TFFP Vs Onourway

[onourway]

TFFP thinks he's the oracle of boxing.

I don't know much.

So me and TFFP will go head to head in predictions.

Any fights he wishes to name, we'll predict and see who's the winner at the end....

[Benjiabc]

is there really any need for this?

[FLINT ISLAND]

this is a clash of ego

[onourway]

is there really any need for this?

No, not really.

But it doesn't do any harm.

[FLINT ISLAND]

where is TFFP to answer this challenge?

I wonder what he will say?

[Benjiabc]

it should be a good laugh never the less, and yes battle of the ego as was earlier said

[TFFP]

onourgay you useless turd, you'll just copy all my picks.

My record speaks for itself in prediction leagues, which means I know styles. It doesn't mean I know more than guys that are historians, in these areas I'm lacking so i can't consider myself an oracle

Stick to building Hatton shrines.

[Ilesey]

onourgay you useless turd, you'll just copy all my picks.

My record speaks for itself in prediction leagues, which means I know styles. It doesn't mean I know more than guys that are historians, in these areas I'm lacking so i can't consider myself an oracle

Stick to building Hatton shrines.

:rofl

[TFFP]

That said, I will humour you and answer this challenge for the fun of it

You pick the fights - You are going down bitch

[Benjiabc]

onourgay you useless turd, you'll just copy all my picks.

My record speaks for itself in prediction leagues, which means I know styles. It doesn't mean I know more than guys that are historians, in these areas I'm lacking so i can't consider myself an oracle

Stick to building Hatton shrines.


well to solve your problem mate, why dont you make the rules so that onourway has to pick his fighters first everytime, as long as on our way doesnt mind?

[TFFP]

well to solve your problem mate, why dont you make the rules so that onourway has to pick his fighters first everytime, as long as on our way doesnt mind?
We will make alternating picks to make it fair. There is no danger of me copying onourgay as I would consider our Guinea Pig George to have comparable knowledge

It would be a lot easier if he just joined the Brit prediction league started by smith

[onourway]

I'm not picking first everytime, I think this sunshine deprived bollock might copy all my predictions as well.

We'll take it in turns.

TFFP can choose the first fight and I'll predict first.....vica versa.

[Benjiabc]

:lol: :smoke

[FLINT ISLAND]

:lol:

:hi:

[TFFP]

I can't honestly believe this muthafucker has the audacity to call me out. He ain't on my level man.

[FLINT ISLAND]

onourway V TFFP.......The Main Event OF The Forum......for the vacant title of who is the best in fight predictions

[Benjiabc]

I can't honestly believe this muthafucker has the audacity to call me out. He ain't on my level man.


:rofl god i love this

[onourway]

I'm next level.

And I'll have the benefit of fresh air to think about my predictions. All whilst you sit in your mother's piss stained basement hammering away at your laptop/cock.

[TFFP]

onourway V TFFP.......The Main Event OF The Forum......for the vacant title of who is the best in fight predictions
I wouldn't put this shit on PPV out of embarrasment. It's a mismatch. If it does it will only be because onourgay has read his heros guide to fleecing the fans

It's more like a gimme defence for me

If I was up against a solid fight predictor such as smith it would be interesting

[onourway]

And if anybody wants to be a middle man who picks the fights/takes our predictions via PM, then do it.

If not, we'll sort it between us.

[Benjiabc]

i would happily be a middle man, its entirely a choice between the two of you, but the offer is there

[onourway]

I'm happy for you to do it.

Just depends whether Howard Hughes is as well.

[Fat Joe]

If not, we'll sort it between us.

Mano a Mano

[ghostlybadge]

my cash is on TFFP as he has the the avatar of one of my fav fighters of all time and learning about him got me into boxing to start with

[Benjiabc]

my cash is on TFFP as he has the the avatar of one of my fav fighters of all time and learning about him got me into boxing to start with

excuse my ignorance, but who is it in his picture?

[JonOli]

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[Ilesey]

Tis the ghost with a hammer in his hands. Jimmy Wilde.

