If Hatton Has No Chance, Why in the Hell Do You Floyd Fans Want the Fight?

[acb]

Really, reading here all I hear is that Floyd is going to take Hatton to school, box circles around him, make a fool out of him, etc.

Then the very next sentence is, ¨hell yeah the fight got made¨.

Can one of the Floyd Boys or someone intimately associated with their ongoings explain this to me please. If I didnt think the opponent of my favorite fighter had a chance in hell, and I knew my favorite fighter had only a few more fights, I would want another fight, you know for his ´legacy´.

[H .]

They probably don't like Hatton calling Mayweather out, or the fact that Hatton's undefeated.

[Pimp C]

Because Hatton robbed PBF of the championship back in 2005 and the fight should have happened then but Hatton was too much of a pussy to fight him. Not to mention back then it would have been the biggest fight in boxing.

[acb]

Because Hatton robbed PBF of the championship back in 2005 and the fight should have happened then but Hatton was too much of a pussy to fight him. Not to mention back then it would have been the biggest fight in boxing.

Doesnt change the fact that most (dont know about you) Floyd fans think Hatton has no chance. So would you rather a beatdown or a competitive fight for Floyd in his last round of fights?

[markbrooklyn]

Really, reading here all I hear is that Floyd is going to take Hatton to school, box circles around him, make a fool out of him, etc.

Then the very next sentence is, ¨hell yeah the fight got made¨.

Can one of the Floyd Boys or someone intimately associated with their ongoings explain this to me please. If I didnt think the opponent of my favorite fighter had a chance in hell, and I knew my favorite fighter had only a few more fights, I would want another fight, you know for his ´legacy´.

Because Hatton is hype. Alot of people think he's actually a great fighter so Floyd will get credit for beating him even though he's not that great at all. He's good at best but no where near great. And Floyd will also make alot of money for easy work too. Plus... Hatton was talking alot of shit lately about Floyd so it will be good to watch Floyd beat that ass. :good

[H .]

Doesnt change the fact that most (dont know about you) Floyd fans think Hatton has no chance. So would you rather a beatdown or a competitive fight for Floyd in his last round of fights?

:think

[H .]

Because Hatton is hype. Alot of people think he's actually a great fighter so Floyd will get credit for beating him even though he's not that great at all. He's good at best but no where near great. And Floyd will also make alot of money for easy work too. Plus... Hatton was talking alot of shit lately about Floyd so it will be good to watch Floyd beat that ass. :good


:thumbsup

[Pimp C]

Doesnt change the fact that most (dont know about you) Floyd fans think Hatton has no chance. So would you rather a beatdown or a competitive fight for Floyd in his last round of fights?
It really doesn't matter to me, I want to see him fight the best whether it be Mosley, Cotto or Williams and technically Hatton is suppose to be just that. I think PBF will outclass or clearly beat anyone he faces 154 and down. The only person I see beating him is Winky but he'll never make 154 again. Spinks at 154 is another fighter that would give PBF fits. Not too mention he'd be favored over anyone in the world 154 and down.

[Danny Ocean]

hatton is a relentless come forward bodypuncher with no losses and over 40wins

[Pimp C]

Because Hatton is hype. Alot of people think he's actually a great fighter so Floyd will get credit for beating him even though he's not that great at all. He's good at best but no where near great. And Floyd will also make alot of money for easy work too. Plus... Hatton was talking alot of shit lately about Floyd so it will be good to watch Floyd beat that ass. :good
Yep and I can't wait to rub it in their fucking faces when PBF taxes that ass.:yep

[acb]

hatton is a relentless come forward bodypuncher with no losses and over 40wins

And I think it will be a good fight, and competitive. I like the fight, I just cant figure out why if so many see it as a schooling, they are happy to drop 50$ on it.

[markbrooklyn]

hatton is a relentless come forward bodypuncher with no losses and over 40wins

yea against who?? An over the hill Kostya? Completly shot and coming up to 140 Castillo? Those are his biggest fights right? And how many slick pure boxers has Hatton fought?? Please name them. But i can name tons of stand in front of you type fighters he has fought.... :good

[bigtime9]

And I think it will be a good fight, and competitive. I like the fight, I just cant figure out why if so many see it as a schooling, they are happy to drop 50$ on it.

because hatton has something that should have been floyds, the ring title at 140:deal

[acb]

yea against who?? An over the hill Kostya? Completly shot and coming up to 140 Castillo? Those are his biggest fights right? And how many slick pure boxers has Hatton fought?? Please name them. But i can name tons of stand in front of you type fighters he has fought.... :good

So tell me which fights you saw signs of Kostya being over the hill before the Hatton fight.

And Castillo was completely shot?

[paulfv]

The Floyd fans want the fight (at 147, of course) because Hatton has a 'name' and because they know he can be beaten after the Collazo fight.

PBF is running out of 'sure-fire' guys he can beat. Right now, the guy PBF least wants to face, IMO, is SSM. After that, Cotto. Paul Williams is a threat, and Williams knocked off an even bigger threat in Margarito. Hatton is the 'easiest' guy in PBF's mind, and he's undefeated and can draw. Thus, this is the fight for the safety-first PBF.

[sonny73]

Yep and I can't wait to rub it in their fucking faces when PBF taxes that ass.:yep
He wont get no credit for beating Hatton,he'll have home advantage weight advantage and hype advantage.He is meant to easilyt beat Hatton.

[paulfv]

perfect sence..

Floyd boys cant DENY it when all we hear about is how hot 147 is and Floyd is chasing A JW..


Thanks. Ever since PBF moved from 135, his choice of opponents has followed a pretty predictable formula:

1. Get guys who can draw fans and PPV buys, b/c PBF can't (Gatti, DLH, RH)

2. Fight guys past their prime. 34+ years old is the 'sweet
spot.' (Mitchell, Baldomir, DLH)

3. Fight guys coming off of losses (Zab)

4. Fight guys who have shown weakness (RH @ 147) and
make sure you set the terms of the fight with the
conditions best set-up for the opponent's weaknesses
to come out (147)

5. Avoid fights which you could lose (SSM, AM and now, PW,
possibly).


And that's how you get a list of guys like Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, ODLH and now Hatton. Cherrypicking isn't easy, but PBF's camp is so used to it that it is almost a no-brainer to figure out who they will pick as the next opponent. That's why I always knew Cory Spinks' name would get mentioned (as it has in the past by PBF's team) - he's a light-hitting, low-threat choice. Hatton sucked at 147? Cool. Sign him up!

@ 147.

Same old PBF...

[Lance_Uppercut]

Really, reading here all I hear is that Floyd is going to take Hatton to school, box circles around him, make a fool out of him, etc.

Then the very next sentence is, ¨hell yeah the fight got made¨.

Can one of the Floyd Boys or someone intimately associated with their ongoings explain this to me please. If I didnt think the opponent of my favorite fighter had a chance in hell, and I knew my favorite fighter had only a few more fights, I would want another fight, you know for his ´legacy´.

What would you expect by a bunch of idiots? It's the same thing that happened with DLH to an extent. DLH was WAAAY overrarted, but Floyd beating him moving him to this great pantheon with SRR and Ali. :patsch

The Floyd fanatics on this side are truly idiots...

[Lance_Uppercut]

Because Hatton robbed PBF of the championship back in 2005 and the fight should have happened then but Hatton was too much of a pussy to fight him. Not to mention back then it would have been the biggest fight in boxing.

Floyd was never Hatton's Mandatory...so how did he rob him? And before you say he didn't need to be a mandatory, explain WHY he fought Brusseles to get to Gatti chump.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Yep and I can't wait to rub it in their fucking faces when PBF taxes that ass.:yep

That's because you have no life loser. You live vicariously through Floyd on a message board. But you're so stupid you'd say "I told you so" to people who picked Floyd anyway....

[Lance_Uppercut]

Bigtime9, you would let Floyd use your mouth as a toilet, so your opinion regarding ANYTHING that has to do with Floyd, doesnt really have any merit!

Dude....Fagtime69 has 6 Masters degrees and is a self-proclaimed superintelligent black man!!! Watch out!!:shock:

[Lance_Uppercut]

Oh, so moving up to 140 hurt Castillo? He was basically starving himself to make 135, and failed on 2 attempts. 140 is an ideal weight for Castillo.

That fighter who supposedly MOVED UP had several fights at 140 and above already.

[Pimp C]

He wont get no credit for beating Hatton,he'll have home advantage weight advantage and hype advantage.He is meant to easilyt beat Hatton.
Blame Hatton that the fight didn't happen at 140 then.

[Lance_Uppercut]

LANCE!!!

YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOUR SELF FOR OWNING RETARTED KIDS LIKE THIS..:deal


I own Pimple so much I'm sending him reparations!! :rofl

[KillerInstinct]

Thanks. Ever since PBF moved from 135, his choice of opponents has followed a pretty predictable formula:

1. Get guys who can draw fans and PPV buys, b/c PBF can't (Gatti, DLH)

2. Fight guys past their prime. 34+ years old is the 'sweet
spot.' (Mitchell, Baldomir, DLH)

3. Fight guys coming off of losses (Zab)

4. Fight guys who have shown weakness (RH @ 147) and
make sure you set the terms of the fight with the
conditions best set-up for the opponent's weaknesses
to come out (147)

5. Avoid fights which you could lose (SSM, AM and now, PW,
possibly).


And that's how you get a list of guys like Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, ODLH and now Hatton. Cherrypicking isn't easy,
but PBF's camp is so used to it that it is almost a no-brainer
to figure out who they will pick as the next opponent. That's why I always knew Cory Spinks' name would get mentioned (as it has in the past by PBF's team) - he's a light-hitting low-threat fight. Hatton sucked at 147? Cool. Sign him up!

@ 147.

Same old PBF...

And you know what the sad part is out of all the guys PBF has fought (other than Mitchell)..a good majority of ESBers picked those guys to upset PBF before the fight. Some people even picked Baldomir to beat PBF because Baldomir would be too big for PBF! Then Oscar, a bigger, more skilled fighter who would be able to trounce PBF. Judah, a fast, powerful fighter who would give PBF all sorts of fits. Floyd could literally fight Klitschko and he will still be accused of ducking somebody else. Very sad..

[Lance_Uppercut]

And you know what the sad part is out of all the guys PBF has fought (other than Mitchell)..a good majority of ESBers picked those guys to upset PBF before the fight. Some people even picked Baldomir to beat PBF because Baldomir would be too big for PBF! Then Oscar, a bigger, more skilled fighter who would be able to trounce PBF. Judah, a fast, powerful fighter who would give PBF all sorts of fits. Floyd could literally fight Klitschko and he will still be accused of ducking somebody else. Very sad..

Wrong...not all that many picked Judah or Gatti or Mitchell or Baldomir to win. There were a lot who picked DLH, but shit, he has more groupies then N'Sync did. But at least with DLH, one can see why.

[Pimp C]

Thanks. Ever since PBF moved from 135, his choice of opponents has followed a pretty predictable formula:

1. Get guys who can draw fans and PPV buys, b/c PBF can't (Gatti, DLH)

2. Fight guys past their prime. 34+ years old is the 'sweet
spot.' (Mitchell, Baldomir, DLH)

3. Fight guys coming off of losses (Zab)

4. Fight guys who have shown weakness (RH @ 147) and
make sure you set the terms of the fight with the
conditions best set-up for the opponent's weaknesses
to come out (147)

5. Avoid fights which you could lose (SSM, AM and now, PW,
possibly).


And that's how you get a list of guys like Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, ODLH and now Hatton. Cherrypicking isn't easy,
but PBF's camp is so used to it that it is almost a no-brainer
to figure out who they will pick as the next opponent. That's why I always knew Cory Spinks' name would get mentioned (as it has in the past by PBF's team) - he's a light-hitting low-threat fight. Hatton sucked at 147? Cool. Sign him up!

