Welterweight Thomas Hearns vs Floyd Mayweather Jr.

[OBCboxer]

Both in their primes, who takes the fight at 147?

[Robbi]

Hearns via knockout. Mayweather lasting the distance isn't out of the question by an means, but I'll opt for a stoppage around the 10th.

[Adaptation]

PBF takes it in a super boring fight.

[Sweet Pea]

PBF takes it in a super boring fight.:blood

I get it, it was a joke...........right?

[Adaptation]

I guess i should have been more sarcastic!

PBF takes it by knocking thomas hearns into the stands?

[Hatesrats]

Thomas Hearns

[Xplosive]

Hearns KO 6.

[MagnificentMatt]

I see no way a midget safety first fighter beats Thomas Hearns. (Ok, so hes not a midget, but comparing the two..) Tommy is the only person I can favor over Pea without too much thought as well.. I do not consider Pea safety first btw, the man threw 80+ a round, PBF is a different story though... Both fights end in similar fashion though..

[Bill Butcher]

Hearns would destroy Mayweather probably even easier than Duran & Leonard due to size & styles & Id bet all I had that Duran & SRL would beat Floyd.

Hearns by dominant KO.

:thumbsup

[marciano1952]

Hearns Dominates until he KOes PBF

[Loewe]

Hearns. Just too much height, reach, power and nearly equal speed. Additionally to that you can´t outbox the hitman you have to KO/TKO him and Mayweather wouldn´t be able to do this. PBF´s exceptional defence might carry him in the middle rounds and if he just fights to survive he may even hear the bell but he just can´t win this one.

Meaningless topic imo.

[JohnThomas1]

Hearns KO.

[joekirkbycobra]

hearns by brutal right hand knockout

[Rebel-INS]

Hearns via murder.

[TommyV]

Hearns by rape leaving PBF with multiple STD's in the process.

[PowerPuncher]

Who was the most similar opponent Hearns fought? Benitez - HEarns was better then and it wasnt an easy fight, Benitez was also possibly in decline and wasn't the conditioned athlete Mayweather was.

Close UD for HEarns, a KO is wishful thinking and exceedingly unlikely with Floyd's defense

[Mantequilla]

Benitez won about 3 rounds at the most.

[TBooze]

Both in their primes, who takes the fight at 147?

Neither were in their primes at 147....

A 80/81 vintage Hearns against a 06/07 Lil Floyd, see's the Motor City Cobra winning a close decision in a boring boxing match.

Hearns WM15 (9-6)

[PowerPuncher]

Benitez won about 3 rounds at the most.

Really then why was it an MD? I've only seen highlights so I dont know. Benitez may have been in decline, was reportedly a lazy trainer, his workrate is questionable/boardering lazy, he has 4 MD/SD decisions against lesser foes on his wins list which seem to back this up. I see Floyd being similarly skilled to Benitez but overall showing better athletic ability and stamina to make it close. This will particular be an issue against the somewhat inexperienced HEarns at welter, as Tommy only went into the 12th once at this weight. Having said that I see Hearns fast 1-2 and his size and power advantage being the difference. Although I see Mayweather scoring very telling flush counters.

[JohnThomas1]

Really then why was it an MD? I've only seen highlights so I dont know.

For starters a false KD was called against Hearns and he also received one of two dubious point deductions. He beat Benitez easily.

[Bing]

Hearns would win a decision imo Mayweather doesnt match up well against the elite welters imo as i think he is naturally smaller than the vast majority of them therfore i dont rate him that high H2H at 147. However I only have Duran and Whitaker beating him under 140.

[Holmes' Jab]

Tommy wipes him out. KO4.

[ron u.k.]

on the face of it you say tommy by easy ko,but really mayweather has enough smarts to make it difficult for hearns.the trouble for mayweather is you had to fight hearns to beat him,for example the role reversal sugar ray leonard had to employ to stop him, simply because he was being outboxed,mayweather just doesn't have that in his locker.i 'd take hearns to win a ud over an elusive and negative floyd.

