View Full Version : Hatton's chances against Mayweather
Slothrop
07-28-2007, 01:54 PM
I believe this would be a closer fight than most people seem to think.
PH|LLA
07-28-2007, 01:55 PM
what weight are they fighting at?
JC2006
07-28-2007, 01:56 PM
what weight are they fighting at?
147 apparently.
PH|LLA
07-28-2007, 01:57 PM
20%
Pimp C
07-28-2007, 01:59 PM
Chances? Slim and none.:deal
Strange that your poll has a 100% option but not a 0%.
brooklyn1550
07-28-2007, 02:09 PM
30 percent...If he comes prepared and in great shape, he will make Floyd fight hard for the win.
peter5
07-28-2007, 02:23 PM
When is hatton not prepared and in good shape? fuck me people, hatton is going to be the most awkward and nastiest opponent that cunt mayweather has faced, if castillo can cause him problems, then hattons speed, relentlessness and sheer determination can casue floyd fits. Im not saying hatton will destroy pbf, i hoipe so, but it will def be his hardest earned win if he gets it
Slothrop
07-28-2007, 02:24 PM
Strange that your poll has a 100% option but not a 0%.
There's always a chance.
andyZOR
07-28-2007, 02:26 PM
60%
LeedsLad
07-28-2007, 02:27 PM
70/30 in PBFs favour
The Kurgan
07-28-2007, 02:29 PM
Chances? Slim and none.:deal
So this is yet another soft touch fight for Floyd? Damn, he certainly is scared of a tough test, isn't he? I mean, given how everyone knows he'll win easily, you have to wonder why he's even taking this bout.
You agree then, that this bout is a GIANT step back for Floyd, and pretty damaging to his legacy.
Nothing's impossible. 10%
peter5
07-28-2007, 02:34 PM
All you PBF nuthuggers need to show a bit more respect, Hatton is gonna bring a whole lot of hurt down on floyd the shit talking twat, Ive never wanted a man to be hurt so much as I want hatton to hurt floyd! its a hard job, but hatton has the desire and tenacity to do it!
Wait a second, someone said 100%? Maybe we should have an avatar bet, and after I win, I'll give you an avatar of a donkey.
SkillsSoSmooth
07-28-2007, 02:38 PM
When is hatton not prepared and in good shape? fuck me people, hatton is going to be the most awkward and nastiest opponent that cunt mayweather has faced, if castillo can cause him problems, then hattons speed, relentlessness and sheer determination can casue floyd fits. Im not saying hatton will destroy pbf, i hoipe so, but it will def be his hardest earned win if he gets it
And if that fat good for nothing manc Ricky Fatton had problems with Collazo then Floyd should have him out of there in 4 rounds, you see we can all play that game!! :lol: , Hatton simply doesn't have the jab or the power to make it a contest, and no doubt that will be the excuse for the Floyd haters once Floyd exposes that bum. :rofl
peter5
07-28-2007, 02:40 PM
yeah, and hatton had 7 weeks to prepare for the step up in weight and change in opponent, so now he has the time to adapt I can see a better outcome, I agree about the jab, he doesnt throw enough punches coming in, but if he gets it right on the night, he will do floyd, and there will be none happier than myself!
Alo2006
07-28-2007, 02:42 PM
When is hatton not prepared and in good shape? fuck me people, hatton is going to be the most awkward and nastiest opponent that cunt mayweather has faced, if castillo can cause him problems, then hattons speed, relentlessness and sheer determination can casue floyd fits. Im not saying hatton will destroy pbf, i hoipe so, but it will def be his hardest earned win if he gets it
A prime Castillo gave Floyd problems, lets not forget that. I think Hatton will do well early in the fight, but Floyd will break him down as the fight goes on.
peter5
07-28-2007, 02:44 PM
I cant see floyd do anything but running and jabbing, picking his shots, he doesnt ever want to engage if he thinks he might get hit back, but I guess he wins that way so why change? thats why he couldnt sell out my 3 man tent!
SkillsSoSmooth
07-28-2007, 02:47 PM
yeah, and hatton had 7 weeks to prepare for the step up in weight and change in opponent, so now he has the time to adapt I can see a better outcome, I agree about the jab, he doesnt throw enough punches coming in, but if he gets it right on the night, he will do floyd, and there will be none happier than myself!
You can make excuses for Ricky but then Floyd broke his hand against Castillo in the first fight so he's got an excuse also, at least Floyd had the guts to get back in the ring with Castillo and beat him, did Ricky give Collazo a rematch?, hell no :lol: , and you can talk about Ricky having "time to prepare" and "if he get's it right" but i think you need to realize he's facing the POUND FOR POUND best in the world, if Floyd is in the mood then it really doesn't matter what Ricky brings because he's simply not on Floyd's level.
All you PBF nuthuggers need to show a bit more respect, Hatton is gonna bring a whole lot of hurt down on floyd the shit talking twat, Ive never wanted a man to be hurt so much as I want hatton to hurt floyd! its a hard job, but hatton has the desire and tenacity to do it!
