Couture VS Lesnar?

[Mankind]

:lol:
First thought was...WTF?:nut


WOw..now I like it. :yep

What say you?

[Tencount85]

certainly a side show match, but I'll pick Couture. As a matter of fact I'll always pick against Brock. Brock is one guy I just don't respect and feel is bad for MMA.

[Mankind]

certainly a side show match, but I'll pick Couture. As a matter of fact I'll always pick against Brock. Brock is one guy I just don't respect and feel is bad for MMA.

Is it a side show?

I hated how Rashad Evans did his classless dance after winning tonight.
I hated how Lesnar laughed at his opponent after his last win.

This is the kind of young monster that negates all of Coutures strenghs.


No matter who you like, interesting matchup, ages considered.

[Tencount85]

Is it a side show?

I hated how Rashad Evans did his classless dance after winning tonight.
I hated how Lesnar laughed at his opponent after his last win.

This is the kind of young monster that negates all of Coutures strenghs.


No matter who you like, interesting matchup, ages considered.

I'm defiantely interested in the fight and I am going to watch it, but I just can't stand Lesnar's WWE routine...he's brought it into the UFC with the way he tries to get himself over as some kind of heel. That's why I call it a side show. Hey, the fact he's ex-wwe and behaves the way he does puts asses in seats and that's great for him, people like to be entertained through showmanship, but I just don't agree with how he's been given a free ride when other guys have dedicated their whole lives to the sport and may never get they break they look for. That's the main issue really, but I admit the UFC is doing the right thing BUSINESS wise. What do you think/ Do you see where I am coming from?

Anyway, I'ts going to be interesting to see how Couture handles the big man seeing as he's going to be giving up like 30+ lbs. I think the experienced Couture will get the W over the young, brash, powerful, Lesnar though. I wonder if Lesnar-Emelianko could ever happen down the line.

[alewaboy52]

Is it a side show?

I hated how Rashad Evans did his classless dance after winning tonight.
I hated how Lesnar laughed at his opponent after his last win.

This is the kind of young monster that negates all of Coutures strenghs.


No matter who you like, interesting matchup, ages considered.

that seems a bit unfair as almost all mma fighters after a big ko victory tend to celebrate, the only difference being this time the crowd was in shock as opposed to mindless bliss as they tend to be after such an exciting win, his little dance was still in the heat of the moment whether the noise of the crowd supports that view or not

[Sundance]

Yeah, I just hope that when Evans gets his ass handed to him, whoever, does the same pissy dance back to him!

I hope Couture beats Lesnar, it's a very tough fight for Randy tho, I think he has to submit Lesnar Mir style. The trademark ground and pound will be very hard to pull off here. Hope he can do it tho, and give the big punk a doing!

[Willy Bonka]

Why would UFC *match Lesnar with Couture, ...after Lesnar has only had 3 fights?
:huh

Most of Us would rather see Brock Lesnar( 2-1 ) vs Kimbo Slice( 3-0 ) in a "Cross-Promotion"( UFC vs EliteXC )!
:deal

If this were to actually happen after Couture/Lesnar & Shamrock/Slice, ...I think going in, Lesnar would be 2-2, Slice would be 4-0!
:think

[scurlaruntings]

I'm defiantely interested in the fight and I am going to watch it, but I just can't stand Lesnar's WWE routine...he's brought it into the UFC with the way he tries to get himself over as some kind of heel. That's why I call it a side show. Hey, the fact he's ex-wwe and behaves the way he does puts asses in seats and that's great for him, people like to be entertained through showmanship, but I just don't agree with how he's been given a free ride when other guys have dedicated their whole lives to the sport and may never get they break they look for. That's the main issue really, but I admit the UFC is doing the right thing BUSINESS wise. What do you think/ Do you see where I am coming from?

Anyway, I'ts going to be interesting to see how Couture handles the big man seeing as he's going to be giving up like 30+ lbs. I think the experienced Couture will get the W over the young, brash, powerful, Lesnar though. I wonder if Lesnar-Emelianko could ever happen down the line.30+lbs? Lesnar comes into the ring at around 285. Randy at best will be around 220. Randy really does have his work cut out.

[Tyga]

30+lbs? Lesnar comes into the ring at around 285. Randy at best will be around 220.

Yeah, but so did Tim Sylvia. Weight won't really be an issue in my opinion.

