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holy crap DELETE.... i make a more accurate prediction to the fight in another thread i make saying that i see mayweather winning the fight lol... this is embarresing lol.
Lance_Uppercut
07-28-2007, 11:10 AM
I guess i dont quite understand how you come to that conclusion.
Hatton will be all over Mayweather,
this isnt judah
this isnt gatti :lol:
this isnt sharmba mitchel :lol:
this isnt baldomir :lol:
this isnt sosa :lol:
this isnt bruseles :lol:
this isnt ndou :lol:
this isnt corley
oh i just named all of his opponents outside oscar in the last FOUR YEARS...
hatton is better then all of them.
and i think hatton has a better chance at beating mayweather then oscar did. Hatton is a much better at applying effective pressure then oscar, better to the body then oscar imo (at least at this stage), is more active, has better stamina, ect, ect...
you guys thought castillo gave mayweather trouble? yet... he is going to DOMINATE hatton? please.
go ahead and save this thread and bring it up after the fight
MY BOY HATTON WILL FINALLY GET THE CREDIT HE DESERVES AFTER HE BEATS MAYWEATHER!!!!!
for the record... *of course i can see mayweather winning, but there sure as hell isnt going to be anything easy about it*
Good post. I can only laugh at those who make just about EVERY fight prediction of theirs involving Floyd or whoever an "EASY" win. Rarely are there easy fights when it involves two top calibre opponent. But what do you expect of those who just got into boxing recently while watching Mayweather.
codeman99998
07-28-2007, 11:12 AM
I guess i dont quite understand how you come to that conclusion.
Hatton will be all over Mayweather,
this isnt judah
this isnt gatti :lol:
this isnt sharmba mitchel :lol:
this isnt baldomir :lol:
this isnt sosa :lol:
this isnt bruseles :lol:
this isnt ndou :lol:
this isnt corley
oh i just named all of his opponents outside oscar in the last FOUR YEARS...
hatton is better then all of them.
and i think hatton has a better chance at beating mayweather then oscar did. Hatton is a much better at applying effective pressure then oscar, better to the body then oscar imo (at least at this stage), is more active, has better stamina, ect, ect...
you guys thought castillo gave mayweather trouble? yet... he is going to DOMINATE hatton? please.
go ahead and save this thread and bring it up after the fight
MY BOY HATTON WILL FINALLY GET THE CREDIT HE DESERVES AFTER HE BEATS MAYWEATHER!!!!!
for the record... *of course i can see mayweather winning, but there sure as hell isnt going to be anything easy about it*
I understand your point.
Mayweather performed much much better against Castillo in their second fight.
Mayweather has a 2 inch height advantage and a 7 inch arm reach advantage over Hatton. He will be the bigger man when they fight. It's tough to swarm someone who is faster than you, bigger than you, and has a superior defense.
Orishaman
07-28-2007, 11:14 AM
PBF...Hatton....ok...the beauty and the beast...hard to pick...easy fight-not by a longshot for both...they both will have to work their hardest to win this fight...PBF will ahve to do far more than just hit and run....Hatton will have to do far more than just grapple....it will be a test for both and who ever think otherwise...well ...go watch MMA then....
J_Roth
07-28-2007, 11:26 AM
I guess i dont quite understand how you come to that conclusion.
Hatton will be all over Mayweather,
this isnt judah
this isnt gatti :lol:
this isnt sharmba mitchel :lol:
this isnt baldomir :lol:
this isnt sosa :lol:
this isnt bruseles :lol:
this isnt ndou :lol:
this isnt corley
oh i just named all of his opponents outside oscar in the last FOUR YEARS...
hatton is better then all of them.
and i think hatton has a better chance at beating mayweather then oscar did. Hatton is a much better at applying effective pressure then oscar, better to the body then oscar imo (at least at this stage), is more active, has better stamina, ect, ect...
you guys thought castillo gave mayweather trouble? yet... he is going to DOMINATE hatton? please.
go ahead and save this thread and bring it up after the fight
MY BOY HATTON WILL FINALLY GET THE CREDIT HE DESERVES AFTER HE BEATS MAYWEATHER!!!!!
for the record... *of course i can see mayweather winning, but there sure as hell isnt going to be anything easy about it* Nice post Kirk. Nothing would make me happier in December to see Hatton beat PBF in any fashion. I really hope he breaks him down and stops him too. I still have to give PBF the edge, but Ricky is a very live opponent. I also give him a better shot than Oscar.
Orishaman
07-28-2007, 11:31 AM
I say again, don;t be fools thinking that Hatton will win or PBF will win this fight will be est for both...we can say the same about Hatton:
...this is not an againg Tszyu
...this is not an over the Hill Castillo
....this is not one punch Urango
...this is not Maussa
...this is not Michael Stewart
....this is not Tackie
....this is not Vince Phillips
This is a top boxer at the top of his game.....so please ...this will be a tough fight for both
audio101
07-28-2007, 12:09 PM
I'm sure your the same guy who thought Baldomir had a chance against Mayweather......This is just another sad mismatch and easy money for Floyd.