[DINAMITA]

Hearns. Just too much height, reach, power and nearly equal speed. Additionally to that you can´t outbox the hitman you have to KO/TKO him and Mayweather wouldn´t be able to do this. PBF´s exceptional defence might carry him in the middle rounds and if he just fights to survive he may even hear the bell but he just can´t win this one.

Meaningless topic imo.

Ditto

[Sweet Pea]

Who was the most similar opponent Hearns fought? Benitez - HEarns was better then and it wasnt an easy fight, Benitez was also possibly in decline and wasn't the conditioned athlete Mayweather was.

Close UD for HEarns, a KO is wishful thinking and exceedingly unlikely with Floyd's defenseFirst of all, Benitez's stamina was fine in that fight, and I thought Benitez looked great, about as good as he could've looked against Hearns. Second of all, Hearns won by about 9 points on my card. It wasn't close at all, though it was competitive. Thirdly, Benitez was much bigger than Floyd and more natural at the weight, and he had to fight on the defensive for the majority of the fight to avoid being taken out. Floyd would have to be purely defensive and on the move to survive this fight, and his movement has never been as good at WW. Either way, if he does do that Hearns knows he has nothing to worry about anyway and takes him out.

Hearns by KO, sometime in the mid rounds.

[PowerPuncher]

First of all, Benitez's stamina was fine in that fight, and I thought Benitez looked great, about as good as he could've looked against Hearns. Second of all, Hearns won by about 9 points on my card. It wasn't close at all, though it was competitive. Thirdly, Benitez was much bigger than Floyd and more natural at the weight, and he had to fight on the defensive for the majority of the fight to avoid being taken out. Floyd would have to be purely defensive and on the move to survive this fight, and his movement has never been as good at WW. Either way, if he does do that Hearns knows he has nothing to worry about anyway and takes him out.

Hearns by KO, sometime in the mid rounds.

Point is he didnt come close to stopping Benitez, yet hes going to stop an overall superior fighter in Mayweather in the mid rounds?? Ludicrous!! Oh yea but Mayweather is 2 inches shorter (with a shorter reach) :roll:

[Sweet Pea]

Point is he didnt come close to stopping Benitez, yet hes going to stop an overall superior fighter in Mayweather in the mid rounds?? Ludicrous!! Oh yea but Mayweather is 2 inches shorter (with a shorter reach) :roll:Mayweather was superior at 154(or even 147) than Benitez? That's what's ludicrous my friend. Mayweather is naturally smaller and weaker than Benitez, that does play a part, and his style would play just as much into Hearns's hands, even moreso given his lack of movement in comparison to younger days, and yet even moreso given the aforementioned size and strength disadvantages. Mayweather doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell.

[PowerPuncher]

Mayweather was superior at 154(or even 147) than Benitez? That's what's ludicrous my friend. Mayweather is naturally smaller and weaker than Benitez, that does play a part, and his style would play just as much into Hearns's hands, even moreso given his lack of movement in comparison to younger days, and yet even moreso given the aforementioned size and strength disadvantages. Mayweather doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell.

I don't pick Mayweather to win BUT I don't see why Hearns stops him mid rounds if he can't stop Benitez at Hearns better weight against a fading fighter in Benitez. Benitez when all said and done did not dominate his opposition as comprehensively as Mayweather.

The fight is at 147 not 154, here Hearns hasnt hit his prime and potentially has stamina issues. Yes I think he is better than Benitez who himself was small at 154 against Hearns. I'd even say Mayweather has the better 154lb win against a bigger more competant genuine 154lber

Who did Benitez emphatically beat that puts him in a league above Floyd? When it comes to completeness of defense I go with Floyd. Speed/Stamina are Floyd by a reasonable margin.

Hearns wins a UD but looks bad in doing so and loses 50% of the rounds whether 10-5 or 8-4

[Sweet Pea]

I don't pick Mayweather to win BUT I don't see why Hearns stops him mid rounds if he can't stop Benitez at Hearns better weight against a fading fighter in Benitez. Benitez when all said and done did not dominate his opposition as comprehensively as Mayweather.

