Why is Katsidis v Diaz only 10 rounds ?

[Peterp]

At this level, every fight should be 12 rounds

[ipswich express]

Why? No title will be at stake.

[WhataRock]

It on T.V isnt it? The main event of that particular card?

Its a fight against two of the best in the division, I would have expected it to be over 12 and often fights at this level have non-title 12 rounders.

That being said this could help Mick (but then again it might not), Diaz is a proven campaigner in the longer fights and Rocky is more of a sprinter than a stayer.

[pne buz]

I dont think it matters,it probably wont go 10!

[Kegsy]

If anything i agree with WhataRock, it def suits Katsidis that the fight is a 10 rounder.
I doubt it will go that far tho.

[WhataRock]

You guys dont reckon?

As much as I hate to admit it, IMO the smart money is Diaz via points decision.
I even think Rocky can win on points by just bashing Diaz and negating his workrate with power (easier said than done though). Juan is pretty strong and pretty tough, he took a little bit of punishment against Nate and has stood up to some decent punchers.

[ipswich express]

The only reason it would've been a 12 rounder is if there was a title at stake or it was an eliminator for one.

[Big Ears]

The only reason it would've been a 12 rounder is if there was a title at stake or it was an eliminator for one.

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You see the headline bout on that card, that wasn't an eliminator for anything. Bouts like that aren't particulary common, merely because of the amount of trinkets that go around nowdays which make most 12 round fights 'title' fights. However they are permitted and Katsidis and Diaz is the type of contest you would expect to be 12 rounds regardless of titles.

The loser of that bout(Yuri Romanov) is starting to become a pretty serious player in the Lightweight division. I felt he should of got the decision that night and if he hadn't of been so rusty he surely would of stopped Earl.
Nevertheless he has come back from that and is one of the men Frank ****** fears most in as far as being an Amir Khan opponent goes.

[roscoe]

I agree the 10 rds definately will favour Kats than Diaz. I think it will be a war whilst it lasts but I think people overlook how good a fighter the baby bull is, no disrespect to Kats who continues to step up everytime win or lose, he is mixing it with the best in the world & all props to him for this. I hope he finds a way to win but the Diaz is one tough, experienced fighter.

[MSTR]

This one will be lucky to go ten rounds. Katsidis will have to tighten up his defence a HELL of a lot more. He is going to eat a lot of leather.

I love Katsidis as a fighter, but i think its time to face the music guys, he just has a crap chin.

I rate his chin as about level with Mundine and Judahs. Difference being those guys are LEAGUES better defensively than Kat.

[pecks]

This one will be lucky to go ten rounds. Katsidis will have to tighten up his defence a HELL of a lot more. He is going to eat a lot of leather.

I love Katsidis as a fighter, but i think its time to face the music guys, he just has a crap chin.

I rate his chin as about level with Mundine and Judahs. Difference being those guys are LEAGUES better defensively than Kat.Enough boxing talk!

It's time to upload some titty pics from your holiday. :hey

How was it anyway?

[MSTR]

Enough boxing talk!

It's time to upload some titty pics from your holiday. :hey

How was it anyway?

haha, it was good mate. I'll post something up in the next day or so going through it, when i am away from work. Been a bit busy atm.

[ipswich express]

You see the headline bout on that card, that wasn't an eliminator for anything.

It was from January 2006! :lol:

[teke]

It was from January 2006! :lol:[Only registered and activated users can see links]

[LeonMcS]

Was that at your last family reunion Teke?

The reason it is ten rounds is they are using the metric system. Simple.

[Big Ears]

It was from January 2006! :lol:

It came into my head because it was a former Katsidis opponent(Graham Earl) that fought in it, but there is no rule against 12 round non-title fights which was basically my point. If they wanted it sanctioned for 12 without a title they would of got it.

[Phil Austin]

This fight is now over 12 rounds and is sanctioned for the IBO lightweight title

[Kegsy]

This fight is now over 12 rounds and is sanctioned for the IBO lightweight title
Good stuff Phil, cant wait.:good

[perfect jet]

This fight is now over 12 rounds and is sanctioned for the IBO lightweight title

Two fighters coming off a loss fighting for a world title. Nice.

