
Paula Radcliffe (blown it again)
4x400 womens relay
1 of 3 men high jumpers maybe

I must admit i have been encouraged with the performances of the women athletes, which have been largely pitiful for years (with a few obvious exceptions, Holmes, Gunnell etc) but the males are miles off the pace at the moment. There are fewer 'superstars' such as Jackson, Christie, Regis et al and more realistic final contenders than previous, such as the 100m female runner so perhaps with increased funding for the pick of those then our results can improve. However, one man who must go is the UK athletics director Dave Collins. What he knows about the game could be written on the back of a fag packet.

The men's 400 metre relay squad have a small chance to grab a bronze (Martyn Rooney is decent). Greg Rutherford might sneak a bronze too.


But you're pretty much spot on.

[Beeston Brawler]

I was impressed with Ohurogu, but Sanders was disappointing, looked too light to me compared to last year, when she was in great condition

[onourway]

I see your point about Panesar - but the intimidation of umpires is completely unacceptable and needs to be nipped in the bud

Monty?

Intimidating somebody?

He's incapable of being intimidating.

[Beeston Brawler]

Well perhaps intimidation is a bit strong, but the over appealing is ridiculous. He makes Shane Warne, Mushtaq Ahmed and Wasim Akram seem like angels.

[Anthony Farnell]

We've made great improvements on past olympics.
The funding helps but not in all areas.
Look at athletics giving money to the likes of Mark Lewis-Francis has made him feel like Usain Bolt before he has done anything :lol:

America aren't doing as well on the track now after all the drug busts too :oops::lol:

[Beeston Brawler]

Mark Lewis-Francis was a worthwhile investment IMO - he was an excellent junior who simply hasn't done it at the top level. The funding was deserved but should have been cut accordingly. Though potential top class athletes should be given a proportion of the full funding - to make them do something first.

People who actually achieve should be given maximum funding, not simply on potential. From what I understand, Sanders and Ohuruogu were on next to nothing prior to last year, likewise Adlington - and they have delivered. Time to be paid accordingly.

[Anthony Farnell]

Mark Lewis-Francis was a worthwhile investment IMO - he was an excellent junior who simply hasn't done it at the top level. The funding was deserved but should have been cut accordingly. Though potential top class athletes should be given a proportion of the full funding - to make them do something first.

Agree. I was just saying it always needs a balancing act to try and get it right and some will always fuck up even the greatest of chances.

[Beeston Brawler]

Like Dwain Chambers :deal

If he hadn't taken the drugs and put too much muscle on, he would have won the world title that year.

[Anthony Farnell]

Chambers always seemed to lack belief in himself imo.
Who won that world title?
Were they on drugs too? :lol:

[Beeston Brawler]

I may be wrong, but think it was Kim Collins

He certainly won it one year, when Greene was absent I think

[Anthony Farnell]

I may be wrong, but think it was Kim Collins

He certainly won it one year, when Greene was absent I think

Yes it was Collins.
Dwain sure did fuck it all up.

[pecks]

They are comedy gold arent they.

Im so gutted that the Ashes 2003 thread was lost. After the first day of the first test an Aussie poster made a thread called 'The Poms have soiled their undergarments' England had the last laugh when we won the series. Some top quality banter in that old thread.
Yes, nearly as humiliating as the Ashes thread you created in 2007 where afterwards Australia won 5 - 0.

Or perhaps the avatar bet I won with you where you bet me that if you took swimming out of the Commonwealth Games, England would beat Australia in the medal tally.

Anyway, I thought you guys would get very close to us this Olympics, I expected us to win more in the pool though where we failed somewhat.

We'll be lucky to get past 10 gold now.

[elias]

Yes, nearly as humiliating as the Ashes thread you created in 2007 where afterwards Australia won 5 - 0.

Or perhaps the avatar bet I won with you where you bet me that if you took swimming out of the Commonwealth Games, England would beat Australia in the medal tally.

Anyway, I thought you guys would get very close to us this Olympics, I expected us to win more in the pool though where we failed somewhat.

We'll be lucky to get past 10 gold now.

Well you've got 11 now (above us due to your silvers). I think you lot will end up with around 15 golds, you've still got the hockey coming up and should win 1 or 2 cycling golds and maybe another in the sailing.

[pecks]

Well you've got 11 now (above us due to your silvers). I think you lot will end up with around 15 golds, you've still got the hockey coming up and should win 1 or 2 cycling golds and maybe another in the sailing.yeah, we've gone well outside the pool this time. Our target before the tournament was 15 gold, but that was taking into account we'd win 10 or so in the pool, so if we can get 15, it'd be a good games considering how we went in the pool.

[BoppaZoo]

yeah, we've gone well outside the pool this time. Our target before the tournament was 15 gold, but that was taking into account we'd win 10 or so in the pool, so if we can get 15, it'd be a good games considering how we went in the pool.Yeah how many of our favourites in the pool choked
Eammon Sullivan 100m Free and 50m Free
Jess Schipper 200m Fly
Grant Hackett 1500m
Libby Trickett 100m Free
Leisel Jones 200m Breastsroke

Thats 6 Golds right there that we should have had.

[pecks]

Yeah how many of our favourites in the pool choked
Eammon Sullivan 100m Free and 50m Free
Jess Schipper 200m Fly
Grant Hackett 1500m
Libby Trickett 100m Free
Leisel Jones 200m Breastsroke

Thats 6 Golds right there that we should have had.True. I think we got 2 unexpected golds in the pool, but we failed to get 5 or 6 that we were supposed to.

[kel]

Yeah how many of our favourites in the pool choked
Eammon Sullivan 100m Free and 50m Free
Jess Schipper 200m Fly
Grant Hackett 1500m
Libby Trickett 100m Free
Leisel Jones 200m Breastsroke

Thats 6 Golds right there that we should have had.


