Virchis vs Gomes for WBC eliminator !

[Artani]

Who wins ?
Interesting if Virchis wins elminator and Vitali beats Peter . Cen we see after Vitali vs Virchis. Nice match up....

[southpawslick]

Gomez will have to fight a perfect fight and Virchis only needs to connect one good one. Remember Gomez was KOed by Yanqui Diaz. Gomez could outbox him but he's got to avoid getting hit.

[joeboxer]

Gomez will have to fight a perfect fight and Virchis only needs to connect one good one. Remember Gomez was KOed by Yanqui Diaz. Gomez could outbox him but he's got to avoid getting hit.cosign. Gomez has the skills advantage but one shot is all Virchis needs.

[Artani]

I saw two last fights of Gomes and lose shine. He is experinced but he cant moving like before. Virchis by KO if he use his hard punch.

[kenmore]

Gomez is a slight betting favorite right now. Odds are -190 for Gomez, +150 for Virchis.

[Bummy Davis]

THEY SAY GOMEZ IS IN GREAT SHAPE AND I AM SURE VIRCHIS IS ALSO....If Gomez can peddle and pop shot he should take it but Virchis can hit, still Vidoz went the distance with him and he is there to be hit so....we will see what they bring into the biggest fight of both mens careers

[Artani]

THEY SAY GOMEZ IS IN GREAT SHAPE AND I AM SURE VIRCHIS IS ALSO....If Gomez can peddle and pop shot he should take it but Virchis can hit, still Vidoz went the distance with him and he is there to be hit so....we will see what they bring into the biggest fight of both mens careers

Vidoz dont know to fight from distance, Gomes apsulutly yes, he have good jab and he is naturaly great southpaw. I cant wait to see this fight...

[dwilson]

I like Gomez and I think Virchis will come up short.

[Odo]

I like Gomez and I think Virchis will come up short.

I also think so,dwilson! Gomez is head and shoulders above his limited and slow foe from the Ukraine in terms of speed and skills.
Gomez should be able to win a wide point decision IMO.
Of course Virchis' murderous firepower can turn the tables any time.
Gomez has to be totally focused and concentrated throughtout his entire encounter with the dangerous behemoth who has proved several times that he can bang like a mule.

Very fascinating upcomming fight! I am looking forward to it!

Firat Arslan vs Guillermo Jones,and Denis Inkin vs Karoly Balzsay on the undercard.Great fight card!

[somerset]

I've only even seen Virchis against Sprott and he was sluggish and lucky.

He's got to raise his game to win I reckon

[dwilson]

Gomez is one of the few heavy weight fighters I rate.

[Lewisbell]

My money will be on Virchis

[Loewe]

I also think so,dwilson! Gomez is head and shoulders above his limited and slow foe from the Ukraine in terms of speed and skills.
Gomez should be able to win a wide point decision IMO.
Of course Virchis' murderous firepower can turn the tables any time.
Gomez has to be totally focused and concentrated throughtout his entire encounter with the dangerous behemoth who has proved several times that he can bang like a mule.

Very fascinating upcomming fight! I am looking forward to it!

Firat Arslan vs Guillermo Jones,and Denis Inkin vs Karoly Balzsay on the undercard.Great fight card!

Great card indeed. Looking forward to it.

I favour Virchis slightly, Gomez is past his best. I favour Jones by a slight margin but I will root for Arslan. Inkin will beat Balzsay.

[Toney]

Gomez is a slight betting favorite right now. Odds are -190 for Gomez, +150 for Virchis.
I noticed it as well and I think that it is shocking. In my eyes this is a 50-50 fight. Gomez is over hill and Virchis is a neverbeen. But with these odds, I would put my money on Virchis. Too bad that I have no money...

[southpawslick]

Very fascinating upcomming fight! I am looking forward to it!

Firat Arslan vs Guillermo Jones,and Denis Inkin vs Karoly Balzsay on the undercard.Great fight card!
That is a really entertaining card. It should be a great night of boxing. I wish I was in Germany and could go see it myself.

