What The F**k Is This Sh*t!!!

[PJD3]

What kind of crocked crap was that to protect that young punk berto on fnf's.. :twisted: His corner should of been DQ'ed for that crap.!!.taking off and putting on a new glove with out it being checked and burning up time to make sure berto was safe before the next round!! WTF!!

[Shpion]

What do you expect, the fight is in Germany.

[jrios]

agree

[the_what]

Shades of Ali/Cooper :yep

[geppy]

That was like vintage WWF, Berto was all but knocked out. Then suddenly there is something wrong ,and Berto needed several extra minutes. What fucking bullshit , he may of been knocked out. Disgusting!!!!

[kg0208]

That was like vintage WWF, Berto was all but knocked out. Then suddenly there is something wrong ,and Berto needed several extra minutes. What fucking bullshit , he may of been knocked out. Disgusting!!!!

KO'd? He was up at like 5....had his gloves up at 7, and moved forward right before the bell rings. That is not "all but KO'"

[geppy]

KO'd? He was up at like 5....had his gloves up at 7, and moved forward right before the bell rings. That is not "all but KO'"

Yeah, but his legs was gone! Berto's faggot corner should of been Dq'd for taking off Berto's for no reason , and buying so much time so their fighter wouldnt be Ko'd. If Berto didnt have his legs and couldnt answer the bell for the round that is a TKO, or his corner taking off his glove to buy fucking time, that sould be a DQ. No matter how you look at if Berto couldnt answer the bell after being that hurt , the fight should of ended.

[kg0208]

Yeah, but his legs was gone! Berto's faggot corner should of been Dq'd for taking off Berto's for no reason , and buying so much time so their fighter wouldnt be Ko'd. If Berto didnt have his legs and couldnt answer the bell for the round that is a TKO, or his corner taking off his glove to buy fucking time that sould be a DQ. No matter how you look at if Berto couldnt answer the bell after being that hurt , the fight should of ended.

His legs were no where near gone. I think you don't like the guy, as I said in the other thread.

He was not still hurt, he got up early in the count, he was not wobbling, put his gloves up and walked forward. He went back to his corner shaking his head. Not wobbling and his eyes weren't glassy.

[nervousxtian]

His legs were gone???? Maybe you should rewatch the KD.

He was ready to go right after the KD, he got stunned, but he was not "hurt" or even "shaken"... check his facial expression the whole time he was sitting down.

Also the glove was fucked up earlier in the fight, or did you not watch when they got the scissors out and cut part of it?

[ravtrav]

Yeah, but his legs was gone! Berto's faggot corner should of been Dq'd for taking off Berto's for no reason , and buying so much time so their fighter wouldnt be Ko'd. If Berto didnt have his legs and couldnt answer the bell for the round that is a TKO, or his corner taking off his glove to buy fucking time, that sould be a DQ. No matter how you look at if Berto couldnt answer the bell after being that hurt , the fight should of ended.I DON'T THINK BOTH HIS KNEES EVEN TOUCH THE GROUND MUCHLESS STOP THE FIGHT. HE WAS FINE BEFORE THE BELL RANG.

[geppy]

His legs were gone???? Maybe you should rewatch the KD.

He was ready to go right after the KD, he got stunned, but he was not "hurt" or even "shaken"... check his facial expression the whole time he was sitting down.

Also the glove was fucked up earlier in the fight, or did you not watch when they got the scissors out and cut part of it?

Give me one good reason why to take the glove off, and they decied to suddenly do it after Berto was knocked down and stumbled to the ground again and was saved buy the bell. That is fucking bullshit, and Berto's corner trying to save his ass.

[kg0208]

Give me one good reason why to take the glove off, and they decied to suddenly do it after Berto was knocked down and stumbled to the ground again and was saved buy the bell. That is fucking bullshit, and Berto's corner trying to save his ass.

Stumbled to the ground again? I didn't see this.

[nezy37]

how could you say his legs where gone. where you even watching the fight. nothing but a flash knockdown

[geppy]

Berto was hurt and his corner bought him time, because they themselves knew how bad Berto was hurt. It didnt just happen that they had to suddenly change glove, I have never seen that happen in boxing.

No matter what shit any fan posts here. Bertos corner did that to buy time, because they knew he was in trouble, period.

[nervousxtian]

Give me one good reason why to take the glove off, and they decied to suddenly do it after Berto was knocked down and stumbled to the ground again and was saved buy the bell. That is fucking bullshit, and Berto's corner trying to save his ass.
Watch eariler in the fight, there was a problem with the thumb area on Bertos glove, they cut part of it off earlier.

They just picked an advantagious time change the glove, but it probably needed to be changed.

They probably did it to buy time, no doubt, but there was foreshadowing earlier to the glove needing to be changed, that said, I don't think Berto even needed the extra time, he looked fine.

Your hatred for Berto confuses me, did he like fuck your girlfriend or something?

[geppy]

Watch eariler in the fight, there was a problem with the thumb area on Bertos glove, they cut part of it off earlier.

They just picked an advantagious time change the glove, but it probably needed to be changed.

They probably did it to buy time, no doubt, but there was foreshadowing earlier to the glove needing to be changed, that said, I don't think Berto even needed the extra time, he looked fine.

Your hatred for Berto confuses me, did he like fuck your girlfriend or something?

There should be no doubt by anyone , that was done at such a convienant time to buy time. If his corner didnt think he was hurt , they wouldnt of done gone threw all that bullshit. His corner went to great lengths to try and buy time, if it was a flash kd they wouldnt of needed to cheat like that.

[Sonny Carson]

Stumbled to the ground again? I didn't see this.
He did stumble to the ground again before he got up.