@ 147.

Same old PBF...
You're fucking hilarious. You do realize you could do this with every fighter's resume don't you?
Why did Pac fight EM after coming off a loss?
Why did Hatton try and get a fight with Gatti even after he was clearly past it?
Why has Hatton ducked Witter for years?
I could go on and on.:-(

[Pimp C]

Floyd was never Hatton's Mandatory...so how did he rob him? And before you say he didn't need to be a mandatory, explain WHY he fought Brusseles to get to Gatti chump.
Why did Hatton try and do the same thing he was chasing Gatti as well.:deal

[Lance_Uppercut]

You're fucking hilarious. You do realize you could do this with every fighter's resume don't you?
Why did Pac fight EM after coming off a loss?
Why did Hatton try and get a fight with Gatti even after he was clearly past it?
Why has Hatton ducked Witter for years?
I could go on and on.:-(

Instead of crying like a bitch and bringing up other fighters, debunk that post if you can. Tell us how great each and every one iof those guys were. Always gotta try change the subject....:patsch

[Lance_Uppercut]

Why did Hatton try and do the same thing he was chasing Gatti as well.:deal

Same reason as Floyd, exposure dumbfuck. Do you not get it? Either way, you didn't see me jumping for JOY at that possiblity...

[Pimp C]

That's because you have no life loser. You live vicariously through Floyd on a message board. But you're so stupid you'd say "I told you so" to people who picked Floyd anyway....
And your pussy ass is too much of a bitch to ever make a pick. I'm tired of that I don't hate PBF just his fans bullshit.
Don't get me started on you Lance with your hype job of Margo that went well didn't it?:lol: :yep

[Lance_Uppercut]

And your pussy ass is too much of a bitch to ever make a pick. I'm tired of that I don't hate PBF just his fans bullshit.
Don't get me started on you Lance with your hype job of Margo that went well didn't it?:lol: :yep

I was a Margarito fan before Mayweahter ran from him. You got into boxingnot too long ago due to your love for Floyd, so don't talk to me about hype jobs bitch. You're a johnny-come-lately to floyd;s career. I was cheering him before you got out of high school pimple.

I make picks when I am confident of them. YOU admittied to picking against Margarito because you hate him. What an asshole...:patsch

[bigtime9]

I was a Margarito fan before Mayweahter ran from him

sure you were, you dying sperm cell:lol:

[Pimp C]

I was a Margarito fan before Mayweahter ran from him. You got into boxingnot too long ago due to your love for Floyd, so don't talk to me about hype jobs bitch. You're a johnny-come-lately to floyd;s career. I was cheering him before you got out of high school pimple.

I make picks when I am confident of them. YOU admittied to picking against Margarito because you hate him. What an asshole...:patsch
I was fucking around in the Zab-Margo. I picked Williams to beat Margo because I knew Margo was a hype job and I can spot a mismatch when I see one unlike your dumb nuthugging ass.:hi:

[paulfv]

You're fucking hilarious. You do realize you could do this with every fighter's resume don't you?
Why did Pac fight EM after coming off a loss?
Why did Hatton try and get a fight with Gatti even after he was clearly past it?
Why has Hatton ducked Witter for years?
I could go on and on.:-(

No, you don't seem to understand, or more likely, don't choose to understand the difference.

PBF has ONLY fought guys that fit my 5-point profile since moving from 135. You're picking ONE example from Pac's career (nobody with any knowledge - no one - tries to claim Pac ducks anybody), and TWO examples from Hatton's career.

There is no 140+ lb. Tszyu, or any equivalent, on PBF's ledger -- that's not an accident. Was Tszyu old? He may have been, but you certainly couldn't tell that from the ass-whipping he put on Mitchell in his previous fight. Not only was Tszyu 'a' threat to Hatton, he was 'the' threat. And Hatton took the challenge. Then Hatton thought he was going to fight fraudulent Vivian Harris, but Maussa took care of that.

And when Hatton moved up, he moved up to fight a guy in his prime (25) who was a real threat (27 wins in 28 fights), not a 34-year-old aging wanna-be singer who fades in the later rounds and hasn't looked legit for years.

Witter? Oh, the guy who got smoked by Zab? That guy? The guy who struggled to beat some Ukranian fighting out of Germany not named Klitschko for something called the 'EBU' belt?

Yeah, I'm sure the guy who beat Tszyu - who had DESTROYED Judah in 2 - is real worried about a guy who got, um, PWNED against Judah. That's the guy you're talking about, right? LOL!!!! :rofl:lol::lol::rofl

Gatti? Sure, when you're fighting legends like Tszyu and prime guys like Collazo, every now and then you want a golden goose. Againk, the difference is that this is the exception for Hatton and the rule for PBF. And Hatton never made the fight.

PBF sees Hatton as the weakest link between SSM (let him age another year or two and then PBF can feel safe), Cotto (a little too big, busy and in-his-prime for PBF's taste - although I think PBF would beat him), and Williams (the guy who beat the guy PBF wanted NO part of has to be scary). It's pretty simple. And Hatton will bring in fans, unlike a Spinks (who, after his good showing against Taylor probably scared off PBF). To tell you the truth, the natural fight for PBF would be Malignanni - he's smaller with no power, a perfect fit for PBF. But that's at 140 and no one would care.

No, Hatton (at 147) is the easiest choice for PBF between viable fighters. PBF should be nicknamed 'electricity,' because since he moved from 135, you can be sure he will take the path of least resistance. He doesn't want a challenge, he wants a cherrypick, and a cherrypick he can gravy-train off of because no one likes PBF's potshotting style.

Once Hatton struggled with Collazo, it was only a matter of time before PBF made this fight. At 147. Like Vitali either KO's people or gets injured, this is what the post-135 PBF does. No surprises - you know what's coming. And that's why many can't place him at the tops of their p-4-p lists: We all know the con, the scam. Nobody's fooled, nobody's buying the hype. Just another day for Mr. "Electricity," who has seemed to learn better from RJJ than Anakin did from Obi-wan and Sidious combined.

Here's the difference b/n Hatton and PBF in a nutshell -- PBF is picking what he thinks is the easiest guy in Hatton and making him fight at a weight he struggled at; Hatton, conversely, is fighting the 'hardest' guy he can fight and is moving up to a weight he sucked at to challenge that guy. One guy is cherrypicking, the other guy is taking a challenge by moving up to face the 'great' PBF.

Hope that helps make things clearer for you.

[markbrooklyn]

So tell me which fights you saw signs of Kostya being over the hill before the Hatton fight.

And Castillo was completely shot?

Kostya was what? 35 when he fought Hatton? and hatton was what? 24? give me a break you act like he beat a prime Kostya. And Castillo wasnt completely shot??? He BARELY beat that bum in his first fight at junior welter and he could barely even stand up straight in the Hatton fight.. How WASNT he completely shot?

[paulfv]

Just re-did the end of that last post, so if you already read it, read it again

[Alo2006]

Being a Mayweather fan, I would rather him fight Mosley :yep

[paulfv]

Kostya was what? 35 when he fought Hatton? and hatton was what? 24? give me a break you act like he beat a prime Kostya. And Castillo wasnt completely shot??? He BARELY beat that bum in his first fight at junior welter and he could barely even stand up straight in the Hatton fight.. How WASNT he completely shot?

Read again, this time slower and go over the part about Tszyu destroying Mitchell and showing ZERO signs of slowing down before he fought Hatton. NOBODY can try to compare that with a DLH who fights about as often as Charles Barkley dunks these last few years.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Read again, this time slower and go over the part about Tszyu destroying Mitchell and showing ZERO signs of slowing down before he fought Hatton. NOBODY can try to compare that with a DLH who fights about as often as Charles Barkley dunks these last few years.

Why you gotta diss Barkley.... :nono
Funny though...and true.:thumbsup

[markbrooklyn]

Read again, this time slower and go over the part about Tszyu destroying Mitchell and showing ZERO signs of slowing down before he fought Hatton. NOBODY can try to compare that with a DLH who fights about as often as Charles Barkley dunks these last few years.

Ok so you're pretty much saying Kostya is better then Delahoya?? Floyd MOVED UP to 154 lbs to fight Delahoya.. Do you think Hatton would move to 154 and even have a chance right now?? Yes or no? :huh

[Lance_Uppercut]

I was fucking around in the Zab-Margo. I picked Williams to beat Margo because I knew Margo was a hype job and I can spot a mismatch when I see one unlike your dumb nuthugging ass.:hi:

Sorry asshole...you pick everyone against Margarito because you're an irrational idiot who hates MArgarito just for wanting to fight your hero.

[paulfv]

Being a Mayweather fan, I would rather him fight Mosley :yep

That fight won't happen for at least another year. Mosley is still too dangerous for PBF. By Cotto and SSM fighting, PBF gets to have one of his 'phobias' removed, much as Williams removed Margarito.

Mosley will win, and PBF will likely rematch ODLH or fight Malignanni until SSM has a little less left on the tires. Perhaps when Shane is 36+, PBF will meet the 'challenge' of SSM.

[Alo2006]

Yes Mosley is, I think he would be the toughest WW for Floyd. I still pick Floyd by UD.

[paulfv]

Ok so you're pretty much saying Kostya is better then Delahoya?? Floyd MOVED UP to 154 lbs to fight Delahoya.. Do you think Hatton would move to 154 and even have a chance right now?? Yes or no? :huh
No, invalid question. I don't answer crap like that.

What I'm saying is that a 35 (the age you used) year old Tszyu was UNBELIEVABLY better, p-4-p, than the old, who-gives-a-f*ck-I-got-mad-$$$$ DLH that PBF fought. Why? Because Tszyu wasn't in semi-retirement, he wasn't 2-2 (could have been 1-3) in his last 4 fights, and he had shown ZERO -> Z-E-R-O - signs of slowing down or losing his edge. The Tszyu that obliterated Mitchell looked phenomenal. That's the Tszyu that Hatton challenged.

DLH was a fat lottery winner against Strum. He got KO'd by Hopkins. He lost (although I thought he won) against SSM. And he faced a no-skills, Tito-ruined-him Mayorga.

There is absolutely no comparison between the two fighters Hatton and PBF chose to fight, particularly going into their choices to fight them.

Your argument is about as strong as a twig with Dumbo the Elephant standing on it. Save the wannabe "Jedi Mind Trick," joke arguments for someone ignorant enough not to be able to poke holes in them.

[acb]

Kostya was what? 35 when he fought Hatton? and hatton was what? 24? give me a break you act like he beat a prime Kostya. And Castillo wasnt completely shot??? He BARELY beat that bum in his first fight at junior welter and he could barely even stand up straight in the Hatton fight.. How WASNT he completely shot?

You didnt answer my question. In what fights before the Hatton fight did you see that he was moving past it? In what ways was he beggining to slip? Because to me you sound like a guy who refuses to give Hatton any credit.

Dont give me that bullshit about 35 years old, its a fucking copout and you know it. If you cant answer my question, just say so. :deal

[rr94]

B/c all the Hatton fans say he needs to fight Hatton to add to his legacy, and Hatton talked shit. A win over Hatton is a big fight, a big win, and it sets up a large fight with Cotto/Mosely winner. The winner of Cotto/Mosely is Cotto and Pacquiao loses...Cotto-Mayweather is HUGE HUGE fight, and tough tough fight. Mosely wins, Mosely has earned a big fight win so the promotion can say "Shane is back in top form, beat the best young welter, and can beat Floyd".

Period.

Mayweather ruins Hatton, but afterwards Mayweather in another superfight. Exposes him. Everything Hatton does, Cotto does better. It sets up a great fight. Plain and simple.

