Bradley Saunders Result

[Strike]

He lost. And he lost to a French guy he beat earlier this year and without much trouble.
All the promise for the Olympic boxing team is in tatters.

The only medal chance is Price really.

[hitman_hatton1]

yeah hasn't gone well has it.

terry edwards already talking up 2012 as the main target. :patsch

so much for the 'new cuba' terry. :yep

they don't like scoring body shots do they.

saunders had 2 or 3 of em that he sunk in. :bbb

[GazOC]

Fuck!!

[Betty Swollocks]

the boxing is a farce anyway. The scoring is beyond a joke.
Britain are doing shite in everrything and it's funny as fuck, hopefully that cunt Ainslie sinks to round it off.

[Strike]

I don't want to hear them complaining about body shots not scoring. Yes it is crap but that has always been the case with amateur boxing. It is tough to get body shots scored properly, so knowing that don't go in there and target the body and then complain when you lose.

If you are such a body puncher that you cannot adapt to the amateur game then the team should not be picking you.

Saunders was complacent. He admits that he was looking past the French guy and hadn't studied him much before the fight because he beat him easily 7 months ago.

The set up is a bit of a joke. Saunders should have been made to watch tapes and work out a game plan with the coaches. The French clearly prepared for what he was going to bring.
Just like Gavin should not have been fighting at light welter for the whole of 2008 when they knew he had to make the weight for lightweight.

It is more than feasible that we go home without a medal after taking 8 fighters initially and with at least 3 expected to win a medal and 1 odds on for gold.

[Top Dog]

That was a terrible bout, he bounced about like an arsehole, deserved to get beaten. After all the hype, and the "new cubans" remarks thats going about, what a feckin joke. Just goes to show you that these english coaches arent anywhere near as good as theyre made out to be. If the english boxer beat the guy months ago, there is NO excuse to get beaten by the guy now, arsehole took his eye off the ball.

[GazOC]

I agree about the body shots Strike, the boxers/ trainers know the score on that regard from the outset.

[hitman_hatton1]

yeah before it started i thought maybe 3 medals. :p

admittedly going on last years world championship form.

1 of those potential medallists failed to make weight. :patsch

so ya drop that down to 2 potential medallists.

unless price and degale deliver something it's looking grim. :-(

[Top Dog]

How much money did the english fighters get from the sports body anyway? Or lottery etc? Whatever it is , it's too feckin much, get rid of that duffer Terry

[Strike]

the boxing is a farce anyway. The scoring is beyond a joke.
Britain are doing shite in everrything and it's funny as fuck, hopefully that cunt Ainslie sinks to round it off.

Not really. We have 2 golds, 2 silvers and 3 bronzes on the 6th day of competition. In Athens 2004 we won our first medal on the 7th day of competition.

Some of it has been poor performances, such as the judo. Some has been bad luck in terms of the draws. Get a good draw and you are there for a bronze straight away in things like badminton, boxing etc.
When you consider that Australia are considered a top Olympic performing team and they are on 16 medals, most coming in the pool...

It is clear where we could and should pick up more, and that is swimming. We have only 22 Olympic size pools in the whole of Britain, Australia has 47 and only 5 cities to split them between. We should pick up medals in the rowing, sailing and cycling yet.

[hitman_hatton1]

It is clear where we could and should pick up more, and that is swimming. We have only 22 Olympic size pools in the whole of Britain, Australia has 47 and only 5 cities to split them between. We should pick up medals in the rowing, sailing and cycling yet.

yeah we definitely under-achieve in swimming.

thank the lord for becky adlington. :yep

[Strike]

yeah we definitely under-achieve in swimming.

thank the lord for becky adlington. :yep

It is such an easy thing to rectify. When building a new pool, how much more does it really cost to make it 50m instead of 25m?
Just the building of a couple of velodromes a few years back has seen us become a major force in cycling.

When you think about the range of towns that our athletes come from and then imagine that most of the potential swimmers have to train in a half size pool.:patsch :lol:

Another 40 pools nation wide is not a huge outlay. Think how much money we will spend on a fancy opening ceremony and how much is wasted on numerous other public spending projects. Just 40 pools would offer swimming clubs across Britain close by facilities to bring through the next generation of Olympians.

[D-MAC]

Terrible result for Saunders; looks like the French guy had seriously studied him since their last fight.

As for the body shots question, it appears that they have to be dead obvious concussive shots thrown in a hook/uppercut way to score properly. The Cuban guy who was on a few bouts before, who looked fantastic, won most of his points on body shots, but they really were crippling punches that almost folded his opponent a couple of times, and he made sure to make them obvious so that the judges could see (even if his opponent couldn't due to the speed with which he threw them).

[Beeston Brawler]

All I will say is that Saunders was shit, but the French guy is bloody lucky that Joe Cortez wasn't referring - punching behind the head, throwing bombs when told to break up etc.

[darwoody]

It is such an easy thing to rectify. When building a new pool, how much more does it really cost to make it 50m instead of 25m?
Just the building of a couple of velodromes a few years back has seen us become a major force in cycling.

When you think about the range of towns that our athletes come from and then imagine that most of the potential swimmers have to train in a half size pool.:patsch :lol:

Another 40 pools nation wide is not a huge outlay. Think how much money we will spend on a fancy opening ceremony and how much is wasted on numerous other public spending projects. Just 40 pools would offer swimming clubs across Britain close by facilities to bring through the next generation of Olympians.



