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Proud Warrior
07-29-2007, 07:37 PM
Firstly i have great respect for Billy,he has been with ricky all his boxing life and knows him better than anyone,he did not want Ricky to fight at short notice at 147 against Collazo because of the dangers that we all saw(he won the fight before you all start...!) but he has said alot of good stuff about Ricky's chances against PBF and that gives me so much confidence,anyway this is taken from a uk paper.


Ricky Hatton will evoke the spirit of Roberto Duran in his quest to become the first man to defeat Floyd Mayweather and establish himself as the number one pound-for-pound boxer in the world.
That is the view of Hatton's trainer Billy Graham, who said news of a verbal agreement between representatives of Hatton and Mayweather for a December super-fight in Las Vegas is "a dream come true".
Referring to Duran's famous win over Sugar Ray Leonard in their first fight in Montreal in 1980, when Duran lured his opponent into a brawl and claimed a points win, Graham said: "This is Ricky's Sugar Ray Leonard fight. It's the first Duran-Leonard fight all over again. Look at how Duran won that fight and you will see how Ricky will beat Floyd. I have been studying Floyd for years with a view to this fight."

El Bombasto
07-29-2007, 07:39 PM
Do you think PBF can be lured into a brawl?

Toopretty
07-29-2007, 07:42 PM
hahaha. The fact is Hatton does not have the power, accuracy, defense of duran. Hatton does have the energy and strength but that aint enough to beat a guy with equal or more energy. No matter what billy says he is scared and knows how hatton charges in with no defense and how he bounces to and fro ..lol floyd is stil going to stop him.

Toopretty
07-29-2007, 07:44 PM
and for the record..Colazo beat hatton. Draw at best. He landed the cleaner more effective punches every single round and that is 50% of what a fight is scored on.

ferd cloupes
07-29-2007, 07:44 PM
hahaha. The fact is Hatton does not have the power, accuracy, defense of duran. Hatton does have the energy and strength but that aint enough to beat a guy with equal or more energy. No matter what billy says he is scared and knows how hatton charges in with no defense and how he bounces to and fro ..lol floyd is stil going to stop him.


it's just as well then that floyd is no sugar ray leonard

BigEars
07-29-2007, 07:47 PM
Do you think PBF can be lured into a brawl?

No chance of him being lured into a brawl...............he could be forced into one though :bbb

Toopretty
07-29-2007, 07:53 PM
it's just as well then that floyd is no sugar ray leonard

Yeah floyd dont get hit as much and does not flurry with arm punches to get the crowd excited and is a better defensive fighter. But Duran is better then Hatton at everything..

ferd cloupes
07-29-2007, 07:55 PM
Yeah floyd dont get hit as much and does not flurry with arm punches to get the crowd excited and is a better defensive fighter.

that and not being nearly as good

GazOC
07-29-2007, 07:57 PM
Yeah floyd dont get hit as much and does not flurry with arm punches to get the crowd excited and is a better defensive fighter. But Duran is better then Hatton at everything..

Mayweather can't hold a candle to Leonard either.....don't let the Hagler fight fool you, SRL was one hell of a fighter at 147.

MagnificentMatt
07-29-2007, 07:58 PM
and for the record..Colazo beat hatton. Draw at best. He landed the cleaner more effective punches every single round and that is 50% of what a fight is scored on.

I guess i could agree with you, but your def a hater..:yep

Proud Warrior
07-29-2007, 08:00 PM
and for the record..Colazo beat hatton. Draw at best. He landed the cleaner more effective punches every single round and that is 50% of what a fight is scored on.Did he bollox,it was scary for us Hatton fans but he won most of the first rounds,one with a knock down,every fighter has a bad day at the office but the truly great fghters can still grind out a victory,also Hatton was much smaller and taking on a southpaw who was champ,he did not get nearly enough credit for pulling that one out of the bag.! Oh and if that was not enough it was out of Ricky's commfort zone in the US,u would never get PBF over in the UK for a fight!!!!

dragosuhail
07-29-2007, 08:03 PM
i dont think it will be so much as a brawl is it will be ricky imposing his fury onto mayweather to the point where mayweather loses a UD due to survival mode or late TKO.

though i definately believe floyd is the favorite by a big margin and for good reason.

my reasoning is that floyd has not faced someone as strong and violent at 140 or 147. look at the names floyd fought at those weights and most reasonable fans will admit the toughest tests were not fought aside from oscar.

