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tays001
07-28-2007, 06:56 PM
i was thinking the IBOF standards are not that great for inductee i was thinking since ESB has the best Forum with some of the most Knowledgable fans around. we should start an ESB HOF for the fighters that truely deserve it based on there credentials that way we can truely show them how far apart they are from the pack they are.:good

how about it what you guy's think?

tays001
07-28-2007, 07:08 PM
No Body Got An Opinion

tays001
07-28-2007, 07:09 PM
I Mean We REALLY NEED THIS For That Alone. Unless We Already Do . If We Do Get One I Think Criteria Should Be Very Strick No Gatii Or Vargas

OR GREAT TV FIGHTERS THAT HAVE NO TALENT SOR COULD OF BEENS

brooklyn1550
07-28-2007, 07:10 PM
not a bad idea

King Dan
07-28-2007, 07:12 PM
I love this idea!

My first Inductee......obviously Chava Sanchez!!!

TAM83
07-28-2007, 07:14 PM
Go for it, sounds good to me

moses
07-28-2007, 07:15 PM
Not a bad idea. However, how would we nominate inductees? Everybody has got a favourite, and the posters on here are certainly not always without bias. Which criteria should we use?

tays001
07-28-2007, 07:18 PM
well let start with this the fighter has to have been retired at least 5 years

tays001
07-28-2007, 07:19 PM
we can't induct every fighter that has ever one a belt cuz we no that would be tainted

TAM83
07-28-2007, 07:19 PM
well let start with this the fighter has to have been retired at least 5 years

You should set a limit of inductions for a certain period of time, otherwise it'll be a free for all

cross_trainer
07-28-2007, 07:22 PM
YES!

Limits are a good idea. Additionally, I recommend an MMA sub-hall, which the MMA forum will be glad to fill.

So....how are we going to go about this? Is anyone interested in making a website or a subsection of ESB? What sort of standards will we be using? How many inductees will we limit it to the first time around?

tays001
07-28-2007, 07:23 PM
i say we get a pannel of 7 forum poster which have had to been on the forum for at least 1 year and who's oppinion respected and is able to judge a fight with out predjudice. each month one of the 7 post a thread of who should be inducted and from that thread they take the 10 most crediable boxers and post a poll then the 7 evealuate the poll and decide. if you have a better way please share or add

TAM83
07-28-2007, 07:24 PM
YES!

Limits are a good idea. Additionally, I recommend an MMA sub-hall, which the MMA forum will be glad to fill.

So....how are we going to go about this? Is anyone interested in making a website or a subsection of ESB? What sort of standards will we be using? How many inductees will we limit it to the first time around?


Start with people nominating one person from each weight division, then start a poll for the nominations.

moses
07-28-2007, 07:25 PM
when do we start? I mean, there are some obvious legends out there, but many of us on here are too young to have ever seen those fighters. Can we induct those guys just based on their legend?

tays001
07-28-2007, 07:28 PM
i say a limit of 5 per month .

tays001
07-28-2007, 07:34 PM
Start with people nominating one person from each weight division, then start a poll for the nominations.

tamm 33 thats a good suggestion

Lampley
07-28-2007, 07:55 PM
Great idea! I think you also need to be very explicit vis-a-vis admission standards.

Namely, do you account for the below:

1) Career Resume (obviously)

2) Impact (this could mean impact outside the ring, or someone who revolutionized something)

3) Popularity (this is the Gatti argument)

4) Character (i would assume not, or else a lot of greats will be excluded)


I would start with a rapid-fire system to create a foundation of guys, then maybe vote on up to five candidates once per year. Make it very formal.

But maybe your idea for five a month is a good start.

tays001
07-28-2007, 07:59 PM
for though of you who voted no why not

tays001
07-28-2007, 08:02 PM
Great idea! I think you also need to be very explicit vis-a-vis admission standards.