Chief_Second
07-28-2007, 12:19 PM
runner vs. the grabber....they say styles make fights!?!
brave hatton will notch his first loss, but by a UD and not ko. i can't see him harming mayweather in any way or causing him too many problems
jimmie
07-28-2007, 12:23 PM
I dont see how Hattons hit and grab style could ever beat Floyd Mayweather. Floyd wil have it well scouted and land a combo he likes left uppercut/straight right hand at will on a incoming Hatton and bust his face up by round 4. I know Hattons a all around good fighter and can even outbox his opponets with his jab and angles but he can only do that vs B level fighters Floyd Mayweather is a A level fighter and A Plus Defense hes faster,more comfertable at Welterweight. If Hatton fights the way he fought Tsyzu being completly relentless and agressive I give him a chance to win but even that Mayweather isnt Tszyu he could very well counter Hatton to death. Mayweather 117-110 UD.
jimmie
07-28-2007, 12:23 PM
runner vs. the grabber....they say styles make fights!?!
brave hatton will notch his first loss, but by a UD and not ko. i can't see him harming mayweather in any way or causing him too many problems
He can very well stop him on cuts.
BRICKS
07-28-2007, 12:26 PM
hatton leaps and walks in and will get pot shotted all night. ugly fight for both but hatton cant catch mayweather, especially to the body. as much as id love to see mayweather in a tough fight and be tested, hatton isnt the one to do it.
1lehudson
07-28-2007, 12:28 PM
Its going to be an easy fight for Floyd because Hatton is too damn short, and his arms are too damn short. Hatton will get ate up from the outside. Ugly fight and floyd will get no credit for making hatton look like a clubfighter.
bigtime9
07-28-2007, 12:48 PM
Its going to be an easy fight for Floyd because Hatton is too damn short, and his arms are too damn short. Hatton will get ate up from the outside. Ugly fight and floyd will get no credit for making hatton look like a clubfighter.
doesn't matter if they give credit, he will have broken another record...the first fighter in the modern age to beat all four ring champs from 130-147.
Kamil
07-28-2007, 12:56 PM
This Posted by Toopretty in the other Thread..
Hattons str8 come forward pressure will make him any easy target for floyd. The thing you got to realize that you cant just come at floyd with strength ..lol and aggression..that dont work..floyd is strong too.....and can punch in a phone booth..floyd can avoid clinches by jamming elbows in the neck...Hatton will try to lunge in.only to get his throat smashed..if you notice if a guy tries to hold and hit floyd he keeps his arms out in front in punching position and sticks that forearm out..the ref cant say shit..cause the other guy is holding so they are both illegal..Hatton does not crouch or get low..he bounces with his knees bent verly little..His style is effective with slow fighters that are flat footed b/c he can bounce in and out at will and tie them up whenever..YOU CANNOT COMPULSIVELY CLINCH A FIGHTER THAT IS NOT COMING FORWARD AND THAT DOES NOT STAND FLAT FOOTED..HATTON WOULD LOOK OBVIOUS AND LOOK LIKE HE IS TRYING TO TACKLE FLOYD..HATTON HAS NO JAB..NO DEFENSE COMING IN...NO DICE.....HIS SPEED DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING B/C THE QUICKER HATTON CAN MOVE IN..FLOYD CAN PUNCH AND GET OUT. FLOYD WILL CIRCLE HATTON AND CATCH HIM FROM ALL KINDS OF ANGLES...
good post
I guess I get a laughing smiley face then because I still think Mayweather will pick Hatton apart.
Asterion
07-28-2007, 12:59 PM
All I know is that I'll be a boring megafight with Mayweather winning a difficult but clear Unanimous Decision.
ThePlugInBabies
07-28-2007, 01:02 PM
it's will be a tough fought ud for pbf, it won't be easy but ricky will lose that 0. but make no mistake, hatton will go out on his shield and fight like a madman till the end.
Relentless
07-28-2007, 01:08 PM
who's hatton fought thats as good as mayweather??
tszyu? :lol:
urango? :lol:
collazo? :lol:
Drew101
07-28-2007, 01:21 PM
Hatton likes to fall in with wide powershots on the way in, styles like that can easily be picked apart by slick boxers like Mayweather. For Hatton to be able to clinch and maul his way to victory, Hatton needs to get close to Floyd, something which I don't think he'll be able to do very often.
Yeah, good point. It's worthwhile to note that Floyd's adept at giving an opponent different looks on the inside, too, and is a pretty good bodypuncher in his own right. Even if Hatton does get close, he isn't as likely dominate Floyd as he would other fighters.
freethinker
07-28-2007, 01:24 PM
The way Hatton struggled against the slick Collazo during his last fight at 147 makes me think he will have a very hard time against Mayweather which is one of the slickest boxer around.
I'm not saying it will be an easy night for Mayweather, but I hardly see him losing to the Brit.
who's hatton fought thats as good as mayweather??
tszyu? :lol:
urango? :lol:
collazo? :lol:
How can you laugh when saying Tszyu? The chances are the bookies wil think Hatton is a smaller underdog against mayweather, than when he actually fought Tszyu. If Mayweather fought Tszyu when Hatton did, he could have lost then too.
There is no way you can discredit Tszyu. None at all. he probably isn't as good as Mayweather is now, but he was still a class act. A threat to anybody before he lost to Hatton.