The fight is at 147 not 154 and yes I think he is better than Benitez who himself was small at 154 against Hearns. I'd even say Mayweather has the better 154lb win against a bigger more competant genuine 154lber

Who did Benitez emphatically beat that puts him in a league above Floyd? When it comes to completeness of defense I go with Floyd. Speed/Stamina are Floyd by a reasonable margin.

Hearns wins a UD but looks bad in doing so and loses 50% of the rounds whether 10-5 or 8-4Losing 50% of the rounds would make it a draw.

Benitez was not fading by the Hearns fight, though he did start to fade afterwards. He looked about as good as he could've possibly looked against Hearns, I was actually quite impressed with him. He simply didn't have the offense needed to take many rounds.

Benitez was well bigger at 154 than Floyd, and Floyd beating old Oscar doesn't really compare to Benitez's performances against Duran, Hope, and even Hearns. There is no way that Floyd was a better fighter or would beat Benitez at 154, or even 147 IMO. Floyd is just too small and hasn't proven a goddamn thing at either weight except that he can fight there.

I think Benitez was better defensively personally, and just as quick at the higher weights, combined with being the bigger, stronger man with better power.

[The Wanderer]

Hearns. Not even a shadow of a doubt in my mind.

[the cobra]

I don't think any lightweight (possibly Floyd's natural weight) beats Hearns, especially one who wasn't a big puncher. Floyd isn't going to outbox Tommy, he isn't going to hurt Tommy, he isn't going to beat Tommy. Wide Ud, or he lands a clean right hand late in the fight and stops PBF.

[KOTF]

Hearns wide UD, if at WW, I see Floyd waiting for too many counter opportunities that would never happen against the Motor City Cobra who would keep him at bay with his long jab and right hand.

At 154 this is a slaughter.

[Stevie G]

Hearns would triumph. But I think that Mayweather's cute enough to take The Hitman the distance.

[Boxed Ears]

The former Super Featherweight Champion VS prime Hearns? Heh.

[duranimal]

Hearns would triumph. But I think that Mayweather's cute enough to take The Hitman the distance.

Stevie; I see this as a systematic dissection by Hearns, SRL only had a couple of good rounds against tommy & he had far more versatility to his game than Mayweather in regard to foot speed/movement/feint's/offensive speed ect & he was still comprehensivly outboxed up until the 13th round.

I just dont see floyd surviving past 8, i'am really trying to put together something in my head that see's Mayweather having any effect tacticly on Hearns but it's a blank.

All roads for me lead to absolute domination & destruction from the 1st ring @ ding with Hearns coming straight out of the traps like a greyhound & chasing Mayweather repeatedly into the ropes from behind that piston like jab & just waiting to drop the good night kiss onto Mayweather's exposed chin.

SRL opted to leg it rapid from Hearns & keep it at distance for most of the fight & relying on his blistering speed in countering Hearns with clusters of 4/5/6 punches but in the process got repeatedly nailed himself coming into Hearns range. I can't see Mayweather being able to execute such a tactic not with his style & he's deff no match for SRL in any of the above department IMO.

This fight has beatdown for Mayweather stamped all over it as the styles also for me actually put it into the miss-match catergary, i just can't for the life of me see what Mayweathers got & can do to off-set whats going to be coming his way.

I'd love the face-off:D you can just imagine those dead hitman eyes just boring straight into Floyds just like a snake looking at a mouse:lol:

At 154 it would be a shular style annihilation :deal

How on earth does Mayweather keep Hearns off him & survive!!! never mind win at 147/154:huh just can't see it mate, as i said IMO Mayweather is 2nd div compared to SRL at WW & he was "Blowing it" until that 13th round avalanch he unloaded onto Tommy:bbb

Unfortunatly this is the 1st time you & i have had differing opinions, amazing is'nt it this wonderful drug of our's that we can see 2 different scenerios:D

[Boro chris]

Can anyone think of a worse stylistic match up for Floyd?