Can you believe this choker was $1.02 with most bookers in the final 200 breaststroke??

As the poms wld say Hackett bottled it in the 1500 :lol:

Don't forget we got one back in the 200 womens relay that the yanks were suppose to win.

[BoppaZoo]

Can you believe this choker was $1.02 with most bookers in the final 200 breaststroke??

As the poms wld say Hackett bottled it in the 1500 :lol:

Don't forget we got one back in the 200 womens relay that the yanks were suppose to win.Yeah her time that she did in the final was the worst time she had done in a final in years in that event.

And Grant was 10 seconds faster in the heat than he was in the final which would have won him the Gold.

Sullivan was the biggest surprise for me after his heat time and semi times i thought he has got the 50m and the 100m sown up.

Leisel Jones always chokes.

[BoppaZoo]

True. I think we got 2 unexpected golds in the pool, but we failed to get 5 or 6 that we were supposed to.i wasnt happy with some of the chokers. They showed me one thing that there to soft these days with no heart.

All pampered too much i feel.

[pecks]

i wasnt happy with some of the chokers. They showed me one thing that there to soft these days with no heart.

All pampered too much i feel.Yeah, guys like Hackett, Sullivan just simply blew it. Sullivan can take this as a learning experience, not to outdo himself before the final. Hackett however, should have simply known better.

Did you watch the Olyroo's?
Was pissed that Burns and Djiti didn't get selected. Spira was a standout I thought, and I'm looking forward, and hoping he gets thrown into the deep end with the senior squad.

[BoppaZoo]

Yeah, guys like Hackett, Sullivan just simply blew it. Sullivan can take this as a learning experience, not to outdo himself before the final. Hackett however, should have simply known better.

Did you watch the Olyroo's?
Was pissed that Burns and Djiti didn't get selected. Spira was a standout I thought, and I'm looking forward, and hoping he gets thrown into the deep end with the senior squad.Yeah what we needed was Goal scorers and we took Midfielders. Look i like Arnie but really i want us to play attractive football not defensive football.

Spiranovic from Nurnberg was great.
Federici was also outstanding.

And who impressed me aswell was Musialik.

But the rest after those boys under performed for me.

[BoppaZoo]

Also Stuey Musialik needs to go to Europe next year i think. I think Holland would be a good spot.

[pecks]

Yeah what we needed was Goal scorers and we took Midfielders. Look i like Arnie but really i want us to play attractive football not defensive football.

Spiranovic from Nurnberg was great.
Federici was also outstanding.

And who impressed me aswell was Musialik.

But the rest after those boys under performed for me.I just think Arnie is out of his league, and even with the Olyroo's. Let him establish himself in the A-League at least imo.

I wasn't a fan of his selections, and the 3 overaged players he picked.

Yeah, federeci was great, and for mine, he'd be our 2nd picked for the senior team behind Schwarzer.
Looking forward to see how our younger guys progress. Hopefully guys like Djite get a decent amount of football.

Also, it's time Viduka makes up his mind whether or not he wants to play international football anymore.
We're at our final phase of qualifying, and it's only fair that he plays some part. Even someone like Viduka can't expect to walk into a World Cup without playing any part in the qualifiers.

[elias]

yeah, we've gone well outside the pool this time. Our target before the tournament was 15 gold, but that was taking into account we'd win 10 or so in the pool, so if we can get 15, it'd be a good games considering how we went in the pool.

The medals outside the pool so far have gone pretty much as expected for the Aussies.

10 golds in the pool would have set you up for a big haul. Yanks really did for you in the men's swimming though.

Either Britain or Australia should top the sailing medals.

We've dominated the cycling, but I think Meares will beat Pendleton in the sprint. Aussies also ahve a very good chance in the women's points race.

[Beeston Brawler]

I am amazed how we have smoked everyone in the velodrome.

[Cobbler]

I am amazed how we have smoked everyone in the velodrome.

We did the same thing in the World Championships a few months ago, so none of the medals have been a shock.

[the beaver]

We did the same thing in the World Championships a few months ago, so none of the medals have been a shock.

GB in the cycling have been incredible.

Can any Brit tell me what the individual medal count is for

England?
Wales?
Scotland?
NIreland?

[SouthLondonsFinest]

GB in the cycling have been incredible.

Can any Brit tell me what the individual medal count is for

England?
Wales?
Scotland?
NIreland?

haha, still have to find a way to discredit us init.

[kel]

haha, still have to find a way to discredit us init.

Absolutely :lol: :lol: :good

[SouthLondonsFinest]

:lol:

[pecks]

:lol:Cricket needs to be added to the next Olympics, all 3 forms of it too, along with Rugby league.

[SouthLondonsFinest]

Cricket needs to be added to the next Olympics, all 3 forms of it too, along with Rugby league.

snooker and darts get my vote :lol:

[Beeston Brawler]

If you had cricket in the Olympics, it would be as follows:

Tests

Gold - Australia
Silver - South Africa
Bronze - England

ODI

Gold - Australia
Silver - Sri Lanka
Bronze - South Africa

T20

Gold - India
Silver - Sri Lanka
Bronze - ****stan

South Africa would do their usual choking against Australia, Brett Lee & Nathan Bracken vs Graeme Smith & Herschelle Gibbs would be an interesting tussle in the ODI, but there would only be one winner.

[trotter]

snooker and darts get my vote :lol:

Is some kind of BMX event not in there?

[trotter]

I am amazed how we have smoked everyone in the velodrome.

Legacy of the Commonwealth games in Manchester...

[SouthLondonsFinest]

another gold.... pendleton destroys the aussie

guaranteed another one with Hoy or Kenny.. yooo

[Beeston Brawler]

Quality, now up to 15 golds including the men's race which will follow.