[Benjiabc]

jimmy wilde

[Benjiabc]

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realised after this picture lol

[dwilson]

Both are gay.






















Not in an homosexual way though.

























Not that I have any problem in that.

[TFFP]

I am definitely not gay. That shit repulses me.

[dwilson]

I am definitely not gay. That shit repulses me.








:bart

[The Kurgan]

Ís-land! Ís-land! Ís-land!

[TFFP]

Ís-land! Ís-land! Ís-land!
The syllables are perfect too!

Where you from?

:smoke

[Max Molyneux]

TFFP would never lose to a (nuthugger)Hatton fan.

[Benjiabc]

only one way to find out.... so lets set some rules, first of all do you want a middle man or not?

[onourway]

Yes, it's the best way.

[Benjiabc]

TFFP do you want me to be a middle man? if so you two will have to come up with some sort of rules etc, like how often fights will be picked and how many etc

[Claypole]

onourway V TFFP.......The Main Event OF The Forum......for the vacant title of who is the best in fight predictionsCalm yourself Flint. It's not for any forum title, it's only to see who is the best out of those two posters.

[GazOC]

excuse my ignorance, but who is it in his picture?

Thats your credibility shot to fuck.;)

[Benjiabc]

Thats your credibility shot to fuck.;)


hardly, only ever seen old videos of him in the ring, never seen a shot of him face on like that and was not sure who it was, until i seen the picture of him in full, i dont know many older boxers in full anyway to be honest, only 18?

[GazOC]

Age doesn't really come into it, Wildes been dead longer than most of us have been alive.

[Benjiabc]

well then i guess my credability is shot to fuck :good

[GazOC]

Just kidding mate..;)

[TommyV]

My money's on TFFP.

[TFFP]

My money's on TFFP. Bet the house, the farm, your girlfriend/boyfriend.

I'd like to call out SleazeNation

[JonOli]

God I can't wait till the boxing picks up again.

[FLINT ISLAND]

there is no love lost here at the pre fight posting conference

its not just done for viewers on the computer screen

these two

TFFP

and

OnOurWay

have a real dislike for each other

the verbal insults are not just hype

its a clash of enemies

there is alot of pride at stake

will it live up to the hype????????

[JonOli]

Will TFFP delare himself a legend killer...

[GazOC]

God I can't wait till the boxing picks up again.

:lol: Imagine what it would have been like without the Olympics.;)

[FLINT ISLAND]

Will TFFP delare himself a legend killer...

depends

is

onourway a legend

or will

onourway be a legend killer?

[TFFP]

Will TFFP delare himself a legend killer... No. This is a gimme for me. As Mayorga would say, "this will be a 4 round right - like the amateurs"

It will be obvious after 4 fights I'm the superior boxing brain.

[TommyV]

Bet the house, the farm, your girlfriend/boyfriend.

I'd like to call out SleazeNation

Farm? Boyfriend?

Geez you didn't have to be so harsh. :-(

[TFFP]

Farm? Boyfriend?

Geez you didn't have to be so harsh. :-(
You could have had a farm or been gay, its wrong to assume :|

I didn't look at your location. I don't know how many farms are in London. But there are many homos.

[GazOC]

Lets have a one bout, winner takes all on Hatton-Pac.

[TFFP]

Lets have a one bout, winner takes all on Hatton-Pac. That's a good one actually, as onourgay won't be able to copy my prediction out of sheer pride/manlove

Pacquiao will tap that ass.

[Benjiabc]

That's a good one actually, as onourgay won't be able to copy my prediction out of sheer pride/manlove

Pacquiao will tap that ass.

sorry TFFP, i would of backed you to win over onourway, but hatton would beat pac at 140 IMO

[TFFP]

sorry TFFP, i would of backed you to win over onourway, but hatton would beat pac at 140 IMO
It's ok man. I respect your decision to side with onourgay. Just don't let him lead you astray, if ya know what I mean.

[GazOC]

That's a good one actually, as onourgay won't be able to copy my prediction out of sheer pride/manlove

Pacquiao will tap that ass.