[nervousxtian]

There should be no doubt by anyone , that was done at such a convienant time to buy time. If his corner didnt think he was hurt , they wouldnt of done gone threw all that bullshit. His corner went to great lengths to try and buy time, if it was a flash kd they wouldnt of needed to cheat like that.

Do you honestly think that would of changed shit?

Your blind hatred is kinda funny, his corner was trying to protect him, that's their job, they got away with it.

Berto didn't need the time, watch his facial expression, he wanted to get back in there, and his best round was the one right after the KD.

[geppy]

Do you honestly think that would of changed shit?

Your blind hatred is kinda funny, his corner was trying to protect him, that's their job, they got away with it.

Berto didn't need the time, watch his facial expression, he wanted to get back in there, and his best round was the one right after the KD.

So you think you know more about Berto's state than his corner did? They obviously thought Berto desperatly needed time! I have never even seen that done in boxing. Change a glove, WTF?

[JMonster]

i truly don't belive he really was even hurt. and the glove problem didn't happen just outta the blue, it happened b4 that round n the ref stopped the clock and tried to fix it. not like they just made something up

[MJRJJ23]

Berto was hurt and his corner bought him time, because they themselves knew how bad Berto was hurt. It didnt just happen that they had to suddenly change glove, I have never seen that happen in boxing.

No matter what shit any fan posts here. Bertos corner did that to buy time, because they knew he was in trouble, period.


I think you have a serious dislike for Berto fo some unknown reason. to say he stumbled to the ground and was "saved by the bell" tells me that 1. You hate Berto or 2. You had way to many drinks during the night and you are the one with the shaky legs and stumbling, Did you notice Berto kept tryin to go fight while his cornor was fixing his glove.

[geppy]

I think you have a serious dislike for Berto fo some unknown reason. to say he stumbled to the ground and was "saved by the bell" tells me that 1. You hate Berto or 2. You had way to many drinks during the night and you are the one with the shaky legs and stumbling, Did you notice Berto kept tryin to go fight while his cornor was fixing his glove.

He did stumble back down, his legs was not totally there. All he had to do was walk back to the corner as the round ended right at the KD. You were impressed by him walking about 8 feet to his corner and immediatly sitting down, that you could obviously tell his legs infact were ok and not weakend by the KD. Come on!

[MJRJJ23]

He did stumble back down, his legs was not totally there. All he had to do was walk back to the corner as the round ended right at the KD. You were impressed by him walking about 8 feet to his corner and immediatly sitting down, that you could obviously tell his legs infact were ok and not weakend by the KD. Come on!

You need to go back and re read the things you said, you didnt say that Berto stumbled back down and then was back up at 5 count. Also Berto never even completly went down, his knees never touched the canvas. The way your putting it is Berto was pretty much knocked out eventhough he was up at 5 count, Your basically saying that Berto was out on his feet and had no clue what was going on and if it wasn't for the bell he would've been knocked out. And no I wasn't impressed that he could walk 8 feet to his cornor. What does impress me is the conclusions you come up with

[DaHead242]

They "should" have been DQ'd..... but they weren't. Worked out well for berto, smart corner move. It may not have been ethical but it worked. The ref was the problem, not the corner. Its the refs call in a situation like that so to criticize the corner is well, stupid.

[geppy]

You need to go back and re read the things you said, you didnt say that Berto stumbled back down and then was back up at 5 count. Also Berto never even completly went down, his knees never touched the canvas. The way your putting it is Berto was pretty much knocked out eventhough he was up at 5 count, Your basically saying that Berto was out on his feet and had no clue what was going on and if it wasn't for the bell he would've been knocked out. And no I wasn't impressed that he could walk 8 feet to his cornor. What does impress me is the conclusions you come up with

Vic Darchinyan was up at like the count of 5 himself. Do you think he was not hurt?(He was nearly dead) Obviously Vic went back down again, but he did make it to his feet for a short while. A fighter getting to his feet quick, is no way a certain indication of not being hurt. Fighters get hurt badly and dont even go down sometimes.

No, I dont have a hatred for Berto. But the was one of the lowest things , I have seen in boxing, done by his corner. Disgusting

[Zakman]

This incident should be investigated really, to determine what, if anything, was wrong with the glove. It really does reak of a ploy to buy extra time, and there can be no question that however hurt Berto may have been this worked to his advantage. If I was the manager of the other fighter, I'd file a formal protest.

[Axe]

That was some serious BS with the glove. It's the ref's job to fix a fighter's glove anyway, is it not? Either way, the timing was more thna just "convenient", and the glove did not need to be fixed at that particular time. The fight should be changed to an NC, imo.

[nervousxtian]

Fuck, did you guys miss the prior incident with the glove?

Change the fight to a NC?!?! Gimme a break.

You wanna bitch about the glove, how bout the fact that Cosme never once got warned for holding and clinching the whole damn fight.

[C Money]

Berto was up regardless and would likely have picked up where he left off with or without the glove issue. There were indications of an issue in the previous rounds as the ref went over and had the corner adjust something on the thumb of the glove.

Yet, gee, isnt it convienient that Berto gets caught with a beatiful left uppercut and SUDDENLY its time for the new glove?? BULLSHIT!!!!!!!! It was actually good strategy on Berto's corner but could have affected the fight vs a different opponent and that would have been a very shitty undue influence. Something like that in a close contested fight would be worthy of a POINT DEDUCTION IMO!!!!

All that said?? I dont think it impacted the outcome of this fight:good Rivera is a tough veteran but doesnt have the skill or ability to beat Berto. What it did make me wonder about??? Is how Berto would fare vs a TOP LEFTY!!! As Rivera threw that shot from a semi-southpaw satnce and Berto was W-I-D-E O-P-E-N and caught unexpectedly.