Anyway, mayweather biggest threat is against pressure fighters. When someone crowds him, because of his low punch output, he can be beaten. Shit, if Oscar had better stamina, he would have won. If Hatton can throw as many punches as usual, he will win. However, saying either man will wn easily is idiotic.
Pimp C
07-28-2007, 01:38 PM
I guess i dont quite understand how you come to that conclusion.
Hatton will be all over Mayweather,
this isnt judah
this isnt gatti :lol:
this isnt sharmba mitchel :lol:
this isnt baldomir :lol:
this isnt sosa :lol:
this isnt bruseles :lol:
this isnt ndou :lol:
this isnt corley
oh i just named all of his opponents outside oscar in the last FOUR YEARS...
hatton is better then all of them.
and i think hatton has a better chance at beating mayweather then oscar did. Hatton is a much better at applying effective pressure then oscar, better to the body then oscar imo (at least at this stage), is more active, has better stamina, ect, ect...
you guys thought castillo gave mayweather trouble? yet... he is going to DOMINATE hatton? please.
go ahead and save this thread and bring it up after the fight
MY BOY HATTON WILL FINALLY GET THE CREDIT HE DESERVES AFTER HE BEATS MAYWEATHER!!!!!
for the record... *of course i can see mayweather winning, but there sure as hell isnt going to be anything easy about it*
PBF will land on that short armed no defense having punching bag like rain on a tin roof.:deal In order for Hatton to be successful he needs guys that stand in front of him Collazo exposed him and PBF win ruin him. All that falling in will lead to him being beaten to the punch or countered to hell and back. Hatton can't deal with movers and the way PBF fights off of his back foot and shows angles will give him fits. Hatton also has no jab to keep PBF honest and that spells doom. Hatton will be outboxed for the first half of the fight and after that the fight will turn into a foul fest on Hatton's part. His one-dimensional style is just what the doctor ordered for PBF. He's simply not on PBF's level PBF by wide UD or late round TKO:deal
who's hatton fought thats as good as mayweather??
tszyu? :lol:
urango? :lol:
collazo? :lol:
tszyu could have very likley beaten mayweather at the time hatton fought him and you forgot to mention castillo that gave pbf his toughest fight.
at this moment in time there isn't a better boxer than pbf, but only a fool would discount hatton, because it's not allways the best boxers that win fights.
Sheehan
07-28-2007, 01:46 PM
who's hatton fought thats as good as mayweather??
tszyu? :lol:
urango? :lol:
collazo? :lol:
I dont understand how this is relevant coz it doesnt make a difference, thats like asking before the tszyu fight "who has fought Hatton thats as good as Tszyu??" and the answer was noone but hatton still beat him into submission.
Golden Boy
07-28-2007, 01:48 PM
Ricky Hatton is immortal. Mayweather isnt the best boxer in this weight. Hatton is better than Floyd.U can see if u watch last Floyd's fight vs. De la Hoya. Floyd has strong hands but not quick.
C Money
07-28-2007, 01:51 PM
for the record... *of course i can see mayweather winning, but there sure as hell isnt going to be anything easy about it*
Absolutely agree!! I really laugh at those still bringing up Collazo as an indication of how Hatton will do in this fight:lol: Collazo and PBF are VERY DIFFERENT fighters in terms of stance, style, and physicality.
All of those talking of how EASY it will be to pick off Hatton?? Need look no further than the PBF vs DLH fight. DLH hardly used his jab and was still able to be effective at times. I pray that the same PBF shows up for Hatton. If that happens??
Hatton will add a tremendous feather to his legacy and leave millions of fans round the world celebrating the holiday season in a little brighter manner.:good
Sheehan
07-28-2007, 01:53 PM
Absolutely agree!! I really laugh at those still bringing up Collazo as an indication of how Hatton will do in this fight:lol: Collazo and PBF are VERY DIFFERENT fighters in terms of stance, style, and physicality.
All of those talking of how EASY it will be to pick off Hatton?? Need look no further than the PBF vs DLH fight. DLH hardly used his jab and was still able to be effective at times. I pray that the same PBF shows up for Hatton. If that happens??
Hatton will add a tremendous feather to his legacy and leave millions of fans round the world celebrating the holiday season in a little brighter manner.:good
:happy
KO byBRIGGS
07-28-2007, 01:57 PM
I`m not a huge fan of Floyd but he does look to have a dominant advantage over Hattton. Taller, big reach advantage, way faster hand speed as well as foot speed. Hatton isnt KO'ing Mayweather, Mayweather will take this by a wide lobsided UD.
unfortunatley my initial reaction is to side with Mayweather, not only does he have skills to run away with a fight, but he is quicker and more established at the higher weight. Hattons welterweight debut was hardly sensational and that was against a fighter not as awkward or as techinically gifted as PBF.
I think Floyd will edge a decision.
I dont think he will win by an embarrasing wide card though, look how Castillos pressure troubled floyd in their encounters and i personally dont think he is as good as Hatton when it comes to pressure or spoiling a fighters rythm (and PBF luvs to keep his rythm!). i think Rickys best chance to to stay on top of Floyd, throw fast combinations to body and head and try and out work him, which he can do, oscar was doing it before he got tired!