Hatton will KO Pac and you'll say he just beat a blown up Flyweight. This is one way of you having to nail your colours to the mast and having to give Hatton his props when he wins.:good

[onourway]

That's a good one actually, as onourgay won't be able to copy my prediction out of sheer pride/manlove

Pacquiao will tap that ass.

I would never want to copy you, I enjoy sunlight and my sex life not revolving around Joe Calzaghe posters.

Can we pick a fight that is actually set in stone...

[TFFP]

Hatton will KO Pac and you'll say he just beat a blown up Flyweight. This is one way of you having to nail your colours to the mast and having to give Hatton his props when he wins.:good
:lol:

Nahhhhh, I'm not a big one for weights. A great fighter is a great fighter, at any weight (barring something ridiculous) as the man in my avatar showed, and as Pacquiao has shown. The fact Hatton can't fight for shit above his "ideal weight" shows he ain't great!

[GazOC]

sorry TFFP, i would of backed you to win over onourway, but hatton would beat pac at 140 IMO

He's fell right into my trap!!:lol:;)

<twiddles his mustache>:blood

[TFFP]

He's fell right into my trap!!:lol:;)

<twiddles his mustache>:blood
You want to see me lose? :|:-(

Can't believe this. Honestly.

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[GazOC]

:lol:

Nahhhhh, I'm not a big one for weights. A great fighter is a great fighter, at any weight (barring something ridiculous) as the man in my avatar showed, and as Pacquiao has shown. The fact Hatton can't fight for shit above his "ideal weight" shows he ain't great!

Jose Napoles, for one, will be gutted.

[TFFP]

Jose Napoles, for one, will be gutted.
Will he? :?

[GazOC]

You want to see me lose? :|:-(

Can't believe this. Honestly.

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Not 'want', but Hatton will beat Pac and so Onourway will beat you.

[TFFP]

Not 'want', but Hatton will beat Pac and so Onourway will beat you.
Yeah, but you will all have to accept that me (and probably Betty) are boxing oracles if we are proven correct.

[GazOC]

Will he? :?
Great welter, lost in his only fight at middle. Therefore a shit fighter like Hatton?;)

And no, I don't think Hatton is up there with Napoles but if you dominate a division for a number of years then thats good enough for me.

[GazOC]

Yeah, but you will all have to accept that me (and probably Betty) are boxing oracles if we are proven correct.

Nah, Betty had Zoo to beat Hatton. He'd still only be 1-1.

[onourway]

Betty also ranked Rees above Hatton at LWW which makes his opinion on anything null and void.

[TFFP]

Great welter, lost in his only fight at middle. Therefore a shit fight?;)

And no, I don't think Hatton is up there with Napoles but if you dominate a division for a number of years then thats good enough for me.
It is good enough in itself, if your resume is great at that weight. I don't rule people out just because they fought in one division, infact I'm an advocate of clearing out your own weight before cherrypicking guys in the next, a la Mayweather

By the way, Napoles was a half decent 140lb fighter before doing damage at welterweight. And it was fecking Monzon at middleweight :lol:

[GazOC]

It was fecking Mayweather at welter.

[TFFP]

It was fecking Mayweather at welter.
He was shite against Collazo too and lucky to get it. I doubt a true great like Napoles would be going life and death against a Collazo because he put on a few lbs.

I know you are going to say "he got the W" or something to that end, but performance matters too

[Benjiabc]

yea hatton was poor agaisnt collazo, but for me i thought he was brilliant against zoo and thats when i really became a fan,since that fight, he hasnt really performed

[GazOC]

All that matters in my book (and not just with Hatton) is dominating a division.

[TFFP]

All that matters in my book (and not just with Hatton) is dominating a division.
And who you actually dominate of course. I'm happy enough with that, I don't care if a guy stays in a division if the competition is there.