No doubt it will be a good fight but your the one showing no respect .. Really now, Hatton going to bring a whole lot of Hurt ?!?!?!? a Tuff fight maybe, but a whole lot of hurt ?!?!? he's Hatton not Tyson this is Floyd not Carlos Maussa..Remember it was Ricky's shit talking that got him the fight.
peter5
07-28-2007, 02:53 PM
Because Ricky wants the fight, believes he can win it, so what Floyd broke his hand in the castillo fight, hatton has to deal with cuts all day long in his fights, and believe me, hatton is gonna hurt floyd, you all talk as if this bloke is the best thing since sliced bread, i expect you reckon his win against baldomir was a 'great' win! :happy
o_money
07-28-2007, 02:54 PM
I think after all the recent fights between many top fighters who were both relatively prime like cotto judah, DLH-pbf, and winky-hopkins most people will have realized that when to A or A+ level fihgters meet eachother the fight is almost certainly going to be a close one. I see nothing different about this fight.
I do however give hatton only a 30% chance of winning this fight but thats not to say that he won't give floyd a really good go.
Personally its just too bad the mainstream public isn't paying much attention to boxing these days because there are some great fights being made!
Pimp C
07-28-2007, 02:54 PM
So this is yet another soft touch fight for Floyd? Damn, he certainly is scared of a tough test, isn't he? I mean, given how everyone knows he'll win easily, you have to wonder why he's even taking this bout.
You agree then, that this bout is a GIANT step back for Floyd, and pretty damaging to his legacy.
I've always thought Hatton was overrated as hell and I picked PBF to school Hatton back in 2005. Hatton isn't a soft touch because he's a top 10 P4P fighter and linear at 140, with said I don't think he has a puncher's chance in this fight. The only chance he has is if PBF some how breaks his hands very early on in the fight..
Vanboxingfan
07-28-2007, 02:55 PM
A prime Castillo gave Floyd problems, lets not forget that. I think Hatton will do well early in the fight, but Floyd will break him down as the fight goes on.
That's pretty much how I see it unfolding as well, although the possibility exists of Hatton getting PBF against the ropes and unleasing some serious bodyshots.
peter5
07-28-2007, 02:55 PM
And as for respect, I dont show respect for Mayweather or his fans, because he shows absolutely no respect for his peers, and if your a real fan of his then your a arrogant twat too!
Cerberus
07-28-2007, 02:57 PM
Hatton is not on Floyd's level and it will show in this fight.. those expecting a competitve contest should be prepared to be disappointed..
I expect a milder version of Floyd vs. Gatti, minus the stoppage (think Floyd wins by clear decision).. it wont be as one-sided as that fight, because Hatton won't waste his time trying to outbox Floyd like Gatti did (wtf was he thinking?). Hatton's going to come straight in and bang, and Floyd's going to catch him coming in all night long. It's not going to be pretty..
Floyd will catch most of Ricky's punches with his gloves or make him miss badly with his superior footwork.. Ricky's best punches will be to Floyd's body. He will get in a clean shot or two and get the crowd buzzed.. but there will be no question whatsoever that Floyd will have dominated him by the end of the fight (somewhere along the lines of 10 rounds to 2, or 9 rounds to 3).
When he's hugging Floyd, Ricky will also get some shots in to the side of Floyd's body and head, but nothing that will bother Floyd.. he will try his bully tactics, but he will suprised how slippery PBF really is.. you can't hug what you can't touch.. Too quick, too elusive.. PBF is going to make him look like a club fighter...
SkillsSoSmooth
07-28-2007, 02:59 PM
Because Ricky wants the fight, believes he can win it, so what Floyd broke his hand in the castillo fight, hatton has to deal with cuts all day long in his fights, and believe me, hatton is gonna hurt floyd, you all talk as if this bloke is the best thing since sliced bread, i expect you reckon his win against baldomir was a 'great' win! :happy
And your talking like Fatton is SRR :lol: , Floyd just beat a man who's Bigger, Stronger and more skilled than Ricky in Oscar De la hoya!!, what on earth does he have to fear?, oh yeah Ricky beat a man he's already beaten TWICE!! :rofl , Floyd is the best in the business right now, so no YOU need to show some respect,
Marnoff
07-28-2007, 02:59 PM
There's always a chance.
Exactly, so why is there a 100% option?
Marnoff
07-28-2007, 03:01 PM
Strange that your poll has a 100% option but not a 0%.
