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ChrisPontius
07-27-2007, 06:49 PM
He's 31 now and seems to be at the peak of his powers.

Lennox Lewis, who fights much like him (or rather, Wlad fights much like Lennox), in my opinion also had his peak fight at that age, against McCall II.
His best wins (Holyfield twice, Klitschko, Tua, Tyson) were yet to come at that point as he had 6 more good years in him.

For how long do you think Klitschko will be able to sustain this level of ability?

By the way, i'm not talking about "when do you think his chin will let him down?". Just on when you think he will slow down significantly, lose the timing he has now, etc.

Note that he's fighting roughly two or three times a year now and will probably keep doing it at that pace.

Suge Green
07-27-2007, 08:44 PM
He's 31 now and seems to be at the peak of his powers.

Lennox Lewis, who fights much like him (or rather, Wlad fights much like Lennox), in my opinion also had his peak fight at that age, against McCall II.
His best wins (Holyfield twice, Klitschko, Tua, Tyson) were yet to come at that point as he had 6 more good years in him.

For how long do you think Klitschko will be able to sustain this level of ability?

By the way, i'm not talking about "when do you think his chin will let him down?". Just on when you think he will slow down significantly, lose the timing he has now, etc.

Note that he's fighting roughly two or three times a year now and will probably keep doing it at that pace.

He can continue beating International Bum Federation fodder for an infinite period of time...and can probably look good in an "athlietic sense" for about 9 years. If he would be the kind of champ that fights tough comp like say, Holy did and Lewis did...I'd give him seven years and he'd be done for good...and that's a compliment.

pipe wrenched
07-27-2007, 08:59 PM
As long as he changes his oil every 3,000 miles and rotates his tires regularly it's damn hard to stop a machine. Bad Ass Klitschko!

barneyrub
07-28-2007, 06:19 AM
He is too intelligent to fight for too long. He has had his fragilities and stamina issues as a younger man. If his brother is a guide we can look for his body to begin to break down in the next year or two. I believe he will only stay as long as to hold a title alongside his brother before retiring at about
33.

Mendoza
07-28-2007, 06:25 AM
The top boxer-punchers who don’t get hit a lot can last a long time in the heavyweight division. I think Wlad will prove to have a shelf life comparable to Lennox Lewis, which is to say he will be performing at his peak until his mid to late 30’s.

Odo
07-28-2007, 06:34 AM
He can continue beating International Bum Federation fodder for an infinite period of time...and can probably look good in an "athlietic sense" for about 9 years. If he would be the kind of champ that fights tough comp like say, Holy did and Lewis did...I'd give him seven years and he'd be done for good...and that's a compliment.

Hollyfield? Isnt he the guy who struggled against a no-hoper called Bobby Cyzz?

Cachibatches
07-28-2007, 07:04 AM
I know you don't want a chin related answer, but I think his next loss makes him quit. He has had a good run, made a lot of money, and will be remembered as a top 30 heavyweight.

Scar
07-28-2007, 07:09 AM
Five years of great entertaining fights.

DamonD
07-28-2007, 07:58 AM
In terms of top-level performance, I think about another 5 years does sound a good bet. He could continue well after that point if he wanted, of course.

RUSKULL
07-28-2007, 08:36 AM
At least 5, I voted for 7. :D

TheGreat
07-28-2007, 08:40 AM
Hollyfield? Isnt he the guy who struggled against a no-hoper called Bobby Cyzz?

Nut Huggery combined with Ignorance :rofl

Alcaldemb
07-28-2007, 12:03 PM
Another five or six seems pretty reasonable.

Suge Green
07-29-2007, 03:40 PM
Hollyfield? Isnt he the guy who struggled against a no-hoper called Bobby Cyzz?

Don't even try it...Holy has one of the best resumes of any HW champ.

chewy 22
07-29-2007, 03:51 PM
he hardly gets hit now, so he's got plenty of years left

SevenSamurai
07-29-2007, 04:12 PM
He has atleast 5 years of peak performance left. I think he will carry on for another 6-7 years.

