Famous Boxers Brothers

[la-califa]

Which Famous Boxers actually had brothers/relatives who were also fighters? Who were famous themselves or not.

[Chinxkid]

Joey LaMotta had some fights, so did Clay's brother right? Fritzie Zivic had four brothers, all of whom were fighters. Two, I think Jack and Pete went to the 1930 Olympics and one, can't think of which, brought home a gold medal.

Just remembered Billy Conn's brother Jackie had some pro goes; was on the card the night of one of Billy's fight with Joe Louis.

By the way la-califa... please don't ever change your avatar... I like it!

[mcvey]

Which Famous Boxers actually had brothers/relatives who were also fighters? Who were famous themselves or not.
Abe Attell 's brother Monte was a fighter and I beleive another brother went in the ring,Max and Buddy Baer,Mike and Leon Spinks.Ricky Hatton's brother is a promising fighter.

[la-califa]

Joey LaMotta had some fights, so did Clay's brother right? Fritzie Zivic had four brothers, all of whom were fighters. Two, I think Jack and Pete went to the 1930 Olympics and one, can't think of which, brought home a gold medal.

Just remembered Billy Conn's brother Jackie had some pro goes; was on the card the night of one of Billy's fight with Joe Louis.

By the way la-califa... please don't ever change your avatar... I like it!I believe Clay's brother was in the main preliminary fight on the Fight of the Century Card?

[janitor]

Mike and Tommy Gibbons.

Two brothers, both hall of famers, and pound for pound greats.

I win.

[la-califa]

Milton McCrory had a brother who was a Flyweight. Also Frank Fletcher's Brother Anthony was a Lightweight.

[Chinxkid]

I believe Clay's brother was in the main preliminary fight on the Fight of the Century Card?

I think you're right!

[janitor]

Jim Jeffries brother Jack Jeffries was a servicable fighter.

[Hatesrats]

Add..
Rafael & Gabriel Ruelas
Rafael & Juan Manuel Marquez

[ChrisPontius]

Jim Jeffries brother Jack Jeffries was a servicable fighter.
Not according to Jack Johnson. :lol:


I bet he regrets he didn't take the fight earlier for a long time. Probably the rest of his life.

[janitor]

Not according to Jack Johnson. :lol:

By that definition neither was Tommy Burns.

[Quickhands21]

Canizales bros..Ive been watching clips of Orlando.wow was that guy good

[GazOC]

Don and Bruce Curry. Both world champs.

[GazOC]

The Sullivans, Jack, Mike and Dan (I had to look up Dan TBH).

[GazOC]

Milton McCrory had a brother who was a Flyweight. Also Frank Fletcher's Brother Anthony was a Lightweight.

Steve McCrory, he lost to Jeff Fenech in a world title shot. There was great article on him ESBs front page a year or so ago IIRC.

[Bill1234]

Gene, Don, and some other Fullmer. Larry and Mark Holmes. Max and Buddy Baer.

[SuzieQ49]

how bout joe louis and his cousin big boy brown. ill post an IBRO article on brown, they said he had potential.

[SteveO]

Marvin Hagler's half-brother is Robbie Sims. He beat Roberto Duran.

[DFW]

Gene, Don and Jay Fullmer

[SteveO]

Jerry, Mike, and Bobby Quarry.

[Bummy Davis]

Joey Archer and his brother Jimmy.....Klitschko's...Gerry Cooney had a brother Tom who went to the Hvyweight Finals NY gloves...Max and Buddy Baer...Quarrys..Mayweathers....

[SteveO]

Michael and Leon Spinks, + nephew/son Cory.

[FromWithin]

Roger, Jeff & Floyd Mayweather, Dave, Matthew & Alex Hilton, Arthur & Alex Abraham, Otis & Howard(amateur) Grant

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[COULDHAVEBEEN]

If Australian aboriginal brothers the SANDS aren't the most famous family in boxing history they ought to be! The 5 Sands brothers became known as the Fighting Sands Brothers, and for good reason:

3 of the SANDS brothers won national titles:

DAVE SANDS - wins 97 (63 by KO) losses 10 (2) and 1 draw.
ALFIE SANDS - wins 88 (64 by KO) losses 47 (8) and 11 draws.
RUSSELL SANDS - wins 35 (10 by KO) losses 19(12) and 4 draws.