I think overal itll be Floys accurate, sharp punches and Hattons tendancy to throw defence out of the window that will cost him. The danger is Mayweather will pick him off and win on pts also Hatton can cut badly sometimes which is always a risk, you only have to lose the first 3 our of 4 rounds and get a cut and youve lost nowadays.
Hope Hatton can do it, would be a great upset but my head says Mayweather on points!
LeedsLad
07-28-2007, 02:02 PM
Just looking at Floyd's last few opponents then and thinking to myself, how do his fans have the cheek to say Ricky fights older fighters??:lol: This is his last 5 opponents, excluding Judah, and all were noticebly feeling their age.
Mitchell was 35
Gatti was 33
Baldo was 35
DLH was 34
If you think Hatton is going to be easy, then your very mistaken. Dont get me wrong, i think PBF will win, but i just dont think its going to be the pushover alot of you are expecting. DLH could work for 30 seconds a round and came pretty close on the scorecards, Hatton will be much busier so Floyd will have to up his workrate. I think Floyd wins a close but clear UD, in a competitive and entertaining (yes, an entertaining Floyd fight:lol:) fight.
Pimp C
07-28-2007, 02:04 PM
Ricky Hatton is immortal. Mayweather isnt the best boxer in this weight. Hatton is better than Floyd.U can see if u watch last Floyd's fight vs. De la Hoya. Floyd has strong hands but not quick.
Not quick?:patsch :lol: Bro he's the second quickest fighter at 147 right behind Zab.:deal Not to mention he fought Oscar at 154 and he still looked quick and beat Oscar to the punch. Hatton will fight PBF at 147 and he'll find out how quick PBF is.:yep
Guido
07-28-2007, 02:12 PM
doesn't matter if they give credit, he will have broken another record...the first fighter in the modern age to beat all four ring champs from 130-147.
Good point. Very good point. I'm not a mayweather fan at all, but at least I can see he's (finally) trying to establish a very complete legacy, as opposed to taking out barely ranked conteders he doesn't have any business being in the ring with. A Hatton win is a good one. I just hope he doesn't price himself out of future fights with Cotto or Mosley, or any of the top current Welters. That would be a shame, and an obvious ommission in a career that Floyd likes to hype up more than anyone.
This is good news, and a tough fight for both guys.
Relentless
07-28-2007, 02:18 PM
How can you laugh when saying Tszyu? The chances are the bookies wil think Hatton is a smaller underdog against mayweather, than when he actually fought Tszyu. If Mayweather fought Tszyu when Hatton did, he could have lost then too.
There is no way you can discredit Tszyu. None at all. he probably isn't as good as Mayweather is now, but he was still a class act. A threat to anybody before he lost to Hatton.
Anyway, mayweather biggest threat is against pressure fighters. When someone crowds him, because of his low punch output, he can be beaten. Shit, if Oscar had better stamina, he would have won. If Hatton can throw as many punches as usual, he will win. However, saying either man will wn easily is idiotic.
because tszyu is overrated, the best fighter he beat is zab judah and sharmba mitchell, hatton has a better resume than tszyu.
C Money
07-28-2007, 02:19 PM
Good point. Very good point. I'm not a mayweather fan at all, but at least I can see he's (finally) trying to establish a very complete legacy, as opposed to taking out barely ranked conteders he doesn't have any business being in the ring with. A Hatton win is a good one. I just hope he doesn't price himself out of future fights with Cotto or Mosley, or any of the top current Welters. That would be a shame, and an obvious ommission in a career that Floyd likes to hype up more than anyone.
This is good news, and a tough fight for both guys.
Dont listen to fagtime 9, he sucks floyds nuts so hard that he's previously already said PBF was the champ at 40:nono :nono :nono
As for Ring?? Since the Ring Belts go back less than 10 years and Hernandez was the last fight of a fourteen year career and Baldo is a journeyman who enjoyed his 15 minutes of fame?? The "accomplsihment, is hardly the stuff of ALL TIME LEGEND.
Castillo was a very good win and so would Hatton be, if Floyd can pull it off.:good I salute Floyd for making this fight, as this is the opportunity and first legit step towards a real and lasting legacy.
it won't look that easy for PBF because Hatton will make it look ugly, but it won't be PBF's hardest fight...116-112 PBF
Skills n Reflexes
07-28-2007, 02:31 PM
Some good things being posted here.
I am a massive fan of both fighters, both my favourites. I will have to lean towards Hatton when they fight simply because he's british but I don't want to see either lose if I'm honest.
What I will say is, if WE as general fans know that movement, short arms, open defence, speed will be a burden for Hatton, then SURE AS HELL Hattons camp know this aswell. So they'll prepare properly, whether they get it right is another matter, but if we know the advantages that Mayweather clearly has, Hattons team will know this too, so they'll work on it.
Easy pick is Mayweather UD, but still, here's hoping for a good fight regardless of the outcome.
SnR
bill poster
07-28-2007, 02:42 PM
I've seen other slower fighters trap PBF on the ropes. Why not Hatton? Everyone talks about PBF being this invincible fighter. Hatton has been more active and i think PBF will pay for that come fightnight
Alo2006
07-28-2007, 02:55 PM
Ricky Hatton is immortal. Mayweather isnt the best boxer in this weight. Hatton is better than Floyd.U can see if u watch last Floyd's fight vs. De la Hoya. Floyd has strong hands but not quick.