Its not as simple as that. Our coaches are sadly lacking the credentials to bring prospects through, so much so that we had to hire an Australian to head the swimming team a few years back.
As you say though the cyclers have got it spot on. The coaches have turned athletes from other sports in to Olympians. Every coach in the country should be looking to what they are doing and copying the formula.

[JonOli]

Shite, it's all increasingly coming down to Price to do the business, and I feel he may have already had his day in the sun. I hope that's not the case.

Moaning about scoring is poor, they just haven't performed, simple as that.

[DamonD]

Fortunately for the ABA, admist a lot of hoopla and optimism about the squad, they publicly declared they were aiming for 2 medals. Not 2 golds either, just 2 medals.

It would've been easy for them to get carried away and predict the moon and, given todays bad day, would've been looking much worse.

The Gavin outcome shouldn't be underestimated, he was seen as the virtual nailed-on medal guy (and hopefully gold) and then we'd just need someone else to do well. With Gavin gone that's all up in the air.

Still. We've got 1 through to the Quarters, and have 3 more Brit boxers to have their 2nd round fights yet. Let's see how we do.


As for GB's performance in the Olympics overall, it has been a pretty threadbare couple of days but Strike it totally right, we're streets ahead of where we were this time at the last Olympics. The sailing, rowing and cycling sportspeople all look very strong medal shots indeed.

This weekend will be the real make or break!

[dwilson]

I was never impressed with our medal chances but had hoped for a few quarter final appearances from our guys. The Franki Gavin situation has fucked up our chance of a medal. One of any colour now would be an amazing surprise. Hopefully Price can get his way forward and into a semi final place. Cammarelle looks to be in very good form though.


I wonder how all this will affect the funding for 2012 and our guys? I can see us losing quite a few of the top names and up and comers to the pro's after these disapointments.

[DamonD]

I'd have to think that, almost regardless of the outcome (I'm looking at you, judo team), cutting the funding in the build up to an Olympics on home soil would be a phenomenally barmy thing to do.

If ever there's a time to go balls-to-the-wall with cash, that's it.

[Govanmauler]

To be honest none of the fights I've seen so far have been worth watching its like watching Witter v Corley on a constant loop.

either that or you end up screaming at the tv at the obvius scoring shots that don't count. Its becoming a farce !

[Strike]

I'd have to think that, almost regardless of the outcome (I'm looking at you, judo team), cutting the feuding in the build up to an Olympics on home soil would be a phenomenally barmy thing to do.

If ever there's a time to go balls-to-the-wall with cash, that's it.

Frankly the judo team deserves its funding cut. We have gone to every Olympics in my living memory with apparently great judo medal prospects and people expected to be outside chances for golds and every time they fail to deliver.

I would much rather see funding put into more Olympic pools, continue to support cycling, rowing, boxing and sports where we have consistently produced talents even when the facilities have been average or poor.

[Strike]

To be honest none of the fights I've seen so far have been worth watching its like watching Witter v Corley on a constant loop.

either that or you end up screaming at the tv at the obvius scoring shots that don't count. Its becoming a farce !

I disagree to an extent. I thought Billy Joe Saunders in his opening fight was outstanding. Against the world number 3 he performed very well and had wonderful footwork.
I also thought the Ukrainian Olexander Usyk in the Heavyweight division was excellent to watch against the Chinese fighter.

But yes other than that it has not been great.

[David UK]

I often wonder just how good a coach Terry Edwards (and his team) really are??? I'm sure we all know the ABA are a complete farce as an organisation from top to bottom;the Richie Woodhall situation was a clear example of the ABA at their worst.
I know we don't hear all the corner work during the minute break, but from what little I've heard from Edwards he just seems to be 'cheerleading' with comments such as 'Come on son, you've got to step it up' or 'Come on son, think of all the work you've put in for this'. IF that is the extent of advice given between rounds then I could do just as well. What is needed is a clear instructions on HOW to beat the opponent and not just 'cheering him on' with a motivational pep talk

[Cobbler]

Britain are doing shite in everrything and it's funny as fuck

What the fuck are you talking about?

[Max Molyneux]

How much money did the english fighters get from the sports body anyway? Or lottery etc? Whatever it is , it's too feckin much, get rid of that duffer Terry

Audley went to the Sydney Olympics without Terry I read somewhere and he brought back the gold.

So they trained 5 times a day In Sheffield for ages like the suits claimed, which Is more than what pros train and get so much money spent on them and can;t last past the 2nd round? :lol:

[elle]

Bradley Saunders is getting some negative publicity after his loss - full back page of today's Daily Mail is running a story suggesting he said he was glad he lost because he was homesick. Article critical of the £140,000 (apparently) funding he accepted.

[faisal]

what a shitty boxing team, i bet every last one of them were too busy thinking about the ferraris and the mercs

[Beeston Brawler]

He should be caned for admitting he wanted to get home.

Very few people get a chance to represent their country in an Olympic games. For that they should be eternally grateful, instead of bleating like a little child :deal

[DamonD]

Oh, don't be so fucking ridiculous Faisal...you only have to listen to an interview with the likes of Price or Jeffries to show otherwise.

[somerset]

I see the French guy won again. And his semi looks very winnable.

In other words Bradley should've got to the final!

[Beeston Brawler]

I don't reckon much to the Frenchman really, he is a real spoiler like John Ruiz :lol:

[Cobbler]

Britain are doing shite in everrything and it's funny as fuck, hopefully that cunt Ainslie sinks to round it off.
Just quoting it again for the comedy value really :lol:

Rank Country Gold Silver Bronze TOTAL

1 China 35 13 13 61

2 USA 19 21 25 65

3 Great Britain 11 6 8 25