Just a way for the person making the poll to introduce bias to an otherwise objective form of statistics.
peter5
07-28-2007, 03:07 PM
And your talking like Fatton is SRR :lol: , Floyd just beat a man who's Bigger, Stronger and more skilled than Ricky in Oscar De la hoya!!, what on earth does he have to fear?, oh yeah Ricky beat a man he's already beaten TWICE!! :rofl , Floyd is the best in the business right now, so no YOU need to show some respect,
Yeah, a man way past his prime, has stamina problems (20 punches a round!) so ricky beats that five times over. Im not trying to disrespect floyd, although i hate him with a vengence, but ricky will be his worst nightmare, floyd has never fought anyone with the intent of hatton, and fuck castillo, im not comparing them two, castillo plods compared to hatton, its a completely different fight! Yeah, i will show respect when floyd does, so probably never!:blurp
o_money
07-28-2007, 03:17 PM
I've always thought Hatton was overrated as hell and I picked PBF to school Hatton back in 2005. Hatton isn't a soft touch because he's a top 10 P4P fighter and linear at 140, with said I don't think he has a puncher's chance in this fight. The only chance he has is if PBF some how breaks his hands very early on in the fight..
I agree with one point you make.....ricky ain't bringing the pain he's bringing the hustle. And if he can't out work floyd he's got no chance. Fortunently, he's a bulldog in the ring, floyd has a tendency to only want to do just enough to win a fight when he's in with a good guy (that not his skill level its just his mentality), and the philly shell doesn't work as well against a body attack.....so the fight should be competitive for a the most part.
peter5
07-28-2007, 03:21 PM
Listen, this aint no gatti, baldomir, mitchell or judah (mental problems) this is an in your face, 3 mins of every round, cannot be put off pain in the ass kind of fighter. Im not suggesting that ricky is the second coming of the great roberto duran, im just saying that this fight will be a lot harder than many of you folk seem to be suggesting!
elTerrible
07-28-2007, 03:26 PM
Mayweather should win easy. Fatton lost that fight at 147 to Collazo. Collazo is a nobody, old man Mosley boxed Collazo's ears off and won an easy UD.
In the US and at 147 Hatton doesnt have a chance in hell. If this was at 140 in the UK with a ref that lets him wrestle and back in 2004 then Hatton would have had a 50% chance.
chliJs
07-28-2007, 03:27 PM
25%
The Kurgan
07-28-2007, 03:29 PM
I've always thought Hatton was overrated as hell and I picked PBF to school Hatton back in 2005. Hatton isn't a soft touch because he's a top 10 P4P fighter and linear at 140, with said I don't think he has a puncher's chance in this fight. The only chance he has is if PBF some how breaks his hands very early on in the fight..
So you're saying he doesn't have a chance? If he has almost no chance, then he's a soft touch opponent. Therefore, you're saying PBF is a coward? Fuck you! Floyd is P4P #1 and is taking a tough fight here.
I HATE people who irrationally hate PBF just because he has a flashy personality. Hate the man if you want, but respect him as a boxer. :twisted:
Fuck PBF haters. :bbb
peter5
07-28-2007, 03:35 PM
I respect Floyds skill, not his persona, hatton can take him all the way, no doubt about that!
Optimist
07-28-2007, 03:37 PM
Cant remember the last time I posted on this forum but I gotta say...
HEARD IT ALL BEFORE!
Hatton vs. Tszyu was exactly the same. I have given Hatton 40% chance - same as I would have given him againts Kostya. He can bring something new to Floyd.
I am certain whatever happens this will be a classic fight one way or another.
SkillsSoSmooth
07-28-2007, 03:37 PM
Yeah, a man way past his prime, has stamina problems (20 punches a round!) so ricky beats that five times over. Im not trying to disrespect floyd, although i hate him with a vengence, but ricky will be his worst nightmare, floyd has never fought anyone with the intent of hatton, and fuck castillo, im not comparing them two, castillo plods compared to hatton, its a completely different fight! Yeah, i will show respect when floyd does, so probably never!:blurp
And Ricky has never faced anyone who's anywhere near Floyd's level, and Skill beats "intent" all day long. :lol:
Optimist
07-28-2007, 03:40 PM
And Ricky has never faced anyone who's anywhere near Floyd's level, and Skill beats "intent" all day long. :lol:
Ricky has fought and beat into submission Zoo, who was the WORLD NO.1 AT THE TIME.
How can you be sure that PB can take the pressure if it comes?
The Kurgan
07-28-2007, 03:40 PM
And Ricky has never faced anyone who's anywhere near Floyd's level, and Skill beats "intent" all day long. :lol:
Er, the FOTC pretty much proved that will can beat skill.
peter5
07-28-2007, 03:45 PM
Ricky has fought and beat into submission Zoo, who was the WORLD NO.1 AT THE TIME.
How can you be sure that PB can take the pressure if it comes?
exactly, like i say, floyd has never, ever, fought anyone like ricky, you can say what you want, but this is new territory for floyd!:cool:
SkillsSoSmooth
07-28-2007, 03:45 PM
Ricky has fought and beat into submission Zoo, who was the WORLD NO.1 AT THE TIME.
How can you be sure that PB can take the pressure if it comes?