demarcus corley (not known as big puncher yet at that weight wobbled floyd a couple times)

henry bruseles (not much)
philip n'dou (like his cousin lovemore. very limited ring IQ)
arturo gatti (exciting fighter but never on ricky's level at any stage in his career. personal opinion)

shamba mitchell (shot fighter after tyzsu and not a big hitter, nor mentally strong)

zab judah (not mentally strong and tires in second half)
carlos baldomir (stockier version of margarito. nuff said)
oscar del la hoya (this was a great win for floyd though i feel if oscar used his brains a little more and made it a jab fight, floyd would have had more trouble than he did and possibly lost it. but as it was i scored it for floyd).

this ain't hate or anything. im a fan equally of BOTH fighters and will have floyd as an easy favorite. but once in the ring anything is possible.

we simply do not know how floyd will handle one of the physically strongest and roughest fighters plus mentally toughest fighters out there in 140 or 147 (tho i put cotto above hatton in 147, but barely).

we gotta remember that kostya is one of the most strongest fighters of his weight division p4p of all time and while i believe ricky got all the conditions in his favour for that fight. (time, kostya's age etc.) he walked through hell to win. kostya said that hatton was strong and that is saying something.

i also believe floyd is stronger than hatton feels he is. hatton will be surprised by floyds strength, but i feel floyd will be even more surprised by hatton's.

combine the phyiscal and mental strength with youth, quick feet, stamina and savage desire, and i cannot see how floyd has faced someone with these qualities over all his 140 and 147 fights. oscar was close to winning but he seemed to be tempted into the amaturish mistake of trying to take his opponents head off. the style didn't suit him and perhaps oscar is also on the slide. he was tired against a smaller fighter despite the vigourous training he undertook. hatton on the other hand is nearly as strong as oscar (pound for pound he's stronger but oscar is rather bigger). he's got that undefeated mindset so i can see a hatton win as well.

this will be a 50-50 fight i feel

pit
07-29-2007, 08:03 PM
I would Agee with agrate deal with billy statement but he I
Just hope he realizes that floyd has been studing ricky also and buy the floyd, rodger and elerbe are talking they knew this moment would happen and they ready for it, look like this fight shaping up nicely.

pit
07-29-2007, 08:05 PM
I would Agee with agrate deal with billy statement but he I
Just hope he realizes that floyd has been studing ricky also and buy the floyd, rodger and elerbe are talking they knew this moment would happen and they ready for it, look like this fight shaping up nicely.

C Money
07-29-2007, 08:08 PM
hahaha. The fact is Hatton does not have the power, accuracy, defense of duran. Hatton does have the energy and strength but that aint enough to beat a guy with equal or more energy. No matter what billy says he is scared and knows how hatton charges in with no defense and how he bounces to and fro ..lol floyd is stil going to stop him.

Floyd doesnt have the power, accuracy, heart of SRL either, so it's all good:lol:

You are discrediting and downplaying Hatton too much and even if Floyd pulls it out?? It's gonna be much different from the walk in the park you're proposing:good

ferd cloupes
07-29-2007, 08:08 PM
I would Agee with agrate deal with billy statement but he I
Just hope he realizes that floyd has been studing ricky also and buy the floyd, rodger and elerbe are talking they knew this moment would happen and they ready for it, look like this fight shaping up nicely.

both sides are well versed in the art of war and both will be exceptionally well prepared. floyd is clearly the favourite (and rightly so) but this is no foregone conclusion. i can't wait

Toopretty
07-29-2007, 08:09 PM
yeah yeah.bullshit..Hatton is a good fighter overhyped to be a great fighter. Floyd/SRL comparison is bullshit. I mean..SRL was a great fighter of his era..Floyd will prove to the whole UK and ESB by being a great fighter of this era. Once floyd hands Hatton the one sided beaten he should of got a few years back. You all will dick ride the next fighter. The real boxing fans know styles make fights and know that hatton will get punched more then ever before and he will land less punches. Nothing hatton did up until this point has prepared him to deal with a boxer like Floyd. Nothing.

GazOC
07-29-2007, 08:11 PM
Lets get away from the Mayweather/ Leonard comparision, its like comparing Ali with John Tate.