[Bummy Davis]

Hearns by KO mid fight

[warrior85]

hearns ko between 4-7

[leverage]

:blood

I get it, it was a joke...........right?
It had to be.............LOL!

[leverage]

Hearns would mangle floyd inside of 5.

[ricardoparker93]

Hearns left hook to the body will utterly break Mayweather through the first five, with the long jab pumping into Floyds face. The guy has no defence for a long jab and he will not be able to start up any offence. After five rounds of one sided pasting Tommy delivers the coup de gras with a huge right halfway through the sixth before a riot breaks out between the Mayweathers and the Kronk entourage.

[Jersey Joe]

Hearns by KO within 5 rounds. Hearns reach and speed will be a nightmare for Floyd, his only hope would be to fight on the inside and he doesn't have the chin to repeatedly survive Hearns power on the way in. Basically it's a blown up lightweight vs someone who KOd cruiserweights later in his career. I see a repeat of the Duran or Cuevas fights, or maybe Floyd survives and loses a lopsided Benitez-type fight.

Small guys with short reach have no chance at all against Tommy.

[Waynegrade]

Hearns, 2nd rd KO. PBF`s slick, but Hearns would be all over him early. He wouldn`t be able to roll and smother all of Hearns`s shots. And with Hearns, at 147 it only takes one. I felt as though Hearns was weight drained a bit in the first Leonard fight. For those who might ask why would hearns starch PBF, when he couldn`t do it to SRL. Leonard was a more solid at 147 than PBF, better chin more power. If PBF went looking for Hearns, and found him, he`d be in trouble. This reminds me of Bob Foster vs. Dick Tiger sizewise. Hearns freakish hight and reach would be a nightmare for PBF...

[Jaws]

You need to brawl inside to get at Hearns. Not PBF's style.

Hearns by KO in the middle rounds.

[Pachilles]

Hearns would destroy Mayweather probably even easier than Duran & Leonard due to size & styles & Id bet all I had that Duran & SRL would beat Floyd.

Hearns by dominant KO.

:thumbsup

I believe Floyd would win a wide UD over Duran at welterweight, a split over Leonard at welterweight, and would get KO'ed by Hearns at welterweight.

[WhataRock]

I believe Floyd would win a wide UD over Duran at welterweight, a split over Leonard at welterweight, and would get KO'ed by Hearns at welterweight.

I disagree with all but the last pick.

[leverage]

I believe Floyd would win a wide UD over Duran at welterweight, a split over Leonard at welterweight, and would get KO'ed by Hearns at welterweight.
Floyd would lose to all three. Duran was a beast with skill and defense(check out how he elude many of leonards punches), leonard was superior in every way except defense and hearns was simply too tall, fast and powerful.

[Bill Butcher]

Hearns decisively, likely late KO, possible clear UD.

[Maxmomer]

Hearns by rape leaving PBF with multiple STD's in the process.

This.

[Pachilles]

Floyd would lose to all three. Duran was a beast with skill and defense(check out how he elude many of leonards punches), leonard was superior in every way except defense and hearns was simply too tall, fast and powerful.

floyd is frustrating and hard to hit clean. No mas, no mas...

[Boxed Ears]

floyd is frustrating and hard to hit clean. No mas, no mas...

:nono

[Pachilles]

:nono

theres nothing but 3 absolute facts there, buddy

[Sweet Pea]

I believe Floyd would win a wide UD over Duran at welterweight, a split over Leonard at welterweightI totally feel ya. Duran ain't got shit on Castillo, and Leonard sure as hell ain't got shit on a washed up De La Hoya.

[Pachilles]

I totally feel ya. Duran ain't got shit on Castillo, and Leonard sure as hell ain't got shit on a washed up De La Hoya.

No they haven't, not where heart is concerned.

[Waynegrade]

Hey in truth, if they had been in the same era. PBF wouldn`t even even want to be in the same arena as the Hitman. He never would have signed to fight him, for any kind of money.