Another brother RITCHIE, also known as Percival, fought for an Australian title amongst his 45 wins (36 by KO) 36 losses (19 by KO) and 7 draws record.

Last, but not least, CLEM, compiled a record of 46 wins (36 by KO), 50 losses (8 by KO) and 4 draws which included winning a state (NSW) title.

DAVE SANDS was by far the stand-out of the brothers winning Australian middleweight, light-heavyweight and heavyweight championships (at one stage holding all 3 simultaneously), and Australasian light-heavyweight and British Empire middleweight championships.

[Dempsey1238]

Henry Cooper has a twin brother, who was a boxer also. Think his name was George??
Wonder how he did?

[Robbi]

Ricky and Matthew Hatton.

[good right hand]

If Australian aboriginal brothers the SANDS aren't the most famous family in boxing history they ought to be! The 5 Sands brothers became known as the Fighting Sands Brothers, and for good reason:

3 of the SANDS brothers won national titles:

DAVE SANDS - wins 97 (63 by KO) losses 10 (2) and 1 draw.
ALFIE SANDS - wins 88 (64 by KO) losses 47 (8) and 11 draws.
RUSSELL SANDS - wins 35 (10 by KO) losses 19(12) and 4 draws.

Another brother RITCHIE, also known as Percival, fought for an Australian title amongst his 45 wins (36 by KO) 36 losses (19 by KO) and 7 draws record.

Last, but not least, CLEM, compiled a record of 46 wins (36 by KO), 50 losses (8 by KO) and 4 draws which included winning a state (NSW) title.

DAVE SANDS was by far the stand-out of the brothers winning Australian middleweight, light-heavyweight and heavyweight championships (at one stage holding all 3 simultaneously), and Australasian light-heavyweight and British Empire middleweight championships.

great add!

dave sands beat the best fighter to come out of hawaii and one of the better fighters in middle weight history, carl "bobo" olson twice!


many many many fighting brothers,

the zivic and turpin families and a few brothers that boxed.

brothers that won world championships are many, in addition to those mentioned

the norris'
the bredahl's
the ruelas'
the galaxys'
the curry's
the penolosa's
the kiltchko's
the spink's

micky ward's half brother dicky was a excellent amature and provided sugar ray leonard with a daring tough fight.

[Chinxkid]

If Australian aboriginal brothers the SANDS aren't the most famous family in boxing history they ought to be! The 5 Sands brothers became known as the Fighting Sands Brothers, and for good reason:

3 of the SANDS brothers won national titles:

DAVE SANDS - wins 97 (63 by KO) losses 10 (2) and 1 draw.
ALFIE SANDS - wins 88 (64 by KO) losses 47 (8) and 11 draws.
RUSSELL SANDS - wins 35 (10 by KO) losses 19(12) and 4 draws.

Another brother RITCHIE, also known as Percival, fought for an Australian title amongst his 45 wins (36 by KO) 36 losses (19 by KO) and 7 draws record.

Last, but not least, CLEM, compiled a record of 46 wins (36 by KO), 50 losses (8 by KO) and 4 draws which included winning a state (NSW) title.

DAVE SANDS was by far the stand-out of the brothers winning Australian middleweight, light-heavyweight and heavyweight championships (at one stage holding all 3 simultaneously), and Australasian light-heavyweight and British Empire middleweight championships.

That's unbelievable, wow! Can you imagine the fights they must have had growing up? More like gang fights!

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

That's unbelievable, wow! Can you imagine the fights they must have had growing up? More like gang fights!

Exactly! In fact you've reminded me of another set of brothers, the WATERS boys.

From memory all three, Dean, Guy and Troy all won Australian titles. As kids all they did all day long was fight in the homemade ring under the guidance of their crazy father. Eventually the family split up in a very ugly manner indeed!

[fists of fury]

The Toweel clan here are legends. Sadly most have died by now.