[GazOC]

Aye, its a poor division but Hatton doesn't have the physical qualities to beat these big Welters. He's been the man for 3 years at 140 and has had a very good but not great career, it seems thats not enough for some people...;O)

[TFFP]

Aye, its a poor division but Hatton doesn't have the physical qualities to beat these big Welters. He's been the man for 3 years at 140 and has had a very good but not great career, it seems thats not enough for some people...;O)
Very good but not great.

I don't think anybody could say Hatton is a great and keep a straight face, Sleaze or onourgay aside.

[FLINT ISLAND]

Aye, its a poor division but Hatton doesn't have the physical qualities to beat these big Welters. He's been the man for 3 years at 140 and has had a very good but not great career, it seems thats not enough for some people...;O)

Hatton got found out against Mayweather

all that bollocks about

"he is going to be embarrassed by losing to a fat kid from England"

all said for effect and to sell the fight

that was all about just netting a career high monster payday

Hatton lives a crap lifestlye - of Beer, Kebabs, Burgers, Chips, Choclate, ICE CREAM

and his training camp was almost a desperate detox to try and drive himself in shape

while Mayweather was more a true athlete

and lets remeber Hatton got knocked out flat on his back

he was exposed there as a lacking fighter at the elite level

[GazOC]

TBH I've never seen anyone on here call Hatton 'a great', I've seen haters accuse people of calling Hatton 'a great' but not it actually happening.

[TFFP]

TBH I've never seen anyone on here call Hatton 'a great', I've seen haters accuse people of calling Hatton 'a great' but not it actually happening.
Ask onourgay.

Am I a hater - is that what you are inferring? :huh

[GazOC]

Hatton got found out against Mayweather

all that bollocks about

"he is going to be embarrassed by losing to a fat kid from England"

all said for effect and to sell the fight

that was all about just netting a career high monster payday

Hatton lives a crap lifestlye - of Beer, Kebabs, Burgers, Chips, Choclate, ICE CREAM

and his training camp was almost a desperate detox to try and drive himself in shape

while Mayweather was more a true athlete

and lets remeber Hatton got knocked out flat on his back

he was exposed there as a lacking fighter at the elite level

WTF is 'elite'? I assume its one up from 'world class' which is where Hatton has been for the last 4 years. Is that not good enough?:roll:

As soon as I see 'elite', 'skillset' or 'resume' in a post I know someones trying to hate on a boxer, they are bullshit terms.

[GazOC]

Ask onourgay.

Am I a hater - is that what you are inferring? :huh
Yep, you're a hater. You're not consistant, you give JC a damn sight more leeway with his career.

[FLINT ISLAND]

WTF is 'elite'? I assume its one up from 'world class' which is where Hatton has been for the last 4 years. Is that not good enough?:roll:

As soon as I see 'elite', 'skillset' or 'resume' in a post I know someones trying to hate on a boxer, they are bullshit terms.

elite - I suppose above aversge world class

he was fighting the worlds elite fighter - pound for pound king

trying to Hate on Hatton?

of course he is a cunt

nothing new there

:lol:

[TFFP]

Yep, you're a hater. You're not consistant, you give JC a damn sigh more leeway with his career.
Nah, I'm trying to keep a balance. I have to "hate" to keep these huggers in check who act like he's a really great British boxer, and should be applauded for all these huge fights he made

You'll find after Pacquiao beats him, and all these guys chuck him in the trash I'll be here saying "Hatton wasn't that bad you know" :yep

[GazOC]

elite - I suppose above aversge world class

he was fighting the worlds elite fighter - pound for pound king

trying to Hate on Hatton?

of course he is a cunt

nothing new there

:lol:
'Above average world class', WTF is that???:patsch


If you think he's a cunt, then fair enough but he's had a very good career for a Brit boxer. Your (attempted) definition of 'elite' just shows what a crock of shit the term it is.

[TFFP]

'Above average world class', WTF is that???:patsch


If you think he's a cunt, then fair enough but he's had a very good career for a Brit boxer but your definition of 'elite' just shows what a crock of shit the term it is.
Elite I'll give you

Skillset can be wishy washy unless people actually expand on the components of a skillset

What's wrong with resume though? It's just a simplified term to sum up a guys career record/competition isn't it? It's a lot easier than typing out all the guys people fought and having to remember their records.