If u say so :lol: :nut
I say again, don;t be fools thinking that Hatton will win or PBF will win this fight will be est for both...we can say the same about Hatton:
...this is not an againg Tszyu
...this is not an over the Hill Castillo
....this is not one punch Urango
...this is not Maussa
...this is not Michael Stewart
....this is not Tackie
....this is not Vince Phillips
This is a top boxer at the top of his game.....so please ...this will be a tough fight for both
That's the same exact post I was about to make. :good
Ricky Hatton is immortal. Mayweather isnt the best boxer in this weight. Hatton is better than Floyd.U can see if u watch last Floyd's fight vs. De la Hoya. Floyd has strong hands but not quick.
If Luis Collazo was crafty and too difficult for Hatton then wait till you see him in there with Mayweather.
markbrooklyn
07-28-2007, 03:07 PM
I guess i dont quite understand how you come to that conclusion.
Hatton will be all over Mayweather,
this isnt judah
this isnt gatti :lol:
this isnt sharmba mitchel :lol:
this isnt baldomir :lol:
this isnt sosa :lol:
this isnt bruseles :lol:
this isnt ndou :lol:
this isnt corley
oh i just named all of his opponents outside oscar in the last FOUR YEARS...
hatton is better then all of them.
and i think hatton has a better chance at beating mayweather then oscar did. Hatton is a much better at applying effective pressure then oscar, better to the body then oscar imo (at least at this stage), is more active, has better stamina, ect, ect...
you guys thought castillo gave mayweather trouble? yet... he is going to DOMINATE hatton? please.
go ahead and save this thread and bring it up after the fight
MY BOY HATTON WILL FINALLY GET THE CREDIT HE DESERVES AFTER HE BEATS MAYWEATHER!!!!!
for the record... *of course i can see mayweather winning, but there sure as hell isnt going to be anything easy about it*
Its funny you came up with that list of fighters because i dont recall Hatton fighting any of them. So how can you claim he's better then them? Hatton had ALOT of trouble with Carlos Maussa till he hit him with a lucky wild punch, and everyone that seen the Collazo Hatton fight knows Collazo beat him easily. Hatton is gonna get schooled by Mayweather and you can mark that down. He wont be able to hug Mayweather like he does to everyone else.. Hatton hasnt fought no where near the competition that Floyd has fought. And they've been keeping him away from pure boxers most of his career.. He fights guys that stand right in front of him. So get your facts straight before you go and suck Hatton off :good
bill poster
07-28-2007, 03:11 PM
Collazo was a natural welter-PBF is not.. too difficult? Hatton still won the fight by a slim margin.
markbrooklyn
07-28-2007, 03:19 PM
Absolutely agree!! I really laugh at those still bringing up Collazo as an indication of how Hatton will do in this fight:lol: Collazo and PBF are VERY DIFFERENT fighters in terms of stance, style, and physicality.
All of those talking of how EASY it will be to pick off Hatton?? Need look no further than the PBF vs DLH fight. DLH hardly used his jab and was still able to be effective at times. I pray that the same PBF shows up for Hatton. If that happens??
Hatton will add a tremendous feather to his legacy and leave millions of fans round the world celebrating the holiday season in a little brighter manner.:good
How can you compare DLH to Hatton? Floyd went UP to 154 for fight the MUCH BIGGER DLH. You're blind love for Hatton is clouding your vision.. Hatton is no where near DLH.
The Kurgan
07-28-2007, 03:26 PM
How can you compare DLH to Hatton? Floyd went UP to 154 for fight the MUCH BIGGER DLH. You're blind love for Hatton is clouding your vision.. Hatton is no where near DLH.
Too right Hatton isn't DLH: he's younger, braver, faster, applies far more pressure, fitter, more willing to take risks, better on the inside with his shorter arms and better infighting skills, he's been more active, and he's far more hungry than DLH has ever been. I quite agree- Hatton is nowhere near DLH; he's about five hundred miles ahead, and he's coming for Pretty Boy's head.
Executioner
07-28-2007, 03:26 PM
Hatton is no where near DLH.
It's about styles kiddo :yep
MancMexican
07-28-2007, 03:36 PM
He can very well stop him on cuts.
Mayweather, in 2 fights, couldnt stop Castillo on cuts, who had been stopped on cuts before. Hatton has never been stopped on cuts.
DoumB
07-28-2007, 03:39 PM
I guess i dont quite understand how you come to that conclusion.
Hatton will be all over Mayweather,
this isnt judah
this isnt gatti :lol:
this isnt sharmba mitchel :lol:
this isnt baldomir :lol:
this isnt sosa :lol:
this isnt bruseles :lol:
this isnt ndou :lol:
this isnt corley
oh i just named all of his opponents outside oscar in the last FOUR YEARS...
hatton is better then all of them.
and i think hatton has a better chance at beating mayweather then oscar did. Hatton is a much better at applying effective pressure then oscar, better to the body then oscar imo (at least at this stage), is more active, has better stamina, ect, ect...
you guys thought castillo gave mayweather trouble? yet... he is going to DOMINATE hatton? please.
go ahead and save this thread and bring it up after the fight
MY BOY HATTON WILL FINALLY GET THE CREDIT HE DESERVES AFTER HE BEATS MAYWEATHER!!!!!
for the record... *of course i can see mayweather winning, but there sure as hell isnt going to be anything easy about it*
good post kirk,
howver, the sad thing is Hatton is a lot smaller then mayweather, he does have some nice attributes like his pressure style or his body work but mayweather is what we could call Hatton's nemesis, hes tricky, slick and technicaly make almost no miskates and has a very solid chin(dont jump on me on that one cause its true) even tho I think floyd wont have much trouble with Hatton I cant say its an easy fight for floyd cause hes still facing a top A fighter in Hatton...