Toopretty
07-29-2007, 08:11 PM
racFloyd doesnt have the power, accuracy, heart of SRL either, so it's all good:lol:

You are discrediting and downplaying Hatton too much and even if Floyd pulls it out?? It's gonna be much different from the walk in the park you're proposing:good

Floyd has far better accuracy then any boxer in boxing history probably :yep:yep:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl How else can you explain a fighter throwing 30-40 punches around and landing majority convincingly. Power SRR has twice as much. But accuracy..give me a break. SRL would miss about 5 arm punches in his combo and land about 3. He was not that accurate. He had hand speed and power. :tired

pit
07-29-2007, 08:12 PM
floyd was only wobled once in the corley fight and he only gets nailed like from south paws.

Toopretty
07-29-2007, 08:16 PM
floyd was only wobled once in the corley fight and he only gets nailed like from south paws.

Pit forgive them they know not what they speak. When hatton clinches and gets rough, the forearm will be jammed in the kneck. Very very uncomfortable. These guys never even seen a floyd fight or what happens when a guy holds and hits..They just ignore ODH being bigger stronger with faster hands then hatton. Could not land anything holding and hitting and Hatton by far cannot block punches with his gloves as ODH was able to do. Hattons gloves are under his chin:verysad:verysad. He dont tuck his chin:verysad:verysad:verysad...Man its going to be fun..lol:happy

C Money
07-29-2007, 08:25 PM
yeah yeah.bullshit..Hatton is a good fighter overhyped to be a great fighter. Floyd/SRL comparison is bullshit. I mean..SRL was a great fighter of his era..Floyd will prove to the whole UK and ESB by being a great fighter of this era. Once floyd hands Hatton the one sided beaten he should of got a few years back. You all will dick ride the next fighter. The real boxing fans know styles make fights and know that hatton will get punched more then ever before and he will land less punches. Nothing hatton did up until this point has prepared him to deal with a boxer like Floyd. Nothing.


Hatton's about the biggest challenge Floyd has faced, so it's a 2 way street:good

I would compare the fighters in the comparison but it has stylistic similarities and that's what he was referring to.

C Money
07-29-2007, 08:27 PM
rac

Floyd has far better accuracy then any boxer in boxing history probably :yep:yep:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl How else can you explain a fighter throwing 30-40 punches around and landing majority convincingly. Power SRR has twice as much. But accuracy..give me a break. SRL would miss about 5 arm punches in his combo and land about 3. He was not that accurate. He had hand speed and power. :tired


Well SRL fought the top opposition, tell me about Floyd's attributes when he's similarly proven them:good

2smart4u
07-29-2007, 08:28 PM
Pit forgive them they know not what they speak. When hatton clinches and gets rough, the forearm will be jammed in the kneck. Very very uncomfortable. These guys never even seen a floyd fight or what happens when a guy holds and hits..They just ignore ODH being bigger stronger with faster hands then hatton. Could not land anything holding and hitting and Hatton by far cannot block punches with his gloves as ODH was able to do. Hattons gloves are under his chin:verysad:verysad. He dont tuck his chin:verysad:verysad:verysad...Man its going to be fun..lol:happy:lol: OSCAR isnt as fast as HAT and is esentially a one armed bandit ! HAT is very live indeed !:deal

surreal deal
07-29-2007, 08:28 PM
it's just as well then that floyd is no sugar ray leonard
quite.theyd both lose to either of the montreal boys.

lefthook31
07-29-2007, 08:31 PM
This fight will be interesting, but I see it turning into something like Corrales Mayweather. Floyd is just too fast, but Hatton has a much higher output than Corrales ever did. I dont see Hatton winning, but I do see him making a better fight than oscar did.

Toopretty
07-29-2007, 08:34 PM
:lol: OSCAR isnt as fast as HAT and is esentially a one armed bandit ! HAT is very live indeed !:deal


ODH has more hand speed then hatton.:lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl ODH has a jab.:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl ODH can keep a tight defense:D Like I said Hatton is wide open to be hit by any punch there is. Floyd will have no trouble finding him. Hatton relies on his bouncing in and out and clinching to avoid punches.wont work... You guys need to worry more about what Hatton can do to not get hit rather then what he can hit floyd(defensive fighter) with. Answer that question and I will shut up.

GazOC
07-29-2007, 08:37 PM
what he can hit floyd(defensive fighter) with. Answer that question and I will shut up.