IBO computer generated Phil? lol

[Phil Austin]

Juan Diaz is rated 3, Katisidis 21 both well within the Top-35. Fighters coming off a loss fighting for a world title? Never happened before has it PJ?

[perfect jet]

Juan Diaz is rated 3, Katisidis 21 both well within the Top-35. Fighters coming off a loss fighting for a world title? Never happened before has it PJ?

I've seen title fights where one guy is coming off a loss, but I can't recall EVER hearing of a LEGITIMATE title fight where BOTH guys are coming off losses, and the guys they lost to are still active in the division.

Since it obviously has happened according to you, I challenge you to provide me with ONE example?

[perfect jet]

Don't bombard me with evidence Phil lol

[BoppaZoo]

Who Cares as long as it doesnt get postponed.

[CJLightweight]

i hope katsidis had improvements now

[Phil Austin]

Sorry perfect jet, I actually have a life and other committments even though I should have put aside my work, family and masonic commitments to reply straight awaY!
One example straight away I can think of is Doug DeWitt V Robbie Sims for the vacant WBO 160lb title and I am sure I could provide others given enough spare time and motivation.
At the end of the day how can you rubbish this match up? Juan Diaz has lost only once and is still one of the best 135 pounders going around and Katsidis' performance against future hall of famer Casamayor was a fantastic effort after a shitty start to actually pull himself well back into the fight and could well have won if not for his brain explosion - Ray Mancini got a go at a world title straight after being completely dominated by Arguello.
The ratings don't generate the match ups genius, they simply rank the fighters without prejudice based on level of opponents beaten. Both are well inside the top-35 which is where they need to be and it stands to be a great fight

[perfect jet]

:lol:

Firstly, you question me as if your decision to sanction this fight with two guys coming off losses isn't unusual and you support it with a fight that took place almost 20 years ago. lol. And you are wrong with the Mancini fight btw...not even close.


I'm not shitting on the fight. It's a great fight, and sells with or without the IBO trinket. I just question the motives above anything else of why you guys sanctioned it as a title fight.

I'd be interested to know the decision making process behind it all. What's the criteria besides being ranked in the top 35?

[Phil Austin]

OK look back at what you asked; a precident of it happening before I provided an example a precident is just that it doesn't have a statute of limitations!
Why do you feel the need to question the decision to sanction the fight? It is no different to any other organisation: Both fighters are qualified ratings wise to contest the title, as you point out it is a great fight, it invloves one of the very best lightweights in the world against an all out action fighter who never disappoints and has garnered attention in the US and UK with his fights there - why wouldn't we sanction it? It would be completely moronic from a business standpoint not to. Both fighters qualify, both want to fight for it (The IBO has been in talks with Diaz for quite some time - before his loss to Campbell, hence the reason it has stayed vacant) end of story

[perfect jet]

You call it a precedent, I'd call it an obscure fight that nobody ever heard of from 20 years ago.

Call it anything you want, but attaching your so-called "title" to a fight between 2 guys both coming off losses is nothing more than a sanctioning fee grab.

Funny how Funeka vs. Raheem was made long BEFORE Diaz-Katz, and would easily have met your stringent "criteria".... but no sanction from you on that one? hmmmmm.

I guess you might add "being on HBO which means bigger purses which means more sanctioning fees" to your criteria list.

End of story.

[Phil Austin]

Well quite simply if the fighters and the promoter wants to put it on and they qualify then we can do it, if they ain't interested they aint interested - is that too hard to understand? Keep looking for whatever you want in a situation just don't bother asking me for inside insight as to why it is done. Semantics and trying to prove yourself clever seem to be your main go. Now this is the end of story; I stopped posting in another site cos I got sick of the crap and I don't want to get sucked in again - far more important things need taking care of, at the end of the day I only came in here after hearing about the petition suggestion and just wanted to clear up what happens there

[perfect jet]

You chose to participate in a forum Phil and guess what... not everyone see's things the same way.

Sanctioning bodies have been the subject of all kinds of controversies over the years, is the IBO a moral crusader for the alphabet orgs or something?

I'm allowed to ask questions and give my opinion. it's not personal so I'm surprised you feel the need to discontinue posting. Yuor choice their.