Things I learned from watching HBO Boxing Tonight.

[Flatlander]

Thing #1. Fast forward is a great thing to have when Bornard is fighting.

Thing #2. Vernon Forrest fights 100% better with a good left elbow and shoulder.

Thing #3. Forrest would beat Mayorga every time. With a good left shoulder and elbow.

Thing #4. Forrest would kill either Hopkins or Wright.

Thing #5. Forrest could yet be a force at either jr. middle or middle weight.

Thing #6. Baldomir has a granite chin.

[compukiller]

Thing #1. Fast forward is a great thing to have when Bornard is fighting.

Thing #2. Vernon Forrest fights 100% better with a good left elbow and shoulder.

Thing #3. Forrest would beat Mayorga every time. With a good left shoulder and elbow.

Thing #4. Forrest would kill either Hopkins or Wright.

Thing #5. Forrest could yet be a force at either jr. middle or middle weight.


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[Rock0052]

You left out #7:

A counterpuncher's wet dream is a fight against a guy like Baldomir who never stops coming forward because they'll never look better than in a fight where they don't have to press the action.

[Flatlander]

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You are a fool.

[Rock0052]

And 8: Forrest still wouldn't beat Quartey in a rematch.

[compukiller]

You are a fool.

How do you expect Forrest to deal with BHOP at 175????

It is a ridiculous thought!!!:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[Flatlander]

You left out #7:

A counterpuncher's wet dream is a fight against a guy like Baldomir who never stops coming forward because they'll never look better than in a fight where they don't have to press the action.


:huh Forrest not only pressed the action. He kept sticking it into Baldomir's face all night.

[Amsterdam]

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[Flatlander]

How do you expect Forrest to deal with BHOP at 175????

It is a ridiculous thought!!!:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Hardly ridiculous. Forrest walks around at 180 and Hopkins has looked like crap for a long time.

[sues2nd]

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[JMonster]

lol at number 1. i agree w/ everything else u said but 4. i don't know about all that

[compukiller]

Hardly ridiculous. Forrest walks around at 180 and Hopkins has looked like crap for a long time.

BHOP is about as bad a style matchup as you can get for Vernon. And you are asking Vernon to jump 3 divsions???:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[JMonster]

AND i agree that he would NOT beat my boy Quartey

[Flatlander]

BHOP is about as bad a style matchup as you can get for Vernon. And you are asking Vernon to jump 3 divsions???:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

I am not asking him do anything but Wright and Hopkins are shot. Their fight was ugly.

[compukiller]

I am not asking him do anything but Wright and Hopkins are shot. Their fight was ugly.


Baldo was Tailor made for Vernon. Has anyone else looked great against Bhop or Wright?? They have two of the hardest styles to fight in the sport.

[Amsterdam]

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[bigtime9]

forrest is looking better then I have ever seen him. those injuries were legit. the time off really helped him. I would pay ppv to see him get redemption against mayorga.

[Rock0052]

:huh Forrest not only pressed the action. He kept sticking it into Baldomir's face all night.

Forrest fought backing up or movin away most of the fight and took advantage of Baldo jumping in and leaving himself open. There were a handful of instances that Vernon fought coming forward, but the reason that fight was exciting was because Baldomir kept coming forward and taking the shots. When Baldomir wasn't coming forward, there wasn't much going on. Vernon showed a little aggressiveness, but primarily counterpunched or threw a lead shot. It was effective, but he wasn't pressing the fight.

Don't get me wrong, Vernon clearly won the fight and accounted very well for himself- but let's not forget it was against a guy who fits his style perfectly.

[Rock0052]

AND i agree that he would NOT beat my boy Quartey

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[Axe]

Prime for prime Vernon wrecks Quartey. :deal

[Thor]

I am not asking him do anything but Wright and Hopkins are shot. Their fight was ugly.

Winky wasn't shot, he was 170 lbs and out of shape. Bernard isn't shot, he's 42 years old and fights ugly, but wins.

[Flatlander]

Winky wasn't shot, he was 170 lbs and out of shape. Bernard isn't shot, he's 42 years old and fights ugly, but wins.

In short they are both old and shot.

[boxbible]

Thing #3. Forrest would beat Mayorga every time. With a good left shoulder and elbow.

Not if he keeps stepping straight back all the time allowing Mayorga to jump in on him like that and whack him at will. Bad shoulder and elbow still doesn't mean you get spanked like that.

Two fights and he still couldn't figure that shit out. Lucky for him, Baldomir has only a regular pair of legs and can't cut the distance as quick as Mayorga does.