[Alcaldemb]

I am taking Virchis in this. I simply cannot see Gomez avoiding Virchis' power for 12, especially when old man McCall was catching up to him consistently over the last half of their fight.

[FROST]

Gomez will have to fight a perfect fight and Virchis only needs to connect one good one. Remember Gomez was KOed by Yanqui Diaz. Gomez could outbox him but he's got to avoid getting hit.

Gomez has a good chin. I saw him take lots of power punches, among others by hard hitting Oli McCall, and not even blink. He wasn't KOed by Yanqui Diaz - it was a TKO, Gomez didn't prepare at all for that fight and was out of shape, Diaz hit him with like 20 consecutive big right hands and Gomez still didn't go down, the ref waved it off.

I think if Gomez prepares himself well for this fight (which isn't a 100% given, considering Gomez not always being serious about boxing - just look at his recent trouble when he breached his contract with Öner) he should be able to outbox the slow as a snail Virchis quite easily.

Gomez UD Virchis

[southpawslick]

Gomez has a good chin. I saw him take lots of power punches, among others by hard hitting Oli McCall, and not even blink. He wasn't KOed by Yanqui Diaz - it was a TKO, Gomez didn't prepare at all for that fight and was out of shape, Diaz hit him with like 20 consecutive big right hands and Gomez still didn't go down, the ref waved it off.

I think if Gomez prepares himself well for this fight (which isn't a 100% given, considering Gomez not always being serious about boxing - just look at his recent trouble when he breached his contract with Öner) he should be able to outbox the slow as a snail Virchis quite easily.

Gomez UD Virchis
Good points! Well, whatever the outcome this sounds like a really good matchup. Too bad they won't show it on American TV.

[Alcaldemb]

Gomez has a good chin. I saw him take lots of power punches, among others by hard hitting Oli McCall, and not even blink. He wasn't KOed by Yanqui Diaz - it was a TKO, Gomez didn't prepare at all for that fight and was out of shape, Diaz hit him with like 20 consecutive big right hands and Gomez still didn't go down, the ref waved it off.

I think if Gomez prepares himself well for this fight (which isn't a 100% given, considering Gomez not always being serious about boxing - just look at his recent trouble when he breached his contract with Öner) he should be able to outbox the slow as a snail Virchis quite easily.

Gomez UD Virchis

I know power is the last thing to go, but McCall doesn't crack anywhere near as hard as Virchis does right now. It is true that Gomez can out box Virchis, but if he were to lose his concentration for just a minute he can have his night ended by possibly the biggest raw puncher in the division.

[FROST]

I know power is the last thing to go, but McCall doesn't crack anywhere near as hard as Virchis does right now. It is true that Gomez can out box Virchis, but if he were to lose his concentration for just a minute he can have his night ended by possibly the biggest raw puncher in the division.

Agreed, Virchis is indeed a big puncher and he can hurt/KO Gomez IF he catches him with a good punch, even if Gomez has a proven good chin.

In the end, Virchis has a punchers chance. Big punchers always have.

[11player]

Yup, with Virchis on the ring, there is always a legit chance for a KO, but I like Gomez on this one.

Anyway, both these guys are too inactive, they should have reached this fight 2-3 years ago.

[sandwedge]

Good matchup! A real pick-em fight

[Odo]

Agreed, Virchis is indeed a big puncher and he can hurt/KO Gomez IF he catches him with a good punch, even if Gomez has a proven good chin.

In the end, Virchis has a punchers chance. Big punchers always have.

I will root for the Ukranian behemoth in his upcomming fight against Gomez!

Fight make styles! Gomez 's style seems to be totally wrong for Virchis,but as you ve said: he has a puncher's chance.