Left hook to the body. Now shut up.:nut;)

C Money
07-29-2007, 08:42 PM
ODH has more hand speed then hatton.:lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl ODH has a jab.:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl ODH can keep a tight defense:D Like I said Hatton is wide open to be hit by any punch there is. Floyd will have no trouble finding him. Hatton relies on his bouncing in and out and clinching to avoid punches.wont work... You guys need to worry more about what Hatton can do to not get hit rather then what he can hit floyd(defensive fighter) with. Answer that question and I will shut up.

Man please... hatton is faster at this stage and a MUCH better body puncher than DLH ever was. Also DLH, hardly used his jab and that's a big reason why HE FAILED to beat floyd. Even without it he was competitive and if he hadnt faded in the last few rounds like always?? he might have won.

I had it even after 10 rounds and Floyd won the last two thus winnng 115-113 on my card. Hatton is younger, faster, and will bring Floyd the toughest test to date.

El Bombasto
07-29-2007, 09:24 PM
No chance of him being lured into a brawl...............he could be forced into one though :bbb

:lol:

Imperial1
07-29-2007, 09:34 PM
If Hatton isn't allowed to grapple as much in thos fight Floyd wins this by UD ..His defense will fluster Ricky and at 147 Floyd is the better fighter ..

2smart4u
07-29-2007, 09:39 PM
ODH has more hand speed then hatton.:lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl ODH has a jab.:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl ODH can keep a tight defense:D Like I said Hatton is wide open to be hit by any punch there is. Floyd will have no trouble finding him. Hatton relies on his bouncing in and out and clinching to avoid punches.wont work... You guys need to worry more about what Hatton can do to not get hit rather then what he can hit floyd(defensive fighter) with. Answer that question and I will shut up.:lol: Did you ever hear of CUTTING OFF THE RING and VOLUME PUNCHING ? This fight may be more like ALI FRAZIER ONE then you PBF fans would like to beleive !:deal

Toopretty
07-29-2007, 09:46 PM
:lol: Did you ever hear of CUTTING OFF THE RING and VOLUME PUNCHING ? This fight may be more like ALI FRAZIER ONE then you PBF fans would like to beleive !:deal

Frazier kept his head moving his guard high his chin tucked in so the only open spot was the top of his head which if you punched it you probably break your hand. Hatton fights str8 up and down and comes in with no guard. Jesus chavez fought floyd like Ali/Frazier. He came forward nonstop in floyds chest b/c he was short and kept his chin tucked in. Floyd could only hit him with uppercuts. Hatton comes in knees not bent a little head movement no defense. Guard wide open :bbb

2smart4u
07-29-2007, 09:52 PM
Frazier kept his head moving his guard high his chin tucked in so the only open spot was the top of his head which if you punched it you probably break your hand. Hatton fights str8 up and down and comes in with no guard. Jesus chavez fought floyd like Ali/Frazier. He came forward nonstop in floyds chest b/c he was short and kept his chin tucked in. Floyd could only hit him with uppercuts. Hatton comes in knees not bent a little head movement no defense. Guard wide open :bbb:D Joe fought with only a left hook ! HAT has two great hands and a better footwork ! These are 2 fantastic fighters and its no walkover either way ! :bbb

rodney
07-29-2007, 09:53 PM
We will be hearing all kinds of crap leading up to this fight.
Remember.
The number one priority is to build up the gate.

Toopretty
07-29-2007, 09:55 PM
:D Joe fought with only a left hook ! HAT has two great hands and a better footwork ! These are 2 fantastic fighters and its no walkover either way ! :bbb

He has two short arms and sloppy bouncing tigger footwork..Hattons footwork is rythmless and retarded. He plods forward and if he tries to dance...wow..even shorter night.:admin

2smart4u
07-29-2007, 09:56 PM
He has two short arms and sloppy bouncing tigger footwork..Hattons footwork is rythmless and retarded. He plods forward and if he tries to dance...wow..even shorter night.:admin:lol: Your very short sighted arent you ! HATTEN is a very effective fighter my friend and if you take a close look at his fights he barly looses a round ! Win or loose FLOYD gets bashed !:deal

