Carlos Baldomir has the BEST chin I have ever seen...

[swedeone]

Last night clinched it for me. I thought he had an amazing chin before last night but.... damn! :good

[Relentless]

since when did vernon forrest become a power puncher?

[AmazingHook]

since when did vernon forrest become a power puncher?

Vernon Forrest can definitely punch and he connected with a lot of good clean punches but Baldomir didn't go down...very impressive.

[Cookie]

He's definitely got an amazing chin. What really proved it for me was when Baldomir stopped fighting because he thought he heard the bell for the end of the round and he got absolutely smashed by I think two full force hooks. Most people would probably have been down and out after getting caught totally off guard like that. But Baldomir was just pissed off with the time keeper. :lol:

[they_killed_kenny]

Hector Camacho's chin > Baldomir's chin :mj

[SweetScienceFan]

He's definitely got an amazing chin. What really proved it for me was when Baldomir stopped fighting because he thought he heard the bell for the end of the round and he got absolutely smashed by I think two full force hooks. Most people would probably have been down and out after getting caught totally off guard like that. But Baldomir was just pissed off with the time keeper. :lol:
That amazed me as well. He was looking at the ref and was caught completely by suprise by a monster left hook flush, and he didn't even bother looking at Forrest, he just kept staring at the ref, then Forrest hit him against with a monster shot, and Baldo still didn't even bother acknowledging it. He just ate those punches up and threw his arm in the air at the time keeper and ref.

For those of you talking about Vernon's power, the man hits extremely hard. If you remember, Mayorga even walked back after the second round of their first fight and said to his corner "that black guy hits hard!".

[BodyBlaster]

2 words, Oliver McCall!!

[Nawfal]

vernon couldnt hurt mayorga easily and he landed some bombs on him

what does that mean

[goldnarms]

vernon couldnt hurt mayorga easily and he landed some bombs on him

what does that mean

It means Mayorga has a good chin also. Two people are allowed to have great chins. :cool:

[Toopretty]

Forrest hits hard..how many boxing matches have you watched..Hell yeah Forrest hits hard. That right hand is no joke. He was landing crushing shots off guard and counter punches that baldomir did not see. baldomir was coming in wild and forrest was catching him..he did not flinch..I mean when his guard was down and forrest threw a bomb dead on he did not see it..threw his hands up..and yelled at the ref. I aint never seen no shit like that. He was not phased...lol BALDOMIR TOP 3 CHINS OF OUR ERA.

[Nawfal]

It means Mayorga has a good chin also. Two people are allowed to have great chins. :cool:

2 people cant have the BEST chin ever

[Jinx]

Vernon Forrest doesn't have much raw power, but he does get good leverage on what he does have...Baldomir has a rock solid beard, but taking non-flush shots from Forrest doesn't make him Chuvalo...it easier to take shots on the side of jaw, but right on the point of the chin is the money...

[Relentless]

Forrest hits hard..how many boxing matches have you watched..Hell yeah Forrest hits hard. That right hand is no joke. He was landing crushing shots off guard and counter punches that baldomir did not see. baldomir was coming in wild and forrest was catching him..he did not flinch..I mean when his guard was down and forrest threw a bomb dead on he did not see it..threw his hands up..and yelled at the ref. I aint never seen no shit like that. He was not phased...lol BALDOMIR TOP 3 CHINS OF OUR ERA.

who's the other 2?

[Shake]

His head is a giant coconut.

[Toopretty]

who's the other 2?

James Toney

JCC

to me.

[AmazingHook]

James Toney

JCC

to me.

Hmm, what do you think about Oliver McCall's chin?

[Nawfal]

Neither of them do, at all.

yeah no way

james toney has the best chin ever

a middleweight, and taking punches from a huge puncher in peter. the guy is a beast

[Nawfal]

i wonder if hagler could have taken sam peters, rahmans, holyfields punches

we will never know. but based on the fact that toney did, i would say he has the best ever p4p

but overall best chin ever was oliver mccall. he has never even been stunned

he said he did over 300 rounds with prime tyson, and wasnt ever buzzed and i believe him

[Nawfal]

i appreciate he wasnt hit flush that often

but he was hit hard and clean against peter

[Toopretty]

JCC has been KO'd. Hagler, LaMotta, McCall, Chuvalo, Greb are at least as good if not better.

Pea I was talking about our generation more so the last 15-20. But MCCall can be there. I think he did not fight the biggest punchers at Heavy though. If he went in with Mike and came out on his feet then he would seal the deal.

[thewoo]

Haven't seen the fight yet, but best chin after taking a few powershots from Vernon Forrest? Really? Shit, Mayorga actually LET Forrest hit him.

Forrest landed better shots on Baldomir than on Mayorga. Don't forget most of what will cause a fighter to be hurt with a punch is not seeing it coming. When Mayorga dropped his hands for forrest, he new exactly what was coming and from what direction.