[onourway]

Nothing wrong with the word resume.

Like 'Joe Calzaghe has a shit resume' is an accurate and to the point sentence without having to go in to too much detail.

[GazOC]

I'll give you 'resume' then. 'Elite' and 'skillset' are the two that really get me...;O)

[JonOli]

If Hatton had got Ko'ed in round 1 by Mayweather I'd still give him more credit and respect for taking a top draw fight then some.

[TFFP]

If Hatton had got Ko'ed in round 1 by Mayweather I'd still give him more credit and respect for taking a top draw fight then that other Lilly livered self proclaimed legend killing parody of himself. If you got credit for getting your ass whooped by greats there would be journeymen out there eligible as the greatest of all-time.

[TommyV]

GazOC - There are a lot of good fighters that are defined as 'world class' because they are competitive and perform well on the world stage, in title fights, against the top guys in their division.

'Elite' guys are those guys that take it a step further. For me their are only a handful of 'elite' fighters around, although I would define a fair few fighter's as world class.

To give you an example, I would define Joshua Clottey as a 'world class' fighter, he's a guy who can beat some of the top guys around him in his division, and be competitive with pretty much anyone. Whereas a guy like Mayweather is what I would class as 'elite', he takes it that extra step further in that he can beat anyone in his division, in what he's achieved and in the fact that despite Clottey being a very good fighter - a world class fighter even - Mayweather is still a level above.

[JonOli]

If you got credit for getting your ass whooped by greats there would be journeymen out there eligible as the greatest of all-time.

I look at it like a sportsman failing a drugs test. If you miss/don't take a drugs test/fight its equivalent to a fail testing positive/loss in the worst manner.

[GazOC]

If Hatton had got Ko'ed in round 1 by Mayweather I'd still give him more credit and respect for taking a top draw fight then some.

Exactly. He took the fight and came up short. It was a shot for nothing for him and it didn't pay off. He's still a world class 140lber and has been for 4 years, what a shit career.;)

[TFFP]

GazOC - There are a lot of good fighters that are defined as 'world class' because they are competitive and perform well on the world stage, in title fights, against the top guys in their division.

'Elite' guys are those guys that take it a step further. For me their are only a handful of 'elite' fighters around, although I would define a fair few fighter's as world class.

To give you an example, I would define Joshua Clottey as a 'world class' fighter, he's a guy who can beat some of the top guys around him in his division, and be competitive with pretty much anyone. Whereas a guy like Mayweather is what I would class as 'elite', he takes it that extra step further in that he can beat anyone in his division, in what he's achieved and in the fact that despite Clottey being a very good fighter - a world class fighter even - Mayweather is still a level above. I think you kind of illustrated his point though. It's a very subjective term that is different to each individual, so it causes some confusion.

World class is far more easily defined, since it is a guy that can be competitive at world title level.

[GazOC]

GazOC - There are a lot of good fighters that are defined as 'world class' because they are competitive and perform well on the world stage, in title fights, against the top guys in their division.

'Elite' guys are those guys that take it a step further. For me their are only a handful of 'elite' fighters around, although I would define a fair few fighter's as world class.

To give you an example, I would define Joshua Clottey as a 'world class' fighter, he's a guy who can beat some of the top guys around him in his division, and be competitive with pretty much anyone. Whereas a guy like Mayweather is what I would class as 'elite', he takes it that extra step further in that he can beat anyone in his division, in what he's achieved and in the fact that despite Clottey being a very good fighter - a world class fighter even - Mayweather is still a level above.

"Elite" is a term used when somebody wants to denigrate a boxer for being merely 'world class'. Do people really understand what it takes to be a world class boxer for 4 years?

A being called 'world class' boxer used to mean something, now it just means you're not 'elite'. :roll:

[TommyV]

I think you kind of illustrated his point though. It's a very subjective term that is different to each individual, so it causes some confusion.

World class is far more easily defined, since it is a guy that can be competitive at world title level.