Namely, do you account for the below:

1) Career Resume (obviously)

2) Impact (this could mean impact outside the ring, or someone who revolutionized something)

3) Popularity (this is the Gatti argument)

4) Character (i would assume not, or else a lot of greats will be excluded)


I would start with a rapid-fire system to create a foundation of guys, then maybe vote on up to five candidates once per year. Make it very formal.

But maybe your idea for five a month is a good start.

this is very good once we get the results of this poll esb will have to nominate the peopl that will organize and vote.

sues2nd
07-28-2007, 08:05 PM
This is a fantastic idea!!!!

Im all for it!!!!

tays001
07-28-2007, 08:05 PM
please start nomanating the 7 you would like to see on the board or nominate your self so we can get this rolling

Lampley
07-28-2007, 08:06 PM
this is very good once we get the results of this poll esb will have to nominate the peopl that will organize and vote.

I'd definitely start in the Classic forum with this process. Crosstrainer obviously would be a fine addition, and there are others (although some of the knowledgeable posters are crazy) hanging around as well.

tays001
07-28-2007, 08:06 PM
great to see the support this way we have somthing no other boxing web site has

tays001
07-28-2007, 08:08 PM
I'd definitely start in the Classic forum with this process. Crosstrainer obviously would be a fine addition, and there are others (although some of the knowledgeable posters are crazy) hanging around as well.

very true we need to make sure we dont get the guy or gal thinking soda popinskie is the greatest of all time:yep

Orishaman
07-28-2007, 08:12 PM
I say potential candidates for the first wave of ESB HOF...

Radar, Lance Uppercut, Cross Trainer, Zivic, Widdow Makker, Achilles, Kirk, Orishaman, Amsterdam, & Freddy that would be my initial class of ESB HOF's...

Lampley
07-28-2007, 08:14 PM
I say potential candidates for the first wave of ESB HOF...

Radar, Lance Uppercut, Cross Trainer, Zivic, Widdow Makker, Achilles, Kirk, Orishaman, Amsterdam, & Freddy that would be my initial class of ESB HOF's...

Such a modest fellow!

tays001
07-28-2007, 08:16 PM
I say potential candidates for the first wave of ESB HOF...

Radar, Lance Uppercut, Cross Trainer, Zivic, Widdow Makker, Achilles, Kirk, Orishaman, Amsterdam, & Freddy that would be my initial class of ESB HOF's...

this is for the board that has the finale decision on who is incucted after the polls?

TAM83
07-28-2007, 08:21 PM
this is for the board that has the finale decision on who is incucted after the polls?


To be honest I reckon you have to be more public with it, if not then it's basically just seven guys making their own HOF. For it to be an ESB HOF it has to be picked by all of the members. TBH most people have a good knowledge on this site, so I'm sure it would work well.

Orishaman
07-28-2007, 08:42 PM
Such a modest fellow!

But you have to admit it is a good list of inductees

tays001
07-29-2007, 12:04 AM
this esb hof is not for poster but for boxers. but i reckon we can add a posters HOF

C Money
07-29-2007, 05:45 AM
The BHOF covers the boxers!!! If anything we should have a posters HOF and the credentials should be agreed upon by the 'majority'.

I'm all for it and while I'm not the best? I'm certainly willing to POST WITH THE BEST and may one day be so honored!!!!:D

New Wind
07-29-2007, 05:50 AM
cool idea!

tays001
07-31-2007, 11:41 PM
so are we going to get this thing started???

kg0208
07-31-2007, 11:49 PM
I agree more with a posters HOF than a boxers HOF, though I agree with both.

Posters HoF though would have to have like any other HoF a majority vote and the initial class would have to include a standard bearer. (In this case Cross Trainer)

Druid
08-01-2007, 12:16 AM
when do we start? I mean, there are some obvious legends out there, but many of us on here are too young to have ever seen those fighters. Can we induct those guys just based on their legend?