That being said I think Floyd will have trouble ehurly in the ifght but in the middle rounds will begin to hurt hatton on his way in and force him to loose a split second when trying to get inside of floyds punching range, being more cautious hatton will get tagged and tagged a lot omre then Oscar who is another kind of boxer.
In the end the size difference and the skill disparity is too much for Hatton..
Hatton has never been picked off at range though. Although Mayweather has an advantage in reach and hieght, Hatton fights far too close to be picked of with a good jab. He fights at his own range, where the only punches he throws are short hooks and uppercuts.
It's liek Henry Armstrong. His size was always a disadvantage on paper, but who exactly jabbed his face off like the numbers say is going to happen? Nobody.
Plus, Mayweather's defence is usually him being stood still. For him to use his size, he would have to be always on the backfoot like Whitaker, which he isn't. His defence works best when he is stood still on the ropes, moving his arms and torso.
And please don't use the bullshit excuse that "Nobody Hatton has faced, who wanted to jab, was anywhere near as good as Mayweather".
If Mayweather is going to win, which is completely possible, it isn't going to be because of his size advantage. Castillo, who gave him his toughest fight, was also small, so it's not decisive.
Hatton had ALOT of trouble with Carlos Maussa till he hit him with a lucky wild punch, and everyone that seen the Collazo Hatton fight knows Collazo beat him easily.
maussa????? maussa was not great but was big, akward, with heavy hands and a good chin. hatton won every round against him and finished him off with a great left hook, how can you say it was lucky, you must be an idiot. i suppose the left to castillos body was lucky too was it?
and everyone that saw the collazo fight knows it was a close fight that could of gone eother way, but that hatton won with a UD only a biased idiot like you would say collazo won it easy.
DoumB
07-28-2007, 03:56 PM
This is not an easy fight for Hatton. Frankly after watching him agaisnt DLH, he looked very beatable.
what u dont get is that oscar is still a very hard opponent for anyone, if he didnt had stamia issue, he would had beaten floyd, the first 8 rounds were close and oscar was ahead on lederman scorecard if I remember correcly, oscar with his jab and quick hands make him a realy hard target for everyone, floyd had trouble finding him in these 8 first rounds, rewatched the fight again yesterdays and almost every right floyd throws in the first half of the fight(even the left hooks) are blocked bye dlh's gloves, PBF looked beatable by an ELITE fighter
maussa????? maussa was not great but was big, akward, with heavy hands and a good chin. hatton won every round against him and finished him off with a great left hook, how can you say it was lucky, you must be an idiot. i suppose the left to castillos body was lucky too was it?
and everyone that saw the collazo fight knows it was a close fight that could of gone eother way, but that hatton won with a UD only a biased idiot like you would say collazo won it easy.
The Collazo fight was a close one and could've gone either way, the UD was bullshit in my opinion.
This is not an easy fight for Hatton (Or even Mayweather ;)). Frankly after watching him agaisnt DLH, he looked very beatable.
Exactly. And liek I said earlier, if De La Hoya had better stamina, he would of won. As soon as he became tired and couldn't throw combos or his jab, he got picked apart. Remarkably similar to Foreman/Ali, I think. Mayweather knew he had better stamina and defence, so let DLH tire himself out, then finish him off in the late rounds.
The Philly Shell has a serious flaw. It is not effective against pressure fighters or a high puch utput. Hatton and Cotto have both of these, Williams has one, so that's why I think they can beat Mayweather. The only reason Mayweather can beat them, is because of his physicl abilities, but stylewise he has a disadvantage against fighters like Hatton or Cotto.
rodney
07-28-2007, 05:41 PM
[quote=kirk]I guess i dont quite understand how you come to that conclusion.
Hatton will be all over Mayweather,
this isnt judah
this isnt gatti :lol:
this isnt sharmba mitchel :lol:
this isnt baldomir :lol:
this isnt sosa :lol:
this isnt bruseles :lol:
this isnt ndou :lol:
this isnt corley
Hatton sucks. Cant box a lick.
Good Wrestler.Hatton sucks. Cant box a lick. Good Wrestler. Hatton sucks. Cant box a lick. Good wrestler.
hatton is better then all of them.
MagnificentMatt
07-28-2007, 05:51 PM
I guess i dont quite understand how you come to that conclusion.