I understand your point. But then again the term 'world class' in itself is pretty subjective. A lot of people will reserve that for the very best fighters, not just those competitive at world level, even though that makes the most sense.

[TFFP]

"Is Ricky Hatton elite" would make a good topic, I dare say

[JonOli]

"Is Ricky Hatton elite" would make a good topic, I dare say

I can't think of many boxers I's class as truly elite - Roy Jones in his pomp...

[TFFP]

I can't think of many boxers I's class as truly elite - Roy Jones in his pomp... Well that would be like 10 fighters in history then ;)

Pretty tough definition.

[JonOli]

Well that would be like 10 fighters in history then ;)

Pretty tough definition.

It is pretty strict lol, every boxer, and their dog now appears to be "elite" or a "total legend".

[TommyV]

I have come to the conclusion you have nothing to worry about TFFP. He's just posted a topic in the general forum talking about how quality of wins should rank over undefeated records.

Talk about stating the fucking obvious.

[GazOC]

If they are betting on Hatton-Pac then TFFP is on the losing side.:yep

[JonOli]

Hatton V Pac is ages away. This will be a longer induction then Hayes excursion into the heavyweights.

[The Kurgan]

The syllables are perfect too!

Where you from?

:smoke

I was born in England and raised in Scotland, but I have Russian and Icelandic ancestral relatives. My grandmother would never forgive my parents if they didn't raise kids with a basic grasp of Icelandic words and culture. Bizzarely, the only non-English languages I speak are French and Gaelic, but I plan to speak Icelandic some day. I might attempt Russian in the distant future, but only if they Romanize their alphabet like sensible people.

At my best I have the passion of a Russian, the prudence of a Scot and the nobility of an Icelander. At my worst, I have the passion of an Icelander, the prudence of a Russian and the nobility of a Scot!

[FLINT ISLAND]

'Above average world class', WTF is that???:patsch


If you think he's a cunt, then fair enough but he's had a very good career for a Brit boxer. Your (attempted) definition of 'elite' just shows what a crock of shit the term it is.

I stand by what I say because at least in my own head I know what I mean.

"Above average world class" - it means a fighter like Roy Jones and Floyd Mayweather can make a "world class" fighter like Clinton Woods and Diego Corrales look like very "average" fighters even though they are ranked as "world class" as in one of the best 10 or 20 fighters in the world. - in the case of Corrales he was NO 2 in the world and Mayweather totally outclassed him and knocked him down about 5 times.

Jones and Mayweather can do this because they are "above average world class" and "elite" top pound for pound fighters in the world.

I mean Jones had a habit of doing it he made world class fighters look very ordinary and "average" - even guys like Tony Thorton are on the fringes of world class and Jones just had a public sparring session with him for a couple of rounds then knocked him out in the 3rd.

I suppose if you wanted a clear standard of what "elite" is instead of some wishy washy idea of what it is - something like the top ten pound for pound fighters in the world could be considered "elite"

Hatton was NO 1 at Light Welterweight but still falls short of this "elite" level

Hatton has had a very good career - no arguments there.

Made alot of money - wan a few world titles - best light welterweight in the world at his prime - he has done well.

beat "world class" fighters

but when he fought the "elite" fighter in the world he got knocked out.

[ghostlybadge]

TFFP you post way to much at one stage a few months back you only had a few more posts than me then i go away for 4 months and you have racked up another 8000 posts

[Fat Joe]

If Hatton had got Ko'ed in round 1 by Mayweather I'd still give him more credit and respect for taking a top draw fight then some.

JonOli when BHOP floored Calzaghe in the 1st.

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[FLINT ISLAND]

JonOli when BHOP floored Calzaghe in the 1st.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[Betty Swollocks]

haven't had the chance to read the thread yet but I will say that TFFP is one of the best posters around, ouourway is a clown. Opposite ends of the spectrum.

[GazOC]

haven't had the chance to read the thread yet but I will say that TFFP is one of the best posters around, ouourway is a clown. Opposite ends of the spectrum.

An opinion based entirely on how they view Hatton.