Mike Toweel was a fighter, his sons Willie Toweel fought to a draw for the world lightweight title, Vic won the world bantamweight crown, Alan became a very respected trainer, yet another Maurice became a matchmaker and promotor...then there are the cousins, too many to mention, nephews etc. all of whom were fighters or involved with boxing at some stage.

Quite amazing really, and I'd like one day to expand more upon this great fighting family...it's worth a read to anyone really interested in fighting families.

[Chinxkid]

Exactly! In fact you've reminded me of another set of brothers, the WATERS boys.

From memory all three, Dean, Guy and Troy all won Australian titles. As kids all they did all day long was fight in the homemade ring under the guidance of their crazy father. Eventually the family split up in a very ugly manner indeed!

Split up in an ugly manner? I'm surprised they made it out alive. And speaking of the Waters brothers, what the hell are they putting in the drinking water in Australia?

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Dave Sands beat the best fighter to come out of hawaii and one of the better fighters in middle weight history, Carl "Bobo" Olson twice!

Sad thing about Dave Sands is that he died in a motor accident in his mid 20's (26 I think) without being able to completely fulfil his potential. Nonetheless he can be remembered for some of his great victories, including the two over Olson.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Split up in an ugly manner? I'm surprised they made it out alive. And speaking of the Waters brothers, what the hell are they putting in the drinking water in Australia?

Dean Waters Trial
In 1997, the national attention focused on the successful verdict given in the highly publicized “Dean Waters Case”. The accused, Dean Waters, was one of three brothers, who were all famous boxers in their own right, who were trained by their father, Ces Waters, who together with the eldest sister, Tracey Waters, formed a “family dynasty in boxing”. Dean Waters was originally charged with murder in 1988 but not committed for trial. He later came forward entirely of his own volition in 1996 to confess his guilt. Notwithstanding his confession, a psychiatric defence was run at trial and he was acquitted and walked out a free man!

[Chinxkid]

Well, if he wasn't worthy of a psychiatric defense in 1988, I'll bet he was after carrying that guilt around for eight years. Sounds like a colorful family.

[Loewe]

Ralf and Graziano Rocchigiani

[TBooze]

Us Brit in the modern era have had:

The Laings; Kirkland and former British Champ Tony

The McKenzie clan; Duke, Tony and Clinton

The Eubanks'; Chris (he deed polled the s off his name) and Peter (plus I believe at least one more).

Hattons and Eastmans

Finnegan brothers

Lloyd and Errol Christie

To name but a few.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Well, if he wasn't worthy of a psychiatric defense in 1988, I'll bet he was after carrying that guilt around for eight years. Sounds like a colorful family.

The 3 brothers, and most likely the sister too, seemed to be good kids. The mother either wasn't around, or at least wasn't around later on. The old man was the problem!

Anyway, the positive was they were all excellent boxers and achieved quite a lot. Troy in particular was close enough to world class.

[GazOC]

Simon Eubank was the other boxing brother.

[SteveO]

Jacqui Frazier's BROTHER, Marvis, had a career.

[GazOC]

I read a good article about him a few months back, he was asked whether he regretted being rushed and he said he had a career ending eye problem that was getting worse and he was unsure of how long he'd get in the game, the title fight was 'now or never' chance he had to take.

[Vantage_West]

Marvin Hagler's half-brother is Robbie Sims. He beat Roberto Duran.marvin was at benn simms fight.
sims was pretty good to be honest. if he wasnt related to hagler we wouldnt of thought of him differently

[TBooze]

Jacqui Frazier's BROTHER, Marvis, had a career.

Joe Jr (Hector) was a pro as well.

[la-califa]

Joe Jr (Hector) was a pro as well. There was another Frazier I think. A Middleweight? I think Joe even trained him? A cousin or something like that.

[Chinxkid]

The 3 brothers, and most likely the sister too, seemed to be good kids. The mother either wasn't around, or at least wasn't around later on. The old man was the problem!