[Bazooka]

Last night clinched it for me. I thought he had an amazing chin before last night but.... damn! :good

He has a solid chin no doubt, but McCall with stood some bombs from Lennox in their rematch I doubt anybody can top that.

[Toopretty]

Forrest landed better shots on Baldomir than on Mayorga. Don't forget most of what will cause a fighter to be hurt with a punch is not seeing it coming. When Mayorga dropped his hands for forrest, he new exactly what was coming and from what direction.

So true...so true..he caught baldomir lunging in swinging I mean perfect knockout counter punch opporunity. I mean perfect. Baldomir took those punches, uppercuts left hooks right hands. I mean that is a chin. He was never even close to going down.

[platnumpapi]

he has a still chin, the man walks at 200 pounds now wow.and people gave floyd shit because he know he was not going to ko baldo, pbf is a smart man.know way he would have koed tata even if his life depended on it and he knew it to.

vernon has got some good pop in his punches but tata was barley fazed by them

[Chileno606]

The difference between the shots Mayorga was taking and the ones Baldomir was taking is that Balo was EATING HAYMAKERS ON THE JAW and barely blinking!

Lets not forget the pummeling and the knockdown Forrest scored against Mosley- who has a great chin too.

[thewoo]

he has a still chin, the man walks at 200 pounds now wow.and people gave floyd shit because he know he was not going to ko baldo, pbf is a smart man.know way he would have koed tata even if his life depended on it and he knew it to.

vernon has got some good pop in his punches but tata was barley fazed by them

Even if you know you are not going to KO a guy it's ok to throw more than 5 punches per round. Floyd had the speen and accuracy that he could have landed at will and maybe even forced a stoppage due to accumulation

[Drew101]

Forrest is the only man to put Mosley on the canvas, and he was able to stop Mayorga in his tracks on several occasions, particularly in the rematch. He's got legitimate power, and the fact that Baldomir was able to take flush shots the way he did indicates that he does, indeed, possess an all-world chin.

[Nawfal]

Librado Andrade and the white dude that Lenow Lewis have beat by UD but he connected him with like 20 right hands and he never back..that was amazing


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[Drew101]

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I think he speaks of Mavrovic.

[Toopretty]

Andrade is Baldomirs brother..lol He has a cro-magnon skull but he is too lightly regarded to be in the mix. We are talking name fighters. I mean Andrade and Baldomir have pure titanium alloy skulls I know there mother had hell(no disrespect) but those domes..my god..Baldomirs head is bigger then his torso..lol

[Nawfal]

yeah lennox did hurt him tho

but no doubt he did have a good chin

[Toopretty]

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[BigEars]

A lot of fighters with great chins mentioned , but as usual when this happens I always have to bring up Wayne McCullough . Wayne also has a great ability to take body shots to go with his granite chin .

Baldomir does have a real solid chin though , I think we can all agree with that however he has been ko'ed even if it was right at the start of his career .

[platnumpapi]

Forrest is the only man to put Mosley on the canvas, and he was able to stop Mayorga in his tracks on several occasions, particularly in the rematch. He's got legitimate power, and the fact that Baldomir was able to take flush shots the way he did indicates that he does, indeed, possess an all-world chin.

well if pbf only through 5 punches then tata should have beat him cause all he would have had top land was 6 to out point him in each rd.pbf is not a risky fighter, hes not a ko artist, hes not a big hitter and he has shity ass weak hands.

why would he want to sit down on every punch to try to ko guy that is 50 pounds heavier then him, well tata was about 185 walking around at that time but still i never understood why some people want the lil man to trade with the big man.

to me that just gives tata the benfit of the dout and he alreay upset judah and gatti, you wonder if he had some kinda jinx to him or something.i dont blame pbf for fighting him the way he did.he made sure know upset this way.

[Nawfal]

A lot of fighters with great chins mentioned , but as usual when this happens I always have to bring up Wayne McCullough . Wayne also has a great ability to take body shots to go with his granite chin .

yeah mccullough was a goddam beast.