[SouthLondonsFinest]

GOLD AND SILVER TEAM GB- hoy AND KENNY

[jameswilson]

Haha, they have just shown the medal table for cycling alone. There have been 10 events and we have won 7 golds, 3 silvers and 2 bronzes.

[Beeston Brawler]

No doubt people will criticise our eventual tally and come up with something like 'they only won in bloody cycling'.

But I don't give a fuck - I would quite happily watch us dominate cycling, rowing etc for the next 20 years, and hope we will someday dominate everything else as well.

I think these games have really made people proud to be British again, something which is lacking in modern society due to political correctness and left wing leadership - not to mention pathetic performances from our ridiculously overpaid and mollycoddled football players.

:woot :lol99 :party :partytime

[JonOli]

:yep

:D You guys better pull your socks up.

[jameswilson]

Gold for Ohurogu.

[Eubank]

EASY :happy EASY :happy EASY :happy

Another Gold.

[Beeston Brawler]

Sanya Richards will be re-living those last 100 metres for the rest of her days :rofl

It was brave tactics from the Brit hanging back, but fantastic. Beating an American on the line as well. Sheer bliss :party

[SouthLondonsFinest]

hahah, boooooooooooooom!! Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi - love it

[jameswilson]

Man Iv got a sore throat from shouting for Christine there. I was just screaming 'COME ON KICK KICK KICK KICK FUCKING KICK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS GET IN THERE!!!!!!!!!!!'

for that last 100m

[Beeston Brawler]

I was as well....

We found the biggest monitor in the office and all watched - just a shame Sanders didn't qualify, we could have had another 1-2 just to shove it up the Yankee-doodles even more!

[mr_swagger]

I think these games have really made people proud to be British again, something which is lacking in modern society due to political correctness and left wing leadership - not to mention pathetic performances from our ridiculously overpaid and mollycoddled football players.

:woot :lol99 :party :partytime

I kind of agree with everything you say but I am curious as to where exactly these 'left wing' leaders are?

[Beeston Brawler]

Well.....

They seem to let every bugger in who wants to come in. Time to leave the EU and this free movement of people nonsense and use an Aussie style system - points based, market forces and demand dictated.

Scrap the ridiculous Human Rights nonsense. Basically this can be construed to mean anything - a common sense approach must surely kick in.

Tougher sentences for higher level crime, and fines rather than prison sentences for petty criminals. Also, when in the slammer they should be forced to do public works under strict supervision rather than playing snooker and shagging all day - that way, prison would rehabilitate people worth rehabilitating.

Scrap benefits for those who refuse to work. Three months is surely enough to get a job. If not, no money from the state. Also, reduce incapacity benefit to take into account ability to work. For instance, a brickie with a bad back shouldn't be allowed to sit on his arse at home earning close to full money. He should be out there doing something he can do easily, and receive money as a top up.

[Eubank]

Well.....

They seem to let every bugger in who wants to come in. Time to leave the EU and this free movement of people nonsense and use an Aussie style system - points based, market forces and demand dictated.

Scrap the ridiculous Human Rights nonsense. Basically this can be construed to mean anything - a common sense approach must surely kick in.

Tougher sentences for higher level crime, and fines rather than prison sentences for petty criminals. Also, when in the slammer they should be forced to do public works under strict supervision rather than playing snooker and shagging all day - that way, prison would rehabilitate people worth rehabilitating.

Scrap benefits for those who refuse to work. Three months is surely enough to get a job. If not, no money from the state. Also, reduce incapacity benefit to take into account ability to work. For instance, a brickie with a bad back shouldn't be allowed to sit on his arse at home earning close to full money. He should be out there doing something he can do easily, and receive money as a top up.

What is wrong with the human rights act?

[Beeston Brawler]

Other than everything, not a right lot IMO.

[mr_swagger]

Well.....

They seem to let every bugger in who wants to come in. Time to leave the EU and this free movement of people nonsense and use an Aussie style system - points based, market forces and demand dictated.

Scrap the ridiculous Human Rights nonsense. Basically this can be construed to mean anything - a common sense approach must surely kick in.

Tougher sentences for higher level crime, and fines rather than prison sentences for petty criminals. Also, when in the slammer they should be forced to do public works under strict supervision rather than playing snooker and shagging all day - that way, prison would rehabilitate people worth rehabilitating.

Scrap benefits for those who refuse to work. Three months is surely enough to get a job. If not, no money from the state. Also, reduce incapacity benefit to take into account ability to work. For instance, a brickie with a bad back shouldn't be allowed to sit on his arse at home earning close to full money. He should be out there doing something he can do easily, and receive money as a top up.

I think the prison idea in principle is good, although the strict supervision of criminals would be extremely expensive, unless the government created purpose built factories for example, which would allow them to be housed together.

Benefits are definitely a big problem. We are creating a sub culture of people who won't work and feel the state owes them a living. I can't argue with that. It is becoming harder to find a job at the moment though and decent hard working people who have paid taxes all of their lives should not be treated like spongers. I have a lot of sympathy for people on incapacity benefits (genuine ones) not least because my dad is medically retired. I don't think your idea is particularly bad but I'm not sure how easy it would be for many people on incapacity benefits to get a job that they are able to do. If you are going to create legislation like this then the government would need to take the lead. For example, my dad cannot retain information (extreme short term memory loss due to a stroke). He went back to work after a long rehabilitation but couldn't cope. There are countless jobs that he could do but whether these employers would be that interested in hiring a man in his late 50s with this kind of handicap is another matter entirely.

Fining petty criminals might address some of these scumbags but at least half of petty crime is related to drugs and drug addiction. You can fine a smack head whatever you want but he isn't going to be able to pay it. You can put them in prison but it will be easier for them to get smack there than at home; they won't even need to leave the house! I'm really not sure what the answer to that problem is.