"Zoo" was not on Floyd's level and in any case he was past it anyway, and you wanna know why Floyd can "take the pressure"?, because Oscar tryed to do the same things and failed, and as i said he's a bigger, stronger and more skilled boxer than Fatton, people are forgetting Floyd has the height and reach advantage, that spells big trouble for Ricky, :lol:
peter5
07-28-2007, 03:49 PM
Once again you bring up Oscar. Oscar didnt have the workrate, the intensity, the will to do what ricky will. and as for Zoo, he whooped Mitchell in 2 i think, then afterwards floyd did mitchell in 6, so go figure!
valdez
07-28-2007, 03:51 PM
I think this fight is going to suprise alot of people..
Optimist
07-28-2007, 03:54 PM
"Zoo" was not on Floyd's level and in any case he was past it anyway, and you wanna know why Floyd can "take the pressure"?, because Oscar tryed to do the same things and failed, and as i said he's a bigger, stronger and more skilled boxer than Fatton, people are forgetting Floyd has the height and reach advantage, that spells big trouble for Ricky, :lol:
OK - Zoo's record 2000-2004.
Sharmba Mitchell ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) TKO 3
Jesse James Leija ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) TKO 6
Ben Tackie ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) UD 12
Zab Judah ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) TKO 2
Oktay Urkal ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) UD 12
Sharmba Mitchell ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) TKO 7
Julio Cesar Chavez ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) TKO 6
Shit, he even beat Roger Mayweather in 95!
Trust me Zoo was a very, very good fighter. American fight fans gave Hatton 0% chance of winning that fight.
Lets see what occurs shall we.
sonny73
07-28-2007, 03:55 PM
"Zoo" was not on Floyd's level and in any case he was past it anyway, and you wanna know why Floyd can "take the pressure"?, because Oscar tryed to do the same things and failed, and as i said he's a bigger, stronger and more skilled boxer than Fatton, people are forgetting Floyd has the height and reach advantage, that spells big trouble for Ricky, :lol:
Tszyu WAS on Mayweathers level when they fought,he was regarded as the better 140 man at the time,only reason Mayweather was regarded on the same level as Tszyu was the multiple weights thing.As for the chance that Hatton has on beating Mayweather it will depend on factors outside the 2 fighters.Most importantly the ref,if he allows the protagonists to fight close instead of separating them every 10 sec then Hatton has a great chance if fully fit.
SkillsSoSmooth
07-28-2007, 03:56 PM
Once again you bring up Oscar. Oscar didnt have the workrate, the intensity, the will to do what ricky will. and as for Zoo, he whooped Mitchell in 2 i think, then afterwards floyd did mitchell in 6, so go figure!
And you brought up Castillo so practice what you preach!!, even now Oscar is better than Ricky so why shouldn't i bring up that fight? :lol: ,
cardstars
07-28-2007, 03:56 PM
I gave Ricky a 30% chance. Believe me, I hope he beats the crap out of PBF but I dont think he will be able to catch him. I can actully see a stoppage in the fight, cause when Ricky tries to get in close or tries to wrap him up PBF will catch him all night. Hes just too fast and slippery for Hatton to get near him to do any damage
Of course he has a chance, I'll probably give him 30% here, every fighter that has the guts to step in that ring has a chance for sure and Hatton is a very good fighter so I don't see why anyone will vote 10%.
SkillsSoSmooth
07-28-2007, 03:58 PM
OK - Zoo's record 2000-2004.
Sharmba Mitchell ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) TKO 3
Jesse James Leija ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) TKO 6
Ben Tackie ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) UD 12
Zab Judah ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) TKO 2
Oktay Urkal ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) UD 12
Sharmba Mitchell ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) TKO 7
Julio Cesar Chavez ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) TKO 6
Shit, he even beat Roger Mayweather in 95!
Trust me Zoo was a very, very good fighter. American fight fans gave Hatton 0% chance of winning that fight.
Lets see what occurs shall we.
Most of those fighters were bums though, :lol:
peter5
07-28-2007, 04:01 PM
And you brought up Castillo so practice what you preach!!, even now Oscar is better than Ricky so why shouldn't i bring up that fight? :lol: ,
You brought up castillo you twat, you said Gayweather had already beaten him twice, so check your own shit out before preaching it!
Optimist
07-28-2007, 04:07 PM
Most of those fighters were bums though, :lol:
You are taking the piss of course. 2 of them had last fights against Cotto and as for JCC - yeah, mega bum.
o_money
07-28-2007, 04:11 PM
"Zoo" was not on Floyd's level and in any case he was past it anyway, and you wanna know why Floyd can "take the pressure"?, because Oscar tryed to do the same things and failed, and as i said he's a bigger, stronger and more skilled boxer than Fatton, people are forgetting Floyd has the height and reach advantage, that spells big trouble for Ricky, :lol:
oscar didn't try the same thing....did you see the fight he tried to jab and box his way to the victory and didn't look half bad for most of the fight. But in the end he got pick apart and slowed down. Yes at some points when they were both on the ropes he tried to push floyd around and flurry to the body, but thats just smart fighting to give the judgest something to think about. That wasn't what DLH was trying to win the fight on.
DLH is not a pressure fight. Its not his game and believe me ricky is much better at fighting that way then DLh.