[bigtime9]

PBF has ONLY fought guys that fit my 5-point profile since moving from 135. You're picking ONE example from Pac's career (nobody with any knowledge - no one - tries to claim Pac ducks anybody), and TWO examples from Hatton's career.


has pac faced guzman, soto, barrios, or anyone with a pulse besides barrera and morales, two fighters at the end of their careers. Your profile fits every fighter fighting today:-( Don't try and cloud your bias by using words like "5-point profile" just admit you are jealous of foyds brilliant abilities.



There is no 140+ lb. Tszyu, or any equivalent, on PBF's ledger -- that's not an accident. Was Tszyu old? He may have been, but you certainly couldn't tell that from the ass-whipping he put on Mitchell in his previous fight. Not only was Tszyu 'a' threat to Hatton, he was 'the' threat. And Hatton took the challenge. Then Hatton thought he was going to fight fraudulent Vivian Harris, but Maussa took care of that

How many prime Hofers did zoo face in his career? I know for a fact generao hernadez, and jose luis castillo were considered the ring champ in their respective weight classes when floyd beat them. Corrales and castillo both had more impressive careers then zoo who never faced an atg in his career. There is no mosley, trinidad, hoya, or floyd on zoos resume just a lot of b-level fighters and shot old-timers.


And when Hatton moved up, he moved up to fight a guy in his prime (25) who was a real threat (27 wins in 28 fights), not a 34-year-old aging wanna-be singer who fades in the later rounds and hasn't looked legit for years.


are you saying collazo would beat hoya at 154:lol: When has collazo ever looked legit, oh i remember when he was smashing ricky's face in:deal


Gatti? Sure, when you're fighting legends like Tszyu and prime guys like Collazo, every now and then you want a golden goose. Againk, the difference is that this is the exception for Hatton and the rule for PBF. And Hatton never made the fight.


zoo is not a legend, zoo is never mentioned in the same breath as oscar, shane, trinidad, b-hop, roy, toney, wright and floyd. zoo did very little in his career that would be considered legendary. but since you are so quick to label him as such why don't you enlighten us:-(( Hatton held the 140lb title hostage and now the piper is calling:D


PBF sees Hatton as the weakest link between SSM (let him age another year or two and then PBF can feel safe), Cotto (a little too big, busy and in-his-prime for PBF's taste - although I think PBF would beat him), and Williams (the guy who beat the guy PBF wanted NO part of has to be scary). It's pretty simple. And Hatton will bring in fans, unlike a Spinks (who, after his good showing against Taylor probably scared off PBF). To tell you the truth, the natural fight for PBF would be Malignanni - he's smaller with no power, a perfect fit for PBF. But that's at 140 and no one would care.


so you admit hatton is weak...good you are getting past denial:admin

No, Hatton (at 147) is the easiest choice for PBF between viable fighters. PBF should be nicknamed 'electricity,' because since he moved from 135, you can be sure he will take the path of least resistance. He doesn't want a challenge, he wants a cherrypick, and a cherrypick he can gravy-train off of because no one likes PBF's potshotting style.


hatton is easy for floyd, I know this many others know this but that is not the point. the fight has to be fought to determine if hatton really is a joke or if he is for real. if he can put up a decent fight and not get blown up i will give him props, but if floyd dusts him then ah hell you don't want to be on esb the day after:banana

Once Hatton struggled with Collazo, it was only a matter of time before PBF made this fight. At 147. Like Vitali either KO's people or gets injured, this is what the post-135 PBF does. No surprises - you know what's coming. And that's why many can't place him at the tops of their p-4-p lists: We all know the con, the scam. Nobody's fooled, nobody's buying the hype. Just another day for Mr. "Electricity," who has seemed to learn better from RJJ than Anakin did from Obi-wan and Sidious combined.

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wait, didn't hatton beat the "legendary" zoo. Are you saying hatton is a joke and doesn't belong in the same ring as floyd:deal if so why is he the ring champ at 140? Floyds last five fights have been against former champs, of the fighters you say floyd is ducking which one has fought more champs in their last five fights:deal

Here's the difference b/n Hatton and PBF in a nutshell -- PBF is picking what he thinks is the easiest guy in Hatton and making him fight at a weight he struggled at; Hatton, conversely, is fighting the 'hardest' guy he can fight and is moving up to a weight he sucked at to challenge that guy. One guy is cherrypicking, the other guy is taking a challenge by moving up to face the 'great' PBF.


floyd is the wbc/ring champ at 147 four weight classes from his original weight and you think he is making hatton move up in weight. why would floyd drop the wbc title at 147 to fight hatton at 140..make sense. Hatton wasn't challenging himself when he fought mausa, urango, and collazo, he was fighting guys he had a chance of beating.

[Lance_Uppercut]

has pac faced guzman, soto, barrios, or anyone with a pulse besides barrera and morales, two fighters at the end of their careers. Your profile fits every fighter fighting today:-( Don't try and cloud your bias by using words like "5-point profile" just admit you are jealous of foyds brilliant abilities.





How many prime Hofers did zoo face in his career? I know for a fact generao hernadez, and jose luis castillo were considered the ring champ in their respective weight classes when floyd beat them. Corrales and castillo both had more impressive careers then zoo who never faced an atg in his career. There is no mosley, trinidad, hoya, or floyd on zoos resume just a lot of b-level fighters and shot old-timers.




are you saying collazo would beat hoya at 154:lol: When has collazo ever looked legit, oh i remember when he was smashing ricky's face in:deal




zoo is not a legend, zoo is never mentioned in the same breath as oscar, shane, trinidad, b-hop, roy, toney, wright and floyd. zoo did very little in his career that would be considered legendary. but since you are so quick to label him as such why don't you enlighten us:-(( Hatton held the 140lb title hostage and now the piper is calling:D




so you admit hatton is weak...good you are getting past denial:admin



hatton is easy for floyd, I know this many others know this but that is not the point. the fight has to be fought to determine if hatton really is a joke or if he is for real. if he can put up a decent fight and not get blown up i will give him props, but if floyd dusts him then ah hell you don't want to be on esb the day after:banana


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wait, didn't hatton beat the "legendary" zoo. Are you saying hatton is a joke and doesn't belong in the same ring as floyd:deal if so why is he the ring champ at 140? Floyds last five fights have been against former champs, of the fighters you say floyd is ducking which one has fought more champs in their last five fights:deal



floyd is the wbc/ring champ at 147 four weight classes from his original weight and you think he is making hatton move up in weight. why would floyd drop the wbc title at 147 to fight hatton at 140..make sense. Hatton wasn't challenging himself when he fought mausa, urango, and collazo, he was fighting guys he had a chance of beating.


For everyone to see, the utter IGNORANCE and STUPIDITY of a self-proclaimed super intelligent black man w/ 6 Masters degrees....:patsch

[rr94]

Kostya showed no signs of wearing down because all he fought was Sharmba Mitchell...whom Floyd and P-Williams disposed of way better. Kostya's injuries, surguries, and year+ vacation aged Kostya early.

What happened to Hatton at 147? The record says he won against Collazo, after flash knockdown early he just slipped and slipped. Castillo was shot in Ngoudjo fight. So whose Hatton beat? Hatton loses to Cotto, Mayweather, Mosely, Williams, Margarito...at 147. NO disrespect though...i like Hatton and he is "good", not "great", and Mayweather may be not "great" but he's 15 steps closer than Hatton. Those eyes are gonna bleed from the lead left hooks, and then potshot city against a blind opponent. Match the styles. Baldomir presented more risk at 147 than Hatton. And it's silly how similiar they look sometimes.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Kostya showed no signs of wearing down because all he fought was Sharmba Mitchell...whom Floyd and P-Williams disposed of way better. Kostya's injuries, surguries, and year+ vacation aged Kostya early.



KT blew him out in 3 rounds
Floyd did it in 6
William in 4


How did they do it better? :huh

At least Mitchell was on a streak and in his better weight class when KT did it as well.

[paulfv]

has pac faced guzman, soto, barrios, or anyone with a pulse besides barrera and morales


That's as far as my quoting needs to go.

Anybody feel like crushing this slow-pitch softball that bigtime tossed?

Sorry, bigtime, you just lost your credibility.

[paulfv]

What happened to Hatton at 147?

Right. Thanks for making my point for me:

There's a reason why PBF wants to fight him AT 147, JUST LIKE I SAID.

Seriously, peeps, you have to think about your argument - and mine - before you just post stuff like this which is so easy to counter.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Right. Thanks for making my point for me:

There's a reason why PBF wants to fight him AT 147, JUST LIKE I SAID.

Seriously, peeps, you have to think about your argument - and mine - before you just post stuff like this which is so easy to counter.

It's not to hard to ocunter the argument some of the guys make. They confuse opinion for fact, and often contradict themselves. Bunch of hypocrites...

[Marnoff]

I see Floyd taking it to Hatton, but I still want to see it happen. Hatton is a pressure fighter, and I think that will produce some brilliant moments as Floyd moves and counters.

[MacManJr.]

Really, reading here all I hear is that Floyd is going to take Hatton to school, box circles around him, make a fool out of him, etc.

Then the very next sentence is, ¨hell yeah the fight got made¨.

Can one of the Floyd Boys or someone intimately associated with their ongoings explain this to me please. If I didnt think the opponent of my favorite fighter had a chance in hell, and I knew my favorite fighter had only a few more fights, I would want another fight, you know for his ´legacy´.Because Hatton needs to be exposed for the overrated bum that he is. I call him Baby Ruiz.

[the_what]

Hatton is a P4P fighter. Undefeated. The Ring Champion at 140. Why woudnt Mayweather want to fight him? He would be stupid not too.

[JaRulez]

Who says boxing is dead fellas? Mayweather-Hatton adds another major fight to an already loaded fall that also will include the Jermain Taylor-Kelly Pavlik middleweight championship showdown (Sept. 29), the Manny Pacquiao-Marco Antonio Barrera rematch (Oct. 6), the probable Juan Diaz-Julio Diaz lightweight unification bout (Oct. 13), the heavily anticipated Joe Calzaghe-Mikkel Kessler super middleweight unification bout (Nov. 3), the probable Miguel Cotto-Shane Mosley welterweight title bout (Nov. 10) and the Joan Guzman-Humberto Soto junior lightweight title match (Nov. 17).

[Johnnyblaze]

This is not going to be an easy fight for Floyd at all. He is going to win, but like I have been saying for a while, he is going to get bashed and probably bruised and cut. but i still see a wide ud for mayweather.

[Toopretty]

Ok, first off. Hatton disrespected floyd to a degree he has to fight him in the post fight. I mean he threw a direct str8 up personal insult on national TV to a fighter that has an ego. Second, just to shut up every UK poster on esb that been saying for the last 2-3 years that Floyd would never step in the ring with Hatton. Hatton would knock floyd out. blah,blah,blah,blah. Third, it is a good name to have on his resume and gets him the proper recognition at 140.

[killacam2939]

I've been wanting to see this fight happen for a few years now. And now that it's just about official, I'm thrilled. I've picked Floyd from day 1 if this fight were to ever happen, and I'm sticking to that. So to answer the question, I believe Hatton has a chance to beat Floyd, just not a great chance. I think it will be a great fight to watch either way (if Floyd boxes the shit out of him, or Hatton keeps it really competitive). A part of me really wants to see Floyd out box him though, because all of the UK (and others outside) think that this guy (Hatton) is the second coming of Christ. We shall see though, it promises a good fight and an even bigger fight down the line for the winner. And to really answer the question would you rather see your favorite ______ sports team play a team they know they can beat or play a team a lot tougher that you have a greater chance of losing.

[C Money]

MOST FLOYD FANS ARE FULL OF SHIT adn deep down dont desire to see this fight!!!!