Toopretty
07-29-2007, 10:03 PM
Yeah I give credit to hatton. If you are a flat footed slow plodding fighter he will whoop your ass. But if you have defense speed and ring movement he will look horrible. He has never ever ever faced a fast boxer. EVER. I am talking hand and foot speed. Let alone a boxer that will exploit his mistakes and make his hold and hit style work against him. Hatton is easy to hit. Easy to predict. Floyd would have his whole abc 123 fight game figured out and dismantled in 4 rounds of which floyd does not get hit with any serious punches and the only thing that is going to be bashed is hattons face:scaredas: :scaredas: :scaredas:

2smart4u
07-29-2007, 10:04 PM
Yeah I give credit to hatton. If you are a flat footed slow plodding fighter he will whoop your ass. But if you have defense speed and ring movement he will look horrible. He has never ever ever faced a fast boxer. EVER. I am talking hand and foot speed. Let alone a boxer that will exploit his mistakes and make his hold and hit style work against him. Hatton is easy to hit. Easy to predict. Floyd would have his whole abc 123 fight game figured out and dismantled in 4 rounds of which floyd does not get hit with any serious punches and the only thing that is going to be bashed is hattons face:scaredas: :scaredas: :scaredas::lol: I quess we will see ! :bbb

Toopretty
07-29-2007, 10:04 PM
:lol: Your very short sighted arent you ! HATTEN is a very effective fighter my friend and if you take a close look at his fights he barly looses a round ! Win or loose FLOYD gets bashed !:deal

Just like the slightly above average slow, low output counter puncher collazo.:rofl

Toopretty
07-29-2007, 10:06 PM
Hell yeah..three years I been waiting. Three years... MISMATCH AND NEXT..Overrated fighters will fall in 07.

2smart4u
07-29-2007, 10:07 PM
Just like the slightly above average slow, low output counter puncher collazo.:rofl:lol: Now your not so slow as to not realize the intangables in that fight that made HAT look bad are you ? :D we can take a look at a couple of pressure fighters who gave PBF all kinds of problems you know ! And they were nowhere as goos as HAT !

Toopretty
07-29-2007, 10:09 PM
Name the pressure fighters that gave floyd trouble and I will tell you that the ordinary Collazo made Hatton look like shit and almost took him out.

C Money
07-29-2007, 10:10 PM
Just like the slightly above average slow, low output counter puncher collazo.:rofl


Man STOP with the Collazo shit!!! Collazo is a naturally bigger SOUTHPAW, it has NO RELEVANCE or BEARING on how PBF vs Hatton is going down. Styles MAKE fights and I've seen you say it, so?? Remember the addage.

Toopretty
07-29-2007, 10:11 PM
The intangibles that made hatton look bad..he dont hit that hard. and he does not have a plan b...wow...you name yours. I guess he had the black plague and both his hands were broken and the southpaw stance he just could not figure out even though he fights in a mauling style were the stance does not make much difference. Yeah it coming Corky.

2smart4u
07-29-2007, 10:11 PM
Name the pressure fighters that gave floyd trouble and I will tell you that the ordinary Collazo made Hatton look like shit and almost took him out.:lol: HAT just Koed one of them ! the same one that made PBF look like shit ! :deal

El Bombasto
07-29-2007, 10:12 PM
Well, he is Hatton's TRAINER

2smart4u
07-29-2007, 10:13 PM
The intangibles that made hatton look bad..he dont hit that hard. and he does not have a plan b...wow...you name yours. I guess he had the black plague and both his hands were broken and the southpaw stance he just could not figure out even though he fights in a mauling style were the stance does not make much difference. Yeah it coming Corky.:lol: so your not as bright as I thought you were !:bbb

Toopretty
07-29-2007, 10:14 PM
Man STOP with the Collazo shit!!! Collazo is a naturally bigger SOUTHPAW, it has NO RELEVANCE or BEARING on how PBF vs Hatton is going down. Styles MAKE fights and I've seen you say it, so?? Remember the addage.

No, I wont stop. The truth is Collazo is a conservitave puncher, NO power. He is big but does not fight big at all. He looks to counter. He has a good guard. The only quote slick fighter hatton has ever fought and as Paulie M said. He exposed hatton. I aint the only one saying this. I been said Hatton would get beat by a slick boxer. Thats why he stayed clear of them.