Anyway, the positive was they were all excellent boxers and achieved quite a lot. Troy in particular was close enough to world class.
Yeah, I wasn't being sarcastic about it. You should know some of the colorful families I've seen, my own not totally excluded. It's funny, 'cause you're right, the old man probably was the problem, but he was what made them special in the first place, right? The things that make us are the same things that can do us in if we have no self-awareness. It's always a tightrope walk, a game of friggin' millimeters! And if the old man would have been different or would have disappeared just after the last birth, chances are you never would have heard a word about any of them, ever, for good or for bad!

[frankwornank]

Floyd Patterson had a brother Ray Patterson seven years younger than Floyd who was also a heavyweight. He won the N.Y. Gloves is 1961 and fought pro from 1963 to 1973. He fought the likes of Joe Bugner and Chuck Wepner. Also, Ali had a brother also a heavyweight named Rudolph Valentino Clay. He changed his name to Rahman Ali.

[frankwornank]

Just remember his name. Rahman Ali.

[la-califa]

Manny Pacquaio's brother Bobby is also a fighter. Didn't Barrera have a brother who was also a fighter?

[jackdempsey]

The Flanagan brothers Glen and Del.Both were World rated and in the World Boxing Hall Of Fame. Also Two other brothers Gerry and Art.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Yeah, I wasn't being sarcastic about it. You should know some of the colorful families I've seen, my own not totally excluded. It's funny, 'cause you're right, the old man probably was the problem, but he was what made them special in the first place, right? The things that make us are the same things that can do us in if we have no self-awareness. It's always a tightrope walk, a game of friggin' millimeters! And if the old man would have been different or would have disappeared just after the last birth, chances are you never would have heard a word about any of them, ever, for good or for bad!

Absolutely true!

I remember reading a book about Lance Armstrong the cyclist, and in it the author said that it is simply not possible to win a Tour De France unless you've experienced great hardship at some point in your life - because that's where the necessary character is developed. He even went through the recent winners list, and to a man he could point out what those hardships had been.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Just remember his name. Rahman Ali.

Yes. Rahman Ali fought a 6 rounder same night, but two fights before Ali v Frazier I. Rahman lost, and in his brilliant book on Ali, Jose Torres mentioned that he thought Rahman's loss may have had some effect on Ali's preparation in the changerooms prior to his own bout.

I believe Rahman fought at the Olympics 4 years prior to M. Ali winning his gold medal.

[GazOC]

I believe Rahman fought at the Olympics 4 years prior to M. Ali winning his gold medal.

I didn't know that, is it true?

[SteveO]

marvin was at benn simms fight.
sims was pretty good to be honest. if he wasnt related to hagler we wouldnt of thought of him differently

I believe Simms also beat Iran Barkley, which may not seem like too much now, but he was a force to be reckoned with at the time.

[SteveO]

According to wiki, Rahman Ali/Rudy Clay went 14-3 in his career. He did not fight in the Olympics. He turned pro on 2-25-64, the night after Muhammad beat Liston. I didn't recognize any of the names on his resume, but you guys might.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

According to wiki, Rahman Ali/Rudy Clay did not fight in the Olympics.

Yeah, you & GAZOC may well be correct - I'll see if I can find where I read it. May have been in Jose Torres' book - but not sure? Could be an example of don't believe everything you read?

[SteveO]

Yeah, you & GAZOC may well be correct - I'll see if I can find where I read it. May have been in Jose Torres' book - but not sure? Could be an example of don't believe everything you read?

Then again, wiki could be wrong, so maybe I should not believe everything I read :think

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

The Toweel clan here are legends. Sadly most have died by now....it's worth a read to anyone really interested in fighting families.

Former world bantamweight champion Vic Toweel died in Sydney, Australia, only a couple of weeks ago. Toweel was 80, and settled in Australia about 20 years ago.

[good right hand]

Didn't Barrera have a brother who was also a fighter?

he does... and so does morales:good

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Joey LaMotta had some fights........

Yeah, Joey was a fairly respectable middleweight by the look of his 32 wins, 5 losses and a draw record.

I liked the way Joe Pesci played Joey in the Raging Bull movie. The scene where the fight errupts and spills out into the street is a beauty. Never forget Joey jamming the guys head in the door and repeatedly slamming it on him!