Virchis vs Gomez will be a very intriguing fight for us fight fans. I dont think that their encounter will electrify the fight crowd as will probably some of the undercard fights but us fight fans can surely appreciate such an important crossroad fight between a gifted boxer and a raw puncher.
Virchis has to win this fight in order to collect more decent paychecks.This upcomming fight will be his only and last chance shot at a world title.
He cant speak neither German nor English+is hardly marketable in the German market. He is in a race against time fighting against the odds and his fate.
Nevertheless,he has a good chance to upset Gomez and his promoter Oener.
Discipline and talent are the Alpha and the Omega of a careeras a pro fighter.Gomez has the natural talent to be a big name,but he lacks the discipline.If he runs out of gas against Virchis in the later rounds he will be doomed and find himself lying in the ring dust somewhere in the later rounds.
Virchis has to put all his eggs into one basket going for the kill from the first second of his fight against Gomez.His course of action is simple:he cant outbox Gomez-he has to knock him out.I dont think that Virchis will be able to give the Cuban short shrift. Gomez is no bum. However,12 rounds of boxing is quite a long distance. Gomez will probably win the first few rounds quite easily so that Virchis has to be cool as a cucumber and keep his composure throughout the first few rocky rounds. Gomez will surely play it safe in the second half of their fight just doing enough to win every round.
I very much hope that Gomez wont hold the forth and ward off all attacks throughout the later rounds.Hopefully,he will be out of puff after 7-8 rounds which gives Virchis a cutting edge to connect with one of his murderous powershots.
Virchis knows that the day of his fight will be a red-letter day for him.The chips are down- a cat in glove catches no mice!
Go for gold,Wowa!

[sandwedge]

Virchis by ko

[LoWang]

A saw the fight against McCall and I wasn't impressed. Virchis puncher's chance is huge. In addition, he has fought better opposition than Gomez at HW, e.g. Chagaev, which I rate higher than Gomez.

[FROST]

Gomez weighed in at a career high 233lbs, while Virchis was 10lbs lighter than last time he fought. Looks like Gomez hasn't taken his training serious enough again...

I give Virchis a better chance of winning now

[T.C.W]

is there a link for the fight tommorow guys

[FROST]

WTF?! I just read that ZDF won't broadcast this fight and that they'll only show the cruiserweight fights... That can't be true? That's bullshit! Them fools!

[Serenata]

Wollen wir nicht hoffen.

Perhaps there are any different links for watching that fight...

[Toney]

Gomez KO 8
Jones TKO 3
Zuniga TKO 10

Bad night for Universum Box Promotion

[Fat Tony]

WTF?! I just read that ZDF won't broadcast this fight and that they'll only show the cruiserweight fights... That can't be true? That's bullshit! Them fools!

Let's hope Alexeav stops Calloway in one or two rounds. But even in this case they'll only broadcast Virchis-Gomez or Inkin-Zuniga if the Universum guy/guys wins/win.

[jamel]

Virchis and Gomez are boring fighters anyhow. Still it is an importanat fight they should have made time to show all four main bouts live. I mean Inkin v Zuniga are both Top 10 fighting for vacant WBO belt, Alexeev & Calloway are both rated Cruiserweights & the winner of Virchis & Gomez is next in line for the Peter v Vitali Klitchko winner. So all these should be shown live along with the main event. What is up with German TV after getting this card together they needed to show all these fights.

[Serenata]

Gomez KO 8
Jones TKO 3
Zuniga TKO 10

Bad night for Universum Box Promotion

I bet that won´t happen ;)

[Toney]

I bet that won´t happen ;)
Yeah, I might have not picked the right rounds? What do you think will happend in those bouts?

[Serenata]

My pick:

Arslan UD
Virchis KO 9 (if Gomez is focused he will win, but I doubt that)
Inkin UD


Let´s see who is closer to the truth :)

[Alcaldemb]

Gomez weighed in at a career high 233lbs, while Virchis was 10lbs lighter than last time he fought. Looks like Gomez hasn't taken his training serious enough again...

I give Virchis a better chance of winning now

Saw that weight and felt better about picking Virchis. Gomez looked a bit slow vs McCall at 228, and Ollie was catching up to him. I have to think this quite lean Virchis will be able to catch up with a relatively fat Gomez.

[Toney]

Let´s see who is closer to the truth :)
:good

PS. Your predictions suck! You will see ;)

[fidds]

What channel is showing the fight ?

[unitas]

i take virchis..........but that may be cause i really like virchis. he is pure fun to watch.

[k2fan]

What channel is showing the fight ?