Hatton will be all over Mayweather,
this isnt judah
this isnt gatti :lol:
this isnt sharmba mitchel :lol:
this isnt baldomir :lol:
this isnt sosa :lol:
this isnt bruseles :lol:
this isnt ndou :lol:
this isnt corley
oh i just named all of his opponents outside oscar in the last FOUR YEARS...
hatton is better then all of them.
and i think hatton has a better chance at beating mayweather then oscar did. Hatton is a much better at applying effective pressure then oscar, better to the body then oscar imo (at least at this stage), is more active, has better stamina, ect, ect...
you guys thought castillo gave mayweather trouble? yet... he is going to DOMINATE hatton? please.
go ahead and save this thread and bring it up after the fight
MY BOY HATTON WILL FINALLY GET THE CREDIT HE DESERVES AFTER HE BEATS MAYWEATHER!!!!!
for the record... *of course i can see mayweather winning, but there sure as hell isnt going to be anything easy about it*
The thing people dont understand, Floyd is 10x faster than the Hitman....but heres the thing people really dont understand, hes a giant compared to Hatton too, he has all the size/reach advantages as well, expect to see the smaller man made look bad by stiff double/trible jabs and good footwork, than when Floyd wants to have fun he will go onto the ropes, just to piss Hatton off, than get right back to his jab and footwork. Uhh...Prediction Floyd UD12 Hatton
What i want to see? = Hatton KO1 Floyd
Toopretty
07-28-2007, 05:56 PM
Absolutely agree!! I really laugh at those still bringing up Collazo as an indication of how Hatton will do in this fight:lol: Collazo and PBF are VERY DIFFERENT fighters in terms of stance, style, and physicality.
All of those talking of how EASY it will be to pick off Hatton?? Need look no further than the PBF vs DLH fight. DLH hardly used his jab and was still able to be effective at times. I pray that the same PBF shows up for Hatton. If that happens??
Hatton will add a tremendous feather to his legacy and leave millions of fans round the world celebrating the holiday season in a little brighter manner.:good
Delahoya got in the inside with the jab...and with DEFENSE a high tight guard..Hatton cannot do this...has never done this..all I have to say..Is smothering fighters with no serious fire power like hatton will get toasted by the philly shell..And one thing about collazo..he fights at a slower pace then any welter he is very conservative with his punches and he is an above average counter puncher..and he stood dead in front of hatton..that being said floyd moves is faster and is a sharper puncher probably with more power...so you are right..you cant compare the B level collazo to floyd:bart
Silver
07-28-2007, 05:59 PM
well, you talk about mayweather's resume, but hatton hasnt fought a fighter of mayweather's league. most likley it will be a competitve fight but dont be suprised if its not. you have to wait and see.
Good post. I can only laugh at those who make just about EVERY fight prediction of theirs involving Floyd or whoever an "EASY" win. Rarely are there easy fights when it involves two top calibre opponent. But what do you expect of those who just got into boxing recently while watching Mayweather. exactly :good
PBF...Hatton....ok...the beauty and the beast...hard to pick...easy fight-not by a longshot for both...they both will have to work their hardest to win this fight...PBF will ahve to do far more than just hit and run....Hatton will have to do far more than just grapple....it will be a test for both and who ever think otherwise...well ...go watch MMA then.... no doubt this will be a tough fight for both fighters. but i dont think anyone in their right mind would say this would be an easy fight for hatton... and i havnt seen that said.
I understand your point.
Mayweather performed much much better against Castillo in their second fight.
Mayweather has a 2 inch height advantage and a 7 inch arm reach advantage over Hatton. He will be the bigger man when they fight. It's tough to swarm someone who is faster than you, bigger than you, and has a superior defense. yes it will. but thats what makes some fighters special.
fighting is not all about statistics and physicalities... sometimes special fighters, like mayweather... and also like hatton, overcome those hurdles.
and i think hatton has the spirit to do so.
Nice post Kirk. Nothing would make me happier in December to see Hatton beat PBF in any fashion. I really hope he breaks him down and stops him too. I still have to give PBF the edge, but Ricky is a very live opponent. I also give him a better shot than Oscar.:thumbsup
I'm sure your the same guy who thought Baldomir had a chance against Mayweather......This is just another sad mismatch and easy money for Floyd. get your facts straight if your going to toss around assumptions audio.
baldomir didnt deserve to be in the same ring as mayweather... and i voiced that at the time. easy work.
anyone that thinks this is going to be easy work for mayweather... sorry, i have to agree with O-man, maybe switch to mma?
Orishaman
07-28-2007, 07:38 PM
Plain and simple, this be the first time for Hatton to face a top boxer at the top oif his game....and it will be the first time PBF will face a top fighter at the top of his game since the PBF v. Castillo I, so they both have plenty to proof
Hattons str8 come forward pressure will make him any easy target for floyd. The thing you got to realize that you cant just come at floyd with strength ..lol and aggression..that dont work..floyd is strong too.....and can punch in a phone booth..floyd can avoid clinches by jamming elbows in the neck...Hatton will try to lunge in.only to get his throat smashed..if you notice if a guy tries to hold and hit floyd he keeps his arms out in front in punching position and sticks that forearm out..the ref cant say shit..cause the other guy is holding so they are both illegal..Hatton does not crouch or get low..he bounces with his knees bent verly little..His style is effective with slow fighters that are flat footed b/c he can bounce in and out at will and tie them up whenever..YOU CANNOT COMPULSIVELY CLINCH A FIGHTER THAT IS NOT COMING FORWARD AND THAT DOES NOT STAND FLAT FOOTED..HATTON WOULD LOOK OBVIOUS AND LOOK LIKE HE IS TRYING TO TACKLE FLOYD..HATTON HAS NO JAB..NO DEFENSE COMING IN...NO DICE.....HIS SPEED DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING B/C THE QUICKER HATTON CAN MOVE IN..FLOYD CAN PUNCH AND GET OUT. FLOYD WILL CIRCLE HATTON AND CATCH HIM FROM ALL KINDS OF ANGLES...
