Roy Jones Replaces Ray Robinson...

[Russell]

Against Joey Maxim in the sweltering heat of Yankee Stadium.

15 rounds, at light heavyweight.

What happens?

[Quickhands21]

Prime roy hands Maxim a rare Ko defeat

[Seasoned Veteran]

Jones and Robinson may have had the same speed but Roy had the KO power at this weight that Robinson did not seem to have.

Jones via KO.

[Russell]

Wow, surprised at the number of people who think Maxim would be KO'ed.

[JohnThomas1]

Jones would beat him, he ended up very comfortable at 175 and i think Maxim is a good style for him.

[Rock0052]

It's easy to say Jones by KO without knowing how Jones would've handled that kind of heat, which is something that he never had to deal with and that no fighter really ought to.

My guess is that Jones counters and potshots his way to a points win to avoid the risk of dehydration or heatstroke. Gunning for the KO on an iron chinned fighter who lasted over 150 rounds against guys like Moore, Charles, SRR, Jersey Joe Walcott and Floyd Patterson (among others) without getting stopped would frankly be a stupid and unnecessary risk on Roy's part, and doing that would really open the door for Maxim to win much wider than it would be if Roy fights smart.

So, I go for Roy UD. If Roy guns for a stoppage, there's a good chance Maxim pulls off the upset.

[TBooze]

If a 5 years past his best Robinson is fighting 28lbs past his best, and Jones replaces him with the same handicaps and fights a Maxim, he wins, because he outweighs Maxim by 20lbs.

Jones was naturally a much bigger man than Ray Robinson he would always have an advantage over Ray at 175.

[Russell]

No one thinks Jones will falter over 15 rounds in that kind of heat with Maxim chasing him?

[JohnThomas1]

No one thinks Jones will falter over 15 rounds in that kind of heat with Maxim chasing him?

I don't. Robinson fought Maxim at just 157 pounds. Jones blossomed into a fully fledged 175 pound express. Maxim is quite a light hitter too.

It all adds up good for Jones. I don't think he has to run much at all.

[Loewe]

RJJ by UD. While Roy had good power he nowhere had the power of Moore, Walcott, Patterson and those guys weren´t able to KO Maxim so I doubt Jones would.

[Holmes' Jab]

Jones Jr: UD.

[McGrain]

Robinson had to work very hard in that heat, harder than Jones would have. Jones paces himself beautifully and has power enough to keep Maxim respectful. Jones will win every round he contests for a wide UD.

[flamengo]

Was Roy engaging in a pro. basketball game on the same day??? After the majority of the 12 round fights, he seemed well qualified to fight another 12 rounds. Training, conditioning, and diet is clearly advanced now days.

SRR is the yard stick when it comes to boxers. Under the same duress, RJJ may well have succombed in the very same manner a 'Sugar Ray", had RJJ been in the same era.

Its very difficult to give an answer with the reasoning behind it, without dismissing the brilliance of 'Sugar Ray'...

A thousand years from now, both men will be well respected, as they are today.

I will just speculate that the Ref. suffered a heart attack in the 15th, prematurely ending the fight.

[mcvey]

No one thinks Jones will falter over 15 rounds in that kind of heat with Maxim chasing him?
Maxim never chased Ray ,Robinson lost because he was winning handily and started showboating ,making unnessasary movements and footwork,Maxim boxed conservatively behind his jab ,and sandbagging Ray's mid section.Jones ,naturally bigger than the ex welter Robinson,would probably take the dec from Maxim ,potshotting and scoring with his faster hands but he aint koing him.imo.

[Hatesrats]

Joey Maxim would win...
(Simply because it's blasphamy to put Jones Jr's name anywhere near Robinson)

[Stonehands89]

Jones' pain allergies were severe. Given the oppressive heat and given Roy Jones' propensity to fight defensively first and foremost, I see this as a boring UD for a potshotting Jones who would be content to stay out of range.

[the cobra]

Apart from the heat, Maxim himself would give Jones some problems. He was far superior to anyone RJJ ever fought at 175lbs, a tricky fighter. He doesn't beat Roy of course, but he'd make it a little difficult, might take about 3 or 4 rounds off of Jones.

In this heat it's hard to say how RJJ fairs, but he wouldn't have to work as hard as Robinson did, and could go the 15 rounds IMO, taking a very clear UD, but as I said, Maxim makes it difficult at times for Jones.

[Vantage_West]

Wow, surprised at the number of people who think Maxim would be KO'ed.2 people:huh



robinson usually won the rounds too well. trying to finish his man off or slow him down...(if you can slow down maxim)
jones of course never went 15 but he seems pretty fresh at the end of 12 rounder.

the heat and the pressure would be the main points of interest. i defintly think maxim has not a chance of winning. a few rounds but nothign sugnificant. due to his slow moving style and stature (jones had problems against aller lankier guys). jones could pot shot and taunt all he wants, and conserve energy. throw a few shots and get out.

yeah i think jones could ud him.


also remember this fight in perticular robinson-maxim is a story of caution to young boxers to not shoot there bolt. if this fight didnt happen we wouldnt of seen a clear example of exhaustion to a slower weaker oponant (weaker in class and technicianship)

[Russell]

2 people:huh



robinson usually won the rounds too well. trying to finish his man off or slow him down...(if you can slow down maxim)
jones of course never went 15 but he seems pretty fresh at the end of 12 rounder.

the heat and the pressure would be the main points of interest. i defintly think maxim has not a chance of winning. a few rounds but nothign sugnificant. due to his slow moving style and stature (jones had problems against aller lankier guys). jones could pot shot and taunt all he wants, and conserve energy. throw a few shots and get out.

yeah i think jones could ud him.


also remember this fight in perticular robinson-maxim is a story of caution to young boxers to not shoot there bolt. if this fight didnt happen we wouldnt of seen a clear example of exhaustion to a slower weaker oponant (weaker in class and technicianship)

The first two. :lol:

Thankfully the consensus changed.