It is not like the suge knight/klit loves men alias who posted in this thread can even argue that Briggs or Rahman are in the mix anymore.

SevenSamurai
07-29-2007, 04:14 PM
Don't even try it...Holy has one of the best resumes of any HW champ.

How many times has Holyfield been beaten again? I have forgotten.

Suge Green
07-29-2007, 04:17 PM
How many times has Holyfield been beaten again? I have forgotten.

:scaredas: you mean he's not undefeated...???

SevenSamurai
07-29-2007, 04:26 PM
:scaredas: you mean he's not undefeated...???

After he got starched by a former middleweight I lost count. Is it 11 or 12 times? I cant be bothered to check box rec.

You might as well post in this thread on your klit loves men alias, that is kind of funnier.:hey

El Bombasto
07-29-2007, 04:28 PM
Don't even try it...Holy has one of the best resumes of any HW champ.

:rofl :patsch

El Bombasto
07-29-2007, 04:30 PM
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El Bombasto
07-29-2007, 04:34 PM
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SevenSamurai
07-29-2007, 04:36 PM
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:dance I think I am going to put that dvd on again.

fcu1
07-29-2007, 04:51 PM
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I was at the fight, thank god Bowe knocked him out cos I had $ 3500,00 on Bowe to win.

El Bombasto
07-29-2007, 05:13 PM
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Muchmoore
07-29-2007, 05:14 PM
Hollyfield? Isnt he the guy who struggled against a no-hoper called Bobby Cyzz?

Wlad? Isn't he the guy who got knocked out by Ross Purrity?

SevenSamurai
07-29-2007, 05:16 PM
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I like that one, the Toney is my favourite though. I just checked and holyfield has 8 official losses. But another 3 unofficial, so it was 11.:deal

El Bombasto
07-29-2007, 05:19 PM
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didn't holyfield take steriods and get ko'd by this guy

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07-29-2007, 05:21 PM
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Suge Green
07-29-2007, 05:30 PM
OK...the newbs love KLIT and hate Holyfield. Point taken. His resume is still undisputed.

...Randsome, if you are going to add losses to Holy's record then you need to add wins as well.:smoke

Heavyrighthand
07-29-2007, 05:32 PM
I think he'll retire before his body starts to retire.

Most fighters who keep fighting past their best years don't have a PHD, and various other things, waiting for them.

dragosuhail
07-29-2007, 05:41 PM
suge white im surprised at your generous estimate. im a big wlad fan and i reckon he's only got 4 years left. admittedly i feel they would be peak years and then he'll get out of the game straight away.

assuming he has similar genetics to his brother i say 35 is when he'll feel the difference. perhaps his hand swelling he gets will worsen? or some other ailment since it's a brutal sport. but on the flip side vitali did kick boxing in the early years and looked amazingly fluid compared to his 30's as a boxer when he appeared more stiffer in the legs. since wladimir hasn't abused his legs like kick boxers do i think he can reach 35 without surgery like his bro had done.

wlad seems the methodical trainer. he never comes into camp overweight. if you do that there's more chance of pulling/tearing something due to busting your gut in a short timeframe. he also has huge arm and hand bones which might also mean he wont fracture them easily. and with proper technique i dont think he'll tear a rotorcuff or something. but yeah due to wealth he's made i think the first sign of his abilities being hindered by breakdowns will be when he exits.

out of curiousity why did you give him 7 good years? is that against bums etc? :think

oh i forgot something else. he might also retire if mental desire is no longer there. if he unifies and his brother holds a belt by end of next year at earliest i can easily see him retiring after one or two defenses because he achieved what he dreamed of. i cannot imagine him staying much longer cause of how he sounds convinced that is what he plans. tho i know boxers can be notorious for retiring however.