this is a very good post, and i agree... it is the probable that it will happen.
but, despite all that.... i still say, and watch.. youll see... this is not going to be easy. great post btw
Good idea to leave DLH out Cause even at this point DLH stops Hatton.:good and that has nothing to do with a mayweather matchup :good
Orishaman
07-28-2007, 07:54 PM
Hattons str8 come forward pressure will make him any easy target for floyd. The thing you got to realize that you cant just come at floyd with strength ..lol and aggression..that dont work..floyd is strong too.....and can punch in a phone booth..floyd can avoid clinches by jamming elbows in the neck...Hatton will try to lunge in.only to get his throat smashed..if you notice if a guy tries to hold and hit floyd he keeps his arms out in front in punching position and sticks that forearm out..the ref cant say shit..cause the other guy is holding so they are both illegal..Hatton does not crouch or get low..he bounces with his knees bent verly little..His style is effective with slow fighters that are flat footed b/c he can bounce in and out at will and tie them up whenever..YOU CANNOT COMPULSIVELY CLINCH A FIGHTER THAT IS NOT COMING FORWARD AND THAT DOES NOT STAND FLAT FOOTED..HATTON WOULD LOOK OBVIOUS AND LOOK LIKE HE IS TRYING TO TACKLE FLOYD..HATTON HAS NO JAB..NO DEFENSE COMING IN...NO DICE.....HIS SPEED DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING B/C THE QUICKER HATTON CAN MOVE IN..FLOYD CAN PUNCH AND GET OUT. FLOYD WILL CIRCLE HATTON AND CATCH HIM FROM ALL KINDS OF ANGLES...
this is a very good post, and i agree... it is the probable that it will happen.
but, despite all that.... i still say, and watch.. youll see... this is not going to be easy. great post btw
Hatton will not overwhelm PBF like he did Tszyu, PBF is in far better shape that Hatton and he will out last Hatton if it come to stamina...
PBF will not be able to hit an run against Hatton like he did against Baldomir, since Hatton will applied constant pressure, in si milar fashion to Judah did for 4 rounds against PBF..
Hatton will not be able force PBF into frivolous exchanges like he did against Castillo since PBF can and will dance for 12 rounds...
PBF will not be able to picj ands choose the spots when to fight as he ususally do, since Hatton will keep coming forward...
Basically what I am saying is that this will be a tough fight for boxers and who ever has the chance to impossed his will. consistently for 12 rounds will win....end of story...this has the making of a very stylisticly intersting fight
AllyT
07-28-2007, 08:02 PM
I think Hatton has a better chance than is generally believed. Opinion in the USA is based on very few of his fights. As a consequence many do not see the subtleties of Hatton’s game. Mayweather is obviously a ‘class act’, but so is Hatton. If you think he is just a slugger you are not watching closely enough. He is fast, has excellent footwork and quickly finds and exploits angles. Hatton is a master at cutting off the ring and he is a lethal body puncher. He was born to pressure fight and is as tough as old boots.
I am unclear if the weight has yet been agreed but I do not think it matters much. Although Hatton is not a natural welter, neither is Mayweather who has boxed only three bouts at that weight. I think comments on Hatton’s showing against Luis Collazo have been overly critical. Although by no means his best performance, I felt he was plodding his way to victory and was comfortably ahead until he got lazy and was caught in the 12th. He was ragged for a minute or so and then came back to dominate for the remainder of the round. Also, Hatton had been looking for bouts at light-welter taking the bout at welter at 6 weeks notice. In this case he has 19 weeks and has probably been thinking in terms of a bout at or near welter since Castillo.
Mayweather’s reach or elusiveness will not guarantee him victory. Hatton pretty much always gives away reach. He will happily concede blows to find his distance then he will unleash. De La Hoya was not exactly fleet of foot against Mayweather but was still able to catch him. Mayweather was a bit lucky against De La Hoya. I saw it as a close bout with De La Hoya just nicking it. Two judges had it within two rounds although disagreeing as to the victor. I could see where they were coming from but the third judge had a four round difference which was generous to Mayweather. Hatton is faster sharper than De La Hoya and will give Mayweather a tougher time as he will catch him more often. Hatton will see this as the opportunity of his life and will not go down without a fight. Win or lose I think Mayweather is in for a battle.
Executioner
07-28-2007, 08:04 PM
Good post. I can only laugh at those who make just about EVERY fight prediction of theirs involving Floyd or whoever an "EASY" win. Rarely are there easy fights when it involves two top calibre opponent. But what do you expect of those who just got into boxing recently while watching Mayweather.
I agree.
Floyd fans don't know what objective is.
Jason997
07-28-2007, 08:57 PM
I like Hatton and I wish him well, but PBF will bitch slap him all over the ring for 12 consecutive rounds.
- Jason
Was searching for something and saw something that kirk posted.
good stuff Kirk =D
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