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Here's one that gives the SANDS brothers from Australia a bit of a run for their money - the five ZIVIC brothers from the USA.

Fritze ZIVIC was world champ (welter I think?) and had a 158 wins, 65 losses & 10 draws record. Fought amongst others Jake LaMotta.

Fritze's four brothers had records as follows:

Peter - 49 wins, 38 losses, 14 draws (bantam).
Jack - 46 wins, 29 losses, 4 draws (welter).
Eddie - 39 wins, 41 losses, 6 draws.
Can't find a pro record for the last brother Joe - but he definately did box.

The Zivic's didn't have anything like the number of fights the Sands boys had - but an impressive fight family none the less!

[Chinxkid]

Yeah, Joey was a fairly respectable middleweight by the look of his 32 wins, 5 losses and a draw record.

I liked the way Joe Pesci played Joey in the Raging Bull movie. The scene where the fight errupts and spills out into the street is a beauty. Never forget Joey jamming the guys head in the door and repeatedly slamming it on him!
Pesci was so good in that movie he gave DeNiro a run for his money. Did you know that Joe had retired from acting when DeNiro tracked him down in a Bronx restaurant that Pesci was running? They didn't know each other bu DeNiro and Scorcese had seen him in soemthing and liked his work. The conversation probably went something like, "Mr. Pesci, this is Robert DeNiro."

"Oh yeah, how ya doin'? And how's your mother?"

Pesci's great as an actor, but Joe I Love ya buddy, please don't sing!

One of the Zivic Brothers won a gold medal in 1930.

EDIT: Did you recognize the poor bastard who Pesci was bangin' around in the car door as Frank Vincent? The same actor who played Phil Leotardo in "The Sopranos"? By the way Frank is a pretty good jazz drummer.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Did you recognize the poor bastard who Pesci was bangin' around in the car door as Frank Vincent? The same actor who played Phil Leotardo in "The Sopranos"? By the way Frank is a pretty good jazz drummer.

Lucky he jammed Frank's head in the door and not his fingers!

[Chinxkid]

Lucky he jammed Frank's head in the door and not his fingers!

Yeah, funny thing too. I just remembered that Pesci finished the job on Frank but good about ten years later in, "Goodfellas." Joe and DeNiro must have been laying for him all that time, 'cause he was the made guy who got out of prison with, "mouths to feed," and end up getting butchered in the trunk of Ray Liotta's car in that other "true" story about Henry Hill and Jimmy Burke and Tommy DeVito. And they say boxing's violent.:-(

[la-califa]

Yeah, funny thing too. I just remembered that Pesci finished the job on Frank but good about ten years later in, "Goodfellas." Joe and DeNiro must have been laying for him all that time, 'cause he was the made guy who got out of prison with, "mouths to feed," and end up getting butchered in the trunk of Ray Liotta's car in that other "true" story about Henry Hill and Jimmy Burke and Tommy DeVito. And they say boxing's violent.:-( Not entirely sure, But wasn't Frank the guy who beat Joe & his brother with a baseball bat and put him in a hole. In Casino? Some measure of revenge...

[Chinxkid]

Not entirely sure, But wasn't Frank the guy who beat Joe & his brother with a baseball bat and put him in a hole. In Casino? Some measure of revenge...
You know I think you're right. He's one of those "type" actors who gets a call when Hollywood needs an authentic Italian tough guy type. He's good though. I've seen him play other types and he pulls it off. Must be one of Scorsese's go-to guys, 'cause all three films were directed by him.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Australia's former world featherweight champion Johnny Famechon was born in Paris. But lived in Australia from a very early age. Johnny's father and two brothers all had significant fight careers:

Johnny's father Adre Famechon had 21 wins, 18 losses and 3 draws as a welterweight, fighting first in France and later in Australia.

Uncle Ray Famechon had a very distinguished record as a featherweight for 100 wins, 14 losses and a draw, but didn't fight in Australia.

His other uncle Emile had 14 wins, 24 losses & 6 draws as a flyweight, including a sprinkling of bouts in Australia.