I sympathise with people who are alarmed by mass immigration (economic migration not asylum seekers) but its only what the British have been doing for centuries. These people work very hard. Unfortunately, their presence is used by the 'can't work/won't work' brigade as an excuse for them not having a job. Besides, many of the immigrants that have come to Britain will shortly be leaving because our economy is fucked and there are few benefits of being here at the moment. Most of their own countries are very much on the up and they plan to go back there anyway.

I'm at a loss how to sort things out but I do think that you have identified some areas that, if addressed, could make a positive difference. Just as long as the measures are not extreme enough to treat the decent people like they are one and the same with the pondlife that are currently blighting everyone's lives and turning the country into a cultural wasteland.

Anyway, let's get back to the Olympics

16 golds and now 2 boxers on at least a bronze.

'Let's 'ave it!!!' :good

[Beeston Brawler]

Some very valid points - I suppose the incapacity benefit one was raised because my grandad was forced to quit his job because he couldn't hack it anymore due to a heart attack and ended up being a commissionaire for the rest of his working days.

With the drugs and what not, I suppose everyone is divided on what to do - I hate them more than pikeys, they are the scum of the earth, both users and dealers, and I have no time for any of them.

Back to topic - yeah class, looking forward to Martyn Rooney and Christian Malcolm tomorrow, and if I am right, Degale is up as well!

[Eubank]

A Bronze and a Silver in the Womens 10k swimming race. A Russian just stole the gold. Good start to the day.

[DamonD]

Not just stole it, literally grabbed Cassie by the ankles and yanked her backwards. It's rough in the 10k! Elbows and all...apparently that's quite standard too. Not exactly the Olympic spirit eh?

Bronze for Bryony Shaw too, though sadly Nick Dempsey had a 'mare and finished 4th.

[teke]

Bury this thread already cunts :D

Bring it back when the Commonwealth games are on

[icemax]

Bury this thread already cunts :D

Bring it back when the Commonwealth games are on

Fuck me, a polite Australian :hey :tong

[Words]

Scrap benefits for those who refuse to work. Three months is surely enough to get a job. If not, no money from the state. Also, reduce incapacity benefit to take into account ability to work. For instance, a brickie with a bad back shouldn't be allowed to sit on his arse at home earning close to full money. He should be out there doing something he can do easily, and receive money as a top up.

Are you fucking stupid or something? What if you LEGITIMATELY cant find a job? Do you starve to death in the street?

Perhaps you'd like to suggest bringing back the Workhouse for those who cant find a job in less than 3 months and go the whole hog?

How do you explain to a family with no income why they're starving? "coz your mum is a leeching parasite" isn't going to console them. If reactionary idiots like you were in power there'd be people fucking starving.

And for the love of god dont advocate Australia as a model for racial integration, its the most ignorant backwards racist country in that part of the hemisphere. Only the Deep South of America and apartheid South Africa are worse in the english-speaking world.

[pelious]

Are you fucking stupid or something? What if you LEGITIMATELY cant find a job? Do you starve to death in the street?

Perhaps you'd like to suggest bringing back the Workhouse for those who cant find a job in less than 3 months and go the whole hog?

How do you explain to a family with no income why they're starving? "coz your mum is a leeching parasite" isn't going to console them. If reactionary idiots like you were in power there'd be people fucking starving.

And for the love of god dont advocate Australia as a model for racial integration, its the most ignorant backwards racist country in that part of the hemisphere. Only the Deep South of America and apartheid South Africa are worse in the english-speaking world. im english and i find whats just sprouted out of this blokes arse ( sorry mouth ) is uneducated and foolish as the australians have alot better way of life. I mean would you prefer to live lancashire or qeensbury, come on get a grip politics over there alot better than ours, "ifs there no room, dont let them in" if you dont work you dont get the luxurys of life. thats the message that us english (sorry british) should adhere to.

[JonOli]

Olympics.... Australia KO1 England

:rofl

[LiamE]

Olympics.... Australia KO1 England

Not the greatest prediction there Nostradamus.

[WhataRock]

England is not beating Australia, Great Britain is. :D

Nothing stimulates the sporting scene in oz like loosing to England or GB, so thats one positive that can come out of this.
Though I will be completely gutted if things keep going the way they are.

Even though the Aussies are still doing really well, we dont gauge our success on medal tallies, where we finish on the table or how many Personal bests are broken..its all about beating the British and if we dont its not mission accomplished. :lol:

If we are still behind you guys by the end of the games I will declare a week of mourning over at the Aussie Forum.

[WhataRock]

And for the love of god dont advocate Australia as a model for racial integration, its the most ignorant backwards racist country in that part of the hemisphere. Only the Deep South of America and apartheid South Africa are worse in the english-speaking world.

Australia is far from perfect but having lived in Britain and Australia
Australia win pts over Britain for racial integration.

Ask any of my "Pakï" mates whose family have moved from England because they are spat on or have their businesses firebombed or smashed up because they are asian.

Ill ask any of my Welsh, Scottish or Irish work colleagues who came over here to escape the english hegemony thats worked against them for centuries.

In fact Ill look at my fucking sister in laws face because it bears a scar of a racist attack because in her attackers words "shes a fucking gook". This was walking through Preston in broad daylight.

Any racist model australia still has was transplanted from your country old mate.

[pecks]

Most Brits in the lounge are judging the tally per capita, or at least thats what they're saying to the Americans, so I'll run with that as well which means we're still kicking your arse. :smooch

[SouthLondonsFinest]

Most Brits in the lounge are judging the tally per capita, or at least thats what they're saying to the Americans, so I'll run with that as well which means we're still kicking your arse. :smooch


hahaha, whatever suits mate whatever suits, u should really worry about catching the ruskis or maybe even worse the krauts over taking you. :happy

[SouthLondonsFinest]

Australia is far from perfect but having lived in Britain and Australia
Australia win pts over Britain for racial integration.