ZDF

[koraytyson]

Only Fox Turkey channel will show all fights from Hamburg.
It will start at 21:00 German Time.

[koraytyson]

My predictions are;

Fırat Arslan wins with TKO
Gomez will win by UD
Zuniga will with early KO

Fırat Arslan - Guilhermo Jones fight will be my difficult choice than the othes.

[k2fan]

Alexeev TKO3 Calloway. Put him down 2 times.

[unitas]

thanks for the info. i expected that.

[FROST]

ZDF

Apparently ZDF won't broadcast this fight, only the Arslan-Jones and Alexev-Calloway fights...

[fidds]

Apparently ZDF won't broadcast this fight, only the Arslan-Jones and Alexev-Calloway fights...

Can't find a stream for zdf :-(

[koraytyson]

Dennis Inkın wins with UD.

[Alcaldemb]

Alexeev has a nice stoppage win there as Chagaev and Rahman both took Calloway out in two. Alexeev has some real power.

[Toney]

Dennis Inkın wins with UD.
This is a result?

According to boxrec Gomez beat Virchis by UD.

[joeybagels]

Juan Carlos Gomez is the new no. 1 contender on the WBC heavyweight champion title. "The Black Panther" clearly outboxed Vladimir Virchis at the Color Line Arena in Hamburg knocking down "The Hunter" in the fifth to take home a unanimous decision win. "I told everybody before that it's Showtime!" stated Gomez. "I beat Virchis and more importantly I beat Klaus-Peter Kohl and Universum. Now I will go on to finally fulfill my great dream of becoming heavyweight champion of the world!" After beating Virchis, Gomez is the mandatory challenger for the winner of October 11th clash between Vitali Klitschko and reigning WBC champion Samuel Peter. "I would prefer to take on Vitali but I will beat whoever comes my way", adds Gomez.

[T.C.W]

Is there some links that work

[kk17]

Can't find a stream for zdf

ZDF isn't on yet.
Here in germany we can't see it live too.
only the Arlsan fight will be live

[T.C.W]

ZDF isn't on yet.
Here in germany we can't see it live too.
only the Arlsan fight will be livewill that be on an link

[kk17]

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[Toney]

My pick:

Arslan UD
Virchis KO 9 (if Gomez is focused he will win, but I doubt that)
Inkin UD


Let´s see who is closer to the truth :)

I won 2-1 :yep Did you really think that Arslan would win?

Anyway... How was Inkin vs. Zuniga?

[Serenata]

I won 2-1 :yep Did you really think that Arslan would win?

Anyway... How was Inkin vs. Zuniga?

I was hoping he would, damn Jones is a good one. :!:

I knew that Gomes would win but I don´t like that lazy fat ass so I was rooting for Virchis...

Inkin vs. Zuniga was a clear point victory vor Inkin, but Zuniga had him wobbled in the fifth.

[Serenata]

Alexeev is the future of the Cruiserdivision :eek:

That guy is just insane....

[NBT]

Did Alexeev take it slow for the first round or two? Or was he pressuring Calloway from the opening bell?
Neiter one or the other. He carefully picked his shots, not wasting any punches. Very sharp and economical boxing, he made every punch count, not rushing anything. He could have taken out Calloway in the first if he wanted, so much was obvious, Calloway wobbled from a jab in that round.

In addition; Inkin must be better than I thought. I was fairly certain Zuniga would win. Odo called it correct!
Well, Odo is always picking the Eastern European, so it wasn't that brilliant of a call. :D Well, most people said that Inkin would win a decision if it went the full distance, he is after all the better boxer. I didn't think he could avoid Zunigas power for 12 rounds, but he proved me wrong. Seems like he had a few wobbly moments but he survived it, good for him.

[koraytyson]

J. Carlos Gomez is bigger than Virchis. He has more options than Virchis. Virchis did not do anything. Gomez controlled and dominated all the fight. It was not a suprize. Of course Gomez is older now. Altough he is an old, he managed to win against the' Hunter'. Virchis was very weak against him. Question that in my mind is His performance enough to win against Peter or Vitali ? He has talents and good hand speeds but of course, he is different than his past days.