Suge Green
07-29-2007, 06:34 PM
suge white im surprised at your generous estimate. im a big wlad fan and i reckon he's only got 4 years left. admittedly i feel they would be peak years and then he'll get out of the game straight away.

assuming he has similar genetics to his brother i say 35 is when he'll feel the difference. perhaps his hand swelling he gets will worsen? or some other ailment since it's a brutal sport. but on the flip side vitali did kick boxing in the early years and looked amazingly fluid compared to his 30's as a boxer when he appeared more stiffer in the legs. since wladimir hasn't abused his legs like kick boxers do i think he can reach 35 without surgery like his bro had done.

wlad seems the methodical trainer. he never comes into camp overweight. if you do that there's more chance of pulling/tearing something due to busting your gut in a short timeframe. he also has huge arm and hand bones which might also mean he wont fracture them easily. and with proper technique i dont think he'll tear a rotorcuff or something. but yeah due to wealth he's made i think the first sign of his abilities being hindered by breakdowns will be when he exits.

out of curiousity why did you give him 7 good years? is that against bums etc? :think

oh i forgot something else. he might also retire if mental desire is no longer there. if he unifies and his brother holds a belt by end of next year at earliest i can easily see him retiring after one or two defenses because he achieved what he dreamed of. i cannot imagine him staying much longer cause of how he sounds convinced that is what he plans. tho i know boxers can be notorious for retiring however.

If he keeps setting up the bums with the jab and gives the goodnight punch after demoralizing them due to the ineffectiveness of the opponent to deal with the jabs...and fighting the tough fighters with Uncle Manny's "Jab & Grab," there's no end in sight.

Btw, I've previously predicited he won't fight Peter again.

AJAX
07-29-2007, 06:56 PM
he hasn't jab and grabbed much since the Peter fight, he hasn't had to. In fact he's hardly taken a punch worth noting, so I think he will have no trouble leaving the game and not be dillusional like holyfield.

Marciano Frazier
07-29-2007, 07:17 PM
He's 31 now and seems to be at the peak of his powers.

Lennox Lewis, who fights much like him (or rather, Wlad fights much like Lennox), in my opinion also had his peak fight at that age, against McCall II.
His best wins (Holyfield twice, Klitschko, Tua, Tyson) were yet to come at that point as he had 6 more good years in him.

For how long do you think Klitschko will be able to sustain this level of ability?

By the way, i'm not talking about "when do you think his chin will let him down?". Just on when you think he will slow down significantly, lose the timing he has now, etc.

Note that he's fighting roughly two or three times a year now and will probably keep doing it at that pace. Wlad has a similar style to Lewis, but has had a lot more fights than Lewis had at his age. Wlad is reasonably shopworn at 49-3, compared with Lewis' 29-1 at the same age. That being the case, I think Wlad will probably be obviously past his prime by about four years from now.

Rock0052
07-29-2007, 07:39 PM
I put down 5 years, but that might be generous. Given how much money he's made already and that I don't see him fighting until his body breaks down or he gets punch drunk, I think he'd have to feel seriously challenged by somebody to want to keep fighting that long. The question is, will a competitor emerge around that time frame that would make it too tempting for Wlad to not call it a career? If not, we're probably looking at between 8-10 fights left for him.

It wouldn't surprise me to see him sit out a year (or perhaps even 2) to give the division a chance to find a star, and then come back for one last fight a few years from now.

AJAX
07-29-2007, 09:14 PM
I don't think he'll sit out ,he wants to unify more than anybody and has been active and probobly will continue to do that.I just hope he does not have to fight Bryd or Brock again, nobody wants to see that.

Muchmoore
07-29-2007, 09:27 PM
I don't think he'll sit out ,he wants to unify more than anybody and has been active and probobly will continue to do that.I just hope he does not have to fight Bryd or Brock again, nobody wants to see that.

I agree. Byrd-Klitschko 3 is too much to bear, it would be worth dumping his IBF belt to avoid that.

But I doubt Byrd will beat Brock or Povetkin so we probably won't see that.

Rock0052
07-29-2007, 10:02 PM
I don't think he'll sit out ,he wants to unify more than anybody and has been active and probobly will continue to do that.I just hope he does not have to fight Bryd or Brock again, nobody wants to see that.

I should've been more clear- in about 3 years I see him possibly sitting out if he's unified.