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teetop
07-27-2007, 09:52 PM
Chazz witherspoon will never be a world champ. Neither will most of these american heavies. The russian prospects will always be better than our sorry ass heavies.
Also, had that BS stoppage occured in europe the posters on here would go apeshit saying "early stoppage"!

geppy
07-27-2007, 10:18 PM
Witherspoon kind of reminds me of Tony Thompson. They both throw alot of jabs, neither are punchers, both have lapses in defense. Witherspoon is quicker, but Thompson uses his size better. Thompson was handed a win against Krasniqi, it was bizarre. Thompson although got the victory, he did not look that good, Krasniqi did not attempt fight it was a disgrace.

ajohnfp
07-27-2007, 10:19 PM
Like Brock!

Zakman
07-28-2007, 12:10 AM
Witherspoon kind of reminds me of Tony Thompson. They both throw alot of jabs, neither are punchers, both have lapses in defense. Witherspoon is quicker, but Thompson uses his size better. Thompson was handed a win against Krasniqi, it was bizarre. Thompson although got the victory, he did not look that good, Krasniqi did not attempt fight it was a disgrace.

Witherspoon is also quite a bit younger than Thompson, and thus has the potential to go farther. I was not particularly impressed with him tonight, and in fact gave his opponent a few of the early rounds. If he wanted to impress, he should have blown this guy out early - which is really what prospect should do with a guy like Griffis.

Stimulant
07-28-2007, 12:12 AM
Europeans do it better

geppy
07-28-2007, 12:21 AM
Witherspoon is also quite a bit younger than Thompson, and thus has the potential to go farther. I was not particularly impressed with him tonight, and in fact gave his opponent a few of the early rounds. If he wanted to impress, he should have blown this guy out early - which is really what prospect should do with a guy like Griffis.

What do you think of Thompson? Do you see any similarities? I think they are quite alike in many ways.

It looked like Witherspoon could of just steamrolled Griffs, but all he was doing was throwing jabs. He made the fight so much harder than it had to be. Obviously , he didnt look good tonight but he does some talent there. Witherspoons jab is quite good and if he improves his defense he can be ok. I really dont think he has much power though.

Zakman
07-28-2007, 12:31 AM
What do you think of Thompson? Do you see any similarities? I think they are quite alike in many ways.

It looked like Witherspoon could of just steamrolled Griffs, but all he was doing was throwing jabs. He made the fight so much harder than it had to be. Obviously , he didnt look good tonight but he does some talent there. Witherspoons jab is quite good and if he improves his defense he can be ok. I really dont think he has much power though.

I don't really think that much of Thompson, and based on what I saw tonight, I don't think a whole lot of Witherspoon either. The difference is, Witherspoon has time to learn, to improve. Thompson, at 36, is about as good as he's ever gonna be - i.e. fringe contender/gatekeeper type. Witherspoon, I agree, didn't seem to have much of a fight plan, and like I said, he let Griffis outwork him in a couple of the early rounds.

Defense can, of course, be improved. The lack of power will be a problem, frankly, unless he improves some of the other areas of his game. He really needs to up his workrate and mix his punches up better.

nervousxtian
07-28-2007, 12:37 AM
Stoppage was fine, Griffas was getting hit hard and watch his reaction and the way he walked after the fight was called. I would of liked the ref to let it go maybe another 5-10seconds and give Chazz a time to KD Griffas, but I'm not complaing about that stoppage.

Now if this was a title fight, or a fight with any real meaning, then I'd bitch about the stoppage a little more, but in the end, Griffas didn't give a shit, and didn't complain, and he was taking too many flush headshots.

geppy
07-28-2007, 12:46 AM
If Witherspoon inproves his defense , he can be a fighter like Larry Donald , Mccline, Ray Austin level. I dont think we were witnessing the savior of the HW division, but he could possibly be a contender. Witherspoons jab is good, and he is a smart man, but improvements must be made especially in defense.

chung
07-28-2007, 12:47 AM
has anyone heard of shane (the mountain warrior) cameron?? hes the best new zealand heavyweight

C Money
07-28-2007, 03:16 AM
Call it favortisim if you will(a Pittsburgh thing as Chambers hometown, even though he's fighting out of Philly these days), but I'm an Eddie Chambers fan and if he stay's the course of working hard, he'll make some noise. Outside of W. Klitschko, i think he's 3-5 fights from possibly dethroning one of the other Euro 'Champs".

Keep WORKING EDDIE!!!!!! You're shot will come:good

Brickhaus
07-28-2007, 03:18 AM
Eh, Witherspoon ain't shit, and none of us would even know who he is if it wasn't for his last name. He'll be a nice gatekeeper someday, but not much more.

brooklyn1550
07-28-2007, 03:20 AM
Chazz Witherspoon
Kevin Johnson

H .
07-28-2007, 03:33 AM
It isn't that bad.
Other than Tony Thompson and Eddie Chambers, Americans still have

Chris Arreola 21-0 (19)
Donnell Holmes 27-0 (24)
Travis Walker 24-0 (18)
David Rodriguez 26-0 (25)
JD Chapman 27-0 (24)
Kevin Johnson 15-0 (6)
Michael Marrone 18-0 (13)
Tye Fields 38-1 (34)
Mike Mollo 18-1 (11)
Malik Scott 29-0 (10)

I'm not so sure about Chazz Witherspoon or Faruq Saleem though. Time will tell.

brooklyn1550
07-28-2007, 03:38 AM
I will add JD Chapman to my list...he doesn't impress me

H .
07-28-2007, 03:42 AM
I probably went a little overboard with some of those names, but there's still hope

Chief_Second
07-28-2007, 03:43 AM
it will take another 20 years before we see a decent hw in the division - american or not

Willy Bonka
07-28-2007, 03:53 AM
It isn't that bad.
Other than Tony Thompson and Eddie Chambers, Americans still have

Chris Arreola 21-0 (19)
Donnell Holmes 27-0 (24)
Travis Walker 24-0 (18)
David Rodriguez 26-0 (25)
JD Chapman 27-0 (24)
Kevin Johnson 15-0 (6)
Michael Marrone 18-0 (13)
Tye Fields 38-1 (34)
Mike Mollo 18-1 (11)
Malik Scott 29-0 (10)

I'm not so sure about Chazz Witherspoon or Faruq Saleem though. Time will tell.

Derrick Rossy( 16-1-0-10KO ) in My opinion, will be a "good" American Heavyweight as long as He gets conditioned, ...He is still "raw" in this sport( played University Football ). :think

dragosuhail
07-28-2007, 03:56 AM
chief second that is bias bullcrap. what are you saying? there are NO decent heavies worldwide at all?

that's a long reach mate

brooklyn1550
07-28-2007, 03:59 AM
I probably went a little overboard with some of those names, but there's still hope

I say the best are Arreola and Chambers

nervousxtian
07-28-2007, 10:40 AM
Michael Marrone 18-0 will own the heavyweight division.. mark my words.. what we need is a silly whiteboy who's awkward with no skills to beat the Russians.

:patsch

Willy Bonka
07-28-2007, 12:04 PM
Michael Marrone 18-0 will own the heavyweight division.. mark my words.. what we need is a silly whiteboy who's awkward with no skills to beat the Russians.

:patsch

I think Derrick Rossy would win *Bouts against some of these American Boxers, such as Michael Marrone, Kevin Johnson, & Chazz Witherspoon... :think