Whether or not he is able to properly pressure PBF is another matter. But I wouldn't rate floyds ability to handle pressure based on the DLH fight because thats just not what happened.
If you want to see Floyd under pressure see the two castillo fights and the chavez fight.
Optimist
07-28-2007, 04:18 PM
JCC was well past his prime though wasn't he in his 40's or close to it?
Yeah, but he was still 100-4 or something. Would have given many other fighters of the time a kicking.
peter5
07-28-2007, 04:21 PM
oscar didn't try the same thing....did you see the fight he tried to jab and box his way to the victory and didn't look half bad for most of the fight. But in the end he got pick apart and slowed down. Yes at some points when they were both on the ropes he tried to push floyd around and flurry to the body, but thats just smart fighting to give the judgest something to think about. That wasn't what DLH was trying to win the fight on.
DLH is not a pressure fight. Its not his game and believe me ricky is much better at fighting that way then DLh.
Whether or not he is able to properly pressure PBF is another matter. But I wouldn't rate floyds ability to handle pressure based on the DLH fight because thats just not what happened.
If you want to see Floyd under pressure see the two castillo fights and the chavez fight.
exactly what i have been trying to say all along!:happy
Hatton brings something new to floyd, lest see how he handles it!:rasta
George W Hedge
07-28-2007, 04:21 PM
I voted 40% for 3 reasons....
1. Hatton has been under-rated by the pbf camp.
2. I lean towards floyd by clean punching.
3. Hatton`s style could coz probs, lots of them.
:good
As much as I would love for Floyd to get his ass kicked, I don't think Hatton is the one to do it, especially at 147. The odds should be something like -230 for Mayweather to win and +175 for Hatton to win. I think this is a great opportunity for PBF to shine and have a career defining performance. Hatton is moving up to a weight he's not comfortable at and he's up against a guy who is an 100% elite in his prime with the style he's not comfortable with. I think Floyd COULD blow Hatton out, but WILL HE is another question. I'm guessing he'll do enough to get a clear decision, but not enough to destroy Hatton. That's one of the main things that pisses me off about Floyd. He doesn't care about putting on the most dominant performance he possibly could, he's happy with just winning.
bill poster
07-28-2007, 04:25 PM
Where is this fight taking place?
If Hatton manages to hurt PBF... its going to be a good fight trust me
samita
07-28-2007, 04:28 PM
I couldn't find an option for 0.000000000000000000001%
warrior85
07-28-2007, 04:32 PM
its at 147,but hatton will be comin in just over 140 ive heard,i see a upset,hatton winsthe difference is floyd doesnt want to lose,while hatton wants to win if u no what i mean
peter5
07-28-2007, 04:34 PM
its at 147,but hatton will be comin in just over 140 ive heard,i see a upset,hatton winsthe difference is floyd doesnt want to lose,while hatton wants to win if u no what i mean
hunger, determination, pride, all adds up to a Hatton win, Amen to that motherfuckers!:D
bill poster
07-28-2007, 04:39 PM
He better worry about hitting him first
yeah i forgot he runs like hot butter:yikes
samita
07-28-2007, 04:39 PM
hunger, determination, pride, all adds up to a Hatton win, Amen to that motherfuckers!:D
imagine him putting the fucker to sleep in the first round from a body shot a la castillo, amen TO THAT :happy
Druid
07-28-2007, 04:41 PM
One guys wants to be elusive all night, the other wants to pressure on his ay in and then grab. Very contrasting styles.
I voted 30% chance for Hatton.
Mayweather doesn't tire, is virtually impossible to hurt (good chin and elusive) and is a bigger, faster more naturally skilled fighter.
Ricky gets a 30% chance because he is unbeaten and it is impossible to tell how these styles will match up.
This will either be an epic fight or a snooze fest.
If I had to choose between one PPV at the end of this year I'd go for Cotto V's Mosley, this has FOTY written all over it. I'm am glad my choices are not so limited as I am buying PBF V's Hatton, interesting at the very least and will be another huge 2007 bout, especially in Europe.
peter5
07-28-2007, 04:49 PM
Now everyones talking of Hatton KO'ing Floyd, but what if Floyd KO's Hatton? What would you have to say if that happened?
cant see it happening my man, ricky wants it too much, adrenalin will be running for 12 rounds of pounding floyd into sand! :blurp
bill poster
07-28-2007, 04:51 PM
imagine him putting the fucker to sleep in the first round from a body shot a la castillo, amen TO THAT :happy
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peter5
07-28-2007, 04:57 PM
true, it would be, as floyd usually fights in a negative fashion, but i hea what your saying, my patriotism is getting the better of me i must admit, but we have to stick up for our lads!
SkillsSoSmooth
07-28-2007, 05:30 PM
You brought up castillo you twat, you said Gayweather had already beaten him twice, so check your own shit out before preaching it!