Toopretty
07-29-2007, 10:18 PM
How did castillo apply pressure..lol let me guess he came in bouncing in and out..no....floyd was injured that fight. If you watched the fight they were focusing on floyds left shoulder from round 1 and 2 when floyd was winning easy. Castillo fights in a crouch that is why floyd had problems.. He crouches nd comes up with hooks. If you ever seen a castillo fight you would know this. Hatton comes str8 in. His chin is right there. There is nothing to avoid pot shots. Floyd will have him looking stupid in the ring.

2smart4u
07-29-2007, 10:21 PM
How did castillo apply pressure..lol let me guess he came in bouncing in and out..no....floyd was injured that fight. If you watched the fight they were focusing on floyds left shoulder from round 1 and 2 when floyd was winning easy. Castillo fights in a crouch that is why floyd had problems.. He crouches nd comes up with hooks. If you ever seen a castillo fight you would know this. Hatton comes str8 in. His chin is right there. There is nothing to avoid pot shots. Floyd will have him looking stupid in the ring.:lol: So hatton was having an easy time with CALLAZO until the second half of the fight ! And that because CALLAZO was the first fight in the larger weight class ! :deal

o_money
07-29-2007, 10:27 PM
:lol: So hatton was having an easy time with CALLAZO until the second half of the fight ! And that because CALLAZO was the first fight in the larger weight class ! :deal

My only concern with this post is that Hatton faded down the strech against urango as well. So I'm a little hesitent to put it down to the wieght class as it might be an imerging trend in hatton's career. Remeber he's been a boozer and a brawler most of his career and he's not getting any younger. He might not be able to go like he used to. But there is logic in your reason.

Like so many things in boxing we won't know until we know.

2smart4u
07-29-2007, 10:35 PM
My only concern with this post is that Hatton faded down the strech against urango as well. So I'm a little hesitent to put it down to the wieght class as it might be an imerging trend in hatton's career. Remeber he's been a boozer and a brawler most of his career and he's not getting any younger. He might not be able to go like he used to. But there is logic in your reason.

Like so many things in boxing we won't know until we know.:good good points !

C Money
07-29-2007, 10:35 PM
No, I wont stop. The truth is Collazo is a conservitave puncher, NO power. He is big but does not fight big at all. He looks to counter. He has a good guard. The only quote slick fighter hatton has ever fought and as Paulie M said. He exposed hatton. I aint the only one saying this. I been said Hatton would get beat by a slick boxer. Thats why he stayed clear of them.


Do you seriously not understand the differences between fighting southpaw's and orthodox???:huh It's a different experience and when it's a slick southpaw?? Its even that much more difficult. You can keep saying it, if you like, but you make a fool of yourself by doing so. Not to mention Collazo has a more physical inside game and is stronger physically than Floyd. That matchup HAS NO BEARING ON WHAT HAPPENS BETWEEN PBF and Hatton. PBF is smaller physically, not as strong, and orthodox. Now some fighters have success against lefty's ala Tszyu and Cotto and some have trouble, it depends on the fighter, and BTW Cotto's a natural lefty himself.

As for PM? He'll say anything to get a fight with Hatton, it's a big fight and opportunity for him. Too bad, Mayweather beat him to it. I respect Paulie and his heart, toughness, and skill, but he's essentially a 1 handed fighter and will have trouble with tough elite guy's because his right hand cant crack an egg. He'll be competitive even without it and its a tribute to his skill. Hopefully, paulie gets a shot with Reese, Torres, or the Witter vs Harris winner and adds another belt to his waist and continues to push himself up the line for another MAJOR FIGHT.

SouthLondonsFinest
07-30-2007, 04:31 AM
As much as I want Hatton to win, I just can`t see it.

bill poster
07-30-2007, 05:53 AM
Hatton thought he could take out Collazo after the knockdown- it reminded me of Pac/Marquez. Both ran out of energy and barely got the decisions. It was an important lesson for Hatton- he now has one of the best dietitions working in his camp, little or no layoff from his last fight, whereas Floyd may be a little rusty.
I think Ricky is a lot more astute than people here think- he will be very aggressive on the night. Look at the fights where english fighters were give little chance- Benn is a classic example. I don't think he was given much of a chance against most of his american opponents..aggression was the key- PBF won't like it one bit!!!