Good question and this is a good idea!

kg0208
08-01-2007, 12:24 AM
Good question and this is a good idea!

I believe that the initial class should be of fighters from over a 2 decades ago and have only the limitation that they get more than 50% of a vote. Certain guys are in without thought......SRR, Armstrong, Pep, Saddler, etc.

tays001
08-01-2007, 12:26 AM
I believe that the initial class should be of fighters from over a 2 decades ago and have only the limitation that they get more than 50% of a vote. Certain guys are in without thought......SRR, Armstrong, Pep, Saddler, etc.

very true some are in with out thought but other we will have to vote

tays001
08-17-2007, 01:20 AM
So We Going To Start This

kg0208
08-17-2007, 01:20 AM
So We Going To Start This

Which one....for the posters or for fighters?

tays001
08-17-2007, 01:21 AM
Which one....for the posters or for fighters?

FOR BOTH

Boom_Boom
08-17-2007, 01:21 AM
If ViciousBoxer77 isnt inducted then we know this thing is corrupt

tays001
08-17-2007, 01:22 AM
If ViciousBoxer77 isnt inducted then we know this thing is corrupt:rofl :rofl :rofl

sues2nd
08-17-2007, 01:23 AM
If ViciousBoxer77 isnt inducted then we know this thing is corrupt

:rofl :rofl :rofl

kg0208
08-17-2007, 01:24 AM
FOR BOTH

Go for it.

You need to figure out how we are going to decide the original class for both.

I think we should do it by weight class.

And for the posters, I think it should be done based on a thread where we ask people to add names to the ballot, then the 10 most names get voted on, then the 5 highest vote totals get in.

kg0208
08-17-2007, 02:14 AM
Thoughts?

tays001
08-17-2007, 06:45 PM
Go for it.

You need to figure out how we are going to decide the original class for both.

I think we should do it by weight class.

And for the posters, I think it should be done based on a thread where we ask people to add names to the ballot, then the 10 most names get voted on, then the 5 highest vote totals get in.

i think thats pefect you down

kg0208
08-17-2007, 09:02 PM
i think thats pefect you down

I'll help you figure it out. The problem is that things about posters tend to get moved to the lounge. Each part of this forum has different posters who post there frequently, kinda screwing with the votes for the General Forum....

tays001
08-17-2007, 11:47 PM
I'll help you figure it out. The problem is that things about posters tend to get moved to the lounge. Each part of this forum has different posters who post there frequently, kinda screwing with the votes for the General Forum....

yeah your right isn't scar a mod maybe he could ensure that it doesn't get moved:good

sues2nd
08-18-2007, 12:55 AM
I'll help you figure it out. The problem is that things about posters tend to get moved to the lounge. Each part of this forum has different posters who post there frequently, kinda screwing with the votes for the General Forum....

Normally if you ask in the original post for it not to get moved, they are pretty good at leaving it be. Remember my post about the anti-american bs....I asked and they left it be.

I am definately down for this..........................:good

tays001
08-18-2007, 01:00 AM
Normally if you ask in the original post for it not to get moved, they are pretty good at leaving it be. Remember my post about the anti-american bs....I asked and they left it be.

I am definately down for this..........................:good

coo it look s like we going to have to get started who's down to help organize this:good

tays001
06-21-2008, 12:03 AM
i was thinking the IBOF standards are not that great for inductee i was thinking since ESB has the best Forum with some of the most Knowledgable fans around. we should start an ESB HOF for the fighters that truely deserve it based on there credentials that way we can truely show them how far apart they are from the pack they are.:good

how about it what you guy's think?

and even enter some of our most respected poster .

tays001
06-21-2008, 12:05 AM
wonder if any one want to still pull this off?

sues2nd
06-21-2008, 12:40 AM
If its possible, Im sure alot of us would help out....

tays001
06-21-2008, 12:42 AM
well lets see was up try to bumps this every day im going on vacation for like 2weeks and may not be able to get to a computer