[koraytyson]

Fırat Arslan fought too defensive. He just thought defense. It was a bad mental for the fight. Gulerhermo Jones is in exellent shape. Tough he is 700 gr heavier than Fırat, his shape looks like an heavyweightboxer's shape. And he never tired in the fight.He threw a lots of punches per every round. In his last fights Firat fought like he destroyed his opponents gameplan. But, It must was diffrent yesterday. Also he fought with same tactics. I congrulated Jones.

[NBT]

Arslan is simply not a good enough boxer. He has only one style that he has perfected (pressure fighter relying on his superior stamina behind a tight double guard without much punching technique and power) but if that style doesn't work he can't adapt because he just doesn't have the skillset. Arslan was simply and decisively outclassed and there was nothing he could do about it, he was never going to win this fight.

It's really insane that Jones started his career as a Welterweight... He had a really significant size advantage ober Arslan who is a physically very strong guy. Jones must have been skinny as fuck in these days.

[Loewe]

Arslan is simply not a good enough boxer. He has only one style that he has perfected (pressure fighter relying on his superior stamina behind a tight double guard without much punching technique and power) but if that style doesn't work he can't adapt because he just doesn't have the skillset. Arslan was simply and decisively outclassed and there was nothing he could do about it, he was never going to win this fight.

It's really insane that Jones started his career as a Welterweight... He had a really significant size advantage ober Arslan who is a physically very strong guy. Jones must have been skinny as fuck in these days.

Well, I agree completly. I was rooting for Arslan but he simply wasn´t good enough. Jones fought a great fight, perfect gameplan.

[Andy4fun]

Allthough I favored Virchis because of Gomez tendency to be sloppy and cocky it was a no-contest. Virchis was lunging for punches, was inaccurate and going mainly for the body. He wasnt making much of an impact except for his own stamina. Gomez was jabbing counterpunching and getting in an out of range whenever he pleased. He even knocked Virchis down allthough he was up before the count of 1. Later in the fight Virchis got hit with a hook again and his left leg buckled but he didnt go down. What seemed strange to me was that there was no power at all in Virchis few meaningfull punches, maybe he overtrained or maybe he isnt as powerfull as I used to believe.

Gomez won fair and square but he didnt look like a major threat to any of the beltholders for now

[Alcaldemb]

I give Gomez credit for winning, but Virchis is a C level guy with A level power. He was almost, some say he was, outboxed by Sprott, and Chagaev had way too much going on at the time for one to make an accurate assesment of his abilities off of that fight. Gomez, as we know, can beat up on the guys with limited physical ability or skill, I still think against other contenders he comes up short. For example I think Povetkin's better speed and consistent mobiltiy, plus equal to or better power, would allow him to wear Gomez down over the course of a ten or twelve round fight.

This all being said if Peter beats Vitali then I could see JC outboxing Peter and possibly scoring a flash KD or two.

[overhandright]

From the highlights I saw both Gomez and Virchis looked horribly sloppy. Virchis did look as if he had no strength in the fight, and I think that the main difference was Gomez's speed and southpaw stance. Gomez was on Virchis' foot for the knock down, so that was more a matter of balance. But I totally agree with Andy and Alca, Gomez does deserve credit for beating a heavy puncher but he is no threat to guys with with better skills than the crude Virchis.

[Farmboxer]

Vitali knows Gomez and will outbox him, knock him out.

[Artani]

Vitali knows Gomez and will outbox him, knock him out.

Lets wait first to see who will be winner of match Peter vs Vitali and dont forget this that Vitali trainer Firtz Sdunek told before that "I will never train somebody like Gomes. He was the best talent that I have seen".

[KobeIsGod]

virchis looked dead and uninterested. u really saw his limitations in this one. takes some of the shine off ruslan "the walking plague" chagaev's win :yep

gomez is slick and awkward. he reminds me of smaller, quicker handed tony thompson. lacks power, southpaw, awkward. However, his defense has tons of holes. He could beat Valuev and give problems to anyone but Wlad, who would expose that shitty defense.