Maybe he'll get smart next time and use a wee bit of lateral movement.

But Winky and Hopkins will know exactly how to handle Forrest's jab-step back-and-counter style.

[brooklyn1550]

Thing #4. Forrest would kill either Hopkins or Wright.


The One Thing I learned from reading your thread:

You overrate Vernon Forrest big time

[C Money]

You did great with the first TWO. You're on you're own with the rest!!!


Vernon did flash the OLD VIPER again and it was wonderful to see such A CLASS ACT AND SOLID HUMAN BEING have a return to excellence:yep

Forrest is definitely a force to be reckoned with at 54 and given the current landscape there seems little to stop him from dominating.

Now, I'm a Vargas fan, but if Gayorga does pull the W, I would VERY MUCH LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY to see Vernon get a shot at redemption. He took a very big step this evening and OBVIOUSLY he's healthier than he's been in a while.:good

[Sister Sledge]

Vernon looked very good tonight. I would love to see him fight Mayorga or Mosely again(I don't think Shane would take the fight, though). He seems have come back from his injury woes. Hopefully he can bring some excitement to the 154 lb. class.

[Scar]

You are a fool.

You do realise that Forrest fought and lost to Mayorga TWICE, right? :huh

[joito3]

i was at the theater at msg when quartey whooped forrest ... forrest beating baldomir means nothing

[bladerunner]

and how did Baldomir who never fought at 154 get to fight for the vacant WBC title?

[teke]

BHOP is about as bad a style matchup as you can get for Vernon. And you are asking Vernon to jump 3 divsions???:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl:lol::lol::lol:

I think he is asking that. Vernon would get owned by Hopkins

[Ayatollah]

Forrest will rape Winky/Mosley/DLH (I don't know about bHop)

[PeterNielsen70]

:rofl Thing #1. Fast forward is a great thing to have when Bornard is fighting.

Thing #2. Vernon Forrest fights 100% better with a good left elbow and shoulder.

Thing #3. Forrest would beat Mayorga every time. With a good left shoulder and elbow.

Thing #4. Forrest would kill either Hopkins or Wright.

Thing #5. Forrest could yet be a force at either jr. middle or middle weight.

Thing #6. Baldomir has a granite chin.

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[younghov2k4]

Thing #1. Fast forward is a great thing to have when Bornard is fighting.

Thing #2. Vernon Forrest fights 100% better with a good left elbow and shoulder.

Thing #3. Forrest would beat Mayorga every time. With a good left shoulder and elbow.

Thing #4. Forrest would kill either Hopkins or Wright.

Thing #5. Forrest could yet be a force at either jr. middle or middle weight.

Thing #6. Baldomir has a granite chin.

mostly agree.

#3:
Forrest would beat Mayorga everytime if he stuck to boxing and not trying to exchange with him. that is why he lost their 2nd fight, Forrest was looking real good until he started brawling with Mayorga.

#4:
Forrest would give Winky a good fight at 154 or even 160 at this point of their careers. i wont say that he would beat him though and i dont see him beating Bernard. Hop would clinch/punch and headbutt his way to a clear decision. :yep

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[nervousxtian]

The Quartey decision was just a make-up for getting jobbed against Mayorga in the 2nd fight.

Verron is a good guy, it's good to see him back on top again, he's one of the truly good people in boxing, and he's a bad style matchup for ANYONE... just ask Shane Mosley!

[El Bombasto]

And 8: Forrest still wouldn't beat Quartey in a rematch.:rofl

[El Bombasto]

Thing #1. Fast forward is a great thing to have when Bornard is fighting.

Thing #2. Vernon Forrest fights 100% better with a good left elbow and shoulder.

Thing #3. Forrest would beat Mayorga every time. With a good left shoulder and elbow.

Thing #4. Forrest would kill either Hopkins or Wright.

Thing #5. Forrest could yet be a force at either jr. middle or middle weight.

Thing #6. Baldomir has a granite chin.

so forrest looked good against baldo, that's like looking good against a heavy bag, i would not crown him p4p world-beater just yet

[Thom]

and how did Baldomir who never fought at 154 get to fight for the vacant WBC title?

How is Morales, who lost his only fight at 135, getting a shot at the WBC Lightweight title? The sanctioning bodies pay deference to former champs and fighters with big TV contracts. It's not fair or rational, but it's nothing new.

[Flatlander]

You do realise that Forrest fought and lost to Mayorga TWICE, right? :huh

Lost once and got robbed once. Both fights Forrest was a one handed fighter by the way. Forrest looked 100% better after his two surgeries.