[Nawfal]

well if pbf only through 5 punches then tata should have beat him cause all he would have had top land was 6 to out point him in each rd.pbf is not a risky fighter, hes not a ko artist, hes not a big hitter and he has shity ass weak hands.

why would he want to sit down on every punch to try to ko guy that is 50 pounds heavier then him, well tata was about 185 walking around at that time but still i never understood why some people want the lil man to trade with the big man.

to me that just gives tata the benfit of the dout and he alreay upset judah and gatti, you wonder if he had some kinda jinx to him or something.i dont blame pbf for fighting him the way he did.he made sure know upset this way.

he didnt need to trade

calzaghe didnt trade with lacy but he outboxed him and beat him up

[platnumpapi]

he didnt need to trade

calzaghe didnt trade with lacy but he outboxed him and beat him up

he did not stop him though and joe fight was on the inside with lacy and he used a clinch technique to stop lacy in his tracks.all 4 of those fighters had different styles.im missing the point.

you saying pbf could have fought tata like joe did lacy :huh

[Nawfal]

he did not stop him though and joe fight was on the inside with lacy and he used a clinch technique to stop lacy in his tracks.all 4 of those fighters had different styles.im missing the point.

you saying pbf could have fought tata like joe did lacy :huh

calzaghe did not clinch. he fucked him up in every way. inside outside.

floyd pot shotted and ran.

you said why should floyd trade with him, and im saying no one is saying he should. but being the best fighter of all time, he could have done more than what he did. fuck all basically.

and what hte hell does stopping him have to do with it. at least calzaghe went for it.

[Pantera]

For those of you talking about Vernon's power, the man hits extremely hard. If you remember, Mayorga even walked back after the second round of their first fight and said to his corner "that black guy hits hard!".


That was just bad translation. That Ray guy usually misinterprets everything. What Mayorga actually said was that Vernon had very hard hair.

[Toopretty]

That was just bad translation. That Ray guy usually misinterprets everything. What Mayorga actually said was that Vernon had very hard hair.

Hard hair..that is new:bart

[platnumpapi]

calzaghe did not clinch. he fucked him up in every way. inside outside.

floyd pot shotted and ran.

you said why should floyd trade with him, and im saying no one is saying he should. but being the best fighter of all time, he could have done more than what he did. fuck all basically.

and what hte hell does stopping him have to do with it. at least calzaghe went for it.


joe did clinch with lacy tieing his arms up, and you act like pbf fights everyone that way, and jc beat lacy up, ok but not evry fight jc had was like that.

pbf did the same thing but worse to gatti, so lets not act like pbf is not human and cant have a off night or just feel the need to fight a safer fighter against a big man who had the luckiest year in boxing since glen johnson.

[Nawfal]

youve missed the point

calzaghe tries to fight, everyone has off nights i dont deny that.

floyd is perfectly happy running from a c class fighter in baldomir. and then still calls himself the best ever.

and i didnt even say calzaghe fights like a beast everytime. you kept saying what did you expect from floyd? to stand there and trade. NO ONE WANTS HIM TO TRADE. we just dont want to see him landing a punch and running

[platnumpapi]

youve missed the point

calzaghe tries to fight, everyone has off nights i dont deny that.

floyd is perfectly happy running from a c class fighter in baldomir. and then still calls himself the best ever.

and i didnt even say calzaghe fights like a beast everytime. you kept saying what did you expect from floyd? to stand there and trade. NO ONE WANTS HIM TO TRADE. we just dont want to see him landing a punch and running

so land a punch and then stay there for the return fire.if i hit a guy bigger then me i would move every time as well.pbf only started fighting like that when he moved to 147 fighting guys alot bigger then him.from the judah fight on down he has not fought like that before.

people act like his whole career was a hit and run.the last time he traded in the pocket was with castillo in the 1st fight and he loss that fight.its not fair to ask for pbf to go easy on fighters because he is that good.

its like saying to me thats not fair you are to fast so when you hit me
you have to stand still so i can atleast hit you back, dont gone the whole fight hitting me and not letting me hit you.

thatss what your asking i think :-(

[goldnarms]

youve missed the point

calzaghe tries to fight, everyone has off nights i dont deny that.

floyd is perfectly happy running from a c class fighter in baldomir. and then still calls himself the best ever.

and i didnt even say calzaghe fights like a beast everytime. you kept saying what did you expect from floyd? to stand there and trade. NO ONE WANTS HIM TO TRADE. we just dont want to see him landing a punch and running

I agree with the basis of your post. But Baldo is NOT a C class fighter. :nono

[Relentless]

baldo is nothing more than a c class fighter who got lucky against an unmotivated zab judah, the guy is feather fisted for his size, he has 11 ko's out of 60+ fights.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Last night clinched it for me. I thought he had an amazing chin before last night but.... damn! :good

If you mean this, then no offense, you really haven't seen much. That's not an insult, and sorry if it sounds like one.:thumbsup

[MagnificentMatt]

Last night clinched it for me. I thought he had an amazing chin before last night but.... damn! :good

The guy in your avatar comes to mind....as well as the last guy he fought..

(Sam Peter and Lights Out)

[MagnificentMatt]

Vernon Forrest can definitely punch and he connected with a lot of good clean punches but Baldomir didn't go down...very impressive.

ALSO, its not really the forrest was punching him all that hard, or than baldy wasnt going down, it was that he wasnt even getting phased, at all.