[Mr Butt]

hearns is a superb boxer with a great jab although mayweather is too a great boxer i think hearns would be able to out box mayweather .leonard could not out box hearns so mayweather wont and mayweather has not got leonards power so i will go for hearns by ko after the 12

[MrMarvel]

Hearns was the better boxer. Mayweather won't be able to reach the man enough to do any damage.

[northernstar83]

Hearns by staredown KO

[Stevie G]

Stevie; I see this as a systematic dissection by Hearns, SRL only had a couple of good rounds against tommy & he had far more versatility to his game than Mayweather in regard to foot speed/movement/feint's/offensive speed ect & he was still comprehensivly outboxed up until the 13th round.

I just dont see floyd surviving past 8, i'am really trying to put together something in my head that see's Mayweather having any effect tacticly on Hearns but it's a blank.

All roads for me lead to absolute domination & destruction from the 1st ring @ ding with Hearns coming straight out of the traps like a greyhound & chasing Mayweather repeatedly into the ropes from behind that piston like jab & just waiting to drop the good night kiss onto Mayweather's exposed chin.

SRL opted to leg it rapid from Hearns & keep it at distance for most of the fight & relying on his blistering speed in countering Hearns with clusters of 4/5/6 punches but in the process got repeatedly nailed himself coming into Hearns range. I can't see Mayweather being able to execute such a tactic not with his style & he's deff no match for SRL in any of the above department IMO.

This fight has beatdown for Mayweather stamped all over it as the styles also for me actually put it into the miss-match catergary, i just can't for the life of me see what Mayweathers got & can do to off-set whats going to be coming his way.

I'd love the face-off:D you can just imagine those dead hitman eyes just boring straight into Floyds just like a snake looking at a mouse:lol:

At 154 it would be a shular style annihilation :deal

How on earth does Mayweather keep Hearns off him & survive!!! never mind win at 147/154:huh just can't see it mate, as i said IMO Mayweather is 2nd div compared to SRL at WW & he was "Blowing it" until that 13th round avalanch he unloaded onto Tommy:bbb

Unfortunatly this is the 1st time you & i have had differing opinions, amazing is'nt it this wonderful drug of our's that we can see 2 different scenerios:D
:lol::lol: It's the beauty of debate mate :good Your view on this is very persuasive though. There's just this sneaking feeling that Mayweather would hold on for dear life and survive the distance. He'd be battered,certainly. There's something about Mayweather's character that reminds me of Leonard. A little smug and aloof,maybe ?

[Popkins]

This one has been done to the death. Anyone who thinks Floyd has a prayer against Hearns at 147 needs to check into rehab for a few months.

[MAG1965]

Hearns was too great and confident to lose to guy like Floyd. Even if Floyd had confidence and would sign to fight Hearns, he would lose. Hearns was too fast and had too big a right hand. Hearns could win either by knockout or by decision. Hearns decisioned both Benitez and Hill.

[SOMERSETDURAN]

I sense a Floyd no-show for this one. Maybe a last minute concern about drug testing, glove weight, venue, ring size or choice of ring girl, in fact anything that stops him from getting KTFO and losing his '0'

[Holmes' Jab]

Hearns via brutal massacre. Duran all over again only quicker. :yep

[Flea Man]

A fight where a case really cannot be made for one of the fighters.

Floyd is getting stopped too. Brutally.

[Abdullah]

I would go with Hearns.

[laxpdx]

Hearns by UD, as Floyd fights to survive.

[anarci]

I wouldnt consider myself a Floyd fan,but i do think many underrate him and i think its just cause they dont like him. That being said I still cant see him winning this fight Tommy is all wrong for Floyd in fact if any fighter from the Past that i can be sure of beating floyd it would be Hearns. Mayweather cant outbox Hearns and He cant outslug him. Only way Mayweather last the distance if he fights just to survive and not to win. If not Tommy knocks him out.

[booradley]

PBF feints during his ring walk, and the ref counts him out while Ellerbe breathes a sigh of relief.