Hey DICKHEAD you were the one who claimed "Hatton beat a man Floyd had problems with i.e CASTILLO" so stop contradicting yourself you muppet. :lol:
Toopretty
07-28-2007, 05:35 PM
All I got to say is the philly shell slip and slide counter right hand uppercut..cross body shots..I mean floyd will fight Hatton close in the philly shell and Hatton wont be able to land any left hook to the body and if he throws it he will eat right hands all night..if he tries to pound with the right hand..he will hit elbows arms and shoulders and still eat clean right hands...30% if floyd gets the flu fight night..otherwise 20% ...50% chance he gets stopped by his corner throwing in the towel or on cuts..bad style match up for hatton..when the philly shell appears he cant do anything with his short reach and his mauling style wont mean squat b/c he cant land any of his best punches. This is by in no means saying hatton is a bum or not a good/great fighter..if you cant move and you cant fight backing up...hatton would probably whoop your ass..but floyd is just all wrong for him.
dwilson
07-28-2007, 05:38 PM
It all depends on how fast Mayweather can get away. I could be a great fight. Mayweather showed little against a plodding GOLDEN BOY so someone who can keep on him for 12rounds with a good punch and good footwork could make life very difficult. I still have Mayweather a clear winner but only 70/40. Hatton is very underated but not as good as Mayweather while Mayweather is very overated but still way better than all the opposition out there.
Let's just hope it happens and they dont go on to fighting bums like Boldomir and Collazo or shot guys like De La Hoya and Castillo.
peter5
07-28-2007, 05:43 PM
Hey DICKHEAD you were the one who claimed "Hatton beat a man Floyd had problems with i.e CASTILLO" so stop contradcting yourself you muppet. :lol:
i was referring to you saying that mayweather beat castillo Twice! so fuck you you inbred fuckwit, get maywethers balls out your eyes, then maybe you can see what your on about you prick!:blurp
SkillsSoSmooth
07-28-2007, 05:50 PM
oscar didn't try the same thing....did you see the fight he tried to jab and box his way to the victory and didn't look half bad for most of the fight. But in the end he got pick apart and slowed down. Yes at some points when they were both on the ropes he tried to push floyd around and flurry to the body, but thats just smart fighting to give the judgest something to think about. That wasn't what DLH was trying to win the fight on.
DLH is not a pressure fight. Its not his game and believe me ricky is much better at fighting that way then DLh.
Whether or not he is able to properly pressure PBF is another matter. But I wouldn't rate floyds ability to handle pressure based on the DLH fight because thats just not what happened.
If you want to see Floyd under pressure see the two castillo fights and the chavez fight.
What about the FACT that Oscar was the bigger man coming at Floyd?, does that not mean anything?, Hatton is the SMALLER man and Floyd has the BIGGER reach and is TALLER than him, Fatton's gonna have hell trying to get inside :lol: , he may have been able to "pressure" other fighters and some idiots seem to think that Floyd will just stand there!!, what they are not thinking about is how on earth is Fatton gonna stop himself from getting counter punched all night?, that's the biggest question of this fight.
SkillsSoSmooth
07-28-2007, 05:55 PM
i was referring to you saying that mayweather beat castillo Twice! so fuck you you inbred fuckwit, get maywethers balls out your eyes, then maybe you can see what your on about you prick!:blurp
Lol i can hear you moaning Fatton's name from here!!, "oh Ricky go faster..you know i like it rough" :lol: , You're simply another lard ass Fatton groupie who doesn't know shit about boxing!!. most Fatton fans are football yobs!! .. you smelly piece of cow dung, :rofl
Pimp C
07-28-2007, 07:11 PM
Lol i can her you moaning Fatton name from here!!, "oh Ricky go faster..you know i like it rough" :lol: , You're simply another lard ass Fatton groupie who doesn't know shit about boxing!!. most Fatton fans are football yobs!! .. you smelly piece of cow dung, :rofl
:lol:
Pimp C
07-28-2007, 07:12 PM
What about the FACT that Oscar was the bigger man coming at Floyd?, does that not mean anything?, Hatton is the SMALLER man and Floyd has the BIGGER reach and is TALLER than him, Fatton's gonna have hell trying to get inside :lol: , he may have been able to "pressure" other fighters and some idiots seem to think that Floyd will just stand there!!, what they are not thinking about is how on earth is Fatton gonna stop himself from getting counter punched all night?, that's the biggest question of this fight.
I agree. They nor Hatton will have an answer for it.
El Bombasto
07-28-2007, 07:27 PM
What weight are they fighting at?
El Bombasto
07-28-2007, 07:38 PM
Dan Rafael says it will be at 147.
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(The story is also one of the top stories on ESPN.com, obviously due to Mayweather.)
In that case 30%
Jose FM
07-28-2007, 07:46 PM
Chances? Slim and none.:deal
That what you said of DLH, and got a SD.
Jose FM
07-28-2007, 07:47 PM
i give him a 50% chance.
He's got a very real shot. Floyd should win though, due to his superior boxing skills.
I'll say 30%.