Ask any of my "Pakï" mates whose family have moved from England because they are spat on or have their businesses firebombed or smashed up because they are asian.

Ill ask any of my Welsh, Scottish or Irish work colleagues who came over here to escape the english hegemony thats worked against them for centuries.

In fact Ill look at my fucking sister in laws face because it bears a scar of a racist attack because in her attackers words "shes a fucking gook". This was walking through Preston in broad daylight.

Any racist model australia still has was transplanted from your country old mate.

what a load of bollox

[Strike]

what a load of bollox
Exactly. Fire bombed shops.:lol::patsch There are Asian owned shops in every town in Britain and lots of them. There are very few racist attacks, the days of the NF in the 80s are long gone.

And what really showed that post up was the use of the word "gook". That slur is not even known by most people in Britain. They would say "ch*nk". Gook is almost totally used in Australia and to a lesser extent the US.
So the idea that some guy in Preston was using Aussie racial slang is a farce.

We have far more mixed race couples and nothing that is even comparable to the white vs "abo" stuff in Australia.

[Beeston Brawler]

Are you fucking stupid or something? What if you LEGITIMATELY cant find a job? Do you starve to death in the street?

Perhaps you'd like to suggest bringing back the Workhouse for those who cant find a job in less than 3 months and go the whole hog?

How do you explain to a family with no income why they're starving? "coz your mum is a leeching parasite" isn't going to console them. If reactionary idiots like you were in power there'd be people fucking starving.

And for the love of god dont advocate Australia as a model for racial integration, its the most ignorant backwards racist country in that part of the hemisphere. Only the Deep South of America and apartheid South Africa are worse in the english-speaking world.

You can surely get a job in three months if you try hard enough, instead they sit on their arse playing on the XBox, of course paid for by the taxpayer.

The State shouldn't be expected to feed people who refuse to work, that money could be better spent on ensuring that pensioners don't freeze to death during the winter, or by improving our schools and public services.

Australia is a much better model than Britain for immigration - if you don't have the skills and cannot contribute you aren't coming in, rather than the 'jobs for the boys' attitude that we have. Telling people to find somewhere else upon applcation to enter the UK to live is NOT racist

If I said 'I hate ****s' that is racist.

If I said 'I hate blacks' that is racist.

If I said 'You do not have the required skills to enter our country' or 'The skills you have are not a necessity in our country at present, feel free to apply in future' that is NOT racist.

[ron u.k.]

Australia is far from perfect but having lived in Britain and Australia
Australia win pts over Britain for racial integration.

Ask any of my "Pakï" mates whose family have moved from England because they are spat on or have their businesses firebombed or smashed up because they are asian.

Ill ask any of my Welsh, Scottish or Irish work colleagues who came over here to escape the english hegemony thats worked against them for centuries.

In fact Ill look at my fucking sister in laws face because it bears a scar of a racist attack because in her attackers words "shes a fucking gook". This was walking through Preston in broad daylight.

Any racist model australia still has was transplanted from your country old mate.what an absolute and utter generalising bag of shite.think of all the asians,celts,africans,east europeans and seemingly any other nationality that makes it to the shores of the dreaded rascist england,i mean none of them are doing well are they? they're all being attacked aren't they and of course particularily the asians they don't enjoy a good standard of living do they? i mean they're all queing up to leave in their droves aren't they?

[WhataRock]

Exactly. Fire bombed shops.:lol::patsch There are Asian owned shops in every town in Britain and lots of them. There are very few racist attacks, the days of the NF in the 80s are long gone.

And what really showed that post up was the use of the word "gook". That slur is not even known by most people in Britain. They would say "ch*nk". Gook is almost totally used in Australia and to a lesser extent the US.
So the idea that some guy in Preston was using Aussie racial slang is a farce.

We have far more mixed race couples and nothing that is even comparable to the white vs "abo" stuff in Australia.


Look..that was worded poorly and I deserve a dressing down because of that. I got a little peeved because I live in a very multicultural area and have friends of different ethnicities so in my experience it mostly works down here. And when that bloke compared us to apartheid I thought it was uncalled for. I have lived in Britain and there is plenty of racism there, Ive seen it and nothing you can say will erase what I saw and heard. But you know what I saw even more racism in Indonesia, UAE and Brazil.

I DO have A mate whose family DID move over here only 2 years ago because his they were harrassed and however they say it was mostly because of black brits and some riot that occured where they lived in. He goes for Aston Villa so wherever they are from
BUT they did move from another area because they lived in a place that backed on to council flats and they were harrassed almost daily by white brits, who would throw bottles from a higher floor on to their house. They truly think things are better here for a south asian family than over there.

And that comment about my sister in law will not be laughed at, so fuck off. Its an issue that hits very close to home and it has left her with a scar for life. My brother was also assualted in that attack but he would be the first to admit that it was mainly just a gang of kids who were fucked off their head and looking for a fight.
My brother said she was called a gook, thats the way I tell the story They may not have been the exact words said but he is adament they said some racist things to her whilst glassing her with a bottle.
I do quite a bit of demographical work at uni and Preston has one of the worst racially motivated assualts in Britain.

The White vs Abo "thing" is a national shame but far for complicated than most outsiders realise.


Im done on this topic...pisses me off to much.

[elias]

Australia is a more racist country than Britain. It's impossible to refute this.

Even really nice Aussie people tend to go red in the face whenever the Aborigines are mentioned.

[T.C.W]

Australia is a more racist country than Britain. It's impossible to refute this.

Even really nice Aussie people tend to go red in the face whenever the Aborigines are mentioned.look most people in australia don't give a fuck about abo's, 90% of them a drunken bums, there just flat out pathatic, with zero self respect and any race of people let alcohol do to them what it does to the abo's are just nothings.