At most?? They are simply tired of trying to defend against why Floyd hasnt fought the top opposition!! Previously? Same crew clinged to "PBF mad two offers' as proof Hatton didnt want it!!:lol: When in fact, and as I said all a long, the timing wasnt right due to Frank ****** and an HBO 3 fight deal!! After all the bullshit and excuses?? They have NO CHOICE but to support their HERO!!!

Now PBF may well take his first step towards real legitimacy in this fight but IT WONT BE EASY!!!! Of course, the "crew" has their story and their stuck to it!!!!!!!!!!! Ignoring reality isnt new to them, it's rather a TRADEMARK!!!

I applaud Mayweather for attempting it and only hope that if he wins?? he has the heart, balls, and fortitude of a real ATG to continue his quest against the remaining top opponents!!

[Danny Ocean]

Thanks. Ever since PBF moved from 135, his choice of opponents has followed a pretty predictable formula:

1. Get guys who can draw fans and PPV buys, b/c PBF can't (Gatti, DLH, RH)

2. Fight guys past their prime. 34+ years old is the 'sweet
spot.' (Mitchell, Baldomir, DLH)

3. Fight guys coming off of losses (Zab)

4. Fight guys who have shown weakness (RH @ 147) and
make sure you set the terms of the fight with the
conditions best set-up for the opponent's weaknesses
to come out (147)

5. Avoid fights which you could lose (SSM, AM and now, PW,
possibly).


And that's how you get a list of guys like Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, ODLH and now Hatton. Cherrypicking isn't easy, but PBF's camp is so used to it that it is almost a no-brainer to figure out who they will pick as the next opponent. That's why I always knew Cory Spinks' name would get mentioned (as it has in the past by PBF's team) - he's a light-hitting, low-threat choice. Hatton sucked at 147? Cool. Sign him up!

@ 147.

Same old PBF...

4. who has he done that with, he fought on gattis turf, he fought oscar at 154 with a small ring and reyes gloves

please mosley has ducked a mayweather fight for 2 years, shane is a joke and a puppet for oscar

[Danny Ocean]

how is this a safety first fight,hatton has just come an excellent performance vs castillo when he knocked him out with 1 shot live on hbo
if i remember wasnt it the fans saying this was the biggest fight that could be made a year ago,

1nce again floyd haters show they are adaptable to any given situation

[C Money]

how is this a safety first fight,hatton has just come an excellent performance vs castillo when he knocked him out with 1 shot live on hbo
if i remember wasnt it the fans saying this was the biggest fight that could be made a year ago,

1nce again floyd haters show they are adaptable to any given situation

No my little NUTHUGGER!!!! For the first time since Castillo, Floyd will face a relevant and prime contender/champion.


Dont forget, that PBF wouldnt face the "other" Champ at 35 being Spadafor because he beat Floyd around the ring like "He stole something":good

Proof is in the pudding and Floyd still doent hav the recipe COMPLETE!!!!

[The Tuaman]

If anything at least this fight will prevent us posting threads in 10 years time asking "who would have won between Hatton and PBF"

I think PBF has to fight Hatton to help secure his legacy, Hatton is undeafted and PBF being the 1st person to beat him will add to the growing list of PBF achievements IMO

Im nbo PBF fan i dont cvare who wins, but i think PBF will beat Hatton by UD or a stoppage in the championship rounds!

[Scar]

Really, reading here all I hear is that Floyd is going to take Hatton to school, box circles around him, make a fool out of him, etc.

Then the very next sentence is, ¨hell yeah the fight got made¨.

Can one of the Floyd Boys or someone intimately associated with their ongoings explain this to me please. If I didnt think the opponent of my favorite fighter had a chance in hell, and I knew my favorite fighter had only a few more fights, I would want another fight, you know for his ´legacy´.

Hatton definitely has a chance, it's just the fact that some fans believe their favorite fighter will win no matter who he fights, nothing complicating here if you've followed boxing for long. Too many examples are out there, Trinidad fans thought Hopkins had 0 chance yet they still were happy the fight was on, Klitschko/Lewis is another example and many other fights.

[Danny Ocean]

haters are funny

[SUNOF7]

FLOYD IS UNDEFEATED AND P4P#1... face it

[Smazz20]

Anyone who dosen't give credit to Floyd for making this fight, be it at 140 or 147 or maybe even a catchweight, is a fucking moron. Hatton, is a quality figter who looks like he can cause some serious problems for Mayweather. Saying that, i'd favour Mayweather to beat him quite comfortably. Both fighters deserve praise regardless of the outcome. Strangley enough, or considering boxing, not so strange, the loser could be the one to come out with more credit.

[ron u.k.]

yea against who?? An over the hill Kostya? Completly shot and coming up to 140 Castillo? Those are his biggest fights right? And how many slick pure boxers has Hatton fought?? Please name them. But i can name tons of stand in front of you type fighters he has fought.... :goodboring.

[Toopretty]

UK fans dont understand logic and they will see the truth reign down on December..Floyd is not coming to pot shot.. He wants to expose hatton. Last time floyd had that type of feeling was with Corrales and Gatti. The two fights that got personal. See the results...

[C Money]

You are so stupid. PBF has a bad day at the gym, never mind he is just getting back into serious training at the time and Spada is peaking for a fight and you take that seriously.

No one ever was cared about Spada. Spada has and still it just a regional fighter with very limited ability.

It is time you take the Kool Aid, so we can all be assured your gene pool is finished.

:lol:

Ya know, I've been rather tolerant of you're nipping at the heels for a while now as you nip at most posts with NOTHING RELEVANT ever said.l
Hey Req.. take you're guerilla out to dinner, instead of taking shots at me with you're useless/pathetically devoid of pertinient information posts:good

You know exactly shit about how and why it went down and as I've pointed out Floyd was hardly as "out of shape" as the excuse. Apparently, unless Spadafora is in REHAB, he's not in condition to face Floyd:lol: The point of it all?? Goes beyond Spadafora! It's a supposed P4P super hero running from a supposedly inferior fighter. Then followed up by avoiding all the top opponents at 40 and 47, gee, that's SPECIAL:hey

For the first time since 2002 PBF is making a meaningful fight against a prime opponent and IT'S ABOUT TIME!!! I applaud Floyd for it and hope that it is the BEGINNING of reversing the bullshit cherry picking trend that has marred his career. He has every opportunity to do so at 47 and we'll see how it plays out. Hatton is an appropriate 1st step:good

[C Money]

UK fans dont understand logic and they will see the truth reign down on December..Floyd is not coming to pot shot.. He wants to expose hatton. Last time floyd had that type of feeling was with Corrales and Gatti. The two fights that got personal. See the results...

Hatton will have as many American fans at the event as PBF fans. Floyd isn't a real draw or very popular because is attitude and demeanor is assinine.

As for Corrales and Gatti?? Hatton is far better than both as a fighter. Floyd may win this fight, but I GUARANTEEE that it will look nothing like either of the fights you mentioned. Plus, one might note that Corrales's life was in shamble's around the time Floyd jumped on him and it wasnt a 100% version of Chico.

[igotJUIC3]

You can never satisfy people till you do what they want you to do...its crazy how people who will NEVER box at the level of either of these fighters have the audacity to criticize when they both face good opponents. Its nonsense to say you have to fight at a certain weight for ONE fighter because anything higher is a handicap...all ATG's move around in weight to face comp...it should be no different for Hatton..he wants to be the CHAMP he wants the accolades and recognition then fighting at 147 is no problem...his showing wit Collazo was agaisnt a TRUE 147 who was bigger so naturally he struggled because Collazo hits just as hard and can take what Hatton dishes out. PBF is no TRUE 147 and his naturally smaller than Hatton so they fight will be the same at either wieght.

For people using SPARRING as an argument shows how much you really know boxing..sparring is just that sparring...there are too many veriables to judge that fight...and it was said even by the boxing commentators who showed the clip of the session that PBF was in fact out of shape and Spadafora was already training for a fight...you just cant turn those facts down..i did see the session and PBF just took a lot of punishment just took it...after the session he collapsed in the corner right by Spadafora.

Bottom line is people should quit criticizing these fighters so harshly..Hatton beat very good fighters in Zu and Castillo....no matter their age or where they are at in their careers.....i dont care how old they were...he made Zu not even come out and Zu is no punk. He mad Castillo bow down from a body blow...i mean its takes a damn good punch to put Cas down and Hatton did it with a body blow.

Floyd has done a lot whether you like it or not, like who he faced or not..the man is a true 130 or 135 and has fought opposition all the way up to 154..people who hit harder than him and naturally are bigger. He beat the CHAMPS i dont care who they were or how they got it..they were the champs in 5 divisions. A naturally smaller fighter doing this...not an easy task people.

Bottom line is its a great fight...i cant imagine why people discredit eitehr for this fight...it is one of the fights boxing needs...both undefeated both in their primes both p4p the best both are somewhat of a draw both have accomplished a lot and botha re very talented! This will be a great fight and as boxing fans i rather argue over the outcome rather than why is he facing him oh he ducking or he takes easy opponents or he takes least resistance....please both these fighters can lose there are risks in every fight especially when your naturally smaller than someone or naturally slower....you gotta give credit where it is due.

[Smazz20]

You can never satisfy people till you do what they want you to do...its crazy how people who will NEVER box at the level of either of these fighters have the audacity to criticize when they both face good opponents. Its nonsense to say you have to fight at a certain weight for ONE fighter because anything higher is a handicap...all ATG's move around in weight to face comp...it should be no different for Hatton..he wants to be the CHAMP he wants the accolades and recognition then fighting at 147 is no problem...his showing wit Collazo was agaisnt a TRUE 147 who was bigger so naturally he struggled because Collazo hits just as hard and can take what Hatton dishes out. PBF is no TRUE 147 and his naturally smaller than Hatton so they fight will be the same at either wieght.

For people using SPARRING as an argument shows how much you really know boxing..sparring is just that sparring...there are too many veriables to judge that fight...and it was said even by the boxing commentators who showed the clip of the session that PBF was in fact out of shape and Spadafora was already training for a fight...you just cant turn those facts down..i did see the session and PBF just took a lot of punishment just took it...after the session he collapsed in the corner right by Spadafora.

Bottom line is people should quit criticizing these fighters so harshly..Hatton beat very good fighters in Zu and Castillo....no matter their age or where they are at in their careers.....i dont care how old they were...he made Zu not even come out and Zu is no punk. He mad Castillo bow down from a body blow...i mean its takes a damn good punch to put Cas down and Hatton did it with a body blow.

Floyd has done a lot whether you like it or not, like who he faced or not..the man is a true 130 or 135 and has fought opposition all the way up to 154..people who hit harder than him and naturally are bigger. He beat the CHAMPS i dont care who they were or how they got it..they were the champs in 5 divisions. A naturally smaller fighter doing this...not an easy task people.

Bottom line is its a great fight...i cant imagine why people discredit eitehr for this fight...it is one of the fights boxing needs...both undefeated both in their primes both p4p the best both are somewhat of a draw both have accomplished a lot and botha re very talented! This will be a great fight and as boxing fans i rather argue over the outcome rather than why is he facing him oh he ducking or he takes easy opponents or he takes least resistance....please both these fighters can lose there are risks in every fight especially when your naturally smaller than someone or naturally slower....you gotta give credit where it is due.

So your not a hater and your not a nuthugger......hhhmmm, what sort of freak are you??:think

Only j/k. I agree 100% with this. Too many people look to poke holes where it suits them. This fight is as genuine as it gets. We all want this.

[El Bombasto]

taking fights against guys who have little or no chance is what mayweather does

[Toopretty]

Hatton will have as many American fans at the event as PBF fans. Floyd isn't a real draw or very popular because is attitude and demeanor is assinine.