Pimp C
07-28-2007, 08:01 PM
That what you said of DLH, and got a SD.
Yeah and you said Oscar would beat PBF. So who was closer?:hi:
Pimp C
07-28-2007, 08:02 PM
i give him a 50% chance.
You'll give anyone a 50% chance or better to beat PBF and you'll continue to be wrong and I'll be right here to remind you of it.:hi:
paulfv
07-28-2007, 08:13 PM
I hope Hatton wins, but I don't think he will. Particularly at 147.
jonesjrp4p1
07-28-2007, 08:16 PM
where is the 1% answer cause i would of picked that
audio101
07-28-2007, 08:43 PM
How about 0%. Hatton will have to resort to fighting dirty to have any chance at winning.
samita
07-29-2007, 01:25 AM
Now everyones talking of Hatton KO'ing Floyd, but what if Floyd KO's Hatton? What would you have to say if that happened?
i already said that i couldn't find an option for 0.000000000000000000001%, so i'm pretty much covered :D
seriously though, if we have learned anything from floyd's last fights, it would be that he can run for the entire 12 rounds. add to that how elusive and great his defense is and you'll see that ricky's chances of winning are non-existent IMO.
plus, floyd these days goes to fight to win on points. you can see that from the way he handles his opponents from the starting bell. he's not there to KO or put a hurting on his opponent, he's pretty satisfied with soft counter punches, anything that would guarantee him another W on his record (and to protect his "undefeatedness" that he's very proud of). he's not gonna make nonsense like making the fight exciting or KOing the guy in front of him fuck up his record. I bet if you put pbf at this point of his career against a flyweight that he'd still be running around like the ballerina he is.
but that wouldn't stop me fom dreaming of floyd crumbling from a deadly body punch. how satisfying would that be for all the pbf haters :D
hey, that might help floyd grow some balls and stop running since his 0 is history
Toopretty
07-29-2007, 01:35 AM
put it like this..we will see who knows there boxing..the same ingrates were saying ODH was going to knock floyd out..floyd would get schooled but in fact ODH got schooled and got outboxed and had to resort to being a slugger. Floyd is going to beat hatton convincingly and his corner is going to throw in the towel as they are a scared bunch. Bad style match up I will be here on Dec 10 to say the same.
peter5
07-29-2007, 01:59 AM
Lol i can hear you moaning Fatton's name from here!!, "oh Ricky go faster..you know i like it rough" :lol: , You're simply another lard ass Fatton groupie who doesn't know shit about boxing!!. most Fatton fans are football yobs!! .. you smelly piece of cow dung, :rofl
Well in that case you must still have floyds cock in your mouth, and most floys fans are arrogant fuckwits like the shit mouth himself!:lol:
Farmboxer
07-29-2007, 02:33 AM
At 140 I would pick Hatton, but in Vegas at 147 the cards are already filled out. I would never allow Hatton to fight in Vegas.
bigtime9
07-29-2007, 03:00 AM
At 140 I would pick Hatton,]
sure you would:rofl
mayweather has all the advantages in this fight.
what hatton really nbeeds is a good training camp and his old stamina back to be competitive.
if hatton can go 12 like the duracell bunny that he used to be i can see him causing mayweather no end of problems.
on the other hand if hatton bulks up as he did for collazo, he is a sitting duck.
there are things i see with mayweather that hatton can exploit , although this to some extent relies on mayweather coming to fight and put on a show rather than get on his bike and peck and move.
mayweather adopts this stratergy he will win on points.
hatton has to get to the inside obviously and will be caught many times as he tries , but if he grits his teeth and walks through mayweather he will get some success.
mayweather has the habit of leaning to his right , chin tucked down to avoid the right cross, but i never see him reverse it much to the other side , which should play into hatton`s left hook to body and head and IMO i do see hatton having more success than say dlh with this shot.
hatton also has one hell of a leaping pole of a jab , albeit this can be offset by lateral movement.
hattons quick hands/constant pressure if he can sustain it and his overall mauling, banging style is tyhe best style suited to beat mayweather , but at welterweight i think floyd is way more comfertable than hatton and pick mayweather to win on points but hatton to have his rounds and moments.
if hatton really does have his old stamina back, he could make it even closer albeit still losing.
mayweaher is just to good in defense and punch picking to lose though IMO
Sister Sledge
07-29-2007, 04:38 AM
I think Hatton is doing this fight for the money. He has nothing to lose. He can keep his title at 140 and defend it if he doesn't win. If he loses, everyone will bash PBF for fighting the smaller guy, even though people forget that Floyd started fighting at 130. It's a good business move on Hatton's part.
bill poster
07-29-2007, 12:30 PM
Hatton is in way over his head.
PBF's advantages: bigger, taller, faster, longer reach, more accurate, quicker handspeed, better footwork, better defensively, better jab, better combinations, better timing and generalship, better conditioning and training, has fought the better competition, has never been seriously hurt by anyone or even caught flush by anyone.