Now I know Randy has had trouble in the past with bigger dudes. But Barnett and Ricco were/are much better fighters than Lesnar. Lets be real, Brock is a one-dimensional Wrestler with poor/average striking at best. If Randy comes into the fight in peak condition like he usually is, this should be an easy win for Couture.

[Tyga]

where do you get this from? he threw two short jabs at Frank Mir and knocked him on his ass ffs...as far as the Herring fight goes, how many people can you name have knocked Herring out? Dont hold it against Brock.

Have you heard of heavy hands? Yeah, Brock has those.

[ufoalf]

Have you heard of heavy hands? Yeah, Brock has those.
lol no he doesn't where did you get that from? Has he knocked anyone yet? umm no. "Heavy hands" refers to the fact that his punch caries so much explosiveness that they knock people out. It does not refer to 75lbs per hand.

[Tyga]

lol no he doesn't where did you get that from? Has he knocked anyone yet? umm no. "Heavy hands" refers to the fact that his punch caries so much explosiveness that they knock people out. It does not refer to 75lbs per hand.

Dude, do you consider Fedor to have heavy hands?

[scurlaruntings]

Yeah, but so did Tim Sylvia. Weight won't really be an issue in my opinion.

Now I know Randy has had trouble in the past with bigger dudes. But Barnett and Ricco were/are much better fighters than Lesnar. Lets be real, Brock is a one-dimensional Wrestler with poor/average striking at best. If Randy comes into the fight in peak condition like he usually is, this should be an easy win for Couture.Not a very good comparison is it? Tim has the foot speed of a cow. Brock is blessed with the most athleticism iv ever seen in a man that big. Im certainly aware of Brocks poor MMA credentials but theres come intangibles here that arent surmountable. The best thing Randy can do is box him or hope to submit him on the mat.Wrestling with him is not an option.

[Tyga]

Not a very good comparison is it? Tim has the foot speed of a cow. Brock is blessed with the most athleticism iv ever seen in a man that big. Im certainly aware of Brocks poor MMA credentials but theres come intangibles here that arent surmountable. The best thing Randy can do is box him or hope to submit him on the mat.Wrestling with him is not an option.

Did I compare them as fighters or by how athletic they are? No. I compared their weight. That's it.

[scurlaruntings]

Did I compare them as fighters or by how athletic they are? No. I compared their weight. That's it.Well thats quite an immaterial point considering the result of most of Tims fights when he steps up to face elite compeition.

[Tyga]

Well thats quite an immaterial point considering the result of most of Tims fights when he steps up to face elite compeition.

Bro, all I did was say that Randy has fought big guys before. You're turning it into something way different.

[ufoalf]

Dude, do you consider Fedor to have heavy hands?

No I consider him having VERY fast, for a heavyweight, with an AVERAGE(explosiveness) hands. This allows him to overwhelm his opponents but he has never knocked anyone out with a single punch.


Chuck Liddell = heavy hands. Heavy hands can put you to sleep in a punch.

[Tyga]

No I consider him having VERY fast, for a heavyweight, with an AVERAGE(explosiveness) hands. This allows him to overwhelm his opponents but he has never knocked anyone out with a single punch.


Chuck Liddell = heavy hands. Heavy hands can put you to sleep in a punch.

Fedor probably has some of the heaviest hands I've ever seen, HW or not. Go look at his fight with Nog from Pride's Body Blow. His shots to Nog are gigantic. Countless number of people agree with me that he has some of the heaviest hands in MMA.

And btw, anybody can go down in one punch buddy. You just have to hit them on the "spot".

[ufoalf]

Fedor probably has some of the heaviest hands I've ever seen, HW or not. Go look at his fight with Nog from Pride's Body Blow. His shots to Nog are gigantic. Countless number of people agree with me that he has some of the heaviest hands in MMA.

And btw, anybody can go down in one punch buddy. You just have to hit them on the "spot".

I saw all of Fedors fights except maybe several of his earlier fights.

Fedor has 1 KO on his record... thats ONE KO on his record. Do you understand that a heavy handed fighter with SIX OUNCE GLOVES would get KO's instead of TKOs or Submissions? What is there to not understand? You're ignorant.

His punches are fast and many are very hard(that's haymakers for mediocre minds) but he's not heavy handed.