As for Corrales and Gatti?? Hatton is far better than both as a fighter. Floyd may win this fight, but I GUARANTEEE that it will look nothing like either of the fights you mentioned. Plus, one might note that Corrales's life was in shamble's around the time Floyd jumped on him and it wasnt a 100% version of Chico.

That was the same old chico..Anyway. Hatton is like a half level better then chico was and he is better then gatti. But the thing is, Floyd is household now. He is everywhere and is mad popular. Especially in the black community. From being on 24/7 everybody is interested in this guy. Some will pay to see him lose(majority) others will pay to see him win. FLOYD IS NOW A BIG DRAW. He has crossed the threshold. He is recognized everywhere. He may not sell out seats but he will always sell ppvs as he always did. His #s are not as good as delahoyas or Titos was but nobodies #s were. Nobody..he is a solid ppv draw. 300k sales for fighting baldomir proves that..Yeah just like hatton had a bad cold against collazo.. and floyd had a bad shoulder against Castillo. Maybe true, but this is boxing. You cant make excuses.

[C Money]

That was the same old chico..Anyway. Hatton is like a half level better then chico was and he is better then gatti. But the thing is, Floyd is household now. He is everywhere and is mad popular. Especially in the black community. From being on 24/7 everybody is interested in this guy. Some will pay to see him lose(majority) others will pay to see him win. FLOYD IS NOW A BIG DRAW. He has crossed the threshold. He is recognized everywhere. He may not sell out seats but he will always sell ppvs as he always did. His #s are not as good as delahoyas or Titos was but nobodies #s were. Nobody..he is a solid ppv draw. 300k sales for fighting baldomir proves that..Yeah just like hatton had a bad cold against collazo.. and floyd had a bad shoulder against Castillo. Maybe true, but this is boxing. You cant make excuses.

C'mon man, stop the racial aspect!!! There's many great black champions through history and some were GENUINELY popular and respecatble, as they werent fucking asshole's like Floyd.Floyd's a disgrace compared to fighters like Joe Louis, Floyd Patterson, Muhammed Ali, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, etc., etc, etc.
Floyd is like the Black Version of Silver Spoon and now suddenly he's a ghetto icon?? C'mon, man, that's ridiculous. His 'popularity" is only in bling, undefeated hype, and the cash game which what most poor aspiring people look up to. Watch what happens, when the 0 disappears:D Almost half of Floyd's so called "fanbase" will disappear in the wind. As for 300K?? Yeah at least 150 K were tuning in hoping he'd lose, that doesnt mean they are fans. Floyd is not a BIG DRAW!! Say he pulled another stunt and fought somone like Isaac Hlatshwayo at 47, he'd be lucky to see 300 buy's. Hatton will bring more fans at the gate and the PPV numbers will do well as Floyd's fighting a live and popular opponent.

Collazo?? Collazo aint Floyd and I make no excuses. I merely point out Chico's problems because Floyd suddenly went back down in weight to get Corrales as word was out that DC wasn't right. It's just another example of how Floyd has cherry picked his opposition.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME since Castillo that Floyd has made a relevant fight with a prime guy and for that I SALUTE HIM and hope it's the first step on a redemming path which establishes real credibility. I'll respect it more even WHEN he loses(SSM, Cotto, and Hatton is a very possible loss or two) than I would if he had stayed retired hiding behind the 0 and not fighting the best opponents.

[C Money]

For people using SPARRING as an argument shows how much you really know boxing..sparring is just that sparring...there are too many veriables to judge that fight...and it was said even by the boxing commentators who showed the clip of the session that PBF was in fact out of shape and Spadafora was already training for a fight...you just cant turn those facts down..i did see the session and PBF just took a lot of punishment just took it...after the session he collapsed in the corner right by Spadafora.



What it shows?? Is instead of legitimizing himself further at 35?? Floyd chose not to face the inferior fighter and only made an offer when said fighter hit rehab. That speaks for itself!!!! Supa lips should have fought and beat the other Champ and left another W on his legacy.

I dont believe that you saw the session, Ithink you saw the "lowlites" that exist on YOUTUBE and you are missing quite a bit more than what was shown there.

As for how it went down?? Ask yourself why on god's green earth PBF and camp sought Spadafora out at that gym that day, talked all kinds of shit, knowing he was a week and a half from his first defense, if he was so out of shape??:lol: The fact is Floyd was 3 month's from his last fight and 3 months before his next fight and trains all the time like 24/7 indicated. He was looking to embarrass a whiteboy and test the waters at 35 thinking Spadafora was an easy title grab:yep

But god damn?? That "white boy" beat his ass down and around the ring, and thats what Floyd never had the balls to change:good

It's water under the bridge, but still an example of how PBF has cherry picked and manipulated his record. If Floyd feels froggy he could always rectify the situation some day:lol:

[Toopretty]

C money for real. You are too stuck on that Spadafora thing. Floyd had clothes on and everything. It do not count. I mean spadafora can brag but in means nothing in the ring. Nothing. Corrales challenged floyd C money. That was a mutual fight. The bling appeal is what sells platinum records and the main reason any rappers are as popular as they are now. They are a big influence and floyd is household especially especially to the young guys in the black community. Im talking 10 year olds know who he is. Ali was considered the biggest asshole in boxing when he was in his prime and was the most hated fighter of all time. That hate turned into love through is charisma that has been unmatched by any person in any sport. Joe Louis, Floyd Patterson, Joe Frazier and George Foreman did not have as many quote BLACK fans as Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson was not respectable but we loved Mike. I mean eveybody that grew up in that era looked at Mike Tyson as a hero more so then the fighters that we looked at as UNCLE TOMS Joe Louis, Floyd Patterson, Joe Frazier and George Foreman. Majority of us black folk do not even bring them up as there favorite fighters. But you hear Aaron Pryor. Tommy Hearns. Mike Tyson. Leonard. Whitaker. Mayweather. Shit even Judah. That is what it is. You not knowing and not being aware do not know what I am talking about. You think b/c the guys you mentioned acted respectable outside the ring they were who we liked and looked up to. No...not at all.

[Toopretty]

And C money. Floyd hits the gym all the time. Not spars in the boxing gym or does his boxing routine. That is absurb. He goes out and parties the night away more so then any other fighter. His normal training camp is 2 months so if it was 3 months after his last fight and 3 months before his next. I bet whatever he has not been in that ring for the last 3 months and he looked heavy as well he got cocky and got beat up. He was not in fighting form as was spadafora who was in traing camp. Thats why they call it training camp. Most fighters exercise like regular folk but they do not go in the boxing ring unless they are in training camp. When floyd is off of work.. he really does not go in the ring and spar and all that. with who...for what..you think he has sparring partners laying around that he just calls up and says meet me in the ring so he can beat them up when he does not have a fight scheduled..come on.

[Rock0052]

So your not a hater and your not a nuthugger......hhhmmm, what sort of freak are you??:think

Only j/k. I agree 100% with this. Too many people look to poke holes where it suits them. This fight is as genuine as it gets. We all want this.

Yeah....that :good

[C Money]

C money for real. You are too stuck on that Spadafora thing. Floyd had clothes on and everything. It do not count. I mean spadafora can brag but in means nothing in the ring. Nothing. Corrales challenged floyd C money. That was a mutual fight. The bling appeal is what sells platinum records and the main reason any rappers are as popular as they are now. They are a big influence and floyd is household especially especially to the young guys in the black community. Im talking 10 year olds know who he is. Ali was considered the biggest asshole in boxing when he was in his prime and was the most hated fighter of all time. That hate turned into love through is charisma that has been unmatched by any person in any sport. Joe Louis, Floyd Patterson, Joe Frazier and George Foreman did not have as many quote BLACK fans as Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson was not respectable but we loved Mike. I mean eveybody that grew up in that era looked at Mike Tyson as a hero more so then the fighters that we looked at as UNCLE TOMS Joe Louis, Floyd Patterson, Joe Frazier and George Foreman. Majority of us black folk do not even bring them up as there favorite fighters. But you hear Aaron Pryor. Tommy Hearns. Mike Tyson. Leonard. Whitaker. Mayweather. Shit even Judah. That is what it is. You not knowing and not being aware do not know what I am talking about. You think b/c the guys you mentioned acted respectable outside the ring they were who we liked and looked up to. No...not at all.

I'm way beyond the Spadafora issue, but it was the beginning of whats become a pattern for Floyd of avoiding to opponents and dates the timeline back to 99. Also, Floyd was the one stuck on it because he wouldnt take Spat's title in the RING. The 3 years later rehab offer is a sad reflection of the effect it had on Floyd.

Further, Floyd doesnt have 1/10the the character of any of the aforementioned athletes. He's a loudmouthed jerk with money, nothing more, nothing less. One, who openly disrespects the accomplishments of great black athletes like SRL/SRR etc. and the sport itself. Like I said, its the fame and money that the kids look up to and not the character of the man. Thats HYPE, not real and lasting popularity. I love hip-hop and have been down since the beginning, yet much(NOT ALL) of what comes out today is GARBAGE because it has been corrupted with the bling, hype, and money above all attitude, rather than substance and quality. Without significant changes in character?? Mayweather's 'respect' wont endure the test of time, despite what some in the black community feel. Dare i say, that those so called 'uncle toms' are far, far, far more respected TODAY. I'd also add that you are showing a generational bias when you speak of who 'black folk" name as their favorite fighters. Hell Leonard, Hearns, Whitaker, and Pryor all earn more respect as well despite going through their own issues. They didnt shit on the sport and everyone in it while avoiding tough fights like Primadonna Boy.

As for Chico, yeah he called him out but THE TIMING of the fight was again another Floyd chosen CHERRY. Like I said, I hope Mayweather has the heart to reverse the trend and fight the best as REAL CHAMPIONS ALWAYS HAVE:good I hope he does!!!

[C Money]

And C money. Floyd hits the gym all the time. Not spars in the boxing gym or does his boxing routine. That is absurb. He goes out and parties the night away more so then any other fighter. His normal training camp is 2 months so if it was 3 months after his last fight and 3 months before his next. I bet whatever he has not been in that ring for the last 3 months and he looked heavy as well he got cocky and got beat up. He was not in fighting form as was spadafora who was in traing camp. Thats why they call it training camp. Most fighters exercise like regular folk but they do not go in the boxing ring unless they are in training camp. When floyd is off of work.. he really does not go in the ring and spar and all that. with who...for what..you think he has sparring partners laying around that he just calls up and says meet me in the ring so he can beat them up when he does not have a fight scheduled..come on.


Give it up:good Make any excuse YOU LIKE but it was PBF and camp that went SEARCHING for Spadafora and knew he was less than two weeks from a defense. So, how stupid would they have had to be? To wake floyd up after partying all night and bring him down to the gym??:lol: C'mon man, they arent stupid. They thought they had an easy mark and it's a common strategy of theirs to test it in the gym. They did the same with Judah before PBF faced him. Funny that, that "sparring" went floyd's way, and WA LAH....they made the fight, EVEN AFTER JUDAH LOST TO BALDOMIR:D

If it was all about the 'off day"'?? It shouldnt have taken 3 years and rehab to attempt it FOR REAL.:yep

[platnumpapi]

Really, reading here all I hear is that Floyd is going to take Hatton to school, box circles around him, make a fool out of him, etc.

Then the very next sentence is, ¨hell yeah the fight got made¨.