Hatton's advantages: Strength (although PBF is the bigger guy), and... uhm... hugging.. and uhh.. <crickets>
And we're supposed to think Hatton has a 50% shot to win this? Riiiiiiight :yep
Just what was said about Nigel Benn against Barkley and the guy he put in hospital
Bummy Davis
07-29-2007, 12:32 PM
It s going to be a tough fight for Floyd,Hatton has to fight him like he did KostaTszu
bill poster
07-29-2007, 12:50 PM
Hattons conditioning will be top notch - he now employs one of the best dietitions in the UK..and I'm glad the fight has come now- Hatton has not had a layoff while Floyd has only fought once in how long? It will show on the night trust me
kg0208
07-29-2007, 01:06 PM
All you PBF nuthuggers need to show a bit more respect, Hatton is gonna bring a whole lot of hurt down on floyd the shit talking twat, Ive never wanted a man to be hurt so much as I want hatton to hurt floyd! its a hard job, but hatton has the desire and tenacity to do it!
You can't post this and then say "show more respect"
kg0208
07-29-2007, 01:08 PM
Hattons conditioning will be top notch - he now employs one of the best dietitions in the UK..and I'm glad the fight has come now- Hatton has not had a layoff while Floyd has only fought once in how long? It will show on the night trust me
PBF is always in top condition as well, I doubt that will play a factor...both come in in tip top shape. 3 months since PBF fought, same layoff as usual. Hatton only fought a month and a 1/2 after PBF.
SUNOF7
07-29-2007, 01:37 PM
Whoever talks of layoffs need to get some boxing knowledge. PBF just went 12 rounds with DLH... it is about rounds. He will be going into the fight with more rounds than Hatton actually. Layoff means nothing.. from a superfight in may to another one in December after going 12 rounds with a hall of famer.. Hatton is going to get embarrassed.
Slothrop
07-31-2007, 02:34 PM
:bump
josak
07-31-2007, 04:30 PM
I'd say this is about 50/50. Hatton's got the style to give Mayweather trouble.
Slothrop
10-31-2007, 09:24 PM
:bump
radianttwilight
10-31-2007, 10:42 PM
The X factor in this fight is what Mayweather does when he's been hurt - his lack of experience here could come back to haunt him. Is this the best time for Mayweather's first gut check in the ring, the "Hitman" Hatton bearing down on his liver?
Hatton WILL hurt him at least once during this fight, and Hatton is a great finisher. This will be closer than everyone thinks.
Florida boy
10-31-2007, 10:49 PM
People mention, Castillo, look at the second fight between the two, Mayweather easily outboxed him for a wide decision. Mayweather doesnt do just enough to win, he dominates solid boxers. i figure Hattons only chance is a KO, but hes not really a puncher, more of a grinder, and i doubt he'll land enough to break Floyd, but should be a good fight non the less.
Florida boy
10-31-2007, 10:51 PM
The X factor in this fight is what Mayweather does when he's been hurt - his lack of experience here could come back to haunt him. Is this the best time for Mayweather's first gut check in the ring, the "Hitman" Hatton bearing down on his liver?
Hatton WILL hurt him at least once during this fight, and Hatton is a great finisher. This will be closer than everyone thinks.
Chop Chop rocked Mayweather, and he shook it off. Corleys not a great finisher will probably be the reply, but im just saying, ive seen him hurt once, and he shook it off. And the only time hes been down EVER was when he hurt his hand.
ripcity
10-31-2007, 10:56 PM
I voted 40%. It is not something that I expect to happen but it is not imposible eather.
bigtime9
10-31-2007, 11:48 PM
The X factor in this fight is what Mayweather does when he's been hurt - his lack of experience here could come back to haunt him. Is this the best time for Mayweather's first gut check in the ring, the "Hitman" Hatton bearing down on his liver?
what makes you think that hatton has what it takes to hurt floyd. hatton is not fighting ben tackie:deal
Silverfox
10-31-2007, 11:52 PM
I think the ref will be a determining factor in this fight. If he allows them to fight out of a clinch and doesn't separate them every 10 seconds....then we will have a good battle.
I'd like to see Hatton hurt PBF to the extent that it wakes him up and then we may see PBF at his fighting best. PBF has become a boring boxer to watch, while Hatton is exciting, because you know he will give of his best.
Either way, it will certainly be watched by many millions and will give both a decent payday.
Personally, I'd love to see Hatton give him a hiding. He needs one! But, if PBF comes into the ring and fights like he fought Gatti....then Hatton is in trouble!
Regardless of the fact that Gatti was over the hill, or that DLH was as well!
booradley
11-01-2007, 12:12 AM
IMO PBF only responded to Hatton's trash talking because fighting Hatton allows him to avoid both Cotto and Mosely; remember, Cotto -Mosely hadn't been made yet. Once again mayweather takes on the weaker fighter instead of fighting the best. I hope Ricky Hatton tears Floyd's fucking head off, but I don't think he will. My heart is with Ricky Hatton, but reality says he only has a punchers chance, about 20%
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