[T.C.W]

GB is doing very well.

[kurt2006]

look most people in australia don't give a fuck about abo's, 90% of them a drunken bums, there just flat out pathatic, with zero self respect and any race of people let alcohol do to them what it does to the abo's are just nothings.

Fuck you bitch ass whore face cock sucker. Who introduced the aborigines to alcohol ? You fuckers so you could steal the land from them a bit easier. Best way to kill a nation is genocide or introduce alcohol and other narcotics till they go loopy.

Most white aussies are racist brainless fcks especially the Shane Warne look alikes.

[T.C.W]

Fuck you bitch ass whore face cock sucker. Who introduced the aborigines to alcohol ? You fuckers so you could steal the land from them a bit easier. Best way to kill a nation is genocide or introduce alcohol and other narcotics till they go loopy.

Most white aussies are racist brainless fcks especially the Shane Warne look alikes.let me guess you have never been to australia, look you can't change history what done is done, it was over 200 years ago and it is not going to change, so that is excuse for these people to live like scum and drink not take care of there children, there a waste of space.

[kurt2006]

let me guess you have never been to australia, look you can't change history what done is done, it was over 200 years ago and it is not going to change, so that is excuse for these people to live like scum and drink not take care of there children, there a waste of space.

Who wants to go to that shithole, you can stick your home and away, neighbours and rupert murdoch up the crack of your ass.

Who said they did not look after their children ? You the australian h-onkey mother fcks.

[Beeston Brawler]

Warney is a legend :deal

[T.C.W]

Who wants to go to that shithole, you can stick your home and away, neighbours and rupert murdoch up the crack of your ass.

Who said they did not look after their children ? You the australian h-onkey mother fcks.ok mate you sound like a well rounded person, very worldly, I know if you came out here to Australia and seen this stuff with your own eyes, you would be shocked by it, these people are just pathatic.

[kurt2006]

Australia = most racist country ever

England = one of the most mutl-cultural and diverse countries: everyone wants to come over here

True, even aussies are deperate to come to the UK, Mark Bosnich is round London every other week looking for Charlie, all those faggots from neighbours and home & away are over here every few months begging for money.

[Beeston Brawler]

Australia = most racist country ever

England = one of the most mutl-cultural and diverse countries: everyone wants to come over here

Because we are a soft touch

Australia isn't racist, they simply have a criteria for entry which is designed towards helping the country prosper. Refusing entry to people who don't have skills is a good idea

Rather than giving them house and home at the expense of the hard working taxpayer.

[kurt2006]

ok mate you sound like a well rounded person, very worldly, I know if you came out here to Australia and seen this stuff with your own eyes, you would be shocked by it, these people are just pathatic.

You beginning to sound like a national front/ BNP soundbite.

I am actually rounded, travelled all over the place apart from shitty OZ.

[T.C.W]

You beginning to sound like a national front/ BNP soundbite.

I am actually rounded, travelled all over the place apart from shitty OZ.I just don't care about abo's and there drunkness and flat out pathatic behaviour, there just nothings most of them.

[kurt2006]

I just don't care about abo's and there drunkness and flat out pathatic behaviour, there just nothings most of them.

Are you Pauline Hansons husband ? or her lesbian lover ?

[mr_swagger]

so youve met every single aboriginy have you? you shouldnt sterotype


That's priceless coming from someone who just referred to Ricky Hatton's Mancunian fans as being 'idiots'.

[Beeston Brawler]

hmmm sounds BNP talk to me :nono :nono :nono

Not at all.

I would term BNP talk to be the following:

I hate blacks

Kick all the ****s out

[kurt2006]

Not at all.

I would term BNP talk to be the following:

I hate blacks

Kick all the ****s out

Not at the meetings I go to, they tell me I am the same as them and even eat the same food as them.

[Beeston Brawler]

If they weren't racist I would be pleased to support a British National Party - i.e. in the form that the Scottish National Party operates.

They have some good ideas on the way things ought to be run, whilst the current crop are just clueless.

I think too much money is wasted on un-important things, like the EU, benefits, jails etc. They ought to be making a profit out of prisoners, rather than them costing us £30k a year each.

[Beeston Brawler]

It has already been destroyed - built on a mountain of debt.

[trotter]

dont believe everything you read in the newspapers, the economy isnt as bad as they make out. of course it wont be the same as it was in the last 10 years but UK economy is more then capable then getting through these difficult times.........the BNP are a joke, they'll never get into power and if they ever do they'll fuck this country up so badly it would never be able to recover

Jesus wept.

It is as bad as they make out sunshine and you know what, it could get REALLY ugly in the fullness of time. The pain hasn't even started to spread yet. The knock on effects will be devastating for many people.

The cost of living will shoot up the next couple of years and wages won't. So you've not bought anything. You've not changed jobs. But all of a sudden, you're poorer. That will not be fun.

People have fuelled this boom by releasing 'equity' in property but that party is well and truly over. But you know what, people have got used to buying that Plasma TV, that new car, throwing the extra groceries in the basket, taking City breaks. Better get un-used to these luxuries.

The hangover is well and truly on the way.

I hate to say this but I work in a media outlet in the finance industry. I'm no expert but I know a little bit. And it isn't good.

All the indicators are pointing in the wrong direction - at the same time.

[Beeston Brawler]

I am probably one of very few in a good position.

Having refused to be ripped off by staying off the property ladder and staying with parents, I have been able to save a shitload of money for when the prices fall further.

[kurt2006]

I am probably one of very few in a good position.

Having refused to be ripped off by staying off the property ladder and staying with parents, I have been able to save a shitload of money for when the prices fall further.

Can you still buy houses up north for £10K ?