[Polymath]

ufoalf got the beat :good

[ufoalf]

ufoalf got the beat :good
Hmm, ambiguous :huh :think :lol:

[jimmie]

Fedor probably has some of the heaviest hands I've ever seen, HW or not. Go look at his fight with Nog from Pride's Body Blow. His shots to Nog are gigantic. Countless number of people agree with me that he has some of the heaviest hands in MMA.

And btw, anybody can go down in one punch buddy. You just have to hit them on the "spot".

I agree with you Fedor has extremly heavy hands. When uses them he hurts people and the shots are loud scary loud.

[ufoalf]

I agree with you Fedor has extremly heavy hands. When uses them he hurts people and the shots are loud scary loud.
:lol: Oh I see, THAT's the defining characteristic for "heavy hands", the punches "hurt people" and they are "scary loud"... Hmm.

Could've sworn when naming someone heavy handed they'd've knocked some more people out. And man, Fedor is my favorite fighter, he is extremely strong, smart, and fast. But he does not have heavy hands. He throws a lot of fast haymakers because he can, thx to his speed. But you'd think he'd knock someone out by now with one of those :lol:

[jimmie]

:lol: Oh I see, THAT's the defining characteristic for "heavy hands", the punches "hurt people" and they are "scary loud"... Hmm.

Could've sworn when naming someone heavy handed they'd've knocked some more people out. And man, Fedor is my favorite fighter, he is extremely strong, smart, and fast. But he does not have heavy hands. He throws a lot of fast haymakers because he can, thx to his speed. But you'd think he'd knock someone out by now with one of those :lol:

Ok so now you have defined heavy hands for us as punches that put everyone they touch to sleep with exactly just 1 shot. Damn MMAs lacking in heavy handed fighters :-(

[yogster740]

Is it a side show?

I hated how Rashad Evans did his classless dance after winning tonight.
I hated how Lesnar laughed at his opponent after his last win.

This is the kind of young monster that negates all of Coutures strenghs.


No matter who you like, interesting matchup, ages considered.



I can't believe all this hate against Rashad with the dancing. Whenever he speaks the man is up most respectful in all angles, he's one of the nicest guys. The dancing, the rhytm is him gettin in the his groove\mind, thats something very difficult for him to change.

Couture\Brock is definitly interesting...I promised myself I would never bet against Couture again.......this will be very good.

[ufoalf]

Ok so now you have defined heavy hands for us as punches that put everyone they touch to sleep with exactly just 1 shot. Damn MMAs lacking in heavy handed fighters :-(

Where did I say that? I said that a "heavy handed" puncher would have more than 1 KO out of TWENTY NINE wins. :rofl:rofl

Dude are you even serious??:patsch

The way Fedor punches is just not it. His punches are not generated from hips when he is standing up(not the way of Liddell). He punches with limp, extended arms. He throws what is called Russian hooks which is something in between haymaker hook and an overhand punch. Yes, those punches are hard and fast. But they're just not considered heavy handed. Tyson is heavy handed and a KO artist. His punches are always short and tight. Fedors aren't.

He overwhelmes people with the angles and the speed he throws them at. Then his transition to takedowns is so smooth BECAUSE his punchs come from limplike arms.

So what is your definition of heavy handed? Punches that hurt? Punch that sound loud? I punch you in the face I bet that'll hurt like hell. Doesn't mean I'm heavy handed. I'll bitch slap you across the face, I bet it'll hurt like hell and person across the street will hear it. Doesn't mean im heavy handed...

[yogster740]

Where did I say that? I said that a "heavy handed" puncher would have more than 1 KO out of TWENTY NINE wins. :rofl:rofl

Dude are you even serious??:patsch

The way Fedor punches is just not it. His punches are not generated from hips when he is standing up(not the way of Liddell). He punches with limp, extended arms. He throws what is called Russian hooks which is something in between haymaker hook and an overhand punch. Yes, those punches are hard and fast. But they're just not considered heavy handed. Tyson is heavy handed and a KO artist. His punches are always short and tight. Fedors aren't.

He overwhelmes people with the angles and the speed he throws them at. Then his transition to takedowns is so smooth BECAUSE his punchs come from limplike arms.

So what is your definition of heavy handed? Punches that hurt? Punch that sound loud? I punch you in the face I bet that'll hurt like hell. Doesn't mean I'm heavy handed. I'll bitch slap you across the face, I bet it'll hurt like hell and person across the street will hear it. Doesn't mean im heavy handed...

nice job.....the heavy hands is definitely the big combination of reflex, strength, hip, shoulder.......nice description bro.