ThePlugInBabies
07-30-2007, 08:58 AM
Hatton thought he could take out Collazo after the knockdown- it reminded me of Pac/Marquez. Both ran out of energy and barely got the decisions. It was an important lesson for Hatton- he now has one of the best dietitions working in his camp, little or no layoff from his last fight, whereas Floyd may be a little rusty.
I think Ricky is a lot more astute than people here think- he will be very aggressive on the night. Look at the fights where english fighters were give little chance- Benn is a classic example. I don't think he was given much of a chance against most of his american opponents..aggression was the key- PBF won't like it one bit!!!

yes but benn is one of the hardest hitting middleweights/smw of all time, the same can not be said for hatton in his division.

madpup
07-30-2007, 09:05 AM
Mayweather may be an arrogant prick that belittles his opponents, but you can never accuse him of underestimating his opponents and underpreparing. I think PBF will have Hatton's style all worked out and win a relatively comfortable UD.

bill poster
07-30-2007, 09:05 AM
yes but benn is one of the hardest hitting middleweights/smw of all time, the same can not be said for hatton in his division.
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Taffyy
07-30-2007, 09:28 AM
If you actually stop being a tit like Toopretty & look at the fight from a "fighting" perspective & not a haters then its obvious that it will be Floyds toughest challenge to date..................Im not naive enough to say Hatton smashes him or equally something as retarded as "Floyd wins easily".............Ricky will apply his brawling smothering approach hoping to walk through PBF's shots in the process which he did to good effect against KT(old or not he could still hit for fucks sake !!!!!!)..............However PBF is technically the best boxer of our era....If he can keep Hatton of he'll outpoint him..........The question is if...????...............As for using the Collazo fight as a point of reference for Hatton v Floyd..........Thats just fucking dull.......A big awkward southy ........ A move up a weight..........Not enough time to condition properly...........Jesus it couldnt have been a more horrible first scrap at 147 if they'd tried !!!!...............Oh & he won ya fuckin idiots !!!!!!!........Im just looking forward to the fight which is shaping up to be a beauty................May the best man win......

roly
07-30-2007, 09:37 AM
pbf is favourite but hattons in with a good chance, and i think if hatton does win he will do it decisivly with a stopage

1lehudson
07-30-2007, 09:41 AM
history does have a habit of repeatting itself....HOWEVER Floyd isnt going to be lured into any *******, and to be honest with you...I still dont think that Hatton could win that.

1lehudson
07-31-2007, 01:37 AM
Hatton would win a "slug out".. just not a boxing match. Dont expect HAtton to try and "box" Floyd..

However.. I dont see anyother outcome other then Floyd beating Hatton..

He is simply to small.Actually i believe that Floyd is the smaller man, in terms of weight. he is much taller then Hatton and longer which is whats going to make this fight abit onesided. I could be wrong and in boxing we have seen bigger upsets.

paulfv
07-31-2007, 01:41 AM
Firstly i have great respect for Billy,he has been with ricky all his boxing life and knows him better than anyone,he did not want Ricky to fight at short notice at 147 against Collazo because of the dangers that we all saw(he won the fight before you all start...!) but he has said alot of good stuff about Ricky's chances against PBF and that gives me so much confidence,anyway this is taken from a uk paper.


Ricky Hatton will evoke the spirit of Roberto Duran in his quest to become the first man to defeat Floyd Mayweather and establish himself as the number one pound-for-pound boxer in the world.
That is the view of Hatton's trainer Billy Graham, who said news of a verbal agreement between representatives of Hatton and Mayweather for a December super-fight in Las Vegas is "a dream come true".
Referring to Duran's famous win over Sugar Ray Leonard in their first fight in Montreal in 1980, when Duran lured his opponent into a brawl and claimed a points win, Graham said: "This is Ricky's Sugar Ray Leonard fight. It's the first Duran-Leonard fight all over again. Look at how Duran won that fight and you will see how Ricky will beat Floyd. I have been studying Floyd for years with a view to this fight."


Sounds good. RH better make sure he's ready for 147.

Also, I have to say that in your avatar Hatton looks exactly like the cartoon character Solomon Grundy, from DC Comics. :)

AllyT
07-31-2007, 08:06 AM
It reassures me how little Mayweather's supporters understand Hatton. Hopefully his team will be equally ill informed and arrogant, in which case Hatton has a chance of not just beating him but smashing him.

1lehudson
07-31-2007, 09:20 AM
It reassures me how little Mayweather's supporters understand Hatton. Hopefully his team will be equally ill informed and arrogant, in which case Hatton has a chance of not just beating him but smashing him.:rofl :lol: :rofl :patsch :huh