[mr_swagger]

only the people who spent money they didnt have will suffer and to be honest it serves them right. the cost of living will go up but as long as your not in debt and are willing to give up some luxuries you should be ok


The name for 'spending money you don't have' is a mortgage. With interest rates on the rise and money becoming scarcer, people are losing their jobs and the knock on effect will be that they will also lose their homes. Not every person who suffers in a recession has 10 maxed out credit cards and a wardrobe full of nice shoes. Wake up! Oh, and by the way, the economy is fucked and we are heading for a serious recession, as is the rest of the world I would imagine.

[mr_swagger]

err no you idiot, i was talking about people taking overdrafts and loans to buy luxury goods. In the UK, the people owe over 1 trillion pounds, thats why the economy was doing so good, people were borrow money from banks and went out shopping, buy things they didnt really need. Now due to the credit crunch, banks arnt as willing to lend money to joe public. maybe if you new a few things about economics and what is happening all around the world you might leave a half decent responce. stop reading the sun and start reading the FT boy

Irrespective of what you meant, that is not what you said. You said 'only the people who spent money they didnt have will suffer and to be honest it serves them right.'

The U.K. is full of people who have lived beyond their means and they will not be able to pay the money back. I have a big problem with this also, but if you're going to say shit like the above quote, people are going to respond.

As a matter of fact, I don't have the time to read weighty newpapers anymore as I'm too busy working (on 6 week holidays at the moment mind:yep ) I have never insulted anyone on ESB before, ever, but I can tell you 'boy', having watched your cack-handed efforts over the course of today, that you are prize bell end!

[mr_swagger]

i dont wanna be rude to you as it seems like im making enemies with everyone but surely you would have the common sence you realise that when i said 'only the people who spent money they didnt have will suffer and to be honest it serves them right,' I did not mean those who have a mortgage. if you really wanna get technical, those who took mortgage deals at 100% or over, have got what comings to them. didnt people realise these deals were way to good to be true and it wouldnt last? tut tut tut the stupidity of some people!!!

'Common sense' doesn't really seem to be your ouvre to be honest.

[ron u.k.]

Because we are a soft touch

Australia isn't racist, they simply have a criteria for entry which is designed towards helping the country prosper. Refusing entry to people who don't have skills is a good idea

Rather than giving them house and home at the expense of the hard working taxpayer.i agree,i know there's a bit of banter going on here,but really the aussies have got it right.you need immigration but to let any tom,dick,or harry in like we do is stupidity.

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Makes you proud to be a convict doesn't it?

You fucks have no idea. Your living in the most empty place on earth. HOW THE FUCK IS AUSTRALIA FULL?!?!?!

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[pecks]

hahaha, whatever suits mate whatever suits, u should really worry about catching the ruskis or maybe even worse the krauts over taking you. :happy:D
I think our last shot at a gold medal sunk when our mens hockey team lost last night.

The Germans and Russians will almost certainly finish ahead of us.

[pecks]

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Makes you proud to be a convict doesn't it?

You fucks have no idea. Your living in the most empty place on earth. HOW THE FUCK IS AUSTRALIA FULL?!?!?!

[Only registered and activated users can see links] how about you enlighten us all on the subject?!

Do you know what happened then, before and after?
My guess is you have no fucking idea, and your brain is overclocking as it is just by viewing pictures.

Racial crimes are more severe in England than here in Australia.

[icemax]

Australia isn't racist, they simply have a criteria for entry which is designed towards helping the country prosper. Refusing entry to people who don't have skills is a good idea



I agree. We could start by shipping back home the largest immigrant population in this country, the black eyed **Irish. :hi: If we did that you would have absolutely shitloads of room to move around Leeds.

**I am being sarcastic, so no hate mail please :good

[Beeston Brawler]

Controversial.......

[icemax]

Controversial.......

An immigrant is an immigrant, regardless of where they come from.....or are we only refusing immigrants of a certain type?

[Beeston Brawler]

No

[ron u.k.]

An immigrant is an immigrant, regardless of where they come from.....or are we only refusing immigrants of a certain type?but you're all immigrants!

[john b]

Britain have definately exceeded my expectations finishing third just below the two superpowers is brilliant.

[SouthLondonsFinest]

Britain have definately exceeded my expectations finishing third just below the two superpowers is brilliant.

me thinks the ruskis will finsish above us unfort

[SouthLondonsFinest]

well done hooker , stopped the ruski winning and over taking team GB - Hooker is the first Aussie male in 60years to win GOLD in athletics - damn thats a long time to wait

[john b]

What chances do you think degale will have against the cuban.

[icemax]

but you're all immigrants!

Same as the Aussies

[Jack Dempsey]

Cant we all just get along???

[BoppaZoo]

well done hooker , stopped the ruski winning and over taking team GB - Hooker is the first Aussie male in 60years to win GOLD in athletics - damn thats a long time to waitDid you watch it SLF.

Mate it was the most excited ive been this games. Was great to watch both men go at it with how many final attempts.

[LiamE]

well done hooker , stopped the ruski winning and over taking team GB - Hooker is the first Aussie male in 60years to win GOLD in athletics - damn thats a long time to wait

If only they had a better climate.

[JonOli]

Its just too sunny and dry over there, their athletes can't work out in it. They don't have the cold nights to toughen them up as well. IF only the aussies had a better climate they could be as good as us in the Olympica. :D

[JonOli]

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:yep

[kel]

Its just too sunny and dry over there, their athletes can't work out in it. They don't have the cold nights to toughen them up as well. IF only the aussies had a better climate they could be as good as us in the Olympica. :D


Yeah if only we had more people to choose from :patsch

20mil compared to the UK 80mil or so

For every gold medal we get you shld get 4 :deal

[pecks]

Its just too sunny and dry over there, their athletes can't work out in it. They don't have the cold nights to toughen them up as well. IF only the aussies had a better climate they could be as good as us in the Olympica. :DPerhaps if we didn't have teeth as well, it would serve as a bigger motivational tool to go that extra few yards to win gold. Being fully accountable in the teeth department has perhaps made us a bit complacent.