Can one of the Floyd Boys or someone intimately associated with their ongoings explain this to me please. If I didnt think the opponent of my favorite fighter had a chance in hell, and I knew my favorite fighter had only a few more fights, I would want another fight, you know for his ´legacy´.

becuase you have people out here that think hatton has the tools to beat floyd.

so 1 hattons is prime and undeafeated, according to you and posters like you, pbf has not fought a prime fighter since um i dont know when but i would have sayed since judah.

hattons is top pound 10 guy right, and even though pbf fans think hatton dont have a chance.hatton feels and his followers have a hell of a chance, he just koed castillo with a body shot ouch !

so pbf fans can rubb it in the faces of the people who wanted him to lose.and hattons is a prime fighter only 28 so pbf should fight him for that alone.

[Lance_Uppercut]

I'm way beyond the Spadafora issue, but it was the beginning of whats become a pattern for Floyd of avoiding to opponents and dates the timeline back to 99. Also, Floyd was the one stuck on it because he wouldnt take Spat's title in the RING. The 3 years later rehab offer is a sad reflection of the effect it had on Floyd.

Further, Floyd doesnt have 1/10the the character of any of the aforementioned athletes. He's a loudmouthed jerk with money, nothing more, nothing less. One, who openly disrespects the accomplishments of great black athletes like SRL/SRR etc. and the sport itself. Like I said, its the fame and money that the kids look up to and not the character of the man. Thats HYPE, not real and lasting popularity. I love hip-hop and have been down since the beginning, yet much(NOT ALL) of what comes out today is GARBAGE because it has been corrupted with the bling, hype, and money above all attitude, rather than substance and quality. Without significant changes in character?? Mayweather's 'respect' wont endure the test of time, despite what some in the black community feel. Dare i say, that those so called 'uncle toms' are far, far, far more respected TODAY. I'd also add that you are showing a generational bias when you speak of who 'black folk" name as their favorite fighters. Hell Leonard, Hearns, Whitaker, and Pryor all earn more respect as well despite going through their own issues. They didnt shit on the sport and everyone in it while avoiding tough fights like Primadonna Boy.

As for Chico, yeah he called him out but THE TIMING of the fight was again another Floyd chosen CHERRY. Like I said, I hope Mayweather has the heart to reverse the trend and fight the best as REAL CHAMPIONS ALWAYS HAVE:good I hope he does!!!

Excellent post. Sometimes I think the Mayweather fans, and a lot of other fans in general today, are more interested in bling and what the money might bring them, then the person. It's why assholes like Vick, Terrell Owens, Bonds, Judah, Pac Man jones and any other loud mouth has fans.

[Relentless]

why do pbf fans try to act like pbf?? gimp c is your life style so flashy?

[Lance_Uppercut]

why do pbf fans try to act like pbf?? gimp c is your life style so flashy?

They want to be him, plain and simple. And if they can't, they want to have homosexual realtions with him. :lol: OK, not really. They are just morons...

What I want to know is why do 95% of all the Mayweather fanboys make all these threads WORRYING about what posters MIGHT SAY IN THE FUTURE, then act as if they said it?

"If Floyd wins beats Hatton, all the hater will say..."

"If Floyd beats Margarito, all the haters will say...."

Is it really a bid surprise that these children cannot debate ANYTHING involving Floyd?

[Toopretty]

why do pbf fans try to act like pbf?? gimp c is your life style so flashy?

Most young black males see floyd everyday. Got a best friend that is Floyd. Fought a guy like floyd at the club. Floyd has a very normal and ordinary personality to us. He is just....normal. I mean he is over the top, a little corny. But he fits right in. He is down, his car game is no joke. I mean you got the average black inner city or even mid city guy in the barbershop talking shit, reading RIM magazines looking at Floyds fleet of cars and other famous rich blacks. Admiring. All would do the same if they were in that position. I mean when floyd was on 24/7 you seen ignorance. We seen us. I mean shit aint serious all the time. Any guy I know makes jokes about ODH and how he seems dry and lame. I mean.. Thats just us. Black folk are flashy. Majority. You would be hard pressed to see somebody that is not impressed with floss. Dont you know dudes sit around thinking of ways or go out there and do anything just to get the type of shit floyd got. I mean dudes are trying to be ballers. Your whole life you are trying to reach baller status. That is the times. That is what it is. We look at floyd as a baller. I mean he is a baller that worked hard for what he got. He is a damned role model for young guys. I mean he aint just rich for no reason. He worked extra hard at boxing. Since he was a kid. You guys dont respect that. WE DO

[Toopretty]

They want to be him, plain and simple. And if they can't, they want to have homosexual realtions with him. :lol: OK, not really. They are just morons...

What I want to know is why do 95% of all the Mayweather fanboys make all these threads WORRYING about what posters MIGHT SAY IN THE FUTURE, then act as if they said it?

"If Floyd wins beats Hatton, all the hater will say..."

"If Floyd beats Margarito, all the haters will say...."

Is it really a bid surprise that these children cannot debate ANYTHING involving Floyd?


Just shut the fuck up.. taken from a margarito dick rider...:admin

[Relentless]

Most young black males see floyd everyday. Got a best friend that is Floyd. Fought a guy like floyd at the club. Floyd has a very normal and ordinary personality to us. He is just....normal. I mean he is over the top, a little corny. But he fits right in. He is down, his car game is no joke. I mean you got the average black inner city or even mid city guy in the barbershop talking shit, reading RIM magazines looking at Floyds fleet of cars and other famous rich blacks. Admiring. All would do the same if they were in that position. I mean when floyd was on 24/7 you seen ignorance. We seen us. I mean shit aint serious all the time. Any guy I know makes jokes about ODH and how he seems dry and lame. I mean.. Thats just us. Black folk are flashy. Majority. You would be hard pressed to see somebody that is not impressed with floss. Dont you know dudes sit around thinking of ways or go out there and do anything just to get the type of shit floyd got. I mean dudes are trying to be ballers. Your whole life you are trying to reach baller status. That is the times. That is what it is. We look at floyd as a baller. I mean he is a baller that worked hard for what he got. He is a damned role model for young guys. I mean he aint just rich for no reason. He worked extra hard at boxing. Since he was a kid. You guys dont respect that. WE DO

so what are you trying to say??:huh

that all black males are like this:huh ??

[Lance_Uppercut]

Just shut the fuck up.. taken from a margarito dick rider...:admin

How am I a Margarito dick rider? Did I ever call him the best ever? DId I say he's a top P4P fighter? Hell, I never even called him the REAL WW champ, only a titleholder, which he was. You're only trying to call me that because you have nothing else to say. IF you had an education, and the ability to comprehend simple english, you might no that. Instead you're just an ignorant, uneducated shit talker.

[Toopretty]

You clowns act like floyd never fought great in the amateurs never trained for a fight a day in his life. Never fought a risky fighter. Like he is the Paris Hilton of boxing. And if you a fan of Floyd its something wrong with that. But you can be a fan of Mosley and it is ok. Fuck off. get out of here. Boxing is a sport. And if it is your favorite sport you are going to have a favorite fighter. A lot of people like football. But they think there favorite team will beat any team and find some rationale to back it up. That is sports. It aint like guys are on here talking about what floyd does outside the ring. Every poster posts nothing but boxing views. At least the so called floyd boys.lol The other idiots talk about the extra shit women beating, how he talks and throwing money. I dont give a fuck about that. Its about in the ring.

[Lance_Uppercut]

so what are you trying to say??:huh

that all black males are like this:huh ??


Thank god not all black males act like Floyd, or post like toopetty. Toopetty, if black, is probably the kind of black man respected black people of the US pray for see as a part of the problem with how blacks are percieved. Fuckin shame is what it is. Would rather have bling then an education...:-(

[Toopretty]

How am I a Margarito dick rider? Did I ever call him the best ever? DId I say he's a top P4P fighter? Hell, I never even called him the REAL WW champ, only a titleholder, which he was. You're only trying to call me that because you have nothing else to say. IF you had an education, and the ability to comprehend simple english, you might no that. Instead you're just an ignorant, uneducated shit talker.

I will correct your I am an ingnorant more educated shit talker then you. You talk nothing but shit. Have you even read the compulsive non-boxing but str8 up personal shit that you post. Again, just shut the fuck up.

[Lance_Uppercut]

You clowns act like floyd never fought great in the amateurs never trained for a fight a day in his life. Never fought a risky fighter. Like he is the Paris Hilton of boxing. And if you a fan of Floyd its something wrong with that. But you can be a fan of Mosley and it is ok. Fuck off. get out of here. Boxing is a sport. And if it is your favorite sport you are going to have a favorite fighter. A lot of people like football. But they think there favorite team will beat any team and find some rationale to back it up. That is sports. It aint like guys are on here talking about what floyd does outside the ring. Every poster posts nothing but boxing views. At least the so called floyd boys.lol The other idiots talk about the extra shit women beating, how he talks and throwing money. I dont give a fuck about that. Its about in the ring.

:lol::lol::patsch

You're dumbass hasn't been here long enough to make that statement. If anything, it's his dedication that many like me, and others, respect greatly. You think you dicovered Floyd? Hell no, you're a johnny-come-lately like all the other Fanboys on this board. I'm proud to say I watched Floyd right from the beginning. You just started the past couple years obviously....

[Toopretty]

so what are you trying to say??:huh

that all black males are like this:huh ??


:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl the first two sentences say that a lot of black young males act just like floyd. Period. He is not some bizzaro guy that is just hated. He is normal is what I am saying. Very fucking normal. Nobody I have ever talked to say..."he is ghetto trash", he is this he is that. B/c he is fucking NORMAL.

[platnumpapi]

Most young black males see floyd everyday. Got a best friend that is Floyd. Fought a guy like floyd at the club. Floyd has a very normal and ordinary personality to us. He is just....normal. I mean he is over the top, a little corny. But he fits right in. He is down, his car game is no joke. I mean you got the average black inner city or even mid city guy in the barbershop talking shit, reading RIM magazines looking at Floyds fleet of cars and other famous rich blacks. Admiring. All would do the same if they were in that position. I mean when floyd was on 24/7 you seen ignorance. We seen us. I mean shit aint serious all the time. Any guy I know makes jokes about ODH and how he seems dry and lame. I mean.. Thats just us. Black folk are flashy. Majority. You would be hard pressed to see somebody that is not impressed with floss. Dont you know dudes sit around thinking of ways or go out there and do anything just to get the type of shit floyd got. I mean dudes are trying to be ballers. Your whole life you are trying to reach baller status. That is the times. That is what it is. We look at floyd as a baller. I mean he is a baller that worked hard for what he got. He is a damned role model for young guys. I mean he aint just rich for no reason. He worked extra hard at boxing. Since he was a kid. You guys dont respect that. WE DO



i like pbf becuase he speaks from the heart, some fighters thik the same way pbf thinks they just dont have the balls to say it.if he is right or wrong it dont matter he sayed what he felt in his heart at the time so i respect him for that.

he is not a puppet like alot fighters are, he is not yes sir no sir type of fighter, he is more of a fuck you pay me type of fighter :D .

to all his haters just be glad a guy like pbf comes around ever so often more like once a BLUE MOON get it blue moon :rofl :patsch :rasta

[aliwasthegreatest]

for me its the what if factor. i don't think hatton has a chance. but IF he's as good as some people think he is it could be a great fight. thats what i'm happy it'll happen. and if he doesn't do the fight someone will say he ducked him so it gets that outa the way.

[Toopretty]

:lol::lol::patsch

You're dumbass hasn't been here long enough to make that statement. If anything, it's his dedication that many like me, and others, respect greatly. You think you dicovered Floyd? Hell no, you're a johnny-come-lately like all the other Fanboys on this board. I'm proud to say I watched Floyd right from the beginning. You just started the past couple years obviously....