[BxN]

since when did vernon forrest become a power puncher?

since when did shane mosley become a glass jawed fighter?


Vernon Forrest's punching power is top notch.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Tell me who you think had a more sturdy chin? You're going to have to name a fighter that fought punchers, took their flush shots, and didn't notice them. That's swhat baldy does

Mosley
DLH
Hopkins
Peter
Toney
McCall
McCullough
Holyfield
Margarito

They all come to mind.

[Executioner]

:patsch

I'm sure you haven't seen very many fighters.

[andyZOR]

Baldomir does have a good chin. I'm sure Zakman would agree, the official ESB chin checker. =D

But I wouldn't say the BEST chin.

[teetop]

Haven't seen the fight yet, but best chin after taking a few powershots from Vernon Forrest? Really? Shit, Mayorga actually LET Forrest hit him.

He also let tito hit him w/ 3 left hooks, and was still standing so what's your point?

[Lance_Uppercut]

He also let tito hit him w/ 3 left hooks, and was still standing so what's your point?

It's much easier to take a flush shot when you are prepared and waiting for it, as Mayorgas was when he let Tito unload. It's not the same as getting a left when you're actually boxing.

[Betty Swollocks]

It's much easier to take a flush shot when you are prepared and waiting for it, as Mayorgas was when he let Tito unload. It's not the same as getting a left when you're actually boxing.

Mayorga also took Cory Spinks' bombs without flinching.

p4p chins of recent times

1. Toney
2. Baldo
3. Mayorga
4. McCall

[Lance_Uppercut]

Mayorga also took Cory Spinks' bombs without flinching.

p4p chins of recent times

1. Toney
2. Baldo
3. Mayorga
4. McCall

:lol:

[kg0208]

Even p4p I would rank McCall's chin #1. He is the only one on that list that has never tasted the canvas. :deal

[C Money]

Given the ending of his career, I cant put him up there, but i remember watching Ray Mercer take EVERYTHING lennox Lewis could throw and saying....GODDAMN this guy has a CEMENT JAW:good

Ultimately, I suppose it all caught up to him,


I give Baldo credit he's a tough SOB at a lighter weight.

I also gotta give SSM a very solid CHIN rating:good he took the best from larger and skilled fighters like Forrest and Wright and still saw the final bell.

[Pimp C]

Baldo walked through everything Forrest threw at him and asked for more. His chin is P4P one of the best in boxing today.

[Pimp C]

:lol:

he took all of Floyds mighty POP SHOTS too!
What does PBF have to do with this topic?:-(

[kg0208]

Floyd said he was going to put him on his back or make him wave the white FLAG..:lol:

It was just talk....can't act like that matters.

[Pimp C]

Floyd said he was going to put him on his back or make him wave the white FLAG..:lol:
And you said you would leave ESB forever if Margo lost?:hi:

[freddy-wak]

mos def one of the best chins ever...i dont think he's ever even been dropped....mayorga has...

[kg0208]

mos def one of the best chins ever...i dont think he's ever even been dropped....mayorga has...

He has been KO'd early on in his career. Not sure by whom, but I am sure Boxrec has it. HBO mentioned it during the fight.

[kg0208]

It was just talk....can't act like that matters.
Giving your word and promoting a fight are not the same thing. Fighters say things they don't mean or that don't happen when promoting a fight all the time. It is part of the promotion. Giving your word on a bet or something similar is another thing entirely. It is based on an entirely seperate premise.

[kg0208]

WHO did I bet?

THAT'S RIGHT.

shaddup

You bet me earlier that same week about Margarito making an offer to PBF while he was still at 140. The you tried to twist the situation by saying that PBF next fought at 147 so he was already a 147lb fighter, ignoring that he only moved up to 147 because the 140 champion wouldn't fight him and that he was still deciding in which weight he was fighting.

And then you made the statement you would leave if Margarito lost. Unsolicited. You didn't. So your word means nothing.

And I said "a bet or something similar". You are not promoting a fight.

[kg0208]

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh.

not doing any business transactions with you so what do you care..

it was talk, like how your hero Floyd says he is the greatest of all time and Roy " been knock the f out twice" Jones says he is still the best light heavyweight in the world.

I don't care. But I certainly know that you are full of it. So don't try and talk about what anyone else says. Message boards are ONLY about credibility.

And PBF isn't my hero. You can say it all you like if you it helps you. Jones on the other hand I will certainly comp too.

Lets compare. My hero (Jones) with yours (Margarito)...oh ok.

[Pantera]

Hard hair..that is new:bart

Yes, Mayorga actually went to his corner and said: "Este negro tiene un pelo durisimo!!!" (This black guy has very hard hair...)

And that guy Ray whomever understood: "Este negro pega durisimo..." (This black guy hits very hard...)

It was a mistranslation. Even Mayorga clarified that later on. :smoke