[Coogee2034]

...i truely never saw this coming haha

[riggers]

80 million mmmm try 60million, and lots of them could not represent us , we have slightly different rules on who can represent GB. For example if a load of Hungarian high jumpers moved to London they could not get on our team.

Can any of you guys recommend a good Aussie WHine to have with my lunch ?

[JonOli]

Perhaps if we didn't have teeth as well, it would serve as a bigger motivational tool to go that extra few yards to win gold. Being fully accountable in the teeth department has perhaps made us a bit complacent.

What a load of bad sports aye. Ya whinging aussies... :rofl

[Eubank]

I can remember when Australia were good at sport.

[pecks]

What a load of bad sports aye. Ya whinging aussies... :roflIt's all good fun, though I do wish we had of finished ahead of you.

In the end, you guys did great, I thought we'd be pretty much level pegging and that you'd have a much better games than in Athens.
we did fairly good too. Missed a few gold in the pool, but got a few surprise ones in the last few days.

Unlike the 2005 Ashes series where it appears it was a win out of the blue, I think the trend will continue and you should finish stronger in the next few set of games.

Congrats, now I'm off to go rub it in to some Kiwi's about how we smashed them in the Olympics. :hi:

[Jack Dempsey]

It's all good fun, though I do wish we had of finished ahead of you.

In the end, you guys did great, I thought we'd be pretty much level pegging and that you'd have a much better games than in Athens.
we did fairly good too. Missed a few gold in the pool, but got a few surprise ones in the last few days.

Unlike the 2005 Ashes series where it appears it was a win out of the blue, I think the trend will continue and you should finish stronger in the next few set of games.

Congrats, now I'm off to go rub it in to some Kiwi's about how we smashed them in the Olympics. :hi:

Top man:good

Fuck them Kiwis

[kel]

It's all good fun, though I do wish we had of finished ahead of you.

In the end, you guys did great, I thought we'd be pretty much level pegging and that you'd have a much better games than in Athens.
we did fairly good too. Missed a few gold in the pool, but got a few surprise ones in the last few days.

Unlike the 2005 Ashes series where it appears it was a win out of the blue, I think the trend will continue and you should finish stronger in the next few set of games.

Congrats, now I'm off to go rub it in to some Kiwi's about how we smashed them in the Olympics. :hi:


Hey Pecks maybe we shld embrace the kiwi's and add there medals to our tally :lol: :lol: :lol: Although i think the poms still beat us :patsch

P.S Do any of the poms know why they did so well in the cycling? I think u guys won 7 or 8 gold. We won zero in the cycling compared to winning 4 or 5 in Athens.

[ghostlybadge]

Hey Pecks maybe we shld embrace the kiwi's and add there medals to our tally :lol: :lol: :lol: Although i think the poms still beat us :patsch

P.S Do any of the poms know why they did so well in the cycling? I think u guys won 7 or 8 gold. We won zero in the cycling compared to winning 4 or 5 in Athens.

we have invested shit loads of goverment an lottery funding into sports where we know we can pick up medels such as rowing sailing and cycling. we also have multinational companies and researchers working for the BOC finding ways of redesigning the bikes and everything thaty goes with racing making us better.

[jameswilson]

we have invested shit loads of goverment an lottery funding into sports where we know we can pick up medels such as rowing sailing and cycling. we also have multinational companies and researchers working for the BOC finding ways of redesigning the bikes and everything thaty goes with racing making us better.

I think the coaching has a lot to do with it as well. I think the advances in the bike design have only come in, in recent years and we were pretty dominant a few years ago still (albeit not quite this dominant.)

The British cycling coaching team are very sought after now but I think we will manage to keep hold of them as the next Olympics are in London.

I think our cycling success can be comparable to Australia's success in swimming for the last few games, here in Britain in the last 10 years there havent been many Olympic standard swimming pools (50m long) in the UK. I was a competitive swimmer when I was young and even when I swam in Welsh national finals it was in Swansea in a 25m pool. In Aus from what I heard there were excellent training facilities and coaching for the Aussie swimmers even from a young age. This will have all been down to money, and now in recent years we've put money into swimming and we have seen the start of some fruition to that funding.

I dont think there's been a huge amount of money put into rowing tho, we've been succesful in that for over 20 years I think now. There's a culture of rowing in this country and every University has a rowing team that are motivated, The Boat race is televised every year and of course we always see the coxless fours mens team win the Gold every Olympics which encourages the big young men to go into it. Id say with Cycling its a case of funding breeding success and with rowing its been a case of success breeding more success. As for sailing I think thats just bred into us, being an island race we could hardly be piss poor at sailing otherwise any fucker would be able to come and take us over back in the Imperial days.

[SouthLondonsFinest]

Yeah if only we had more people to choose from :patsch

20mil compared to the UK 80mil or so

For every gold medal we get you shld get 4 :deal

mate you just added 20mil to our popultation , niceone


you had 100 more athletes at the games than us.

[kel]

mate you just added 20mil to our popultation , niceone


you had 100 more athletes at the games than us.

:lol: I did say 80mil or so, oh well i was a little off.

100 more athletes :think are you sure??? If this is true i'm very surprised/disappointed in our comparable results then.

[pecks]

:lol: I did say 80mil or so, oh well i was a little off.

100 more athletes :think are you sure??? If this is true i'm very surprised/disappointed in our comparable results then.p4p, we do well in the games, though we always have a very high number of participants, which might suggest that we've a nation of fit people. Though we've recently been rated the #1 fattest nation on earth. Go figure.