Bitch I been following boxing especially fucking up coming black boxers forever. What the fuck are you talking about. I been knew who the fuck floyd was....during the amateurs. fuck you UK garbage. Johnny come lately:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl the fuck. You dont know shit. We been talking about Prettyboy Floyd and Zab since the mid 90s. They were like up coming college basketball players and football players that you knew were going to the nfl and nba..you dont know shit about black sports..we been knew.. Black folk in the city..we dont just sling dope and shoot people. We like sports 2:hi: lol... and we focus more on the young guys then when the guys that actually made it. Me and floyd are the same age. Get the fuck out of here. :tired:tired

[platnumpapi]

for me its the what if factor. i don't think hatton has a chance. but IF he's as good as some people think he is it could be a great fight. thats what i'm happy it'll happen. and if he doesn't do the fight someone will say he ducked him so it gets that outa the way.



the what if factor huh :-(

If if was a 5th we would all be drunk :rasta :!: :nut :patsch

[Lance_Uppercut]

Bitch I been following boxing especially fucking up coming black boxers forever. What the fuck are you talking about. I been knew who the fuck floyd was....during the amateurs. fuck you UK garbage. Johnny come lately:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl the fuck. You dont know shit. We been talking about Prettyboy Floyd and Zab since the mid 90s. They were like up coming college basketball players and football players that you knew were going to the nfl and nba..you dont know shit about black sports..we been knew.. Black folk in the city..we dont just sling dope and shoot people. We like sports 2:hi: lol... and we focus more on the young guys then when the guys that actually made it. Me and floyd are the same age. Get the fuck out of here. :tired:tired

Jesus....you're a fuckin embaressment. You make ZERO sense, and you don't even try to dispute the post you're replying to. Learn how to use a mesage board. And go to college bitch.:deal:thumbsup

[Toopretty]

You know...the US aint that big. When you are in high school college you are into sports like fucking crazy and you know who is who and what is what. Especially being in the city and everybody is linked to somebody somewhere. You were looking at this shit through a telescope. years late..Homer simpson avatar having clown. To be fucking honest with you, I was cool with a dude that was in the amateurs and into boxing. He was kind of a cornball but he would whoop my ass so a socialized with him anyway. He was always talking about judah/floyd and alot of the guys in the mix now. That same dude got me into boxing. I started to go to the amateur fights here locally then the pro fights that was in fucking high school. Floyd had hype back then...lol

[Toopretty]

This lance uppercut clown is talking shit like I could not have ran across floyd fighting in my hometown or zab(who did and I was there). Like his 5th or 6th fight. Local fights cost like 20 dollars.lol and many big names been through here..lol or up the block. Thats like saying I dont know who Sharmba is though I seen him like a million times years ago. Or even Rahman..lol

[Lance_Uppercut]

This lance uppercut clown is talking shit like I could not have ran across floyd fighting in my hometown or zab(who did and I was there). Like his 5th or 6th fight. Local fights cost like 20 dollars.lol and many big names been through here..lol or up the block. Thats like saying I dont know who Sharmba is though I seen him like a million times years ago. Or even Rahman..lol

Who are you talking to? "This Lance Uppercut clown..."...what, are you reporting? You're a joke dude. An uneducated joke. Go get a GED, stop being a loser, and go to college. Make your family proud, not ashamed their son is a punk ass wannabe.

[aliwasthegreatest]

i have a GED i didn't realize having a GED was such a bad thing :( and here i was happy with myself....fuck

[Toopretty]

Who are you talking to? "This Lance Uppercut clown..."...what, are you reporting? You're a joke dude. An uneducated joke. Go get a GED, stop being a loser, and go to college. Make your family proud, not ashamed their son is a punk ass wannabe.


ahahah I went to Morgan state bitch, shut the fuck up. For real. I probably got I better job then you. I have always been smart. I have went to all the best schools here in Bmore that you cant just get in to. You are a dumb shit talking euro piece of shit to me. Fuck out of here. And you dont know shit about boxing. Get a boxing education then come back and rap to me.. Homo.

[Leeroy]

Bitch I been following boxing especially fucking up coming black boxers forever. What the fuck are you talking about. I been knew who the fuck floyd was....during the amateurs. fuck you UK garbage. Johnny come lately:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl the fuck. You dont know shit. We been talking about Prettyboy Floyd and Zab since the mid 90s. They were like up coming college basketball players and football players that you knew were going to the nfl and nba..you dont know shit about black sports..we been knew.. Black folk in the city..we dont just sling dope and shoot people. We like sports 2:hi: lol... and we focus more on the young guys then when the guys that actually made it. Me and floyd are the same age. Get the fuck out of here. :tired:tired

It took me 10 minutes to read this post.

[Toopretty]

He is worse then a hillbilly telling me about "BIG city" life..lol

Like a maintenance man telling me how to build a rocket.

You have not said one inkling of anything to show me up or show you have all this boxing knowledge.

Str8 up clown

[Toopretty]

It took me 10 minutes to read this post.

I bet [Only registered and activated users can see links]

[KO Boxing]

Floyd wins, and wins easy...

The reason why Floyd fans still want this fight is to shut up all those destractors and doubters. The 3 most common names are Hatton, Mosely and Cotto. And out of those 3, for Floyd, Hatton is arguably the biggest money fight.

So: pick up a ring title at 140 (the only one missing), get a top young prime undefeated fighter on your record, and shut up many of the doubters...

THAT'S WHY!

:good

[C Money]

Most young black males see floyd everyday. Got a best friend that is Floyd. Fought a guy like floyd at the club. Floyd has a very normal and ordinary personality to us. He is just....normal. I mean he is over the top, a little corny. But he fits right in. He is down, his car game is no joke. I mean you got the average black inner city or even mid city guy in the barbershop talking shit, reading RIM magazines looking at Floyds fleet of cars and other famous rich blacks. Admiring. All would do the same if they were in that position. I mean when floyd was on 24/7 you seen ignorance. We seen us. I mean shit aint serious all the time. Any guy I know makes jokes about ODH and how he seems dry and lame. I mean.. Thats just us. Black folk are flashy. Majority. You would be hard pressed to see somebody that is not impressed with floss. Dont you know dudes sit around thinking of ways or go out there and do anything just to get the type of shit floyd got. I mean dudes are trying to be ballers. Your whole life you are trying to reach baller status. That is the times. That is what it is. We look at floyd as a baller. I mean he is a baller that worked hard for what he got. He is a damned role model for young guys. I mean he aint just rich for no reason. He worked extra hard at boxing. Since he was a kid. You guys dont respect that. WE DO

You just illustrated my point about Money and Bling vs Character:good

Why is Floyd silver spoon?? Because his FAMILY is deep in boxing experience and learned the game the HARD WAY. They looked out and put little Floyd on the fast track to MONEY. If you saw the 24/7 you know Floyd didnt have ANY CHOICE but to box, he wasnt even allowed to play other sports. SR. MOLDED him into a fighter and Roger assisted. Even in the amateurs, every and any where you saw Floyd?/ You saw BLING, clothes, and attitude. They guided Floyd into deals that many fighters didnt have through who they were in the sport. That shit was GIVEN more than earned. Thing is?? THAT AINT RESPECT!!!!! It's MONEY and they are two TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS. That doesnt make him a role model:lol:

Now, Floyd worked hard, but GUESS WHAT??? SO DO MANY OTHER's!!!

[KO Boxing]

You just illustrated my point about Money and Bling vs Character:good

Why is Floyd silver spoon?? Because his FAMILY is deep in boxing experience and learned the game the HARD WAY. They looked out and put little Floyd on the fast track to MONEY. If you saw the 24/7 you know Floyd didnt have ANY CHOICE but to box, he wasnt even allowed to play other sports. SR. MOLDED him into a fighter and Roger assisted. Even in the amateurs, every and any where you saw Floyd?/ You saw BLING, clothes, and attitude. They guided Floyd into deals that many fighters didnt have through who they were in the sport. That shit was GIVEN more than earned. Thing is?? THAT AINT RESPECT!!!!! It's MONEY and they are two TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS. That doesnt make him a role model:lol:

Now, Floyd worked hard, but GUESS WHAT??? SO DO MANY OTHER's!!!
Floyd woulda gotten to where he is today with or without his dad or uncle. It's a combination of hard word, and pure undeniable natural ability.

[C Money]

Floyd woulda gotten to where he is today with or without his dad or uncle. It's a combination of hard word, and pure undeniable natural ability.

He may have risen on ability, BUT HE DAMN SURE wouldnt have made the money he's made or gotten the promotional deals he did FROM EARLY ON!!!!!!!!!

Lets see Floyd start fighting the best AND SHOW US HOW FANTASTIC HE REALLY IS!!!!!!! Hatton's the right first step, hope he continues.

[KO Boxing]

He may have risen on ability, BUT HE DAMN SURE wouldnt have made the money he's made or gotten the promotional deals he did FROM EARLY ON!!!!!!!!!

Lets see Floyd start fighting the best AND SHOW US HOW FANTASTIC HE REALLY IS!!!!!!! Hatton's the right first step, hope he continues.
So you started watching boxing in 2005?

Floyd's resume at superfeather and lightweight is EXTREMELY impressive.

Fighter of the year 98, destruction of Corrales in 2000, (prime) Castillo TWICE in 2001, had Hatton run from him at light-welter a few years back, schooled Judah at welter, and Dela Hoya at light middle.

In reality, the kid doesn't have to prove ANYTHING. Least to a bunch of message board posters on a site dominated by non-Americans

[C Money]

So you started watching boxing in 2005?

Floyd's resume at superfeather and lightweight is EXTREMELY impressive.

Fighter of the year 98, destruction of Corrales in 2000, (prime) Castillo TWICE in 2001, had Hatton run from him at light-welter a few years back, schooled Judah at welter, and Dela Hoya at light middle.

In reality, the kid doesn't have to prove ANYTHING. Least to a bunch of message board posters on a site dominated by non-Americans

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Try 1977!!!!!! and seen many fights before that date ON TAPE/DVD SINCE:good And I'm american. You have just shown you're ass and are typing out of it.


What the FUCK does that have to do with whats being said???? FLOYD WAS CATERED AND PAMPERED BY HIS FAMILY FROM THE CRIB ON!!!!!!
He would not have gotten the promotional deals or made the money he's made WITHOUT his family influence!!


Learn to READ and keep coherent debate OR STFU!!!! And spare me the great accomplishments of Floyd!! He's hasnt fought the toughest opponents at any weight, Casamayor at 30, Spadafora at 35(who beat the tar outta Floyd in the gym), Hatton at 40, AND 47 IS STACKED AND WAITING(SSM, Cotto, and Williams)!!!

I give credit to Floyd for finally making a fight with hatton, its a nice first step towards redemption, if he gets the W.

[Toopretty]

C money.Spadafora is nobody at 135. He only did not fight Old man Casamayor or Frietas Everybody else is eliminated. Spadafora has fought nothing but nobodies and is a local fighter only. You are one funny guy to keep bringing him up though. Like he is a ranked contender or a real champ or something.

[C Money]

C money.Spadafora is nobody at 135. He only did not fight Old man Casamayor or Frietas Everybody else is eliminated. Spadafora has fought nothing but nobodies and is a local fighter only. You are one funny guy to keep bringing him up though. Like he is a ranked contender or a real champ or something.

He was the IBF Champ BEFORE PBF hit 35 and just like PBF was the BC Champ. Like I said he dominated PBF back in 99 after Floyd came looking for him thinking it's an easy mark. Also goes to my point of slick southpaw's being difficult and Floyd took 3 years and waited until Spadafora hit rehab before making an OFFER. Gee whiz, I guess he'd have a REAL NAME on his record if floyd hadnt gotten abused huh???


Real Champions make real statements and FIGHT THE TOP GUY"S IN THEIR DIVISIONS!!! That's the history of sport and champions.