[Tyga]

Where did I say that? I said that a "heavy handed" puncher would have more than 1 KO out of TWENTY NINE wins. :rofl:rofl

Dude are you even serious??:patsch

The way Fedor punches is just not it. His punches are not generated from hips when he is standing up(not the way of Liddell). He punches with limp, extended arms. He throws what is called Russian hooks which is something in between haymaker hook and an overhand punch. Yes, those punches are hard and fast. But they're just not considered heavy handed. Tyson is heavy handed and a KO artist. His punches are always short and tight. Fedors aren't.

He overwhelmes people with the angles and the speed he throws them at. Then his transition to takedowns is so smooth BECAUSE his punchs come from limplike arms.

So what is your definition of heavy handed? Punches that hurt? Punch that sound loud? I punch you in the face I bet that'll hurt like hell. Doesn't mean I'm heavy handed. I'll bitch slap you across the face, I bet it'll hurt like hell and person across the street will hear it. Doesn't mean im heavy handed...

Do you even train? Honestly?

Like I said, anybody can get knocked out. You just have to hit a certain part of the human body, it's not rocket science bro. A 14 year old kid who has never trained anything can knock out a 32 year old guy if he connected on the right spot.

Get a clue man. You don't have to knock somebody out to be labled a guy with heavy hands.

[ufoalf]

Do you even train? Honestly?

Like I said, anybody can get knocked out. You just have to hit a certain part of the human body, it's not rocket science bro. A 14 year old kid who has never trained anything can knock out a 32 year old guy if he connected on the right spot.

Get a clue man. You don't have to knock somebody out to be labled a guy with heavy hands. :lol:

Nah man, I don't train at all. Please, teach me of all your expertise, coach.

You said BROCK LESNAR has heavy hands. Now, am I to assume, that by heavy handed, you understand the literal meaning of weight? Cause I bet Brocks lesnar is the most heavy handed MMAist out there...


P.S. NO! Wait, wait! I GOT IT! I found your definition that fits perfectly for Lesnar...







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1.heavy-handed - lacking physical movement skills, especially with the hands;

[Tyga]

:lol:

Nah man, I don't train at all. Please, teach me of all your expertise, coach.

You said BROCK LESNAR has heavy hands. Now, am I to assume, that by heavy handed, you understand the literal meaning of weight? Cause I bet Brocks lesnar is the most heavy handed MMAist out there...

Hey bro, I'm not here to talk trash online. That's just not what I do. So I'm not going to say any smart-ass remarks.

Fedor specializes in Sambo. He's an amazing Grappler. Everybody knows this. I was trying to find a Gif. of Fedor knocking down Fujita and then submitting him. Notice that in most of Emelianenko's fights, when he has a guy rocked or in trouble, he chooses to submitt them instead of going for a TKO. That's just his preference.

We both have different opinions on this subject. How about we both leave it at that? Deal?

[ufoalf]

Hey bro, I'm not here to talk trash online. That's just not what I do. So I'm not going to say any smart-ass remarks.

Fedor specializes in Sambo. He's an amazing Grappler. Everybody knows this. I was trying to find a Gif. of Fedor knocking down Fujita and then submitting him. Notice that in most of Emelianenko's fights, when he has a guy rocked or in trouble, he chooses to submitt them instead of going for a TKO. That's just his preference.

We both have different opinions on this subject. How about we both leave it at that? Deal?

We'll keep it civil. We always get into arguments in these forums and usually come out same as we came in. So don't worry about that.

But, answer the question, what is your definition of heavy-handed?

Here's mine:
Heavy-handed - is pertaining a fighter who's punches carry knockout power.


P.S. But you gota admit that Brock Lesnar definition of heavy-handed was pretty funny... I laughed :lol:

[Tyga]

We'll keep it civil. We always get into arguments in these forums and usually come out same as we came in. So don't worry about that.

But, answer the question, what is your definition of heavy-handed?

Here's mine:
Heavy-handed - is pertaining a fighter who's punches carry knockout power.


P.S. But you gota admit that Brock Lesnar definition of heavy-handed was pretty funny... I laughed :lol:

Yeah, it was pretty funny.

Somebody who is heavy handed to me, is somebody who packs serious power. Like Houston Alexander :happy .

[yogster740]

damn I would love to debate..but...I am fakin hammired....