Again, hatton is the first step and I hope that Floyd has the balls to rectify the situation and right the wrongs, SSM, Cotto, and Williams are out there for NEXT:good

[Toopretty]

Well I do agree that floyds weakness is southpaws and Paul was not a bad fighter but you cant dwell on that when they both fought the same guys but floyd beat the guys more convincingly and went on to fight Castillo twice and corrales on top of that. Paul never even made it to that level of fighter. He is a paper champ. A guy that had a belt but never fought anybody. Floyd fought the top guys in 130-135 and thats were he spent majority of his boxing career. So your argument is stuck in mud.

[C Money]

Well I do agree that floyds weakness is southpaws and Paul was not a bad fighter but you cant dwell on that when they both fought the same guys but floyd beat the guys more convincingly and went on to fight Castillo twice and corrales on top of that. Paul never even made it to that level of fighter. He is a paper champ. A guy that had a belt but never fought anybody. Floyd fought the top guys in 130-135 and thats were he spent majority of his boxing career. So your argument is stuck in mud.

As i said, had Floyd manned up?? You're argument would be false!! Dorin would have given him two of the Big 3 belts, yet the dowmward spiral had begun before that fight and it showed in that performance.

If you want an honest opinion??? Spadafora's promoter was/has been content to make fights and make money while not taking his shot as that meANS SPLIT MONEY(with other promoters) and greed and profit can be a powerful aphrodisiac. They always wanted the big kahuna Tuna mayweather but they didnt want him.

Given Spats circumstances??? I expect that they will FINALLY take a shot when/If(he certainly SHOULD based on the evidence) get back out. Anytime Floyd wants to PROVE what a fluke it was?? Spat's ready, willing, and ABLE to shut the Primadonna's mouth ONCE AND FOR ALL:good
Again, that incident was JUST THE BEGINNING of the overall scenario which has seen Floyd avoid top opponents. PBF might be starting to REVERSE that trend with hatton and I hope that's the case.

BTW?? Spat didnt fight the top guys at 30 and anything below 35 was too light for him. Its also a major reason why he didnt make th olympics as they pushed him to feather and he was far too drained at that weight. He's actually better suited to 40 given his frame.

[kg0208]

I don't know who isn't giving Hatton a chance. I certainly do....especially if he comes in at his 140 fighting weight.

[C Money]

I don't know who isn't giving Hatton a chance. I certainly do....especially if he comes in at his 140 fighting weight.

It's only the die-hard PBF Cheerleading Groupie Squad that gives hatton NO CHANCE and expects a BLOWOUT for Floyd:lol:

I can see it going either way, but it WILL NOT BE EASY, by any stretch of the imagination:good

[kg0208]

It's only the die-hard PBF Cheerleading Groupie Squad that gives hatton NO CHANCE and expects a BLOWOUT for Floyd:lol:

I can see it going either way, but it WILL NOT BE EASY, by any stretch of the imagination:good

Well Hatton is a good fighter with a relentless style. He can get inside on PBF and put some pressure on his forcing him to up his workrate and therefore leave himself open. If he cannot keep up with him and get to the body, he may get cut to ribbons.

Interestingly enough, I am not sure Hatton will be the stronger fighter. He hits harder than PBF. But strength and power are not the same, and I have seen PBF stand his ground and shove some guys around. I think he has alot of strenght in those legs judging from his calf muscles.

[bigtime9]

Given Spats circumstances??? I expect that they will FINALLY take a shot when/If(he certainly SHOULD based on the evidence) get back out. Anytime Floyd wants to PROVE what a fluke it was?? Spat's ready, willing, and ABLE to shut the Primadonna's mouth ONCE AND FOR ALL:good
Again, that incident was JUST THE BEGINNING of the overall scenario which has seen Floyd avoid top opponents

you are so fucking delusional..spadafora:lol: is he going to the hall of fame. How many ring titles or champions has he fought.:admin Why would floyd give spaddy a payday, he is a drunk, drug addicted piece of shit who belongs in jail. :hat

[Lance_Uppercut]

you are so fucking delusional..spadafora:lol: is he going to the hall of fame. How many ring titles or champions has he fought.:admin Why would floyd give spaddy a payday, he is a drunk, drug addicted piece of shit who belongs in jail. :hat
I don't klnow who's more stupid, you or toopetty....No, it's you. You're comepletely illogical, and a liar. 6 Masters degrees?

[C Money]

you are so fucking delusional..spadafora:lol: is he going to the hall of fame. How many ring titles or champions has he fought.:admin Why would floyd give spaddy a payday, he is a drunk, drug addicted piece of shit who belongs in jail. :hat


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Th resident Troll weigh's in!!! Thanks Fagtime, now that you've spoken, the future has been made CLEAR:rofl :rofl :rofl

You're Ring Champ at 35 was too scared UNTIL HE HEARD Spat was in rehab, so what's THAT saying??


:lol: :lol: :lol:


:finger :finger :finger

[C Money]

I don't klnow who's more stupid, you or toopetty....No, it's you. You're comepletely illogical, and a liar. 6 Masters degrees?

You hit it Lance!!:good

Too Pretty has a PHD in boxing compared to TOTALLY FAGTIME GONE WILD!!!!!

Plus, underneath all the shit talking?? There seems to be a shred of reason in Too Pretty, where as Fagtime 99 is a total and UTTER waste of space.:yep :yep

[Lance_Uppercut]

You hit it Lance!!:good

Too Pretty has a PHD in boxing compared to TOTALLY FAGTIME GONE WILD!!!!!

Plus, underneath all the shit talking?? There seems to be a shred of reason in Too Pretty, where as Fagtime 99 is a total and UTTER waste of space.:yep :yep

Yeah, fagtime69 is way worse. Gee with 6 Masters degrees, you'd think it would be the other way around.:hey

[kg0208]

Because they know it an easy fight for their fighter, Floyd fans dont care about their fighter actually having to prove himself, they just was him to keep taking easy fights.

The sad part of it all, in 10 years there are going to be posts like "Floyd was unbeatable in his PRIME".:-( and people are going to agree and those of us who disagree and feel he was a "cherry picker" will be called haters.

It's RJJ all over agin.

LMAO....please, stop making a fool of yourself with the RJJ agenda.

[C Money]

Yeah, fagtime69 is way worse. Gee with 6 Masters degrees, you'd think it would be the other way around.:hey

Somehow, I missed the six master's degree's of seperation!!!:lol: :lol:

I find it unimaginable that this clown has even an undergraduate degree:huh

He's the smelliest turd around with absolutely no reasoning, boxing knowledge, or debate skills. What's this world coming too?? :-( :-( :-(

[Lance_Uppercut]

Somehow, I missed the six master's degree's of seperation!!!:lol: :lol:

I find it unimaginable that this clown has even an undergraduate degree:huh

He's the smelliest turd around with absolutely no reasoning, boxing knowledge, or debate skills. What's this world coming too?? :-( :-( :-(

Back when Bigtime was following Radar around like a lap dog, he claimed to be a super intelligent black man with 6 Masters degrees. Yeah, true story...:patsch

[C Money]

LMAO....please, stop making a fool of yourself with the RJJ agenda.

Dont take offense, but I think that Dipper is to a DEGREE referring to the group of GROUPIES that cling to the UNdefeated fighter and disappear when the 0 goes. In that regard?? I agree wholeheartedly:yep

Now, you are a real jones fan and such doesnt apply. I know that you two have you're own argument agenda but there is something to his point. Many, many, many groupies with Fruad cum on their lips and greased fingertips will dissappear like Dexy's Midnight runners(Come on Eileen) when the 0 goes.

[C Money]

Back when Bigtime was following Radar around like a lap dog, he claimed to be a super intelligent black man with 6 Masters degrees. Yeah, true story...:patsch\

UGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!:good


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

God help us all!!!

[samita]

Because Hatton is hype. Alot of people think he's actually a great fighter so Floyd will get credit for beating him even though he's not that great at all. He's good at best but no where near great. And Floyd will also make alot of money for easy work too.

thats exactly why all the floyd nuthuggers want to see him fight hatton:
1) floyd will easily beat him
2) ricky got a great fanbase and is very popular and overhyped, so a win against him would further improve floyd's legacy.

cheap shitty way to builld your legacy i believe. fight the best motherfucker

[kg0208]

Whatever.

Floyd is following the RJJ blueprint down to a "T". In RJJ day, most serious boxing fans used to feel that RJJ was a cherrypicker the same way most serious boxing fans feel that way about Floyd. The problem is there are a lot more casual fans than serious fans, and they get all wowed by the flashy style and look at the W and L's and just say "Wow this guy is unstoppable, he just beat Oscar De La Hoya, he must be great!!!"

Now most seroius fans know, that Oscar was already on the slide and he is getting old, but dont tell that to the casual fan. They only know the big names, they see the stats and film clips and they get blown away. Roy has built his career the same way. He cherry picked fights, he fought big names, but only when the were on the slide and out of prime. Most of his film clips come from him beating up bums, dishwashers, substitute teachers, garbagemen and dirty cops. And the only time he would fight someone in his prime was unless they were tailor made for his style, the same as Floyd. Now, you dont know all this because you are proably young and weren't around when Roy 1st started, but I followed him since the Olympics, and up until he made the mistake of accepting a fight with Antonio Tarver, Roy had not had a seriuos opponent since 1993.

He wasn't out of prime, he just finally fucked up and picked the wrong one.
I won't argue with you. It's an argument you have lost to often to bear repeating. Until you can name all the bums he fought, then you should stop mentioning it. Remember, Tarver got his shot fighting those same guys.

I will say this to one of your tremendously dumb points. If Jones had not had a serious opponent until Tarver since 1993, then what was Harding? You know, the guy who beat Tarver to get a title shot vs Jones?

BTW, Jones defended his LHW belt far more than PBF has defended his recent titles. Jones didn't cherry pick at LHW. Or even SMW.

[Lance_Uppercut]

A win over Hatton would be very good and another notch for Floyd's career whether anyone thinks Hatton is overhyped or overrated.

[Pimp C]

Most young black males see floyd everyday. Got a best friend that is Floyd. Fought a guy like floyd at the club. Floyd has a very normal and ordinary personality to us. He is just....normal. I mean he is over the top, a little corny. But he fits right in. He is down, his car game is no joke. I mean you got the average black inner city or even mid city guy in the barbershop talking shit, reading RIM magazines looking at Floyds fleet of cars and other famous rich blacks. Admiring. All would do the same if they were in that position. I mean when floyd was on 24/7 you seen ignorance. We seen us. I mean shit aint serious all the time. Any guy I know makes jokes about ODH and how he seems dry and lame. I mean.. Thats just us. Black folk are flashy. Majority. You would be hard pressed to see somebody that is not impressed with floss. Dont you know dudes sit around thinking of ways or go out there and do anything just to get the type of shit floyd got. I mean dudes are trying to be ballers. Your whole life you are trying to reach baller status. That is the times. That is what it is. We look at floyd as a baller. I mean he is a baller that worked hard for what he got. He is a damned role model for young guys. I mean he aint just rich for no reason. He worked extra hard at boxing. Since he was a kid. You guys dont respect that. WE DO
Excellent post!:good
I tried telling this to them a few months back but they just don't understand.:-( A lot of young blacks are flashy talk shit and admire PBF.

[pit]

Floyd was never Hatton's Mandatory...so how did he rob him? And before you say he didn't need to be a mandatory, explain WHY he fought Brusseles to get to Gatti chump.
true floyd was not ricky manitory but was the biggest fight 140, not to mention rickey put floyd' s name in his mouth.
:lol: :lol:
Who else was suppose to beside gatti and brueles, if the top guys at 140 refuse to fights him? It taken rickey 2 years and 5 tuneup too get ready for this fight. But yet again I guess this floyd's fault right? :lol: :lol: